OK - got over the price [part-post deleted due to promoting illegal activity]
Do you guys/gals buy them from iTunes [part-post deleted due to promoting illegal activity]
Please help!!!
Barry
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Anthiron ·
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check them out....but beware it is illegal
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Canni. ·
hmmm I got a mp3 player but its a Creative Zen....it comes with software that allows you to rip cd's [part of the post deleted due to promoting illegal conduct] I don't know if the ipod comes with software that does that but its a good way to get mp3s 🙂 I didn't think itunes was available to Australia yet but if it is I wouldn't mind using it...
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so far no Aussies have been sued for stealing music but be aware that it may happen in the future...
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Anthiron ·
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u can get a free cd ripping program called CDEX from www.download.com.....i think they have it.....but its great and is easy to use.
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vwombat ·
Hey Guys - can you do this over U2U please! The forum doesn't
need any stress about this stuff, so keep it kinda quiet. Not that
you have to be too paranoid, but be careful.
Sorry, I just saw a user group get into trouble for recommending
cracks in Germany. I wouldn't want to see a VW forum in trouble
over music.
Bizarre ·
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Bizarre ·
hey VW Wombat
i am asking as an interested parent????
Are you saying that an iPod is only for use as an illeagal software machine or one u have to pay for by only using iTunes?????
Canni. ·
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Anthiron ·
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MickH ·
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andrewh ·
blue74l wrote:hey VW Wombat
i am asking as an interested parent????
Are you saying that an iPod is only for use as an illeagal software machine or one u have to pay for by only using iTunes?????
Not at all. You can make mp3s from your own CDs. I can't say for sure it's not illegal but it seems to be reasonable so I don't worry about it.
Most of my mp3s are copied from my CDs which then just sit in my CD rack coming out only occasionally.
Bizarre ·
can i ask what programme you use for that Andrew???
Anthiron ·
as long as u do not distribute the music then copying music from a cd u have bought is not illegal
BenettonVW ·
vwombat - I appreciate the concern, but my opinion is there is a fair difference between MP3's and serials/ cracks for pirated software.. As I said, I still appreciate the concern.
MP3's are getting harder to find.
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I have had a mp3 player for a few years now, as my folks got one for me in Singapore. Mine is a Samsung Baby Yepp, and at the time - dunno how good it is now, but it was good then, having 64meg and so on..
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Bizarre ·
OK - another question
Do you guys/gals with em still use em???
Or do you just use you CD players????
The iPod i am looking at is like 15Gig!!
Should be able to store a few songs there.
I am thinking of waiting for the iPod Mini which is like 1.5Gig (i think - 1,000 songs instead of 10,000) but the US market has delayed things.
From first reports it doesnt seem to be any cheaper - may be just smaller.
the iPod 15Gig seems good value @ $400.
Anyone have an opinion???
TTFN
Barry
Anthiron ·
400 is fair for a good player
Midlife crisis ·
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zac_smits ·
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helterskelter400 ·
i use cdex (get it from download.com) to rip my cds.
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15gig in a portable player. wow.
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BenettonVW ·
Yeah, sounds fantastic for $400.
The best thing to do about all this downloading and stuff is do what I do mate.. Suck it and see..
Of course, I only speak for myself and it is my opinion.
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MickH ·
The Napster player has a 20 gig hard drive and is around the same price. There should be a review on CNET.com somewhere.......
Anyone seen or know where i could look at a Rio Karma????
they seem interesting (read cheap.... sorry - good value!)
Cruzin in a Golf ·
i have been using audiograbber and audiocatalyst to do the ripping, and i only rip my own cds so i can play them on my computer without having to change cds etc...i used to download mp3s but i got rid of them conscience got the better of me, and i dont want to get caught with it all...there will law suits soon i am sure.
Canni. ·
I wouldn't wait for the ipod mini...seems you get less for more money...ur basically just paying for the small size...and don't listen to the advertising...don't take your hard disk mp3 player jogging or any rough activities like skiing...
you might want to check out the Creative players for good value... (well mine was when I got it)
And yeah they are worth it...I use mine all the time now (its a 20GIG ) ...its so good not to have to keep changing cd's...and the battery life is far better than my cd player
BenettonVW ·
I think you'll find the Napster one only works for US residents only.. At least the new Napster program is US only. I am thinking they work hand in hand, but maybe not.
warb ·
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andrewh ·
blue74l
Sorry about the delay in replying. A couple of people have suggested ripping programs. The one I use is dbPowerAmp music converter (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/). It works quite reliably but is probably less intuitive than some of the others mentioned since you need to grab a second program which will do the CD input. It's completely free and supports a large number of formats.
As for the iPod mini, it's 4 gig and can be bought from the Apple site in the US for only $50 less than the 15 gig iPod. If you knew you'd never go over 4 gig, it might be worth it, but I'd go for the full iPod just to give room to expand. Australian pricing might be different though.
Yeah, I know, cracks and music - different deal. I just used to be Radio/TV/Music industry, and you wont find an industry with so many arseholes anywhere. Just thinking about the future and looking over my shoulder.
Seems like you're getting some pretty good tips tho'.
Maybe I'll have to get a new HD and start filling up on new gear again myself.
BenettonVW ·
I dunno.. I used to sell cars.. :P
Bizarre ·
Every now and agian you do a post and get HEAPS of information.
This is one of those posts
:kiss
Adam_C ·
Used to sell cars jim? what are yuou doing now?
baybuscamperkid ·
if u want leagal online stuff try some bands websites, mp3.com and mp3.com.au all endorsed by the bands
mattie ·
the best ripping program is called 'freerip' and you can get it from cnet you can choose the size that your music is ripped at i once got 36 songs on a creative 32meg mp3 player!!
BenettonVW ·
Employment Consultant..With the Salvation Army Employment Plus.. God bless my soul.. 😀
ducky ·
As the law stands if you own the copy of the song on a bought/paid for cd you are alllowed to turn this into MP3 Format. If you 'rip' it from another source and cannot prove you paid $ for a copy of it you are breaking the copyright laws. ( am an entertainer and understand copyright laws when it comes to music ) Did you know when you play a music source eg: cd/radio at work so that others can hear it say customers and you are not apaying fees to APRA you are also breaking copyright.
vanderaj ·
In Australia, until the free trade laws come into effect, you are currently allowed to make copies of CDs you own for your own personal use. This is based upon the VCR time shifting lawsuit from the early 80's. Don't expect this situation to last - if you want to retain this implied right, you MUST fight the free trade agreement now. Ring your pollies and give them hell... after reading the relevant section of the FTA.
Now to what's currently illegal, and always has been:
You are not allowed to use, distribute, download, or copy works that you do not own unless specifically granted those rights by the copyright holder. Any advice to the contrary is just ignorant of the copyright act, and places you in jeopardy of prosecution.
If you can afford an iPod, you can afford to buy the CDs. I don't see why people feel it's okay to pay a hardware manufacturer, but not pay the people who write and make the music. It's pure theft in my books.
Section 101 - what constitutes infringing acts
Section 115 - how your attitudes reflect remedies (ie flagrency of the act)
Section 116 - remedies which may be sought by a copyright holder
There are other sections worth reading. Short story is:
- making a copy available to anyone else besides you is illegal
- obtaining a copy from anyone else but the copyright holder is illegal
In the US, people who have been caught downloading infringing copies of music usually end up settling for about $2000-$15,000 USD with the RIAA (even if not guilty) as it costs millions to go through a full court case in the US.