People driving slow

Anyone notice like 99% drive slow on the highways and getting worse over the years?


On the way to work, I fly pass like 100 cars, might only have 1 or 2 cars overtake me and I'd be doing 108-110 with 0.2km/h speedo error.


Interestingly I drove few other cars before and most were out 5-10km reading faster, making you drive slower than you think. My sister's car is so far out at 110km people were up my ass and getting angry. I have to drive 118km/h to get to 110km/h and then only I would flow with the traffic.

The other thing is no newer cars seem to have high res speedo, typically having either 5 or 10k graduations where my car has 2k graduations but very sharp needle so you can read to about 0.5k with good accuracy.

The digital speedo of the late 80s early 90s were stupidly accurate as well.

discussion begin!

I agree!!!

There is so much danger in people being obstructions by not achieving the speed limit on SE-QLD roads, including them right-lane snail bandits. I curse them when i loose my momentum in the tired old baja. No excuse in that their mod con car can't reach the limit when my ol' truck can 'eventually' make it.

Enough of the safety messages through promoting 'slowing down', we require road side motivational's for safety in doing the speed limit!

Maybe i should hire a billboard with some hot chick racer saying the following:

"Com'on! You can do it!! Reach that speed limit! - A safety message brought to you by people whom think you drive like a twat".

Or maybe a road transport safety car with giant padded arms that extend three lanes to help shove them forward, similar to the japanese train staff that load the people into the over crowded carriages.

I had a a-hole in a BF falcon going like 95-100 and sitting in the right lane the whole way. grrr! got past eventually in the left lane.

the other things I can't understand is>

1. people driving ok speed then slow down when overtaking someone to the point they are no longer overtaking. wtf is with that! then they block the lanes for ks and ks.

2. you over taking at blazing speed compared to them and they all of the sudden speed up not letting you over take, you slowly get ahead of them and have to got bit over the limit to do so, all the sudden the when you get a 1m ahead of them, they hit the anchors and fly back like they hit a concrete wall. LOL 30 sec later they are like 2km back. I get this ALL of the time and can not understand for the life of me why?

I should get a dash cam, some of the strange behaviors are a pisser but annoying at the same time.

NONE SHALL PASS!!!!
😂

modnrod wrote:NONE SHALL PASS!!!!
😂

Hi

I think everybody is so scared of being booked that they just drive slow to be sure.

I have a reasonably new Hi Lux for work and its about 10 kph optimistic.

I really try to keep left unless overtaking, but time and time again I move over to left only to find people who were behind me in right lane slow down when they get next to me, then the traffic builds up behind them causing a bankup.

I also find people slow down when near trucks which does the same thing on multi lane roads.

It was so good driving in LA where speed limits seemed to be a rough guide and the driver were so courteous, I guess its the shoot or take legal action mentality.

Steve

Most speedos read 5-10% optomistic to comply with ADRs.

AA003 wrote:Most speedos read 5-10% optomistic to comply with ADRs.

I heard of that too, explains why all are optimistic and not out the other way.

So when people drive 5 or 10 under to be safe are doing actually 15-20 under.

That is why I am flying pass everyone.

1303Steve wrote:Hi

I think everybody is so scared of being booked that they just drive slow to be sure.

I have a reasonably new Hi Lux for work and its about 10 kph optimistic.

I really try to keep left unless overtaking, but time and time again I move over to left only to find people who were behind me in right lane slow down when they get next to me, then the traffic builds up behind them causing a bankup.

I also find people slow down when near trucks which does the same thing on multi lane roads.

It was so good driving in LA where speed limits seemed to be a rough guide and the driver were so courteous, I guess its the shoot or take legal action mentality.

Steve

yes yes, the tucks. that is where I see most people slow down to a crawl. I actually speed up a little when overtaking just in case they try to "you shall not pass!" on me.

even with cop on the road, everyone shits bricks and slows down, I just plow past 😂. Im not doing anything wrong so no need to slow down.

Actually saw an accident nearly happen when a cop on a bike over took a car and the driver sort of panicked and slowed down, saw the cop waving at the driver I guess to telling the driver off for suddenly slowing down. And then a car merged in front, heap in front 300m roughly, that same car hit the brakes, cars behind going off lol.

I hit the brakes in the right lane passing as I didn't trust this car in case it pulled out in front of me going way too slow. People like this are too unpredictable. 🤪

Guilty on all accounts 😀

I'm never in a hurry to get any where. Even if I do overtake its only because the person in front has slowed down so they can take a photo of my car, then speed off anyways.

So I just sit in the left lane doing what ever traffic allows.

I'm with you nils, though I drive by GPS speedo I still go with the flow, the posted speed limit is the maximum permissible not the speed that you MUST drive at, if you are courteous and predictable that's all you and other road users need. Not all road users are competent or confident at higher speeds or their vehicle safe for one reason or another at the higher speeds

Driving to the conditions doesn't mean it's a sunny day I'll blast along at the maximum permissible speed!

The speed limit is a "limit" a "Maximum limit" that's why it's called a "limit" not "a challenge."

Driving to conditions means ALL conditions, your capability (not everyone is Schumacher's cousin, the condition of your vehicle, the road, etc.

Totally agree with the road hogs, hogging the right hand lane though. Pity they can't read English. "Keep left unless overtaking." applies on any multiple lane road with a speed limit of more than 80kph.

Ken

donn wrote:I'm with you nils, though I drive by GPS speedo I still go with the flow, the posted speed limit is the maximum permissible not the speed that you MUST drive at, if you are courteous and predictable that's all you and other road users need. Not all road users are competent or confident at higher speeds or their vehicle safe for one reason or another at the higher speeds

I'm with you donn, however I feel that if a driver is not competent or confident, he or she maybe should seek some extra training. Same goes for a vehicle that is not "safe"....it should be. There are other road users to consider.

1303Steve wrote:I have a reasonably new Hi Lux for work and its about 10 kph optimistic.

I drove a new Hiace a few months ago, same thing and mums new Barina is about 10km fast at 110.

Pays to go by a GPS in modern cars, they are so quite and smooth its very easy for your speed to creep up, you're well aware when speeding in an old dub.

The signposted speed limit is 85% of the maximum safe speed for all roads in Australia (excluding school zones).

A law is open to interpretation by those who enforce it.
A rule must be enforced.
Are speed limits road rules or laws? (methinks they are laws).

Slow drivers and road hogs should be penalised!!! 😬

MY68VW wrote:The signposted speed limit is 85% of the maximum safe speed for all roads in Australia (excluding school zones).

A law is open to interpretation by those who enforce it.
A rule must be enforced.
Are speed limits road rules or laws? (methinks they are laws).

Slow drivers and road hogs should be penalised!!! 😬

this!

I normally stay in the left lane and follow the traffic.
IN the case of single lane highways I do the speed limit when someone is behind me. When I'm all alone I'll back off 10kmh or so. When I hit a overtaking lane I will slow down to let people past,.. especially if I'm dragging the trailer with some crappy vw on it.😂
Both our daily drives are perfectly safe but they are old and are not suited to sitting at 110kmh for long periods.

However it annoys me when I leave a safe distance to the car in front the number of people behind me that go around to jump in front then slow down then get off at the next exit. Crazy😬

I think perhaps that's why some people hog the right lane.

and don't get me started about merging,.. that's a whole new topic.😂

I take my hat off to big truck drivers. They deal with this crap every day.
I think in the case of 3 or more laned roads they should get their own lane. Keep everyone else out of it. I think that would be safer for everyone, and give the truck drivers a break from idiot car drivers who have no idea especially ones with caravans.

When a big truck passes me,.. I flash my lights twice when they are past so they know it's safe to cut in front.
Most flash their indicators right then left to say thanks.

This is common practice in the USA. I think it's a good one.

Joel wrote:

1303Steve wrote:I have a reasonably new Hi Lux for work and its about 10 kph optimistic.

I drove a new Hiace a few months ago, same thing and mums new Barina is about 10km fast at 110.

Pays to go by a GPS in modern cars, they are so quite and smooth its very easy for your speed to creep up, you're well aware when speeding in an old dub.

only thing is GPS read slower going up or down hill I found by a few ks. Trigonometry! think about it.

When I go down hill my speedo picks up and my GPS drops. kinda cool i reckon.

so the barina was doing 120 GPS at 110 speedo indication?

Yep done it since new, Holden reckon its not an issue and they all do it.

Carl and Emily wrote:However it annoys me when I leave a safe distance to the car in front the number of people behind me that go around to jump in front then slow down then get off at the next exit. Crazy😬

I think perhaps that's why some people hog the right lane.

and don't get me started about merging,.. that's a whole new topic.😂

getting that 1-2 car lengths ahead is going to make all the difference, thought you knew 😉

probably wouldnt bug me so much if I lived in the city and had to put up with it daily.
(mind the language)

Carl and Emily wrote:However it annoys me when I leave a safe distance to the car in front the number of people behind me that go around to jump in front then slow down then get off at the next exit. Crazy😬

I think perhaps that's why some people hog the right lane.

I hate this with a passion! people always steal my braking gap 😬

I do sometime hog the right lane sort of. I stick to the right to over take say 15-20 cars at once that are driving bumper to bumper at highway speeds and move in to wide gaps amongst cars that are moving at comparable speeds to me.

Or if I am overtaking a whole stack of cars and someone behind me is catching up fast, I'll momentarily pull in to a gap big enough and let them pass and pull back out and continue to a spot I feel is safe to cruise on.


on one bit of road I get the whole left lane to myself out of the stupid sheep behavior of the other drivers. I dont know if any of you guys know the Calder outbound between Keillor and Calder raceway.

😂😂 well, its an 80 zone, I stick to 80. literally 99% of the drivers are going along bumper to bumper at 100k or more in the right lane trying to overtake each other all together, meanwhile I drive in the left lane all by myself with couple of k free in front of me. Everyday! like this 😂

where is the logic?? and they do police blitzes on that road coz they know 99% speed there 24/7. stupid people are like dumb sheep 😂

Soon as its hits the 100 zone I quickly catch up and its switches to me overtaking everyone else. The fun part is the 100k sign, I don't accelerate till I get past its, some driver fly past just before the sign, 3 sec later they see me zoom past them in the left lane. Seems people only have one speed they do.

On a trip to Lismore area though the wombat forest and ballarat on friday I had heaps of driver do the 1 speed fits all thing. stuck behind them the whole way on the highways going too slow, get to a town and I slow down to the limits, they dont and go though the 60 zones at 80-90k of the highway limits before hand. Then drivers behind me get all angry cos I am doing the limit 🤪.

Once I get to the 80, then 100 zone they are left for dead, shortly after I catch up to the driver that sped through the town and get stuck going slow again ffs! ggrrrrr! 😬

Joel wrote:Yep done it since new, Holden reckon its not an issue and they all do it.

Carl and Emily wrote:However it annoys me when I leave a safe distance to the car in front the number of people behind me that go around to jump in front then slow down then get off at the next exit. Crazy😬

I think perhaps that's why some people hog the right lane.

and don't get me started about merging,.. that's a whole new topic.😂

getting that 1-2 car lengths ahead is going to make all the difference, thought you knew 😉

probably wouldnt bug me so much if I lived in the city and had to put up with it daily.

All other cars I driven do it the other way, actual speed is slower than speedo reading. But I reckon other than building in extra margin, there is pure laziness in manufactures calibrating their car's instruments.

certain makes of old cars are way more accurate than the new cars hands down.

Sorry misread what you wrote, speedo reads faster than actual speed.

Joel wrote:Sorry misread what you wrote, speedo reads faster than actual speed.

ahh yes, makes sense. they been like that since late 90s from what I gather.

Hi

The other weekend I went up to Newcastle, had a great run up on the Sunday morning, coming back I found the left lane quicker, just had to change lanes every now and again when someone was using the left lane for its intended purpose.

Steve

if everyone used the lanes correctly there wouldn't be so much trouble and traffic will flow better. 😁

I often sit in the far left lane with the cruise control on 100 and get passed by virtually everyone. When I flick the computer on my dash to digital readout, it shows 100 and the analogue speedo is showing pretty much the same in our Golf.
I remember once sitting in the left lane going up a hill with a left hand curve at the top before it starts going downhill again. There was a clown roared up beside me in the right lane until beside me and then slowed down as we got close to the left lane ending. It wasn't even as though I had been holding him up (I was doing the speed limit). I was having to brake to get in behind him so I decided to teach him a lesson so I accelerated back up to the speed limit instead and merged in front of him (I had slowed a little to let him get in front before my lane stopped and he had started pacing me when he got beside me). Didn't seem happy about that at all but serves him right for being an inconsiderate idiot and not continuing at the same speed he was doing. 😀

Yogie

GPS speed reading for me EVERY TIME!
I drive a lot, many kms a week, so if that's the speed limit I am on it, traffic permitting
my T5 and mk 6 golf are about 7% less than the GPS speed rate
I have a chuckle every time I hear that individual units are not calibrated, so are not reliable,
the only thing we need to know is that the US military have the gps satellites calibrated in unison, as if they were not, all the planes would basically fall out of the sky..
if you are not that confident in driving please stay in the left lane as I will be barreling past you..
not everyone passing you is 'actually' speeding..
if I was I wouldn't have a licence..
my 2c

from wiki below. What is not mentioned here is the satellite have on board atomic clocks and corrections for the local space/time that runs at a different rate dictated by the laws of general relativity.

Anyway, GPS receiver don't get calibrations, its all calculated against the know constant of the speed of light and basic mathematics.

"A GPS receiver calculates its position by precisely timing the signals sent by GPS satellites high above the Earth. Each satellite continually transmits messages that include:

the time the message was transmitted and,
satellite position at time of message transmission.

The receiver uses the messages it receives to determine the transit time of each message and computes the distance to each satellite using the speed of light. Each of these distances and satellites' locations defines a sphere. The receiver is on the surface of each of these spheres when the distances and the satellites' locations are correct. These distances and satellites' locations are used to compute the location of the receiver using the navigation equations. This location is then displayed, perhaps with a moving map display or latitude and longitude; elevation or altitude information may be included, based on height above the geoid (e.g. EGM96).

Basic GPS measurements yield only a position, and neither speed nor direction. However, most GPS units can automatically derive velocity and direction of movement from two or more position measurements. The disadvantage of this principle is that changes in speed or direction can only be computed with a delay, and that derived direction becomes inaccurate when the distance travelled between two position measurements drops below or near the random error of position measurement. GPS units can use measurements of the doppler shift of the signals received to compute velocity accurately.[47] More advanced navigation systems use additional sensors like a compass or an inertial navigation system to complement GPS.

In typical GPS operation, four or more satellites must be visible to obtain an accurate result. The solution of the navigation equations gives the position of the receiver along with the difference between the time kept by the receiver's on-board clock and the true time-of-day, thereby eliminating the need for a more precise and possibly impractical receiver based clock. Applications for GPS such as time transfer, traffic signal timing, and synchronization of cell phone base stations, make use of this cheap and highly accurate timing. Some GPS applications use this time for display, or, other than for the basic position calculations, do not use it at all.

Although four satellites are required for normal operation, fewer apply in special cases. If one variable is already known, a receiver can determine its position using only three satellites. For example, a ship or aircraft may have known elevation. Some GPS receivers may use additional clues or assumptions such as reusing the last known altitude, dead reckoning, inertial navigation, or including information from the vehicle computer, to give a (possibly degraded) position when fewer than four satellites are visible.[48][49][50]
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GPS, hhmmmm.
I work at a satellite tracking station, we also have (for those of you, like me, who disdain and despair of technology and electronics, please substitute for the following........."Blah, blah, blah, blah!") receivers and repeaters for DORIS, GNSS, VLBI, etc, etc. We can accurately plot our position on the earths crust to about a millimetre.
At a point along our gravel road leading into the station grounds, right near a breakaway consisting mostly of ironstone, your GPS unit will actually go "Huh?!?!", and try to tell itself it's in China. Takes about 4 seconds to get over itself and carry on looking rather embarrassed about the whole thing.
Just saying. 😉

Speeds? Oh yeah. Whatever I feel reasonable for the conditions and whatever old pile of crap I happen to be driving at the time, so usually slow.
The Freeway is just the smoothest way that old POS can tow my dragbike to the dragstrip.........

We'll while we are all being so righteous (me included) I'd like to pick a few comments in here to discuss
1. A GPS reads slower up hill or down hill......is it really that noticeable or measurable, considering the info in the post of 11.08pm I doubt this would be the case
2. I'm probably wrong, it happened once before👍, but I think the keep left rule applies to posted speed limits of 80kph or above, not above 80.
3. Drivers who are not competent or confident should seek further training, now I know that this opinion wasn't directed at me ( it wasn't was it ?) but here's an eg. I consider myself to be both confident and competent, a year or so back I did a trip from Newcastle to WA and back, except for one stretch going into Ceduna where I hit a bit over 120 (speedo reading ) I doubt if I went much over 95kph the whole trip, I was overtaken many times by 4x4's towing vans big enough to house half of the boat people who have arrived here in the last 10 years, in my considered opinion anyone driving a rig of that size at the speeds that they were traveling at is just plain f@&$d in the head, maximum allowable ion WA when towing is 80kph I believe,but that's a story for a different time. I was in the wench towing a small trailer, at posted speeds I believe my " rig " would have been above my ability to control in the event of an emergency or unforeseen drama, in this case I consider that I was both confident and competent, AND considerate in that I always moved over to let overtaking vehicles through.
4. An unsafe vehicle should not be on the road...we all drive older vehicles, there's no way you will convince me that any of those vehicles are as safe as any modern well maintained vehicle is, regardless of how diligent we are in maintaining our pride and joy, the wench would be something to behold in the event of a collision. That aside how do any one of us know what the circumstances are of any other car or driver sharing the road with us. Case in point....many years ago I owned a Comodore, 4 slotter, black vinyl roof, dark red paintwork, a nice vehicle for its time, a well maintained company vehicle,on a trip up the coast I had a problem develop, with the front left tyre, checked the boot (it's a boot , not a trunk for all you want to be Americans) only to find that the previous driver of the vehicle had removed the jack and not replaced it ( found out latter that it was on the bench in his garage ) so there I was limping along at a speed considerably below the speed limit with a big bulge on the inner sided of my tyre, was I driving an unsafe vehicle? Bet your arse I was, did I have any choice? f$&@k no, no mobile phones in those days, a wife and 2 kids in the car so not going to head off on foot in the middle of summer leaving them alone on the side of the road. So I drove on at speed that the vehicle was safe at. Consider always that you don't know the other fellas circumstance and give him / her some consideration.
5. Penalise the slow driver? Consider the possibility of the other blokes situation.
6. The speed limit is 85% of the safe speed......I can show you a well travelled road within 1 1/2 hours of my home with a posted speed limit of 100kph, two vehicles could not travel side by side on this road without each having 2wheels in the gravel... A rare exception I know but none the less there are plenty of roads out there with unrealistic speed limits posted.
Here endeth the lesson / rant

Im in my work ute 8-12 hours a day, I set my cruise control to the GPS in the Panasonic Toughbook that I get my jobs through, touch wood havnet been nabed for speeding for about 18 years, my bug has a GPS hud so I drive to the speed shown

Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense, I think the preoccupation with watching our speedos all the time must affect our ability to observe what's going on around us

Donn. depending on the GPS receiver, some dont account for vertical speed. when driving up or down hill a proportion of your surface speed is distributed to the verticle direction and since the GPS is only accounting for horizonal speed it only sees the remaining portion of the total surface or slope speed minus the vertical.

On my GPS, this is noticeable and very noticeable on steep hills.

for example on a 45º hill a GPS that only accounts for horizontal speed would read 0.707 times the speedo speed.

Pretty sure most GPSs now days can calculate speed in 3D. mine is 5 years old and doesn't obviously.



That actually makes me wonder what the actual speed I was doing on my BMX down this massive steep hill, same GPS said I was going 68km/h, seems faster than that.
I need to go measure the angle of the road now so I can find out 😂

Its a bloody steep hill for sure!

1303Steve wrote:Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense, I think the preoccupation with watching our speedos all the time must affect our ability to observe what's going on around us

it does!

lots of times where I been caught out on things happening in front have been checking speed or checking mirrors. only takes a split sec for something to happen in front.

On my way to Brisbane from Coloundra a guy in a subaru wagon was in the right hand lane doing 95KPH in the 110KPH zone, traffic banked up and people were passing on the left, when another car came up in the left lane he accelerated to cut the people off in the left lane that were passing him and paced the car on the left stopping all overtaking, i eventally passed him on the left and he gave me the bird, he drove this way until i left at morayfield, dozens of keep left signs on the highway.
He should be shot with a ball of his own shit. it is a wonder someone did not run him off the road.

1303Steve wrote:Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense

The worst ones around here are the rural school zones.
Most around here don;t have the new flashing signs yet so its very easy to get caught out.
I have one about a Km down the road from my house and the cops often sit there.

Having to slow from 100 to 40 a million KMs before you even get close to the school is a joke.
50 or 60 would still be safe and they don't need to start half a KM down the road either.

I agree.

Knowing when they start or stop without the timed flashing lights is hard when you don't have a clock of any kind in your car. I have to get my phone out and check when going though school zones. Bit of a joke

Knowing when shool holidays is also one I mess up on as I don't know holidays are on cos I have no reference to it. Living in a rural area, only got cows and chooks to tell me 🙄 have no forms of media, no Friends that have kids.

Only found out on Friday holidays were on cos school zone wasn't flashing at the times signed at a few towns I went though.



Lucky for me, the local school zone actually start and ends where the school is.

also whats up with school times starting at 2pm? no one goes home at 2pm!

1303Steve wrote:Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense, I think the preoccupation with watching our speedos all the time must affect our ability to observe what's going on around us

some I seen is apparent towns, where actually I see 1 or 2 farm houses in the distance, drops from 100 to 60 for 300m or so then back to 100 ❗❓

MY68VW wrote:The signposted speed limit is 85% of the maximum safe speed for all roads in Australia (excluding school zones).

A law is open to interpretation by those who enforce it.
A rule must be enforced.
Are speed limits road rules or laws? (methinks they are laws).

Slow drivers and road hogs should be penalised!!! 😬

In a world where law enforcement has been confused with revenue raising, going slow will not be seen as an event to be penalised.
Exceeding the limit is easily detected, therefore easily enforced, and revenue collection is autonomously applied.

1303Steve wrote:Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense, I think the preoccupation with watching our speedos all the time must affect our ability to observe what's going on around us

x2
And with the constant variation with posted limits, the resultant confusion can only contribute to revenue raised.
Is this an accident?

😁 I go for the journey not just to get to some place.😁

hard to enjoy a journey when its like this.

I go to places where hardly anyone drives just to drive so I don't have others getting in the way.

1/ It was in 2006 that Victoria introduced the law that insisted all new cars speedoes had to read higher than actual speed. I was pulled over in my 12 month old Jumbuck purchased by me new in 2011. I was apparently speeding clocked at 108kph. speedo read 102. Received a fine. When I complained to the cuntstable(?) about the possibility my speedo must be reading low he was about to put a canary on it!!! I asured him I'd take it up with Proton. I did and they was made to readjust it.
2/ Agree with others. Speed limit is not the default speed you should achieve. This mentality that one should drive slower has only been around for the last 20 years. As a kid in our Austin driving at our usual 45 mph Fairlane V8's would pass us at their usual 60mph. This was all accpeted practice and not a word ever spoken that "you should be driving at the limit" likely because many cars couldnt reach it
3/ Like many laws introduced to fix a problem Victoria brought in one in that if you didnt keep to the left (when not overtaking) you were fined. I'd like to see the number of fines issued. Seems to me police are only interested in the easy fine, the one less likely opposed in court.
4/ The older you get the less nerve you have. I've noticed a decline in my nerves. I'm 58yo. I used to club race Lotus powered twin cam Ford Escorts in my 20's, motorcross bikes and the like. Sharp as a button. Now I drive slower and fear the worst. I once drove from home to a shop 5kms away. On my return 10 minutes later I believed I kenw the condition of the road well enough to speed up. While I had been away from that route some oil was spilt on the road and I went carreering of into a ditch. Anything can happen. Just sayin'
5/ I think the main reason people sit 5-10 kph under the limit now is speed cameras. And that should be understood.

tweety wrote:4/ The older you get the less nerve you have. I've noticed a decline in my nerves.

Crikey tweety, I thought is was just me ! 😂

Set up a GPS in the Capitva yesterday to test how low the speedo was reading - averaged 5km below the limit.
Another thing I noticed was to achieve the posted limit I would need the speedo needle on the cusp of the numeral on the dial eg; the right side of the last 0 in 60, 80, 100.

Drove home from work late last night/early morning on an empty road and drove on the upper end of the 85th percentile rule; doing 117kmh (gps reading) in a 100zone - speedo was reading 122kmh.
Doing 94kmh in an 80 zone and I felt like I was driving much faster than I should for those areas.
I took an alternate route and did a stint on the freeway (110kmh zone) and took the GPS up to 129kmh and set cruise control - speedo indicated just shy of 140kmh.

taking my brother to hoppers crossing to pick up a 4L60 E for his ute yesterday.

driving 110 on the calder by speedo , gps 110 👍

can't beat old cars for accuracy!

of course, got 2 dickheads going bit under sitting in the right lane for the whole 75km.🙄

Joel wrote:

1303Steve wrote:Donn there are many instances around where the speed limit makes no sense

The worst ones around here are the rural school zones.
Most around here don;t have the new flashing signs yet so its very easy to get caught out.
I have one about a Km down the road from my house and the cops often sit there.

Having to slow from 100 to 40 a million KMs before you even get close to the school is a joke.
50 or 60 would still be safe and they don't need to start half a KM down the road either.

Joel as Rudi a customer of mine for many years says "Roads are for cars,footpaths are for people in Germany you step onto the road and splat" Educate the morons or fence the school area and have a pedestrian crossing gate controlled by traffic lights. This would allow the traffic to travel at a reasonable speed unlike Pennant Hills road or Blaxland road and a million other roads in the country. When we were on holidays I think i saw a few school zones with 80kph so perhaps the kids run faster there.🙅