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 grogy
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 05:08 PM |
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guages elec or mech
hi, what type of gauges are u using, brand, elec or mech, accuracy etc any recommendations as to where to buy. thanks greg
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 07:01 PM |
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electric all the way................ try running a mechanical oil press or temp guage in a bug man what a line .........................
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hi, what type of gauges are u using, brand, elec or mech, accuracy etc any recommendations as to where to buy. thanks greg
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I have always used VDO electric gauges...
I've been told that all aftermarket gauges are only an indication as they aren't that accurate..
but accurate enough to tell You if something is happening...
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 07:16 PM |
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electric all the way................ try running a mechanical oil press or temp guage in a bug man what a line .........................
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but even if the gauge is close to the engine You still need to use all that mechanical line...
I never liked the idea of oil pressure etc in the line...
what happens if it leaks etc..??
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 08:16 PM |
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My custom gauges came today but I have to sign and pick em up tomorrow at the post office. 
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 08:22 PM |
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Mechanical gauges are next to usless in a vw, theyre designed for cars with the engine 1 foot away on the other side of the fire wall.
My first bug had a mechnical oil pressure gauge under the ash tray, it worked ok but naturally with a 4M long plastic capillary tube was abit laggy
but bigger concern was the line coming out under the dash ruptureing all over the driver and passangers legs
Electric ones work well and are a much easier install
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 08:38 PM |
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Mechanical gauges are next to usless in a vw, theyre designed for cars with the engine 1 foot away on the other side of the fire wall.
My first bug had a mechnical oil pressure gauge under the ash tray, it worked ok but naturally with a 4M long plastic capillary tube was abit laggy
but bigger concern was the line coming out under the dash ruptureing all over the driver and passangers legs
Electric ones work well and are a much easier install
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 08:46 PM |
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definately electric. i have electric auto meter gauges.
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 08:58 PM |
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vdo electric
n when they bugga up just replace em too easy.. cause the wires last for just about forever
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 09:30 PM |
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thanks for the post n pics, has anyone got digital readout or know about them, also i like to see some pics of urs vlad01 when u get em, post em up
if u can thanks
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 10:15 PM |
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I'm with Joel and Lee, the thought of running an oil ling into the cabin and behind the dash doesn't work for me no matter how accurate it might be.
Interestingly I just started thinking about building some custom digital gauges yesterday. I imagine it would be possible, but trying to source some
of the parts is the problem. Using a car PC would probably work, but that sarts getting a bit expensive.
Anyway, my guess is Joel will come up with a how-to, so stay tuned.
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 10:35 PM |
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screw one sender into engine block, open beer, connect wire to said sender and other end to gauge, open 2nd beer, start engine. Any questions?
On a serious note digital gauges may look more asthetically pleasing but I find analogue to be more practical
Maybe I'm just sloooooooow ayyyyye but when I had a digital AFR gauge it took a sec or 2 for the brain to process numbers on a good to bad scale
where as when i swapped to an bar/needle type gauge it was so much simpler to just look at, yep it's in the middle, happy days
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 10:46 PM |
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Yep, I agree Joel, analog is definately easier to read at a glance. On the subject of digital, a trike I work on fitted a cheap egay set of
gauges.....they are sooo very bad, oil press and temp inaccurate, tach never stable enough to read....useless....but they do look pretty, and the
readout is colour matched to the paint. 
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 12:47 AM |
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definately electric.
i have electric auto meter gauges.
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Very nice and modern look....
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 01:48 AM |
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sorry guys, the idea I had wasn't so much digital gauges, rather somethig more like bar graphs on a mini LCD panel, so its still an analogue gauge,
it just had a little more flexibility than 52mm pods effectively. The idea needs way more thought though.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 08:48 AM |
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Digital instruments? Thats like soooo 1980s. A perfect match for Lady Di haircuts, Wayfarer sunglasses, leg warmers, Pac-Man and Duran Duran albums.
Set the flux capacitor to 1985 !
Audi tried a completely digitial dash in the original (Ur) quattro in about 1982 - it was crap. Everyone hated it and soon they went back to normal
analogue instruments. Look in every brand new VW/Audi sold today - analogue instruments without exception. Even the Golf R, a far higher-tech vehicle
than any Beetle.
What extra information or 'flexibilty' do you expect from little blinking lights that you won't get from a proper gauge?
Proper VDO gauges can be ordered through any Repco outlet.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 09:12 AM |
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The Space Shuttle cockpit has been modernised and as mostly modern Boeing-style 'glass' instruments. Still some analogue instruments in the upper
panel.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 09:13 AM |
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B-52 bomber pilots - with 8 engines to look after - rely on analogue instruments.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 09:30 AM |
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Gotta love the 80s LCD dash clusters, funny i was only chatting with a mate about them the other night.
My pop had a TN magna elite with the LCD dash but the all time classic was those Ghastly Subaru Vortexs
I remember sitting in the drivers seat of the one dads work mate had just bought new back in 1988 thinking holy shit this is high tech 
These days just looks like a terrible 80s Sega game screen shot
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sorry guys, the idea I had wasn't so much digital gauges, rather somethig more like bar graphs on a mini LCD panel, so its still an analogue gauge,
it just had a little more flexibility than 52mm pods effectively. The idea needs way more thought though.
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Cam, if you like the digital clusters I was looking at one from Acewell for mine cos I like the 100% accuracy of an electronic speeedo and hate not
having a trip meter
but custom building an Lbug dash to mount one is more effort than im prepared to input but they would fit a smoothed flat screen dash beautifully
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 09:02 PM |
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as requested.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=85197
Also I have a porsche 912 tacho 4 sale in the parts section.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 10:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Gotta love the 80s LCD dash clusters, funny i was only chatting with a mate about them the other night.
My pop had a TN magna elite with the LCD dash but the all time classic was those Ghastly Subaru Vortexs
I remember sitting in the drivers seat of the one dads work mate had just bought new back in 1988 thinking holy shit this is high tech
These days just looks like a terrible 80s Sega game screen shot
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sorry guys, the idea I had wasn't so much digital gauges, rather somethig more like bar graphs on a mini LCD panel, so its still an analogue gauge,
it just had a little more flexibility than 52mm pods effectively. The idea needs way more thought though.
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Cam, if you like the digital clusters I was looking at one from Acewell for mine cos I like the 100% accuracy of an electronic speeedo and hate not
having a trip meter
but custom building an Lbug dash to mount one is more effort than im prepared to input but they would fit a smoothed flat screen dash beautifully
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Interesting Joel.
I was actually thinking of something more up to date than the type of kits you used to get from Jaycar. More a hybrid type thing, like analog gauges
produced on a small LCD panel. I figure you could use the output from a standard sender and pipe it into a smaller processor, and produce a custom
display. I think you can get some of the aftermarket engine managment systems to produce such an output.
And interestingly I have a trip computer lying around, VDO mini cockpit with Hall effect sensor. It's really like a glorified cycle computer. I
don't think you have been able to get these for about 10 years. It's like an entry level rally-type timer.
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