The better half reckons her 1600 beetle does 85mph (on a privately owned, no speed limit German autobahn north of Wollongong) Is that good?
What can a stock (or silly) beetle wind out to before either meltdown or terrifying high speed handling occurs?
I guess spending money on handling comes into it as much as power, but is it possible to have a performance car?
barls ·
i got my 1700 big bore up to 140Km before backing off due to winds
57kombi ·
As fast as the tow truck carrying it can go.
Cheers
Dave
57kombi ·
Whats the differance between pushing a beetle and putting your hands up Kylie Minogues top.
You feel more of a tit pushing a beetle.
Cheers
Dave
E ·
i can get my 1600 up to 140, but its mainly due to the kads. My old 1600 didnt fell comfortable pusing past 100, but that was a semi-auto and didnt have dual kads.
pete wood ·
barls wrote:i got my 1700 big bore up to 140Km before backing off due to winds
mmm...got my 67' with a 1640 up to 140km/h too, then she started to feel real floaty in the tail so I back right off.
something about the air clinging to the curved shape and it lifts the car up at high speed. fluid dynamics and all that. An old guy told me about it once. you put the convex side of the spoon right near running stream of water and the edge of the stream of water gently pulls it sideways right into the main stream. got an italian name, the 'canneloni' or 'luigi' effect or something.
so over 100mph you need a rear wing of some sort. that's what they found racing beetles at bonneville,
but please don't hear me telling people to put awful whaletails on their cars? :cussing
:puke
barls ·
hey peter i only say 1700 big bore cause i dont know if it was a 1640 or 1680 due to the pistons being left over from when he was young and stupid
pete wood ·
barls wrote:hey peter i only say 1700 big bore cause i dont know if it was a 1640 or 1680 due to the pistons being left over from when he was young and stupid
that's cool, I just meant I had a similar experience, I don't mind if you have a 2.8L :P
pete wood ·
oh BTW, I've had my buggy (a 2.5l) up to 80mph. that was no where near the top of 3rd gear and it felt even worse than the beetle, the whole thing started to shake. 🙁
so I spose I'll take it easy, beside you nearly get blown out of the car :o
[Edited on 17-11-2004 by pete wood]
BiX ·
160km/hr on the dot, at 5000rpm on the dot. thats in a L bug with a 1776cc, twin dells, mild cam etc. It produces about 70hp at the rear wheels (assume about 100hp at the fly wheel), std gb and 205/60r15 and lowred.
I have an old book (70's) that has a graph of Hp vs speed for a beetle, eg to get x mph you require y hp at the engine. its a rough guide.
i think 100mph requires rougly 100hp, which is right for my car.
BiX ·
and on the track i got to about 130km/r in 3rd, that was today :thumb and wasn;t looking for 4th :blush
penguin ·
Umm, does downhill on the Hume count? if so I managed to get a stock 1600 to 100mph, well I saw 160kmph touched by the needle anyways. Scared the b:jesus out of myself doing it. was light as crap and had to slow down gently to stay on the road.
zac_smits ·
i don't have a beetle..i have a golf...
but it's just on the dark side of 200....
zac_smits ·
oh..i haven't tried with the 64 type 3..but dad says when the speedo stops at 90...the car doesn't 😀😀😀
[Edited on 17-11-2004 by zac_smits]
winerot ·
about 4 mths ago on hwy up here
speedo read 85mph revs read 4000
kombi was vibrating a little, i was
vibrating a lot so backed off & vowed
not to do a silly thing like that again
vw54 ·
the differance between pushing a beetle and putting your hands up Kylie Minogues
I would like to shove my hand down her top while holding the other end .... Rnt i a rude boy
My VW goes as fast as the speed limit will let it
silver ·
I have had my splitty up to 80mph with pedal left ..doesn't handle very well at that speed though..there is no where to test how fast it will go
nbturbo ·
One of my Beetles with the 1800cc in it does just over 200kph-Saturday week it's booked in to get a new brain,which is supposed to let it do 240kph. Can't wait to see if can scare me.
zac_smits ·
^^^^^^^
holy shit!!!
oh and to the kylie thing...she'd only come up to my below my chin...she's only 5ft tall...
i'd have to be sitting down or something :P
crazyfiggi ·
My 62 single cab with irs and an L bug box will do 80mph at 3600rpm all day long and thats with a stock 1600, when my 2007cc stroker goes in i hate to think how fast it will go!
Alex.
bertie_beetle ·
someone on this site once made a joke about their VW being able to do 0-100 km/h in just 3 seconds.................vertically, off a clifff. heheheheheheehehhehehehehehehe.............i thought it was funny:repuke
zac_smits ·
hahaha
now that's a good joke!
Alex Holzl ·
I did 180ks down oran park straight with no whale tail but was a little hairy into the corner at the end but car wasnt setup then, and did 205ks down eastern creek with the whale tail and appart from just having to concentrate it was all sweet!
Did anyone know thats in the second world war the germans made 3 bombs, the V1, V2 and the VW.... hahahha
zac_smits ·
^^^
they're all coming out of the woodwork today!!
type3kid ·
if a hill advantage does count i got a twin port 1600 type 3 square to about 145 but f#$k it was scary, its as was starting to get all over the place. i doubt i'd have gotten there without the hill, and yes, it was a big one
james(DNVK) ·
My freind ben had his oval with a 2.8l type 4 motor on a porsche 5 speed maxed out in 4TH at 135 mp/h. YES MP/H. That is bloody fast.
Also done on a privately owned no speed limit freeway link road.😀
Alex Holzl ·
WOW!!! Many years ago my dad with his oval did 140 MPH at 6600 rpm with a 2L motor. Ummm yeh on one of those private road thingy me bobs :duh
Freddie Fender ·
Got a stock 1300 lowered with 14's to 75mph down Richmond rd. Didn't feel real good at this speed but it will handle 65mph no worries at all. I thought it was bloody impressive of the old girl to go that fast. Not an experience I want to do again in a hurry.
Beetle cruise - Alfa for fast...
james(DNVK) ·
I think it might take off if he ever gets it into 5TH gear 😀😀😀
VWCOOL ·
Seen 6200rpm in 4th on a 4.1 diff and fatties - I think that's 210km/h. Gentle downhill. 5800rpm on the flat. Fast e-fukken-nuff....
57kombi ·
Well, Ive just been for a drive in the bus and got 80km in third and it was very comfortable, loads left.
so will easy do 120km, thats fast enough for me in a 50 year old commercial vehicle with unassisted drum brakes.
By the way,
Its not how fast you get there, but how cool you look !!!!
Cheers
Dave
twoguns ·
ah hahahahaha... once apon a time i was out fishing and i caught a fish thiiiiissss big.
*standing steady with arms stretched outwards grinning* 😀
57kombi ·
For once I'm not taking the piss, Its a 1600tp, 1500 box , straight axle conversion.Sorry I should have said it will easy do 120km in 4th.
And It was raining, nah nah nah nah nah.
See I've got a splitty and I'm not afraid to use it!!!!!!
Cheers
Dave
[Edited on 18-11-2004 by 57kombi]
[Edited on 18-11-2004 by 57kombi]
sax ·
twoguns wrote:ah hahahahaha... once apon a time i was out fishing and i caught a fish thiiiiissss big.
*standing steady with arms stretched outwards grinning* 😀
twoguns ·
not you dave.... ive had my splitty up to 150, so i believe you. i jsut found it funny reading this thread. its like your at the pub, and one bloke tells a story which then prompts the next and so on. yet each story invariably ends up greater than the one before...
hahahahaha!
57kombi ·
Right, I get it.
By the way, i forgot to tell you , I had the hand brake on at the time!!!!
Cheers
Dave
twoguns ·
now ya talking... and remember it was full with seven mates all half tanked, as they were all sipping on the wine taken from one of the 15 cases you were also carrying back, after your day trip to the winery... :duh
nbturbo ·
And I bet you forgot to tell them about the car trailer on the back with another Kombi on it, loaded up with spare motors and transmissions
wezley ·
i once broke the speed of light in my kombi - but that was back in the sixties... i think..
Flying VW ·
I've had both of my 1600 Beetles of the Clock I think that's 90 miles from memory (about 145 Ks)
I've had my wifes Golf at 210 Ks I was going for 220 Ks but ran out of road.
And I've had my XR8 up to 230 Ks.
But do you what I like the most ?
I knew a Bloke once who would tell me he did something like 245 Ks in his Old VC Commodoore, but his speedo only went to 200 Ks.
:duh So how did he know that.
Geeee I laughed at him.
twoguns ·
try this then....
me and the lady in audi A3 on the autobarn in germany a few years back... bit dissappointed as i expected a bit more, and having done 270 on a bike, it didnt seem as exhilirating as i thought.
twoguns ·
although having one hand ont he wheel the other on the camera, while driving at a hugh speed on what feels likethe wrong side of the road, and trying to focus some attention to the display on the camera...... made it a bit more fun.
sax ·
Speaking of VC commies, I once did Appin to Wollongong (about 40km of twisty bits) in 20 minutes in a 5 litre VC.
Who said you need to go Euro to go fast:repuke
MUD BASHING ANYONE ?? ·
I had my kombi wound out to 155kph on the way back from valla last year right beside my mate in his splity really scary but fun and i had the baja out to 85 mph on my spedo which is way out due to 215/75s on the front and that was the only time i really was shiting myself, that speed is not good with over a foot of ground clearance and mud terrains
ancientbugger ·
Our old kombi with standard 1800 but in v.good condition used to sit happily on 130kph until my wife discovered that it had retread tyres at the back. Tread comes off grabs mudflap rips upwards tearing the back upwards and throwing the battery all over the engine! Used to have a standard 1300 beetle (at the time only a couple of years old) but sat on 80mph on the motorway, and that was as standard so nobody had been pulling things apart or altering anything.......I did all that later:duh
Special Air Service ·
72 standard beetle with box stock 1300 ---83.76543mph
hypo-vw ·
have had my 76 v6 kombi to approx 180kph ( needle stopped on the wrong side of the zero marker . didn't handle too well at that speed .
had my 69 IRS rotary beetle to 195kph @ 9500rpm in 3rd gear then shifted to 4th and backed off at 220kph . handled worse than the kombi .
had the 62 hillclimb beetle to 165kph @ 7600rpm in 4th gear uphill on a narrow winding track with a 2.9 injected type-4 engine . heaps of fun and handled great!!
took the dual-cab for a squirt last week and got to 160kph with a 2.5 type-4 big valve weber engine . p*ssed off the japcrap I destroyed .
BLUE_62 ·
Hey,
My beetle is a stockie 1300 bored to 1600, running a standard carby and nothing special. I had it to just over 85mph and had a little left. Was in hot pursuit by a new yellow beetle and i cant help but get the funny feeling the new beetle was in 5th and cruisin. :duh
But yeah. We'll say it maxes @ 90mph so that 145km/h.
Not bad for a stocker i thought. Dunno what revs. No tacho. Enough to make u hear the motor over wind and road noise thou. 😎
Starbug ·
my 1600 has been driven at 140km/h. im sure it could have gone faster but i didnt want to try.
barls ·
i think i only need a 2.1L t4
Anthiron ·
once and once only on a windless day i took my baja to 90 mile/hr thats max on the speedo however ive got smaller profile front wheels and tires on atm so it was prolly about 130kms/hour still not too bad. i found it was fine while i was accellerating but had to back off really slowly or it wanted to jump around. never will do it again and i hate to think of what would have happend had a bullet of wind hit the car.
i generally cruise at 70-75 m/ph which is a little slower than standard highway traffic but i dont mind.
cant wait to get the 2 litre into i though.....gonna have to get a ball joint front end though i think.
Che Castro ·
My stock '63 with a 1600 SP has been up to about 120km/h and it had a fair bit more in it. It just felt pretty scary at that speed, swing axle on the rear, K&L on the front, all with little to no alignment! bit hairy. specially when it rains
Anthiron ·
yeah i forgot to mention 62 pan with swing axle link pin 1600 single port
Menangler ·
My '64 split ute with canvas canopy on its way to "bump stop".
Of cause on a private road, at 6.00am and full of swap meet stuff 2 weekends ago!
[Edited on 19-11-2004 by Dave Becker]
twoguns ·
so how many have speedo shots, then....
twoguns ·
following your lead dave..... go the splittas!!!! :bounce
57kombi ·
O.K. then,
I dont normally post pics of my bus!!!
But I will this time,
Speedo says 140 so it must do that.
Cheers
Dave
sax ·
Any verifying speedo shots must be accompanied by a stat dec stating the photo was not taken with the car parked in the garage!
No tacho equals extra verification.
Menangler ·
Darn, found me out, spun mine up on the cordless drill.
BLUE_62 ·
Tried mine out earlier tonight again too see if i could improve on an earlier attempt. The speedo was wavering past the 90mph almost on the ignition light so that would be pretty close to 100mph i would guess. I had my camera with me but there was no way i was takin hands off the wheel. It needs an alignment pretty bad and its running re-treads at the minute while my new tyres are coming and rims are getting powdercoated 😎
When its all back together i'll have another crack and see if i can get a snap shot. :thumb
twoguns ·
hey dave... that one looks stationary...
i got a second to verify the first.... happens very often. will have to include a tacho shot, hey....
GO THE SPLITTAs!!!!
Flying VW ·
twoguns wrote:try this then....
me and the lady in audi A3 on the autobarn in germany a few years back... bit dissappointed as i expected a bit more,
Yeah I couldn't get the Golf past 210 it must be all they have
zac_smits ·
dad and i have gotten our family's 97 golf past 210....(not that mum would know that....)
twoguns ·
yeah its only just. 6200rev red line (it wont do much past that) and that is around the 220 mark. was all i could get. if only they had the turbo available. mind you this car had ony been released two weeks b4, and the one i had had a mere 147klms on it when i got it.
Flying VW ·
Not a VW, My XR8 😉
Flying VW ·
:thumb
This is a very recent shot, 😉
I felt a bit fast and furious after the Ford versus Holden show.
[Edited on 19-11-2004 by Flying VW]
BLUE_62 ·
Nothing wrong with fast and furious driving.
As long as an officer aint doing the same thing to catch you!
Nows a good time to mention i have done my licence twice. :duh
However aint been caught for anything over the past 2 years. Touch wood.
zac_smits ·
twoguns wrote:yeah its only just. 6200rev red line (it wont do much past that) and that is around the 220 mark. was all i could get. if only they had the turbo available. mind you this car had ony been released two weeks b4, and the one i had had a mere 147klms on it when i got it.
mm well ours had a good 20000ks on it..and was only at 3500in 5th. so i think we could've gotten a fair bit more from it.
Freddie Fender ·
So I guess I need to get the 15's back on the Beetle to break the 70mph factor in the stock 1300 swing axle! Anyone done anything with 14's versus 15'?
Freddie Fender ·
Come to think of it the scariest drive I have done was in a Mini Cooper at 120mp +. Needle was in the middle of the Fuel gauge past the 120mph mark. Speed this close to the ground in a go kart is rather exhilirating! Only taken the Alfa to 200Kph before my conscience got to me and the worry about the las with a blue light on the top of the car started to trouble me.... Actually, the Alfa felt no different at 200 than it does at 100.......if anything it sat on the road even more snugly.
[Edited on 20-11-2004 by Freddie Fender]
[Edited on 20-11-2004 by Freddie Fender]
57kombi ·
Cant you see in my pic, The needle went all the way round and even bounced over the stop,
Thats why it looks as though it is stationary.
Ha Ha Ha
Cheers
Dave
Flying VW ·
The way I look at it is, at 140 your already in trouble but 240 they might not catch ya.
A Cop car has the same Specs as a XR8, and I've got a head start.
:bounce
zac_smits ·
haha well that's one way to look at it.
though i could imagine the cops being pretty pissed at losing to a vw.
Dave R32 ·
180kmh in my Passat 1.8t, I backed off as the rear was moving around a lot.
just over 200 in my R32, I backed off as I had run out of road.
zac_smits ·
i want an R32 damnit!! they are nice cars...
meant to be limited to 155mph.. so that's...248kms i think...
i'd think the R32 had a little bit left in her ^^^^
Flying VW ·
My XR8 goes as smooth at 240 as it does at 100K's , the Car Harmonics are perfect it has a Massive Alloy Tail shaft.
If the dotted white lines hadn't become one long line, I wouldn't even know I was going that fast.
Al Walker ·
I've had my R32 up to 230km on the South East Freeway very early one morning when it was totally empty, thats with chip and CAI. Marti will confirm it as she was in the passenger seat watching the speedo for me. The car still had a lot of pedal and revs left in it.
The chip removes the speed limiter and up's the rev limiter to 7200rpm.
Track day coming up on Sunday but i doubt the straight will be long enough to find out top speed. Have to take it to a track with a long enough straight or a decent airstrip or the NT sometime to really give it a run.
Cheers Al
62deluxe ·
My 59 will do 65 MPH!!!
Woo Hooo:thumb
pete wood ·
isn't this thread about VWs?
Flying VW wrote:My XR8 goes as smooth at 240 as it does at 100K's , the Car Harmonics are perfect it has a Massive Alloy Tail shaft.
If the dotted white lines hadn't become one long line, I wouldn't even know I was going that fast.
Flying VW ·
pete wood wrote:isn't this thread about VWs?
Flying VW wrote:My XR8 goes as smooth at 240 as it does at 100K's , the Car Harmonics are perfect it has a Massive Alloy Tail shaft.
If the dotted white lines hadn't become one long line, I wouldn't even know I was going that fast.
Well...... I'm SORRY for having more then one interest in life.
Do you want to hear how fast my Truck goes? 135 k/p/h.
About as fast as an Air Cooled Beetle.
pete wood ·
no offence Flying VW,
it's just that I can hear about standard production cars doing mental speeds anywhere. I am just a bit more interested in hearing about what VWs are capable of...that's all.
I could buy any number of non-VW cars and make them do 200plus km/h. What i want to know is what your humble baja is capable of? Cool? 😎
Flying VW ·
Cool.. :thumb\
I've had both of them past 90 miles = = = 145 K/P/H.
twoguns ·
here ya go.... tacho and speed. hard on the needle. feels like it wants more but i am worried about braking the speedo again. (thanks to VVDS for the last fix)
yeah yeah private road, of course :P
frenzix ·
wes, what are you running in that thing?
twoguns ·
CBB built 1776, ported heads, twin kads.
zac_smits ·
haha i love it how nearly ever beetle speedo shot i have seen..i s way past the end of the speedo...
goes to show that vw's weren't revealing all their tricks...
