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Tnate
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:02 AM |
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Rear Beetle suspension
Hello all,
After trying for ages to adjust the rear suspension on my 72 Choptop Beetle, Im about ready to give up.
I can do every part, except put the leading arm back on the stop plate. As I try to raise the damn arm, the whole car raises, making it impossible to
put back on. (I believe it is due to the lack of weight, due to no roof)
I am in the process of raising my rear about 1.5cm, so it is under considerably more tension
Any suggestions?
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:10 AM |
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Sounds like You need a tool attached to the chassis to pull the arm Up over the plate....
the other thing You can do, is place a few bags of concrete in Your car to add weight to it.... until You can safely jack it up
and over....
Best of luck...
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:11 AM |
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We use a hook dyna bolted to the shed floor. Using a chain we bolt the car to the floor then jack away.
Hope this helps
Brett
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:11 AM |
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You need to use a chain and a trolley jack.
Look at this Link.
http://www.meyersmanx.com/garage/garage_suspend.htm
Basically you chain the car to the trolley jack so it doesn't go up, then jack the spring plate.
[Edited on 21/3/2005 by MikeM]
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:41 AM |
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there are a few ways. i was stupid enough to pull the rear suspension out when i had no engine in teh back........
got 3 mates to stand on the rear bumper, sit behind rear seat, on guards etc.
that normally works for me. and once its within a few mm, just lever it up and on using a very large screw driver.
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Go hard or go home!!!!
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:48 AM |
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As MikeM said. I used this method last night on a bear chassis. Works fine and is damn easy to do.
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 11:52 AM |
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I knew there MUST be a way....
Good work Guys.....
and thanks for the photo Mike...
plus explanation.... I was wondering what the chain was for??
Now I know...
Lee
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posted on March 21st, 2005 at 01:21 PM |
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excellent - was wondering how I was gonna keep the chassis on the ground (it's stripped)
another good article on rear torsion bars here - with pix
http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/tech/0312vwt_71super/
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posted on March 22nd, 2005 at 03:28 PM |
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i was needing an explanation of this 2, so this is gr8, now that i know how, i just gotta get some adjustable struts 4 up front
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posted on May 3rd, 2005 at 02:31 PM |
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Couldn't get the "chaining the trolley jack to the car" method to work for me, for some reason. So instead I use a "big" turnbuckle and a length
of chain. Bolt one end of the turnbuckle to the top shock mount; loop the chain over the hook on the turnbuckle, and bolt the other end of the chain
to the spring plate - tighten the turnbuckle and the spring plate lifts up.
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posted on May 3rd, 2005 at 06:39 PM |
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did it this way a couple of weeks ago - used a big chain from the chassis to the front of the trolley jack and just kept jacking till it all lined up.
the chassis did actually lift a bit, but only till the slack went out of the chain.
while it works it's a bit heart in mouth, lots of pressure going on there!
the turnbuckle method sounds interesting for next time - or buying the right tool....
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My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......
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posted on May 4th, 2005 at 02:49 PM |
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The turnbuckle method was kind-of fiddly to initially setup, in that you needed to ensure you have just enough threds on the buckle to lift the spring
plate and alow you to lever it out of the "groove", and enough thred to unwind the turn buckle so that the spring plate reaches it's lowest point
without any load on the chain so you unhitch it - but it worked
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posted on May 5th, 2005 at 07:17 AM |
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1stcarbug,
I have a tool that you can borrow that may be a little easier than the chain and jack system (as good as it looks)
Will speak to you at Klubfest
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