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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 03:56 AM
A/C unit pictures for Bizarre!!


As I promised to send you picture of a/c unit.
Here you are :-)
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1790.jpg

close up for compressor.
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1791.jpg

Coil ... or evaporator ??? not sure for this word.
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1793.jpg

A/C dash :-)
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1799.jpg


BTW, I narrowed the front beam 2 days ago. turns out running great.
I did it myself.
http://www.thaivwclub.com/mycar/IMG_1085.jpg

Almost 1 inch gone for each side. Adjuster ready installed.
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1769.jpg
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1770.jpg
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_1771.jpg

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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 05:40 AM



looks nice! gotta be happy with that :blush:



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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 09:50 AM



Looks great mate, awesome Beetle.



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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 11:44 AM



Hey Napat,

Judging by the stock carby your engine looks like a 1600. What sort of drag does the a/c compressor put on the engine when its on. Is it very noticeable?

Not fitted the steering box kit yet as I'm getting new sills welded in.

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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 01:42 PM



Thanks heaps Napat.

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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 06:03 PM



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Hey Napat,

Judging by the stock carby your engine looks like a 1600. What sort of drag does the a/c compressor put on the engine when its on. Is it very noticeable?

Not fitted the steering box kit yet as I'm getting new sills welded in.

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Hi Steve, :-) good to see you here!

It's 1776cc I just change from stock to 90.5 and a little modification :-)

Umm when compressor start to work... just very very little noticeable.
If you park in a quiet place... you can hear they working. May be 2-3 decibel.
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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 08:49 PM



i think he means more about loss of engine power from the compressor kicking in.



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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 08:51 PM



on another note, does anyone know where u can buy those stock looking dash grill plates with the cutouts for the guages?



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posted on August 8th, 2007 at 09:35 PM



Yes, I tell him that very little noticeable. Which means the power loss but not so much :-)
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posted on August 11th, 2007 at 05:25 PM



Napat,
a couple of questions. What model/make is the compressor you have on the motor and where did you get the blower unit? (the part under the dash) that size looks great for a bug, is it a local made thing or from outside Thailand?
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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 08:43 AM



that compressor is just a sanden one typical to most small jap cars
just go to a wreckers or get on ebay look for anything thats from a smallish 94 on car ( theyre on 134a and dont need retrofitting)

that under dash evap is just the standard one that dealers fitted when the cars were new
few 2nd hand ones getting round on US ebay
they do steal alot of space tho
this isnt a factory one but its same design
http://www.gilmore-enterprises.net/GH/Air/Beetle/Beetle2.jpg
his website is http://www.gilmore-enterprises.net/GH/index.htm 

napat, thats a very small drive pulley on the crank it wouldnt be spinning the compressor over real fast specially on a low revving vw motor
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ive got a supercharger going on my 74 cant wait to see how many ppl thing i have air conditioning
BTW thats the condensor underneath that is next to the gearbox

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 10:08 AM



Any chance of a pic for the compressor bottom mount.

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 12:23 PM



Barry (Bizarre), seeing as your in the aircon game, can I pick your brain on something. If I were to pu the evap and blower behind the back seat, could you link the output of the blower to the heater tubes under the rear seat, and use the existing heater channel to bring the cool air to the front of the car? Do you think there will be thermal(cooling) loss as the heater tubes aren't insulated. Also would there be a risk of condensation causing premature rusting of the heater channel? Just a thought.

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 01:12 PM



Steve

Theremal loss - yes. Some. Measurable....probably. But it is a short run.

Condensation. Very likely. Depends how cold it puts the air out. To some extent the carpet would insulate the heaterchannel inside the car. You could armaflex under the rear seat. Underneath - no different to rain.

What you could do though is mount the evap so as it throws the air up from the parcel shelf - so it flows along the roof lining.
Then "suck" the air back the heater channels to the parcel area - drawing the air over the driver??

You could make up a change over so it blows heat and sucks air cond??

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 01:15 PM



Gilmour Enterprises - any one got a returm email from them??

Sent several.
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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 04:09 PM



Hi

Aircooled net have units on there website. They look OK but would be LHD. Napat, does your engine lid shut OK, it looks close.

As far as the piece under the dash for flat screen bugs, you could have something made up in plastic or fibre glass to fit vents to.

I'm planning to fit AC on my 1303, the subi already has a compressor, I've bought a nice size evaporator & condenser. The condenser will either fit into my tail or in front of the radiator. The evaporator I'm going to fit in the air box where the wiper motor is. I will block of the vents on my scuttle panel and draw air from inside the car only, then blow it over the evaporator and then through vents in the dash.

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 05:09 PM



The ACnet ones are Gilmour and do RHD in both Super and L bugs for $1400US

Might just go that way

http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=INA0001&carti...

What would be the difference between a 1302 and a standard beetle for the evap section??
Is the steel dash of a 1032 the same as a standard beetle??

Napat

The AC net set up has a single belt. - ie uses stock crank pulley
Why didnt you just run a single belt??
Not enough contact to drive the alternator from the crank pulley??

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 07:52 PM



I was at a VW show a few years ago in Malaysia where they had a/c in most bugs. Here are some pics I took of their setups:-

http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC1.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC2.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC3.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC4.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC5.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC6.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC7.jpg
http://www.matara.net/albums/aircon/AC8.jpg

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 08:26 PM



and everyone of those runs a seperate belt.

Why??




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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 08:32 PM



u cant move them back far enough to line up with the main belt
the compressor hits the fan housing
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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 09:17 PM



Or is it the gearing from the smaller crank pulley?

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posted on August 12th, 2007 at 09:27 PM



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posted on August 14th, 2007 at 03:58 AM



Hey Bizarre :-)

DUB74 was right!
I cant pull back the compressor enought to use single belt on bug.

I've seen someone does it on his bus (more space on engine compartment) it's turn out "not enought power to spin the compressor" ... but Thailand is very hot may the single belt suit for OZ. I m not sure :-)

Flintstones was right too. small pulley... out put more!

Hey reub-revhead! Will post more pics for you.

1303Steve .. The engine lid shut ok :-) there are 4mm. space between compressor and the lid. If you have oval bug you need a little modification.

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posted on August 14th, 2007 at 10:53 PM



Quote:
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Hey reub-revhead! Will post more pics for you.



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posted on August 16th, 2007 at 05:30 PM



:-) here you are!
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_2158.jpg
http://www.thaivwclub.com/misc/IMG_2159.jpg

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posted on September 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 AM



Thanks dude.

Can I ask where the bracket is fixed to under the car? Is it the head or the body?
Sorry to bug you dude...

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posted on September 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 AM



all the ones ive seen like that pick up the top #4 exhaust stud

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