Today (7/04/04) at CBB Racing a V-FORCE suppiled 2007cc motor has made 138.3HP @ 6450 rpm at the wheels in a full street car with 48 IDA webbers with air cleaners and street exhaust AND PUMP FUEL!!! (96 octane)
The first run with the jetting that was done the night before made 133.6HP at the wheels. The fuel curve at 138.3HP is still not perfect but Mike Kirsten said that there still is another 10HP in the jetting.
The motor consists of 78x90.5 stoke bore, 40x37.5 valves, simple bosch electronic ignition. and red plug leads to match the colour of the car as its a street driven car.
Alex
[Edited on 7-4-2004 by Alex Holzl]
OvalGlen ·
Alex , that is Really Great.
did you check out the Torque curve and if you dont mind...
what sort of revs to get that 138 HP.
Cam ·
LOL
He's wrong man. It was my single port 1584 with twin 1040 Holleys 😎
jakriz ·
It has to be 1916cc, surely strokers don't make that sort of power!
Alex Holzl ·
56astro ·
Ahh, 78mm stroke.
The favorite stroke for some, I've heard.
Well done
Kai.A. ·
sounds great!
what car is it in?
kai
p.s. i can't see the dyno sheet 🙁
Craig Torrens ·
good result......so who's car is it ?
If I was Paul I would be pissed off ! and Jak why didn't your engine get these results.??
johny rotten ·
No way ,
if stan didn't do the machine work it can't be true..
must be at least running 94's to make power.:cry:cry:cry:puke:party
Kai.A. ·
c'mon guys, this thread is still in the 'interesting' phase, don't turn it into the usual crap too quick hey......
🙁
kai
johny rotten ·
Craig,
Can you post your picture so we can all see what u look like ??
I think I'm in love...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Craig Torrens ·
Alex, and chance on posting some more info,................or is it a secret!
Is this the 2007cc motor that came with the oval you bought, which the previous owner spent BIG $$$ on ?
[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Craig Torrens]
Craig Torrens ·
I love you to Johny :thumb, but if I post a picture you would have to share me we others.................hehehehe
LOWBUG ·
What sort of comp is it running.
From the graph it would seem that there's still some work to be done, which just means more power.
NICE WORK
Alex Holzl ·
hmmmmmm craigie its a secret 😎
its no 94s mate
Craig Torrens ·
So now I understand why you said "supplied by V force"in your first post Alex, and not "built by V force". The engine was not developed or built by V force, it was the engine that was in the oval you bought, the berg one ?
Any chance of a clearer Dyno picture !!
I'm interested to see the HP at the low to mid range revs. The curve seems to be up and down ????
What cam is it running, looks like a fk89.
Looks like a good drag combo.
[Edited on 7-4-2004 by Craig Torrens]
[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Craig Torrens]
Alex Holzl ·
yeh we will be goin back!! didnt have the right jets
johny rotten ·
its a blurr, ya sure its ok ?
Alex Holzl ·
well its make 111.5hp @ 4900rpm
Alex Holzl ·
i took the pic with my digital cam and had to make it small and now its burry
Cam ·
Alex, e-mail me the full size pic. I'll sort it out 😀
Craig Torrens ·
So the same HP as a Steroids 1916 at 4900rpm. What about the other revs, can you list the HP at each Rev interval.
Alex Holzl ·
go on msn cam
Alex Holzl ·
Peter Leonard ·
does (0b) mean it's a very short clip? 😉
congrats to whoever owns the motor; hope to see it driven at the drags this Saturday!!!!
Alex, could ya wipe some of the vaso of the lens next time you take a photo? blurriness does more for Craig's chiselled looks than it does for a dyno sheet :P
:vader
Alex Holzl ·
lol ok next time...
jakriz ·
such exciting times for the VW industry, especially us tappet heads.
What does this have to do with my motor Craig? I'm estatic with mine.?
As long as u are happy with yours as well then thats all that matters huh?
Jak
Oasis ·
Fantastic Alex. Sounds bloody good too.
AdrianH ·
Awesome, I had a feeling about those strokers - and the black lines that run out of my driveway:cussing
I know a guy with a 2007 turbo midmounted in a trike, seems like a nice engine combo.
BiX ·
I stroker that produces more power than something with 94's?
Good to see!
bigbruvabob ·
Man thats great horsepower, and i think everybody agrees that strokers are great driveable powerfuull engines, but once again what dollars, the $4000-00 odd dollars in diff it would have cost me to get a pro built stroker over my probuilt 1916 will give me probuilt fuel injection and turbo feeding and huge horsepower. As the men say speed costs money how fast do you want to go ?:kiss
Alex Holzl ·
and how fast you end up going depends on how deep ya pockets are...
56astro ·
Close Alex ......
experience and knowledge play a big part.
Doug Sweetman ·
ummmmmm craig, isnt the motor in Alex's oval injected ? I could be wrong....
And even if it is a Berg motor, what are you trying to say that it isnt applies and applies ? Since when was Stan any less of a motor builder than the Bergs ?
Craig Torrens ·
it was injected, now carbies (motor was sold without injection)..............................no probs with comparing dyno charts (one is a street motor , the other looks like a good drag combo, this being my interpretation of the dyno graph)...............................builder????I'm just making sure someone is not try to take credit for the result by deception.
Alex Holzl ·
the motor wasnt built by the bergs it has berg heads...
56astro ·
Is it a V-Force motor or not!
Alex Holzl ·
it was bulit by my dad and his mate before V-FORCE was created...
56astro ·
Was it the motor for Dak-to-the-Future?
Brad ·
man this is getting all very confussing ... We have a motor with some kick ass power but as to who actually built it ??? ANy ideas ?????
My stroker may need some help shortly and I could do with the extra 100 odd ponies this baby has.
So can you please confirm who actually built this motor ?
If it was pre V-Force does that mean I should be talking to Boris ?? or aren't we talking that far back ?
56astro ·
Buggy Brad wrote:man this is getting all very confussing ... We have a motor with some kick ass power but as to who actually built it ??? ANy ideas ?????
So can you please confirm who actually built this motor ?
If it was pre V-Force does that mean I should be talking to Boris ?? or aren't we talking that far back ?
Might have to speak to the McOwner to find out for sure. 😎
Alex Holzl ·
the motor wasnt for dak-to-the-future that was a injected 2.8 that was sold. It was bout 8 years back when it was built by my dad and his mate. its was pre V-FORCE but it wasnt a motor built at vintage veedubb supplies.
V-FORCE: 9743 2137
Brad ·
so what else went into it when your dad built it ? Must be some pretty cool gear to get that sort of HP... makes my 48 hp look preet sad :bounce
Craig Torrens ·
do you have a clearer dyno sheet yet ?
who was the Mate?
Alex Holzl ·
small valve heads and a FK89 cam
Alex Holzl ·
i had to deleted all my stuff on my comp... Its a mate with a beetle and he comes to V-FORCE we call him Supa lol...