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Tie rod question

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Secoh 路

I bent the long (PS) tie rod on my baja today jumping dunes on Stockton (oops)! I have a front end from a superbug. My baja is a ball joint '68. Are they the same tie rods?

Otherwise I'm going to have to get another one, if someone has one lying around 馃檨

68AutoBug 路

Do You mean the tie rods are from a super beetle...??

as you can't have a front end from a super, as they bolt to the inner guards NOT the chassis....

they have a different steering box set up ...

My Book shows the Supers having two equal length tie rods that is attached to a centre tie rod...... that is attached to the steering box...

Torsion Bar beetles have a short tie rod on the Drivers side and a Long tie rod on the Passengers side.. these are attached to the pittman arm of the steering Box, which is attached to the torsion bar tubes... with the steering damper also attached to the long tie rod end...

Lee

Secoh 路

FWIW I actually DO have a super front end, it's the front half of a pan cut off with a gas-axe. :P

I also have the struts and steering box and arms sitting on the ground still all connected in a big pile from said pan. However it's buried under 2 ton of assorted crap and I decided it was easier to ask if the passenger side tie rod was the same as the passenger tie rod from my '68 which is very bent.

vw54 路

Easy way to find out is run the tape measure over them both. I am pretty sure the tie rod ends are the same taper.

Secoh 路

the tie rod ends are fine, it's the actual arm i'm worried about.

yeah, no answers forthcoming looks like I'm digging it out from under all the junk to measure it 馃檨

1303Steve 路

Hi

The arms are diffrent lenght between a super and beam front end. When I had a rally car we used to cutup old sway bars and slide them down the inside of the tubes to give them a little bit of extra strenght.

1302Steve

Secoh 路

Thanks Steve. That's a durned good idea!

battybat 路

Lee

you are a mine of useful pictures!

I had put up a post cos I didn't know beetles have steering dampers, and then I find you've posted a pic of the front end from above somewhere else

have you got a website with them all on?

cheers

terry

BiX 路

yep different tie rods the super are equal length, and have a drag link.

Secoh 路

I took it off tonite and bashed it flat, so it's back in action 馃榾 yeah yeah, it's weakened now but it'll get replaced with no urgency now at least/