See ya in a week 1916cc steroids coming back...

I'm heading off for a major heart transplant for Hoobie, up at Coffs Harbour (yes, it's Pobjoy territory 😉)
any guesses what's going in?
I'll take a whole bunch of photos (if i remember) and post them up to see what happens when you abuse a 'base' 1916cc engine for five years or so. Hope also to get some photos of the rebuild and painting crap that I'm cramming into the space of a week. engine only.
😀
woohoo 😀:P

hey
are you coming to coffs??? we should catch up!!!!
cheers
rhys

Pete, guess what came from America today ?????

I will give you a hint, its made from aluminum😀😀

another 2 coming very soon:o

Ile bite a pair of replica TWIN TOWERS,:o

😀😀 good guess but not right !

another hint: you can build strong motors using them 😎

Aluminium case halves :thumb

I find it easier to start with a type IV block :P

Waiting ...........

waiting ................

Come on Pete, how long does it take to fit a 1916 POBJOY - MORE POWER WITH WARRANTY?

:bounce

phoned Pobjoy on Friday, he was still there. Pulled out his Base 1916cc then fitted the steroids. He had to replace fuel lines etc and paint parts, I think he left Coffs yesterday !:thumb

I know he will have a big smile 😀

One more Aluminum cased Pobjoy Steroids hits the road 😎

HOLY $*&#@%$!!:o

Coupla interesting things about my transplantation....
1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc in my quest for even more power out of the humble VW. I asked Stan to let me watch and take some photos and stuff. he kinda shrugged and resumed talking again in his inimitable way. Upon dismantling it I felt like a criminal... it had practically no signs of wear at all!! bits like crank, camshaft, followers, heads (beautiful condition!!) conrods, the case itself was perfect, there was no coppery shit showing through the bearings, oil pump had some swirl marks where the gears touched the coverplate, carbies (look like new with a shot of carby cleaner)
and the clincher....

the freaky thing....

94mm pistons and barrels. perfect. With a dial bore gauge they came out more round (by a whole half a thou 😉) than the brand new barrels out of the box. the old rings were so good that a 15thou feeler guage was held vertically without sliding when you let go. A TIGHT fit. scrapey pressure tight. I mean what the ?!?!? I could barely believe it. Which is why the old pistons and cylinders are now on my new steroids motor, with new rings because it seems silly not to replace them while the motor's apart. After a quick hone it was obvious that there was almost no sign of where the piston had travelled either, the hone marks ran full length on the first turn. what does that mean? they're not wearing. thank god for BBQ plate 😉 I have pics, for the doubting thomases out there, but they're awaiting development.

2. (yep I just made it to 2) I now have to learn how to drive all over again. seriously. After the frantic final fitment and the hassles with meeting the pink slip (rust problems hehehe) I jumped in and almost shat myself. The torque is almost uncontrollable, with a few bunny hops making me feel like a learner driver again. The new tricky heavy duty clutch has me confused; ultra light foot pressure, super heavy engagement. so you drive around laughing like an idiot. Which I am for not resisting the urge to blow off a P plater commodore while i'm sposed to be running it in. don't tell Stan. He's already pissed at me for not checking the work the muffler shop did on my extractors. they were shocking. not only did they weld the J-pipes on (making it f$#%$% hard to get them off and on) I had one 22mm exhaust gasket and one 35mm one on the other side :o NOT HAPPY JAN. Also the ends were inherently flawed as the weld on flange was narrower than the pipe! gaaaah!! Stan buzzed them out with a grinder but he was seriously unhappy with the flow. next item on the shopping list... suitably matched high flow exhaust system.

I'm not game to ring the revs up too high yet, and as the exhaust is so restrictive it probably wouldn't be wise anyway. I'm stoked. Blown away. Grinning like an idiot.
The power of this baby is obscene. guess I'm been blabbing long enough....
have to get those pics developed.... might go for a drive 😉
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce

So we'll see it at the Sydney dyno day??????????????????

Don't be afraid to rev it. Fresh is best!

:bounce:bounce:bounce YOU LUCKY BASTARD...:bounce:bounce:bounce
😀

What ^ said🙁

didn't feel that lucky after 2 1/2 hours sleep before going to work at 7:30 😀
but hey, let the milo tin exhaust brigade slaying begin... when it's run in and has the right muffler/ exhaust hooked up. turns out that anyone can now have the same setup as me with a warranty (it's a full blown race engine... so that's kinda remarkable) but I'm happy to have one of the fastest little sleepers in town. so HAH!
Problem: I have to improve the handling before I wrap it around a pole, or drive through someone's living room $$. Also, my tires read 88 on the durometer :O translated: very hard, not much grip. To quote some dude: "How fast do you want to go? Speed costs money."
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce

Ugggghhhhhh. <drool>

That is what I should have in the Helbus but in a TypeIV motor version.

I can just imagine the looks of the Ricers and Commondores faces when ya rip 'em.

Just imagine their faces if you could even keep up or come close in a KOMBI. 😀

Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?

You'd be running 44IDFs no doubt. Have you had a blocked idle jet yet? I found that the Dellorto-type aircleaner assembly is good for stopping rubbish getting in and blocking the jets.

CYA, CT

sweet 🙂 actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?

bit of bad luck we didnt get to meet up peter!!!! i live in sawtell just south of coffs woulda been good to catch up!!!
hope the motor goes all well sounds like a great engine!!!
cheers
rhys

Doug Sweetman wrote:sweet 🙂 actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?

ummm he does doug. This is Stan's problem, everyone thinks he only builds 1916's, many wild type 4 motors as well as porsche motors have come out of his workshop. Its just that the 1916cc is the best allrounder for him to promote.:thumb

fullnoise wrote:Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?


CYA, CT

New "steroids" cam CT, the 8000rpm screamer 😀 same as Greg ward and practically the same as mine :thumb

Heads are the new ported (by CB) 044's.

Hey Pete, I hope none of my engine parts went missing last week, you know
Sydney bound.😀
You know why 94's are shit? Because they last too long ie. less rebuilds!!
By the way if your exhaust is restricted and your impressed with the performance, than your gonna shit your pants when you fix it. I know, been there done that.

Andrew Grace

LOL Andrew, I saw many bits marked with your name while I unobtrusively poked around, but he wouldn't give them to me 😀 I tried to shoehorn the massive aeroplane motor in the back of his workshop into my backseat, but he caught me trying to saw the prop in half to make it fit 😉
and i THINK I'll stick to the restrictive exhaust for a bit, while I get used to the power, also fundage doesn't allow for a merged system as yet, so it's a moot point. I'm going back up to coffs in a couple of weeks to get a professional retorque and valve adjustment, so people along the way let me know your details, and I'll drop in and bore you shitless with bragging stories about how I watched it being built. boing boing boing :P😀:thumb:bounce:bounce

1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc

Hey Pete, didn't u say that u couldn't do the drags the other week cause u had endfloat problems???

Jak

I'm on the Central Coast, so u can call in here first if u like for your first revive survive break

PS comforting to hear about the 94s
:thumb:thumb

Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!

Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!😎

Damn you Craig, DAMN YOU! *bides time*
I guess I have another few hundred K's and a few adjustments to go, then. Yep Jak I did have 6 thou of endfloat, but I couldn't figure out where it was from?!!? after dismantling it :jesus
Turns out I could have raced the bugger, but I was playing it safe (<----- overly cautious it seems) what tyre softness have you got, btw Jak?

"... so then I says, well what is 'biding' anyways...."

Get a new exhaust ASAP Pete, from what Stan said on the phone your's was strangling the base 1916 , so I hardly think you are doing the new one any favours !😠

jeez Craig I've only been back in town for a couple of days 😀 (gimme some money and I'll get the exhaust 😉)
It's obvious to me that we need more biding here..:P

looks like you'll have to drive to Hornsby then ! Maybe I could swap an exhaust for some parts !

I've got Falkan ST115 tyres Pete, they are pretty good & pretty cheap, it's the best street tyre that Falkan make, but I have found they are limited on the track. They are fantastic in the wet too.
The prices start around 100 for 15's 200 for 16's & up to 260 or so for 17's.
Hope this helps.
Jak

thats a great price Jak, they looked to be working well at Eastern creek.

Craig Torrens wrote:Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!


Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!😎

And an oil change.... Then drive it like you stole it!

Peter, do you have Hoodjaks or anything on your car?

Craig Torrens wrote:thats a great price Jak, they looked to be working well at Eastern creek.

Yeh but to go quicker I need better tyres, hopefully next year I'll have some Yokies from CT.
If u look carefully at the pics, u can see the "I'm scared shitless look on my face"
Jak

hoodjax in residence here 😀
oil change and figure out which one of the five notches on my old pulley is the right one to time by.... and clean out the pilot jets... and retorque heads and check tappets and fit decent exhaust..and THEN drive it like I stole it 😎
looks like I'll be waiting a bit to drive it like I stole it 😉

and what are these 'dellorto' aircleaners like? foamy things?

I know the looks I keep getting aren't because of the way my car looks... ahh the sweeeet drone of 44idfs :bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce

looks like beers at my house for the first service Peter 😀 Then I 'll drive it like I stole it !!:P😀

that's because you WOULD have stolen it ya bugger 😉
I'll bring the greasy rags, you bring the beer 😀

Name the date and I'LL bring the beers!
:beer
That's cause I could learn somethin' in return.
:beer x 24

only if you drink the blood of three virgins and eat a goat that's been standing on your head. no wait...
CRAIG?!?!:jesus

Not if you're one of the virgins
:repuke

And the only things I do on my head are between me and the Mrs!
:kiss

nah no virgins at Craig's house - that's coz he's f***ed! I'd rather drink homebrew to blood anyday... and not know Stan's secrets!:bounce

I'd rather drink virgin goat blood than drink MY homebrew 😀 at least the stuff that didn't explode in the bottles. ooops.
happens when you sacrifice taste for alcohol content heehehee.

but Peter, if you knew your compression ratio, you could use the homebrew as fuel !:o

what sugar added at what part of the brewing process gives you nitromethanol beer?

No need to add sugar

Pobjoy motors run S W E E E E T enough already!
😀


Yeah, I know, :puke