me noticed that the pics are appearing as attachments and you have to click on them all, having little windows opening everywhere....
what gives. is it just a moment thing or has some one decided that it would apparently make it better.
i personally find it more frustrating and want to put forward an objection. espesh when you havnt read a topic and you have to catch up by clickin all htese attachments. makes the whole thing more cumbersom (sp?). get all these windows everywhere and it just doesnt flow.
has anyone else noticed it or have something to add?
cray ·
small move to save some bandwidth perhaps?
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by cray]
twoguns ·
i would say a 'small move'....
makes viewing a lot more annoying and interupted, i think.
cray ·
true, but are you paying the bills?
jenz58 ·
See what you mean now twoguns:jesus
People may get very sick of having to wait for the attachment windows to pop up and not both
Maybe taking the size of pics down some more would have been better if it was a bandwidth problem?
Some sites have thumbnail size and if you want to see a larger pic you click on the thumbnail:thumb
At least you're holding peoples interest🙂
jenz58 ·
p.s. there is someone in the background here trying to keep this all happening for us and trying alternatives to stop the problem of exceeding bandwidth etc
It's a thankless task I would imagine🙁
So thank you to that person for trying so hard🙂
BenettonVW ·
I'd rather trim old posts than do it this way..
Black_math ·
Its really annoying cause i just got pics of my dub up and you cant see em straight up you have to click on a stupid link🙁
jenz58 ·
In General Chat we go back to August of last year and to page 83
Maybe set a page limit in this area, maybe only 20 - 30 pages
Start a topic area for pics of shows and events so they're not lost
How much space would that free?
I'm happy to start up the new topic area and move the posts that have show/event pics:sandrine
Would this work?
VDUBXTC ·
posts need to be deleted every few months. if ya post something for sale and ya sell it delete it. there is just becoming to many pages.
i to thank the person or persons trying to keep this forum going
helterskelter400 ·
if ya got a inet connection they give you disk space for a web site.
i for one dont use mine.
there must be lots of web space not utilised.
is ther some way we can part host avd???
jenz58 ·
OK we have 57 pages in Buy, Swap and Sell area
Possibly only needs to be 10 pages max?
I just tried to sen a u2u and had exceeded my limit:jesus
Had not been deleting in or out's. Have just gone and deleted 99.9% which must have freed up heaps of space:thumb
Is anyone else as slack as me at this? Go delete some if you are🙂
Black_math ·
Wellwe have to do something, cause this is pissing me off big time😠 but ile do whatever i can to get normal pics bak
cray ·
i think it's more to do with bandwidth or data transfer used than actual disk space on the server...
jenz58 ·
So it's a pics or graphics issue you think?
Would going thumbnail size help though? Seems to be what others do
We have had some very impressive pics on here😎
Hope we can get pics in some form back:thumb
zac_smits ·
hey guys,
from what i remember, it was due to bandwidth problems as we r continually hitting the limit. i know it was down today caus i tried. definately one in favour of trimming old posts, but do they automatically come off your post count? as with lost posts?
zac
cray ·
i suppose it would, but running software to resize the pics to thumbnail sizes to display on each page would probably chew up a lot of server resources.
but i'm just speculating anyways, who knows, the attachments might be as links now for a completely different reason :P
vanderaj ·
Okay, here's the deal - we've cracked 14 GB a month, which is Not Good. Brad's got a combined 16 GB/month plan, and I'm not too sure we can go much more than that.
I didn't adjust this setting, but it will reduce our bill *a lot*.
Can the people who have graphical signatures please keep their total avatar and signature size to 10 kB? My avatar is 3k in size, and all of the avatars I produce for people are less than 5 kb.
Andrew
zac_smits ·
vanderaj....i'm not sure what mine is but if it's too big...tell me, make it smaller, or delete the gif from the signature
zac
helterskelter400 ·
hokay
put your ride on ur avatar small like.
sig & other poo is a wast o space.
save space for full on vw info eh....
dont want no popups again:jesus
vanderaj ·
For example, I resampled Jim's logo:
Instead of downloading it as an uncacheable 25,139 bytes, it's now a cacheable 5775 bytes, a saving of 435%.
For a 56 k modem user, 25139 bytes takes 251390 bits / 48000 bps = 5.25 seconds to download. Saving 193640 / 48000 = 4.0 seconds off this is a major achievement...
Plus as the image is now cacheable, the image will be inlined as a "not moved" response in a HTTP 1.1 reply, so *each* post of Jim's will save us the full 25139 bytes and the associated 5.25 seconds to download. So if Jim posts 5 times on a page, and it's your first visit, Jim's posts alone will save you 127 kb and 26 seconds of download time.
Please optimize your images and the use of them. If you need help, ask.
Andrew
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by vanderaj]
Black_math ·
I have to get rid of my beautiful signature 🙁 goodbye fair signature
BenettonVW ·
So is that done for me?? Always lovely to be made an example of in public.. 🙂
helterskelter400 ·
xceptions r always made for god
ask any religion
vanderaj ·
BenettonVW wrote:So is that done for me?? Always lovely to be made an example of in public.. 🙂
Yep, but I don't have any tools to deal with your 33 kB animated avatar. 🙂
PS if you have a higher quality version than the GIF you had in your sig, I can make it even better looking and smaller! 🙂
Andrew
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by vanderaj]
zac_smits ·
i got ridf of my signature...the gif was 22000bytes or sumthing
little things can do a lot if we all help
Brad ·
I am the big bad ass hole who took away the attachmnets. It was a last ditch effort to make it until midnight when I get next months allocation of Bandwith.
This month is the biggest we have had bandwidth wise with 14 GB being hit.
Disk space is not an issue as we hve plenty of that.
I am pulling bandwidth of paying customers at the moment so if it goes down again before midnight that is all she wrote I am afraid.
In relation to keeping this from happening again we have two options.
- skimp and save where we can, ie reduce avatars to under 5kb where they should be, same same with sig graphics
- or get more $$$ out of people to buy more bandwidth.
If people have webspace of their own then they can load their images up onto there and link them rather than attach them to posts. This means the image uses someone elses bandwidth.
Anyway it is almost refresh time so will not be a problem.
Once refresh has occured the images will be back 😀
jenz58 ·
Cool Brad:thumb
Sandrine can go on my signature🙂
The Pixie dust was concerning some people anyway:P
Done🙂
OK should I keep the smilies to a limit of one or two per post? *jenz looks questionally* cos there's no smilie for that🙂
Arghhhh!!!! A smilie for every line there!!!! *eek*
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by jenz58]
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by jenz58]
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by jenz58]
vanderaj ·
Black_math wrote:I have to get rid of my beautiful signature 🙁 goodbye fair signature
Nah, I resampled it down to 40% quality and played around with the encoding ... a bit. It has a little noise compared to the previous image, but's only ~ 60% the size of the previous edition.
Saved 13300 - 7,827 = 5473 bytes, a 41% improvement. Plus it's now absolutely cacheable as it's on our server.
Andrew
Black_math ·
kool, can i have that one and where can i find it? thanks for that 😀:thumb
[Edited on 30/9/2003 by Black_math]
vanderaj ·
um, look carefully 🙂
Andrew
Black_math ·
My picture? sorry im really tierd and dont know whats going on:P
jenz58 ·
Andrew:cussing:cussing
I think😉 (it was almost a sticking out tongue:P)
Oops, did that make it worse?????🙁
Not meant to.
Only kidding cos I know all of this must be a headache:sandrine
[Edited on 30-9-2003 by jenz58]
Black_math ·
Is the one i have now the one you shrunk down?
jenz58 ·
Don't know if anything has been shrunk down ???
A lot of my stuff is in jest, so don't take me too seriously😉
There is a serious bandwidth problem, which I've noticed, and has so many others when we can't get online here🙁
We don't pay anything for the pleasure of participating in the forum but someone does.
They have a limit as to how much pleasure they can allow others to have ($$$$ wise I'm imagining)
We moved here to avoid the expense of paying, or, other option, lots and lots of pop-ups🙁
Someone has taken a big risk to support us, and to keep our Vee Dubbing freedom:sandrine:kiss
Seems like things are getting real close now
What do we do??
Ok it's not so much posts but graphics and things that take up bandwidth
Stay tuned as things are being discussed😎
Keep posting:kiss
vanderaj ·
Black_math wrote:Is the one i have now the one you shrunk down?
Yep. 🙂
Andrew
Black_math ·
Thankyou😀😀😀 I much happier now:thumb😀
[Edited on 30/9/2003 by Black_math]
Brad ·
Anytime now and the images will be back .....
jenz58 ·
Kewl😘)
Black_math ·
😀!Yey!😀i know im happy adn i hope the rest of you will be too😀
twoguns ·
this is sooo much better, and thanks for the explaination brad. i jsut couldnt stand the attch thing goin' on.
vanderaj... is my sig and stuff too much? please let me know i complained first so am happy to do what i can. like the forum just as it is.
amazer ·
October/November looks pretty busy with VW events. With all the reporting that will happen I can see us running into trouble again.
helbus ·
I agree with the linking of images whenever you can if it helps. I have used other webspace and bandwidth to link my avatar and pics to.
Not only does it help this site, but I know I am using the other space I am in effect paying for.