Today i got pulled over in "Miami Vice style" for having my arm ON the window (protruding limb law)... and tell me this beautiful country has not become a police state!
Driving at a leasurely 40km (observing the speed limit) two police officers run out onto the road, Miami Vice Style signalling me to pull over. At first i was stunned, WTF is this all about, it felt like a freakin ambush.
So I got the "license please?" to which i had to ask "What in the world are you pulling me over for?" to which the officer responded "We dont need a reason to pull you over, but today you had your arm out the window". Stunned i said to the police officer "I dont know what to say to that", which he interpreted as an admission of guilt "So you admit to having your arm out the window?". No i didnt say that, i actually cant believe that you pulled me over for that, and no my arm wasnt out the window but on the window.
So i flicked him my license and he went to do the standard checks. Nothing! He came back advising that he was letting me off because i had used up all my demerit points and if he fined me i would lose my licencse.
Seriously. WTF.
Ollie ·
Nanny country we live in.
AA003 ·
That law has been around for a long time.
empi ·
i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
matberry ·
empi wrote:i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
Damn CRAZY....I hate being so over-regulated as we are these days.
bajachris88 ·
empi wrote:i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
should have asked if triangular, or hexagonal would suffice. Better yet, a truncated dodecahedron. Hardly the crime of the century.
HappyDaze ·
AA003 wrote:That law has been around for a long time.
True, but before that, it was ILLEGAL to NOT stick your arm out to give a hand signal [stop or turn].🤪
grogy ·
i think it amazing he didnt fine u anyway regardless of what u said. from what i seen over the last few yrs they dont care innocent or not u getting a fine, a reason they could let u off or not u getting afine
donn ·
grogy wrote:i think it amazing he didnt fine u anyway regardless of what u said. from what i seen over the last few yrs they dont care innocent or not u getting a fine, a reason they could let u off or not u getting afine
I have been cautioned more than once over the years, in each case the officer pointed out what I had done wrong and then sent me on my way. I have noticed that mates and even myself on one occasion can confirm that it is quite often not what you say when pulled over but the way you say it, makes a huge difference, not that I'm suggesting that anyone commenting here has been agresive or otherwise.🙅
The post about the shape of the gear stick knob has me scratching my head, I've done a quick search and can't find anything that sugests that there is a "legal" or "illegal" shape for a gear stick knob. Reckon I'd be challenging that one real quick. 👍
bugmaniaar ·
WTF....
Better get the Scat Drag fast Shifter outa me bug then.
And I'm always driving with my arm on the edge of the door with the window open...
Nanny state and a broke state = revenue raising
AA003 ·
bugmaniaar wrote:And I'm always driving with my arm on the edge of the door with the window open.
Bogan style!😂
It normally goes with the seatbelt draped over the shoulder.
Joel ·
bajachris88 wrote:
empi wrote:i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
should have asked if triangular, or hexagonal would suffice. Better yet, a truncated dodecahedron. Hardly the crime of the century.
I reckon half these cops would have coronarys if they looked inside some of these ratrods around with 6 foot high kombi gearsticks that have welded on spanners, grenades, pistons, baby seal heads etc for gearstick knobs.
and thats not even starting on things like the seat springs with no padding and potatoe sacks on them or half the steering wheel chopped off 🤪
haugmichael ·
I was pulled over in my dual cab once because I had a "Speed Limited 100kph" sticker on the back
whathaveidone ·
I was once pulled over for doing a burnout around a roundabout and drifting out of it at nearly 90 degrese. Didnt notice the cop comming the opposite way!!!!!!
He did me for neg driving!!!!! WTF...... I thought it was a mighty fine bit of driving:lol:
ps That was along time ago and I dont condone this type of driving these days!!!!!
1916baja ·
whathaveidone wrote:I was once pulled over for doing a burnout around a roundabout and drifting out of it at nearly 90 degrese. Didnt notice the cop comming the opposite way!!!!!!
He did me for neg driving!!!!! WTF...... I thought it was a mighty fine bit of driving😂
ps That was along time ago and I dont condone this type of driving these days!!!!!
Only you Ben.... I can totally see it.
HappyDaze ·
Hope that wasn't MY ENGINE you were thrashing, Ben.😁
I know this will sound like a "Good Old Days" story, But it is true. Things have changed a lot.😢
One night about 50 years ago, I managed to [easily] outrun a police EK Holden in my Beetle [which clocked 102 MPH at Bathurst]. After a search, they finally found me, and when the two cops got out and walked towards my car, I thought I was going to jail. There were the typical 'old' cop, and 'young' cop, and they went over my car with the torch, checking it out.
What happened next, to put it mildly, amazed me. The 'old' cop booked me for 'a noisy exhaust', and said "Keep that sort of speed for the race track in future, will ya"......I DID.👍
helbus ·
empi wrote:i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
So the Berg shift in our bus and the sequential ratchet shift in my mates EH are illegal because of the rectangular shape?
As long as it has no sharp edges it could not possibly be a hazard
whathaveidone ·
No Greg, that was my old commondore!!! I have never driven a beetle on the street.
1916baja ·
Bogan
AA003 ·
1916baja wrote:Bogan
😂
whathaveidone ·
I even had long hair and smoked winnie blues!!!!! I was cool as
1916baja ·
😂😂😂😂 awesome!
HappyDaze ·
whathaveidone wrote:No Greg, that was my old commondore!!! I have never driven a beetle on the street.
Bloody hell, Ben.....if I had've known that....
68AutoBug ·
hrastovica wrote:Today i got pulled over in "Miami Vice style" for having my arm ON the window (protruding limb law)... and tell me this beautiful country has not become a police state!
Driving at a leasurely 40km (observing the speed limit) two police officers run out onto the road, Miami Vice Style signalling me to pull over. At first i was stunned, WTF is this all about, it felt like a freakin ambush.
So I got the "license please?" to which i had to ask "What in the world are you pulling me over for?" to which the officer responded "We dont need a reason to pull you over, but today you had your arm out the window". Stunned i said to the police officer "I dont know what to say to that", which he interpreted as an admission of guilt "So you admit to having your arm out the window?". No i didnt say that, i actually cant believe that you pulled me over for that, and no my arm wasnt out the window but on the window.
So i flicked him my license and he went to do the standard checks. Nothing! He came back advising that he was letting me off because i had used up all my demerit points and if he fined me i would lose my licencse.
Seriously. WTF.
there are many other things like that , that are now against the law...
like NOT having Your hand brake ON when parked...
even if an automatic...
or windows nearly closed all the way, and all doors locked before going to pay for Your petrol.. , naturally Your handbrake would be ON and the engine Off.. lol
and any NON Genuine accessories are cause to be booked..
on modern cars...
[ Policeman would need to know everything about cars though.. lol]
although this law doesn't get used all the time, otherwise there would be no BIG mufflers hanging off cars..
Does get used on P Platers in NSW.. lol
Sounds like the Highway Patrol officers in NSW... lol
Lee
vlad01 ·
whathaveidone wrote:I was once pulled over for doing a burnout around a roundabout and drifting out of it at nearly 90 degrese. Didnt notice the cop comming the opposite way!!!!!!
He did me for neg driving!!!!! WTF...... I thought it was a mighty fine bit of driving😂
ps That was along time ago and I dont condone this type of driving these days!!!!!
lol
hrastovica ·
AA003 wrote:That law has been around for a long time.
Oh i know about this one, and i believe it was introduced to prevent clowns hanging out of car windows (which actually makes sense). I had one of my cop mates try explain that people have had their limbs torn off in this way, to which I responded that there have been more people with limbs torn off while all their extremities were within the car.
Today, it appears that everyone wants to bubble wrap every detail of our lives, to protect us from all these really dangerous things that could kill us. Every day i see more and more regulation of the silliest little detail. For example, did you know its actually illegal to beep your horn without a reason... no i am serious. They tried introducing a law to ban people from using iPods when crossing the road (really???). By doing this, we have established a culture of fear, that parents are scared to let their kids out of house. God help us if a child was to move away from the Nintendo and climb a tree... they could fall and hurt themselves. Today, even the stupidest little thing can have a law attached to it, to protect us from ourselves. What a load of revenue raising BS!
Its these little liberties, like hanging your arm out a window on a warm day that i enjoy. I have concluded that by punishing us for lots of little things, regulating every little detail of our lives, we will be less inclined to question the big decisions that really matter. Arm out the window fines, speeding fines, parking fines... before you know it there will be smoking in car fines. Where does it end?
Its unfortunate that we havent got a healthy culture of protest in Australia, imagine this scenario... highly unlikely!
I remember in the late 60s, in one year there were about 3 people had their arms cut off in collisions because they were resting on the windows. I think that was when the (good) law was introduced.
The horn law is a good law also. Why should I be annoyed by dickheads in the middle of the night.
It sounds like you are part of the me generation.
Joel ·
AA003 wrote:I'd like to ban ipods.
I'd be lost without mine but....
These f88king idiots that jog/walk/ride with earbuds so loud they can't hear whats coming behind them need a wake up lesson.
66deluxe ·
How about being fined up to $1M for growing fruit and veges in your back yard. If Monsanto gets their way this will happen. They want americans to only buy the genetically modified foods from supermarkets.
empi ·
helbus wrote:
empi wrote:i got done for having a rectangular gear stick handle in a manual car.... apparantly thats not alloud.... as my beetle wasnt auto!!!
So the Berg shift in our bus and the sequential ratchet shift in my mates EH are illegal because of the rectangular shape?
As long as it has no sharp edges it could not possibly be a hazard
twaz an empi t bar shifter.. i also had the number plate EMPI on the car and empi embossed on the handle!!! WTF!!
1303Steve ·
Hi
I was with my son when he was being harassed by the popo, they tried to defect him for not having an H pattern on his gearknob, I had asked my RTA engineer about this only weeks before, he said it was bogus I told the popo this and he backed down.
Steve
bugmaniaar ·
Yeh..
Gear nob with no H pattern?
A woman a work recently told me that her boyfriends ford ute didn't pass a roadworthy because the gear nob didn't have a H pattern on it??.....
Victoria the Nanny State or B.S I don't know....
AA003 ·
bugmaniaar wrote:Yeh..
Gear nob with no H pattern?
A woman a work recently told me that her boyfriends ford ute didn't pass a roadworthy because the gear nob didn't have a H pattern on it??.....
Victoria the Nanny State or B.S I don't know....
I think that the knob may have been the roadworthy inspector.
donn ·
Texting while walking 😬 now there's something that should have a very large fine attached 👍
AA003 ·
Now if you wan't to talk about stupid laws..............
In NSW this year they brought in a law that you must give way to pedestrians when turniing into a street.
I remember in the late 60s, in one year there were about 3 people had their arms cut off in collisions because they were resting on the windows. I think that was when the (good) law was introduced.
The horn law is a good law also. Why should I be annoyed by dickheads in the middle of the night.
It sounds like you are part of the me generation.
I am GenX (Born in 77). What surprises me is that you grew up in the 60's and don't feel that all these silly rules and laws are encroaching on our civil liberties?? Why should your generation be the only one to experience freedom?
hrastovica ·
66deluxe wrote:How about being fined up to $1M for growing fruit and veges in your back yard. If Monsanto gets their way this will happen. They want americans to only buy the genetically modified foods from supermarkets.
Europe is no better, they are trying to ban you growing your own food. And if you get a chance go to Google and type in New Zealand Food Bill. Best way to control the masses, control the food.
hrastovica ·
AA003 wrote:Now if you wan't to talk about stupid laws..............
In NSW this year they brought in a law that you must give way to pedestrians when turniing into a street.
Perfect example of what i am talking about, does this rule apply to heavy vehicles also? God knows that its easier to stop a semi than to look left and right before crossing the road.
Isola ·
The way I see it, the roads don't belong to me. They belong to someone else and they say I can use them if I pay my annual fees to the road owners and follow the rules that are set by the road owners. If I ever decide I have a problem with following the same rules as everyone else who pays their fees, then maybe I'll just start catching the bus or train. Or I suppose I could just bitch and whine about my freedom being stripped from me because I'm not allowed to do what I want when I want to like a spoilt little brat.
AA003 ·
hrastovica wrote:Perfect example of what i am talking about,
It's just that my example was stupider than yours.😂
Yes it applies to B doubles as well.
hrastovica ·
AA003 wrote:
hrastovica wrote:Perfect example of what i am talking about,
It's just that my example was stupider than yours.😂
Yes it applies to B doubles as well.
Unfortuntely the stupidity accumulates hahaha 😂
hrastovica ·
All we need now is a law to ban nose picking in vehicles and we're all doomed 😂 Or is that only me 😊
vlad01 ·
hrastovica wrote:
AA003 wrote:That law has been around for a long time.
Oh i know about this one, and i believe it was introduced to prevent clowns hanging out of car windows (which actually makes sense). I had one of my cop mates try explain that people have had their limbs torn off in this way, to which I responded that there have been more people with limbs torn off while all their extremities were within the car.
Today, it appears that everyone wants to bubble wrap every detail of our lives, to protect us from all these really dangerous things that could kill us. Every day i see more and more regulation of the silliest little detail. For example, did you know its actually illegal to beep your horn without a reason... no i am serious. They tried introducing a law to ban people from using iPods when crossing the road (really???). By doing this, we have established a culture of fear, that parents are scared to let their kids out of house. God help us if a child was to move away from the Nintendo and climb a tree... they could fall and hurt themselves. Today, even the stupidest little thing can have a law attached to it, to protect us from ourselves. What a load of revenue raising BS!
Its these little liberties, like hanging your arm out a window on a warm day that i enjoy. I have concluded that by punishing us for lots of little things, regulating every little detail of our lives, we will be less inclined to question the big decisions that really matter. Arm out the window fines, speeding fines, parking fines... before you know it there will be smoking in car fines. Where does it end?
Its unfortunate that we havent got a healthy culture of protest in Australia, imagine this scenario... highly unlikely!
this reminds me of the dark ages, higher people using fear tactics to control people.
vlad01 ·
donn wrote:Texting while walking 😬 now there's something that should have a very large fine attached 👍
maybe if they didn't have laws to protect people over stupid stuff then we wouldn't have a generation(degeneration) of dumb s#its and the population would be a lot less.
I recon dumb people should be allowed to kill them selves from there own stupidity. It would solve a lot of world problems 😂
beetleboyjeff ·
vlad01 wrote:maybe if they didn't have laws to protect people over stupid stuff then we wouldn't have a generation(degeneration) of dumb s#its and the population would be a lot less.
I recon dumb people should be allowed to kill them selves from there own stupidity. It would solve a lot of world problems 😂
I think the proper name for it is 'natural selection'.
DubbyDo ·
Arm out the window fines, speeding fines, parking fines... before you know it there will be smoking in car fines. Where does it end?
Correct me if im wrong but the UK already have fines for smoking in company cars, I vaguely remember(hey it was a wedding reception🤪) last I was in London a self employed feller, removable business magnets on his personal car, got done for havin a fag in it.........easy money really
DubbyDo ·
Years ago was told by a plain clothes dude that I needed a permit for the extractors on my Sandman panelvan. You keep hearing that coppers must have heard every excuse under the sun but what about all the fantasy shit that has been told to the general population by them🤓
AA003 ·
DubbyDo wrote:Arm out the window fines, speeding fines, parking fines... before you know it there will be smoking in car fines. Where does it end?
This really is the Bogan forum!
donn ·
There is already a law against smoking in a vehicle, at least when children are in the car, and fair enough too I reckon. 👍
empi ·
Are the police qualified to make judgement on parts of cars that are road worthy ???
Mechanics are.... what training do the people that enforce the fines have other than basic police training???
MickH ·
empi wrote:Are the police qualified to make judgement on parts of cars that are road worthy ???
Mechanics are.... what training do the people that enforce the fines have other than basic police training???
Yes they are. They receive training when they do their driver training (QLD).
AA003 ·
MickH wrote:
empi wrote:Are the police qualified to make judgement on parts of cars that are road worthy ???
Mechanics are.... what training do the people that enforce the fines have other than basic police training???
Yes they are. They receive training when they do their driver training (QLD).
I don't think that they are taught about Empi shifters etc.
They probably only spend a very brief amount of time on roadworthy checking.
hrastovica ·
donn wrote:There is already a law against smoking in a vehicle, at least when children are in the car, and fair enough too I reckon. 👍
My parents smoked in the car when i was a kid and i turned out fine 🤪
vlad01 ·
empi wrote:Are the police qualified to make judgement on parts of cars that are road worthy ???
Mechanics are.... what training do the people that enforce the fines have other than basic police training???
highway patrol are fully trained for this, regular police aren't, at least in vic thats how it is.