V-force\'s cars!!! · Aussieveedubbers

Alex Holzl · 8 Feb 2004, 10:06 pm

rhrnldi · 8 Feb 2004, 10:27 pm

Alex,

When is the V Force web site going to be finished.??

Alex Holzl · 9 Feb 2004, 4:41 pm

hey sorry about the delay but our other web site designer failed to complete his task so we had to hand the job to someone else who is right one the case i should be on the web in about a week or 2...

fullnoise · 9 Feb 2004, 5:23 pm

If there was a reality TV show that rescued half finished websites you could call them to finish it and make a show out of it.

That worked with Craig's renovations.

Websites can take a long time to get up and running. www.yokohama.com.au took 18 months with professional website developers working on it.

CYA, CT

Alex Holzl · 9 Feb 2004, 5:34 pm

but i dont hav a wife to call up for me and say wat a bad designer i am lol!!!

vw54 · 9 Feb 2004, 5:46 pm

Alex forget the web site just start spinning those spanners on the car

We all want to see it on the track with the stock engine in it to SORT it out this year not next year.

jakriz · 9 Feb 2004, 7:03 pm

thats the nicest thing u have ever said on this forum Elpresidente, your not going soft are u??:thumb

Jak

vw54 · 9 Feb 2004, 7:09 pm

Jak

Soft HA HA

Mate u know ive always got a soft spot for any race car,,,, Drag ( my faviourite ) Circuit, Hill climb any thing
I just wanna see the bloody thing finished... n on the track

Hey i will be track side chearing for it to go.

Alex Holzl · 9 Feb 2004, 8:58 pm

its not a handy cap race....

Alex Holzl · 9 Feb 2004, 9:23 pm

yeh im extremly happy with it!!! we took it for a burn the other night mmmmaaaaaaannnn its quick!!! maybe we can race up hill together... bulladealer is coming up soon isnt it?

rhrnldi · 9 Feb 2004, 9:23 pm

Pull the engine from the Green machine and put it into Dak the the Future. I am sure the old man wont mind!

Alex Holzl · 9 Feb 2004, 9:31 pm

dad wont mind but my brother will mind!! lol... ive got to put the disc on the front to get it rolling to take to performance metal craft to hav a cage put around the the engine bay...

fullnoise · 10 Feb 2004, 8:09 am

It seems Alex is following your philosophy Craig.

You bought your car too didn't you?

It was the Muller & Muller rally car before you owned it was it not?

CT

Craig Torrens · 10 Feb 2004, 9:57 am

bought mine from Steve Muller in 94' with no motor or gearbox, less the brakes and rear trailing Arms,standard front beam and standard interior! I just bought the car for the shell, pan and rollcage !

What I then Did:
Stripped the car and rebuilt it with the following work by ME

#Interior: put in VDO guages, harnesses,race seat, fire extinguisher,sports steering wheel, battery isolator, and relocated battery to the spare wheel well.
#Front Suspension: Modified a "New" beam, fitted adjusters, castor spacers, camber adjusters,new balljoints,new steering box,new tierods, Bilstein shocks, country buggy beam reinforcers, whiteline swaybars, rebuilt calipers and machined discs, new bearings.
#Rear Suspension: replaced the torsion bars with Type 3, replaced all rubbers with nolethane,fitted type 3 brakes,new wheel bearings and seals. fitted whiteline swaybars, Bilstein shocks, set ride height.
#Gearbox: Built by John Spinks. I supplied all the ratios and Quaife diff. I modified all the mounts and made bracing to the rear parcel shelf.
#Brakes: Fitted all new lines, wheel cyclinders,cables, master cylinder
#Replaced all the fuel lines and fitted an electric pump
#Floorpan was fully painted with the body off.
#Engine: Pobjoy.
#Exterior: fitted new drivers door, and bumpers as well as front guards. Repaired the rust, Then did a quick respray. !!
#Wheels : Greg Wards old wide steel ones !
Then I set the height, toe in/out ,camber, swaybars to MY settings.

So what philosophy is he following CT ???
I didn't Know his car had to be fully rebuilt and completely changed from what he purchased !!!

I thought He bought one already done, the best way to buy !:jesus

Wow if it needs all this work like mine, then he has been ripped off CT.

Or Maybe you did not know how mine was when I bought it.:repuke

Craig Torrens · 10 Feb 2004, 9:59 am

Alex Holzl wrote:yeh im extremly happy with it!!! we took it for a burn the other night mmmmaaaaaaannnn its quick!!! maybe we can race up hill together... bulladealer is coming up soon isnt it?

That would be cool .:thumb

Nice car, are you still going to sell the motor or are you keeping it ?

Alex Holzl · 10 Feb 2004, 3:30 pm

yeh unfortunatly i have to, to pay my mum back lol. but ill try to keep the fuel injection for another motor in the future... i must say there is a few things to do but we chose to buy this car in stead of gettin an oval shell and starting from scratch was that this car has countless hours and money spent on it... we got a page and a half of all the things that was done to the car from bumper to bumper it would reach the 30grand mark to do it now... is bulladealer on soon?

Alex Holzl · 10 Feb 2004, 3:42 pm

im goin to get it regestered soon so i dont have to get a log book... i have a 1997 cams manual right here too old?... im keen on any racing i just want to get out there... tell me what id hav to do from where im am now to go hillclimbing...

Craig Torrens · 10 Feb 2004, 3:50 pm

You will need a CAMS log book regardless of RTA rego.

1997 CAMS book is waaaaay tooooooooo old
The class has changed several times, so you will need the 2004 manual.

More than Happy to talk to you regarding motor racing at CAMS events.

Will talk soon.

Alex Holzl · 10 Feb 2004, 3:53 pm

Craig Torrens · 10 Feb 2004, 3:58 pm

:kiss

jakriz · 10 Feb 2004, 6:56 pm

Ribeena, Lucozade,Gatorade, glucoze tablets....................need to go for another ride.

jakriz · 11 Feb 2004, 12:18 am

back to Alex's car.

jakriz · 11 Feb 2004, 12:23 am

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Oasis · 11 Feb 2004, 1:27 am

Love the car Alex. Do you reckon a speedo that only goes up to 300kph is enough? lol
Cheers, Bill

Cam · 11 Feb 2004, 8:43 am

Man, those aero guards look the biz! Reckon your Dad will make some in kevlar, Alex? 😀

retro · 11 Feb 2004, 11:38 am

Hay Jak I am Back to keep you mob in line Take some advice dont get caught up in the DAK TO THE FUTURE FRENZIE because their already got your dak around your knees and driving. I see that you are giving Craig a hard time about the amount of work he put into his car but every time I see him at least he gets his hands dirty but your hands Jak always look manicured.:P

Cam · 11 Feb 2004, 11:41 am

*ROTFLMAO*

Retro has re-a-merged. LOL:thumb

jakriz · 11 Feb 2004, 12:02 pm

retro wrote:Hay Jak I am Back to keep you mob in line Take some advice dont get caught up in the DAK TO THE FUTURE FRENZIE because their already got your dak around your knees and driving. I see that you are giving Craig a hard time about the amount of work he put into his car but every time I see him at least he gets his hands dirty but your hands Jak always look manicured.:P

I did everything but paint work & the gearbox.........whats wrong with having a pretty car???:kiss

Back to Alex's car, the straight cut cam gears sound fantastic as well!!!

Ps welcome back retro, u have been sorely missed just like a kik in the Kunatz malaka

retro · 11 Feb 2004, 12:15 pm

jakriz wrote:
retro wrote:Hay Jak I am Back to keep you mob in line Take some advice dont get caught up in the DAK TO THE FUTURE FRENZIE because their already got your dak around your knees and driving. I see that you are giving Craig a hard time about the amount of work he put into his car but every time I see him at least he gets his hands dirty but your hands Jak always look manicured.:P
I did everything but paint work & the gearbox.........whats wrong with having a pretty car???:kiss

Back to Alex's car, the straight cut cam gears sound fantastic as well!!!

Ps welcome back retro, u have been sorely missed just like a kik in the Kunatz malaka

Thanks Jak it's good to be back with the living What times are you running again maybe the new pobjoy would interest you but really it's not the horse power its the size of your Kunatz

jakriz · 11 Feb 2004, 1:34 pm

very good , I'll pay that😀

Cam · 11 Feb 2004, 1:55 pm

Works for me too. Not only do you get TORQUE but also the on cc's to impress the no brainers who've never driven a quick car.

Alex Holzl · 11 Feb 2004, 3:01 pm

retro wrote:Hay Jak I am Back to keep you mob in line Take some advice dont get caught up in the DAK TO THE FUTURE FRENZIE because their already got your dak around your knees and driving. I see that you are giving Craig a hard time about the amount of work he put into his car but every time I see him at least he gets his hands dirty but your hands Jak always look manicured.:P

maybe craigies parents didnt show him how to clean his hands unlike jaks...

you could make them in kevlar but the prise would be to great and its pretty unnessesary...

hey jack can you put the little movie on the post?

hey craigie im gettin my window wipers ceramic coated 😀:thumb

1303 · 11 Feb 2004, 4:25 pm

Ceramic coated window wipers!!!!.........I should get mine done too.Should help me break lap records and just dominate in general!!!

Alex Holzl · 11 Feb 2004, 4:55 pm

it make your popularity go though the roof!!!

jakriz · 11 Feb 2004, 6:29 pm

Hi Bill, your car was once fitted with a 300kph speedo, does it still have it??
Jak

Alex Holzl · 11 Feb 2004, 6:47 pm

they are some good pics!!

vw54 · 11 Feb 2004, 7:45 pm

So whens the stock engine going to ???

The 4th of never or this weekend.

Alex Holzl · 11 Feb 2004, 7:59 pm

wats with dave and stockers??????

vw54 · 12 Feb 2004, 6:41 am

You said that you were going to put a Stocker engine in the car ( this year ) and get it sorted out before building a big engine fore it.

Doug Sweetman · 12 Feb 2004, 10:05 am

chuckle chuckle 🙂 nice sig Jak !!!

retro · 12 Feb 2004, 10:29 am

Alex Holzl wrote:
retro wrote:Hay Jak I am Back to keep you mob in line Take some advice dont get caught up in the DAK TO THE FUTURE FRENZIE because their already got your dak around your knees and driving. I see that you are giving Craig a hard time about the amount of work he put into his car but
every time I see him at least he gets his hands dirty but your hands Jak always look manicured.:P
Hey Alex

What's your claim to fame that your able to bag Craig OR Stan surely it isn't the fact that your son of DAK. The most talked about and over rated no go vw. When you or your mob have the runs on the board then you can bag who ever you like and I will listen. You keep bagging Pobjoy produces and the only reason I can think of is because all the rest can't come close. Another result for a car that pobjoy had some involvement in GROUP 7 SUPER SPRINT CHAMPIONSHIP WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:birthday

maybe craigies parents didnt show him how to clean his hands unlike jaks...

you could make them in kevlar but the prise would be to great and its pretty unnessesary...

hey jack can you put the little movie on the post?

hey craigie im gettin my window wipers ceramic coated 😀:thumb

jakriz · 12 Feb 2004, 11:38 am

Hey Alex

What's your claim to fame that your able to bag Craig OR Stan surely it isn't the fact that your son of DAK. The most talked about and over rated no go vw. When you or your mob have the runs on the board then you can bag who ever you like and I will listen. You keep bagging Pobjoy produces and the only reason I can think of is because all the rest can't come close. Another result for a car that pobjoy had some involvement in GROUP 7 SUPER SPRINT CHAMPIONSHIP WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:birthday

what?............Stan machined Rudy's heads........I also run a Stan Pobjoy Anti surge sump, is that the reason I did so well his year???
u really need to take a step back retro & have a look at the original post by Alex, proudly showing off his familys cars. Then see who started the slagging first, if exchanging wit with someone half your age is considered an achievment, then your goal inlife has been achieved & u can now cease breathing.
Please contribute something positive retro, it's really not that difficult.
regards
Jak

Cam · 12 Feb 2004, 1:05 pm

WTF! Retro?!?!?! When the hell has Alex ever bagged out Stan or Craig. As far as I can tell (you don't get alot of psychic energy through an LCD screen) they're just pushing each others buttons, mostly in humour and straight up competitive behaviour. So far, no one has claimed anyone elses product and/or services are shit. And so far you're the only one to of taken this to a personal level.
BTW, I don't ever remember catching your name, where you're from or what you drive?

jakriz · 12 Feb 2004, 1:25 pm

he drives one of those Nikki cars..........its just they don't have forum for them

Cam · 12 Feb 2004, 1:28 pm

Maybe he wants us to do a 1200 sp conversion on it?

Craig Torrens · 12 Feb 2004, 2:50 pm

jakriz wrote:what?............Stan machined Rudy's heads........I also run a Stan Pobjoy Anti surge sump, is that the reason I did so well his year???

Please contribute something positive retro, it's really not that difficult.
regards
Jak

Jak, a good point :thumb but I have also noticed all your post's slagging my renovations have been deleted ???

And speaking of being positive, I have never question or made fun of your acheivements regarding the Porsche days, yet you feel you can have a slag at my acheivements in your new SIG line.

The word HYPOCRITE comes to mind.

P.S Stan machined the Heads, Linebored and faced the Case, It had a Stan Pobjoy Counterweighted Crank, Stan Pobjoy 37/68 cam, Pobjoy Sump and was setup using Stan's Advice. It was not built by Stan but his engine knowledge is certainly there.
I'm not saying this is why he won, just pointing out that Stan had more involvement than what you are implying.

P.P.S I don't know retro !

Alex Holzl · 12 Feb 2004, 2:51 pm

mate i dont bag stan or craigie and wats being "DAK"s son got to do with anything. it many havent been anywhere yet but it dosnt really matter wat it does... mate i dont care if you dont listen to wat i say...there is nothing wrong with his motors but y does everyone else have to be happy with someone elses motor? soo take you useless talk some where else...

jakriz · 12 Feb 2004, 4:59 pm

I deleted the posts craig as it wasn't appropriatte.

& whats wrong with listing my achievements, I don't really have any achievements with the Porsche club except the fact that I turn up & have a go:thumb
Thats all I'm capable of really, no use pretending to be something I'm not.

Your achievements are an absolute credit to u (your driving) & Stans engine expertise, the only thing is, is that we hear it quite lot, go get that extra 10 hp & go break all your records , I'm sure u are more than capable:thumb

regards
Jak

Alex Holzl · 12 Feb 2004, 7:05 pm

how are we all??? 😀😀😀

Cam · 12 Feb 2004, 7:07 pm

I'm gooooood 😀

How about everyone else?

Alex Holzl · 12 Feb 2004, 7:13 pm

yeh not tooo bad... lol... all of my posts end up in a brawl lol oh well...

waltermitty · 13 Feb 2004, 7:17 pm

hey Alex you must be the "street fighting man" and I recon you could sort them all out on the Mortlake speedway ! Thatl fix em.
Mitchell😀

Alex Holzl · 13 Feb 2004, 7:22 pm

we should have a destruction durby with ppl from this forum!!! lol

kombikim · 13 Feb 2004, 11:44 pm

Destruction Derby:bounce at last something I can win, I will bring the Humber😀

retro · 17 Feb 2004, 10:01 am

jakriz wrote:Hey Alex

What's your claim to fame that your able to bag Craig OR Stan surely it isn't the fact that your son of DAK. The most talked about and over rated no go vw. When you or your mob have the runs on the board then you can bag who ever you like and I will listen. You keep bagging Pobjoy produces and the only reason I can think of is because all the rest can't come close. Another result for a car that pobjoy had some involvement in GROUP 7 SUPER SPRINT CHAMPIONSHIP WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:birthday

what?............Stan machined Rudy's heads........I also run a Stan Pobjoy Anti surge sump, is that the reason I did so well his year???
u really need to take a step back retro & have a look at the original post by Alex, proudly showing off his familys cars. Then see who started the slagging first, if exchanging wit with someone half your age is considered an achievment, then your goal inlife has been achieved & u can now cease breathing.
Please contribute something positive retro, it's really not that difficult.
regards
Jak

Got Ya Jak!!!!

Talk about touchie if your pushing buttons for a laugh so am I got you big time I wish the fish bit as easy as you this goes for you to alex relax man their only cars. But you better look at what you say because it can be take the wrong way just like your taken my comments the wrong way keep smiling, we could be talkin about FORDS or HOLDENS.:vader:kiss

retro · 17 Feb 2004, 10:13 am

Alex Holzl wrote:mate i dont bag stan or craigie and wats being "DAK"s son got to do with anything. it many havent been anywhere yet but it dosnt really matter wat it does... mate i dont care if you dont listen to wat i say...there is nothing wrong with his motors but y does everyone else have to be happy with someone elses motor? soo take you useless talk some where else...

Son of Dak Dak to Future dah!!!!!!!! Just want to see it go, spent many hours reading articles on DAK only to be left unfulfiled, technowledgy is passing you by I have nothing but good thoughts for DaK. Get your DAKS up and start running. 😉

Cam · 17 Feb 2004, 10:24 am

Retro, if these statements are meant in humour, could you please leave an indication as you've done on the last two with the smileys. It's just hard to tell when people are having a tease or having a go when it's all in text.
Cheers mate,
Cam

retro · 17 Feb 2004, 1:40 pm

Cam wrote:Retro, if these statements are meant in humour, could you please leave an indication as you've done on the last two with the smileys. It's just hard to tell when people are having a tease or having a go when it's all in text.
Cheers mate,
Cam

:party

Cam · 17 Feb 2004, 1:48 pm

:thumb😀:thumb

Alex Holzl · 17 Feb 2004, 7:06 pm

yeh i understand wat it means by the son of DAK... but wats your point? and his name is RICHARD...

[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Alex Holzl]

Peter Leonard · 19 Feb 2004, 1:13 pm

so not son of Dak, but Dick? 😀
(is okay I'm just stirring)

:bounce

Craig Torrens · 19 Feb 2004, 1:20 pm

so he is a "little Dick" :jesus

same as above, just stirring😀

Alex Holzl · 19 Feb 2004, 2:51 pm

lol and im alexander

Bug_racer · 3 Jan 2009, 7:50 pm

Just digging up an old thread , any news on Dak to the future ?

barls · 3 Jan 2009, 8:11 pm

still progressing its just the business is taking a lot of time at the moment. they are actually working on snotty more atm.

Craig Torrens · 3 Jan 2009, 8:46 pm

barls wrote:still progressing its just the business is taking a lot of time at the moment. they are actually working on snotty more atm.

Its been going for nearly 20 years...........I don't think its the business that's slowing the progress !!!!

Joel · 7 Jan 2009, 9:13 pm

Richard was telling me its been over 17 years but he still remembers all the measurements for it