I'm gunna create a vw mag... but here's what i need from you first off...
Do you want it in softcopy (i.e. on the net on a webpage) for no cost whatsoever....
OR
do you want a hardcopy mag to be sent out... obviously not gunna be free... EDIT::: just to make it clear, the mag won't be the print quality of other mags, may not even be colour until i can organise something - a deal and subscriptions etc... so keep that in mind when voting.. thanks 馃檪
IT"S EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER, I"M NOT DOING BOTH TO CATER FOR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.... not yet anyways 馃槈
MORE POLLS AND QUESTIONS TO COME.... please don't reply, just vote... if you have something you want to ad, email me.
Thanks a bunch.
i will let the poll go for a week or so, so get your votes in and be heard! tell everyone! :kiss
P.S: Could someone lock this thread up the top of the general forum just for a while.. would really appreciate it.. i need as much feedback as possible. Thanks.
[Edited on 22-1-2003 by vdub2c]
[Edited on 22-1-2003 by vdub2c]
Pat 路
I think a net zine is not a bad idea, as this will also broaden your audience. Doesn't have to be free, just reasonably priced. If you want to see a net zine done well check out www.autospeed.com
HotRodMatt 路
I would be happy to do photography for you....
I can photoshop the image to suit print, even dodgy b&w or super cheap p/copy or for the web.
Buggy Boyz 路
I reckon you build a website one and then approach sponsors when you have a proven product. They will happily pay for advertisements. Then it will fund itself. If you try and bank role a print version you will produce a shit quality product and it will make it hard to get circulation as well as sponsorship.
If you like we can setup [url=http://]magazine.aussieveedubbers.com [/url]as the site and you can go for broke.
That way it ain't costing a damn thing and people will see the VW community is behind it.
The_Bronze. 路
I don't care how you get it to me, just let me perv at some 1A rides!
You need a Dubbo based reporter - have camera, can travel.
vanderaj 路
I don't know what the other guys (Brad and Jim in particular) think but that sort of content would be great as a news / articles portal for this site, particularly if it was done for fun and essentially free.
Look at this site for what I consider to be a well run amateur/professional site:
They don't pay a lot and their "Staff" seem to be a few people who edit relatively high quality articles with a lot of community input.
Andrew
lowdown 路
autospeed.com's not really an amatuer site, the editor julian was the first editor for zoom magazine and has been around in the business for a long time, but the site is fantastic and an obtainable goal i think. go for it vdub2c, i say run the website get a few sponsors and then maybe if viable have them pay for the print-run????
London Bugger 路
Great would be good to see some veedub stuff from Oz, As i said befor ei would be happy to help in anyway.
Rob.
mattie182 路
i following suit and saying internet then a hard copy........... you could use aussieveedubbers to "report" for you like the bronze from around australia
matt
vdub2c 路
thanks for all the support. at the moment i'll just guage some responses from various questions and then go gung ho in making it happen, for now it will be quaterly - hopefully, or as new things ome in it will get posted... no comments on this yet though, i will put up a poll about it soon - one thing at a time 馃檪
Brad - magazine.aussieveedubbers.com sounds great - will keep you posted.
as for the rest of you, why not take some shots of your car, team the shots up with a history of the beast, and a bit about it plus background and send it on through.
your car doesn't have to be A1 as they are all aussie rides... but clean it up the best you can, we wanna show the world that aussie vee dubbers are real contenders 馃檪
i'll keep you all posted thanks for the input...
Yianni.
BTW: thanks for locking in the poll, much appreciated.
The_Bronze. 路
Clean up the Dog-O-War. I washed it the other afternoon and the wife said when I came in, "Don't forget you where gonna wash the Baja this arvo". The paints that old and the repairs that rough it's ratlook at its best!
I'd have to roll it in a mix of POR15 and fish oil if I had plans of giving it to my boys.
I reckon for your mag I'd just get some shot of ot sillouetted against the moon on top of a sand dune. Thats about the best shot I can think of for it.
kombi_kid 路
im happy to report about shows with cars if thats kool!!!
cheers
rhys
penguin 路
If I can help, I'll try (I'm very trying :P)
Penguin
Mad Manx 路
Well I can cover the Bundaberg area for you- I run a Photo Minilab so digital imaging is no problem for me:thumb
Buggy Boyz 路
Before we get to carried away lets see some articles ???
I have offered before and will again, send to me I will post em on the web and the rest will be built around it. Since making this offer almost a year and hlaf ago I have received 1 yes one article.... mmmmm I know Steve aka Carvet got the same amount when he asked.
I reckon you wait and see if you get anything worth publishing. Say when I get 10 articles I will start. Until then all these people saying I will help and send stuff ain't worth much.
I go through the same heart ache with teh Manx Mania Downunder. The only way I get articles is to take my own pictures and write the articles myself.
I am not trying to be negative but lets see some of these guys put their articles where there text is and go from there.
vdub2c 路
Buggy Boyz wrote:I am not trying to be negative but lets see some of these guys put their articles where there text is and go from there.
Good call 馃榾
I'll be at the next clubvw meeting... so watch out, i'll be hassling everyone! 馃槈
matara 路
I like the idea of a web version, but occasionally I like to be able to throw something in a bag and read it on the road etc.
Good on ya!
Steve
vdub2c 路
matara wrote:I like the idea of a web version, but occasionally I like to be able to throw something in a bag and read it on the road etc.
Good on ya!
Steve
hance a printable version 馃檪 quality is as good as your printer though.. but to read, very do-able.
baybuscamperkid 路
id be happy to give a helping hand in any way possible
Buggy Boyz 路
Here is a draft Wes wrote about 12 mths ago now but it may give others n idea.
Baja Wes 路
馃榾 needs a bit of updating now huh 馃榾
Maybe a follow up article in the same mag :puke
Golde60 路
woo hoo,
finally some more aussie bugnography for me to read.
the old aussie mags that i have read 20-30 times are getting a little worn out馃檪
not sick of them yet tho馃榾
much better than OS stuff, cos i know the cars/mechanics/people/places sometimes, and it is promoting the aussie industry.
i reckon its an awesome idea. e-zine makes more sense to me at this stage, but once its up and running, the sky's the limit:party
The_Bronze. 路
I was on the road a bit yesterday and drove past a printers near the back of our home. I think a printed version would be good but not feasable. What I suggest is that you support a 12month e-zine updating it with a new edition every 2 months or 1 month time allowing. After a 9 month period start putting out expressions of interest for #1 which would be a printed version of the first 12 months of articles. This would develop a good reader base and maintain interest and motivation in the buyer to support the E-zine development. Secondly it would archive all the material collected over that year and allow the man on the toilet to re-read the years articles over the following year.
Problems - #1 you would have to make it order only and then add say 10 or 15% to keep as stock for backsales, stalls, show sales and E-zine promotions like competitions in the second year. #2 You would need to find a committed editor to put together 12 months of articles / photos (and mabey adds to keep the cost down) which would be an triumphant effort and nobody would achieve it for no pay. #3 and would of course a limited edition with a relatively small reader base (hopefully not) with poastage would make it not a cheap print so the articles and pics would have to be good because the cost could be higher than the usual . If you want people to support it the following year it will need to be a reasonable read. VW owner may not have a lot of things, but they do have a good memory for how much thing cost and was it worth it.
Jamox 路
Well, there are 626 members of this forum. Say if ~75% of those are actually still participating and interested, and it is not just a 'phase'; that means there would around 450 people wo would actively read and support the internet version. Conservatively.
Then, say that 200-300 of us are real die-hard enthusiasts. Most probably, you could bet on 200 subscriptions for the magazine even if it was overpriced but still within reason. Who knows how many others would go for the hardcopy? But I think that that is the whole attraction of this forum because it isfree. So it is hard to try and predict sales for the print version. But there would definately be more interest in the internet one. Therefore I agree it would be best to start with the e-zine and go from there.
That is probably about my 20 cents worth. For 5 cents more I will say this:
As far as the articles and write-ups go, I think that it will depend on the focus of the magazine itself. If it is quite technical, your average Jamox isn't really going to be able to contribute stuff like Brad, Wes, or the other gurus would be able to. If it is just asking for write-ups on our bugs, their stories, or something like that; I would also contribute when I get some bloody photos happening. I just think you need to specify the type of article and then it would be much easier to help by sending one in.:thumb (Also, that demonstration article by Wes isn't loading for me so I can't see what type of article you are after 馃檨 )
Sorry for such drawn-out drabble馃榾
humpty 路
I'm in the process of writing some articles for my web site....but I could "pad" them out for a web based zine...No problem....I use to work as a photographer years ago & I'm a graphic designer with over 15 years experience....So I could put something together.....Stories I'm working on are as follows.....
鈥lammed Ivory/Matt Black 66 splitty Micro.
鈥uper Hot L Bug, EATON supercharge 2.1 wasserboxer, 4 wheel (WILWOOD) disc brakes
鈥J20T powered 69 Notch
鈥ow Rider/Low Budget 64 Bug
鈥VXVanagon conversion
鈥ld School supercharged 1835 Drag Bug
鈥ldest (1947 Standard) registered Bug in Oz
That work for you?
The_Bronze. 路
I would say about 20% actually regulary contribute - Have a look through the members list and check out the pages and pages of people who have signed up and haven't even posted once.
I know / knew of people back in Newcastle who just signed up in case a good buy ended up in Buy/Swap/Sell and the didn't want to miss out on first dibbs and still haven't posted. Most people choose to only read and thats fine. With a definate lack of VW mags on the market who could blame them. Not everybody is social and thats cool.
The good thing about an E-zine is yes it free and it can be what ever we (collectively) want it to be under the guidance of those who are doing all the work. Do more work = have more say in what goes in. It the same as saying "write nothing - then you'll get nothing published".
It wouldn't be hard to do the same as were doing with the Stickers and T-shirts and say "OK - Magprint is in two months, Who wants one? Send you subscription here. It will include the below mentioned articles and more." Too easy. Dosen't matter how many buy one - those that do will certianly recieve a very limited edition indeed of 20 or 2000.
Who cares, lets just get it happening or else it will fizzle and nothing will happen other than talk. I can contribute during school holidays and am willing do what I can here. Times my small committment by 20 odd member and we have a regular Mag - Leave it all up to one person and you will have a mag for a while until they can't do it any more. Not because their not dedicated. I'm sure Jim is as dedicated to the forum as ever but circumstance change and everything below those priorities must change with them. It a fact of life.
Support each other and it will happen and stay.
Buggy Boyz 路
Here we go again, all the promises under the sun, when are you guys gunna start writting articles ????
mmmmm getting pretty quite in here.
I'll tell you what when I get 10 articles e-mailed to me I will build a website for them at magazine.aussieveedubbers.com and we can go from there.
I am willing to bet I will not be writting html any time soon.
3- Bronzes - Take no prisioners even in reverse Dog-O-War 71Baja in Sh!t thin Orange!
Set me a deadline boss!
Buggy Boyz 路
There you go... I would like pictures at say 640 x 480 and no more than 72DPI. We will need better ones if we decide to print.
I reckon 2 pages would be good.
The_Bronze. 路
If I have to do it so do you - 01 Feb 03.
:bounce Shame I can't get an AVD shirt in time for the shots! :bounce
Need to find a decent shot location now.
[Edited on 27-1-2003 by The_Bronze.]
Buggy Boyz 路
The_Bronze. wrote:If I have to do it so do you - 01 Feb 03.
[Edited on 27-1-2003 by The_Bronze.]
My problem is deciding which article I feel like putting up there.
Still only at 4 articles though.... aint gunna happen ......
vdub2c 路
so brad, are you saying you wanna do the online mag now?
The_Bronze. 路
I don't care who I send it to just as long as somthing starts and continues. Sort it out between your selves who floats it. In the meantime lets get a bank of articles behind us and then we have somthing to start with. A poll is fine but there is no effort involved - seeing how many stories come in will be a true gague of if people are committed to seeing a E-zine or not.
I reckon it will be a bit like how Rove started - Little by little he got some cred and then people started tuning in and celebs started joining in. Mine will be the token sh!tbox people can laugh at until you can get some cred.
Yanni you want the job you've got it brother - it's your thread. Talk it over with Brad about about working it together. I think Brad's point is that it's generally just piss and wind and no Storm because people want to read it but don't want (or are too busy to) help build it.
fullnoise 路
Great idea. However it will eat up a lot of somebodys time. I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee. Throw a few bucks at regular contributors to get them off their backsides and write something.
I am happy to voluneer Jak as a regualr contributor. He writes about the Porsche Club supersprints we do. His articles go in Zeitschrift, Club Veedub's magazine.
Speak to Steve Carter, he puts Zeitschrift together, ask how much time it takes him and what it's like getting content. He's been doing it for years.
That's my 2 cents. I'll give a few more cents if you need the magazine art directed.
CYA, CT:bounce:cry:cussing
Buggy Boyz 路
Don't get me wrong here, BUT I am keen as hell to have nothing to do with the setup and running of the magazine. I will happily sponsor it with the providing of webspace if needed.
I said what I said cause I have been here many times before.,, I really want to see some of these people put fingures to keyboards and actually do something instead of saying yeah yeah I will help but nothing ever eventuating...
I could not volunteer your time but I can mine and if I get 10 articles I am happy to kick it along for all to see. But that ain't gunna happen.... Look how many views we have and look how many people have offered an article....
I once wrote and article called "The Shoping Trolley" about and old bomb VW I bought. When it was posted it got more interest than any of the fancy VW's I put up... go figure.
Anyway it is your show I was just trying to prove a point .
The sub domain is setup and ready to go, do you want the settings ??
Jay_1965vw 路
I'm happy to do proof reading for the articles we get, providing I have a little bit of time. At the moment I have quite a bit, there's not much happening. Depending on how today pans out I am gonna try to write an article... Shock horror!! :o
馃榾
J
Buggy Boyz 路
you sayen ther is something wrong with teh way I type and speak stuff ???
I don't need proof reading I need a secretary to type for me... Now where is Wes when you need him :sandrine
Jay_1965vw 路
Well, Brad I wasn't gonna point any fingers... *smiles*
I actually like proof reading, believe it or not! 馃榾
J
mattie182 路
Im happy to write an article, supply some pics ect ect. Whats say an article on my little buggy and baja club in Rocky.
I can also offer some VW tech articles (not written by me). Things like:- How to Shorten a floor pan
Improvement Suggestions for Buggies
Grafting a 1500 Bulk head to a super bug floor pan
Trouble shooting speedo repairs
How to improve fuel consumption
A simple Anti-theft trick
Fitting reversing lights
Advice on changing your engine oil
plus heaps more
Which one do you want first, and who am I sending it too?????
matt
vdub2c 路
send it this way mate... whatever you've got to offer will be great.
thanks,
yianni.
Bugged Again 路
I'd be happy to write a short piece on my adventure of moving interstae Newcastle to the Gold Coast. Took two days, slept on the side of the road, broke down few times, stuffed the car full of my whole life and just drove.
Don't know if it was legal but you do such things when you are poor.
Kurt
OvalGlen 路
just curious, have you got any so far ?
vdub2c 路
I have 1...
not happy peoples... only one person followed the deadline.. and has submitted 2 great articles and a few tech articles too 馃檪
so i need more features people... c'mon this thing is for all of us!
OvalGlen 路
ok I 'll try to hussle some as well.
Grey 57 路
Me too. Having trouble getting my hands on the digital from work.
Buggy Boyz 路
Sounds about right.... Not saying I am any better here casue I hven't sent my article yet either.... Why you may ask, cause I am lazy and don't think he will get 10 anyway ..
By the splash page on teh sub domain looks cool. I sometimes wish I wasn't so graphically challenged.
56astro 路
I'd like to think I could provide an article of my Oval when all work is complete.
Not at the panel shop yet but everything is coming along nicely.
Not worth putting "pen to paper" 'till it's finished though.
moonlite6t6beetle 路
yep i'm in, and i would buy... all i ask is that the rides range from classics, to Australia's TOUGHEST HOTTIE VW BUG.
Good luck, i'm in.
OvalGlen 路
OK, I'v sent mine,any feedback please dont hesitate, even if "not really up to standard".
I could add a fair bit more technical info about my project if deemed appropriate.
OvalGlen 路
Has anyone sent in report in writing of the Dyno Day Syd ?
SKEWtYpe3 路
ok i did say i will and i will
have only had a few days off in the last few/several months and will get something together real soon !
PS:can i just send u real photos and u scan them to your size or do i have to digital photo them? i have no digi camera and hard to get at scanner but am lost when i get to use it.
:bounce
vdub2c 路
hey people,
ok mag is coming along slowly, launch will hopefully be mid year. Works been busy.
About 3 people have sent in articles with photos which is a great start 馃檪
If someone can write something up for the dyno day it would be great.
i went down to Bulli and have no problems writing something up for that, i took some photos, but as always, the more the merrier.
Moonlite, it will be a range of bugs... BUT that is only due to the fact that everyone in the forum has different types of bugs and vw's. so the more articles we get, the greater the spread!
keep coming with the articles people 馃檪
thanks a bunch.
Yianni.
Oh and BTW, if you have photos, i can scan them for you, but i would like an envelope and postage so i can send them back to you... otherwise it may get expensive.
cheers 馃檪
SKEWtYpe3 路
Nurries !!
:bounce
The_Bronze. 路
Check your mailbox - the hinges are about to give way!
Better to have too much than not enough.
Cheers Yanni - Keep in touch.
Always here to lend a hand. Might wanna get Jen to proof it. It was late when I finally got it together.
moonlite6t6beetle 路
OK I'm really exited
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce
and if you want an article on a Hot Rod restoration in the making of a 15 year old kid preping a dub for his P's, maybe even if it was a one page peice... (it would really be appreciated)
Go to www underneath this post and follow this...
Click on the logo and enter
(Now your home)... Click Moonlite6t6beetle on the side panel
(now your in the enter page) from here is all the imfomation (reguallay updated) of my bug in restoration, if you need anything else i'm happy to help.
Corey
vdub2c 路
Corey,
I know about your site i've been regularly checkin it out.. looks unreal 馃榾
everyone, thanks for the interest....
Ok just a progress report, i've done most of the design of the site and am hoping to launch it mid this year...
BUT i can't do a thing without articles!
I have 3 articles so far, and i must say, :thumb nicely writtena nd will be a great read for everyone who checks em out... I have been given tech articles by Matt (thanks mate), and features by, OvalGlen, Matt, and Grey 57. And i have done articles about my 3 dubs. It's not enough though.... so... If anyone has an article, please send it my way.
Honestly it doesn't have to be much... we arn't going for the quality of VW australia or VW Trends, YET.
we just wanna see everyones dubs and hear a bit about em.
Yanni I noticed you didn't list me. Does that mean you haven't got it or you have somthing against Bajas. Hopefully the former. I still have the article and I've saved the pics onto CD so if you have got it let me know and I'll resend it. It was big so perhaps it was to big.
vdub2c 路
The_Bronze. wrote:Yanni I noticed you didn't list me. Does that mean you haven't got it or you have somthing against Bajas. Hopefully the former. I still have the article and I've saved the pics onto CD so if you have got it let me know and I'll resend it. It was big so perhaps it was to big.
Nothing against Bajas' ol' buddy, i just haven't got it!
Btw, website templates have been made up and i am awaiting content.
I have a few articles, but more would be good for a big first issue.
Cheers,
Yianni
VWFOOL 路
hey yianni
this is the first time ive read this post, looks great my friend, good work.
would youl like ti me to cover the nationals with pics and a write up about the day. i hav dig cam and english skills.
let me know if this sounds like it might help. tell me wat kind of size and resolution you would prefer the pics. anyway, keep up the good work.
sam vwfool@hotmail.com
The_Bronze. 路
Hmmm - Thats a worry Yanni.
I'll write up another Article if it can't be found on my home computer Yanni. I did send it but my email account isn't that reliable at the best of time which is why I rely on Hotmail for communicating.
I get right onto it when I return to Dubbo.
In the meantime I'll take a few more action pics to add to the folder I'll send you.
moonlite6t6beetle 路
ok i am putting a peice together about the next generation of vw entusiests, i will type an article about myself, but who else will be join with me?
baybuscamperkid 路
moonlight, I can give u a hand if necessary, Im 17 with a bay camper.
The_Bronze. 路
I've been heaps slack Yanni - I will have to write another article although I still have the pics I took. I can find the original anywhere. The Dog-O-War is undergoing a paint job soon so I had better hurry up and get it posted while its Orange - won't stay like that for long hopefully.
baybuscamperkid 路
hey moonlight, did u ever get my email, i sent it ages ago and havent heard back from you?
Well it has been a long time now and still nothing but hot air.
I can understand why the Aust VW mags went tits up.......
pickle 路
Hey it would be great to see a aussie VW mag, i get fed up of only seeing english mags that have a thing for grade A cars and vans only and don't seem to care for the normal everyday veedub.
would love to help out anyway i can but i might be a bit to far to help you out over here in england. the offer is there if your interested tho.
good luck anyways 馃榾
Bugged Again 路
2- Brad's 2020 Powered Meyers Manx
Does that mean it will be finished in 2020?????????
Brad 路
馃榾馃榾 That is Piss funny, if it is finished by 2020 I am sure it will be still done in time for the first edition !!!!:kiss
mattie 路
when will it be up and runnin thinkin bout makeing a feat on the 61 and the 57 ragtop wot ya reckon
68AutoBug 路
How is it going Yanni?
I have just seen this posting....
I can write some articles for You.
with pics etc....
What is happening??
You know it takes more than one person to do a magazine and they don't do anything else.... and have all the gear to do it easily too... anyway best wishes...
Lee
you read it here first!
looking forward to it
Andy
vanderaj 路
I've installed a CMS into the magazine space.
What I'd like to happen is:
For the people who jumped in and said "hey we'll be editors" to contact me and I'll create you an account which can edit graphics / layout / templates and submit / edit articles. The product I've chosen is very customizable. Too much so. What I'm saying is, if you can't get the CMS to look and act like you want, I'd be very very surprised.
For the people who just want to submit stories, I will create an account with it so you can easily create new stories and edit your own stories.
The idea is that the editors will look after the magazine's look and feel and create departments.
Content producers (like Jen for example) could submit whenever they liked. For example, I could theoretically give an account for VW to publish their own PR into the magazine's press releases area for example.
nice work. i will help out if necessary, i sent an artical to moonlite ages ago that he was going to amalgamate with one of his own, but he seems to have forgotten, so i will email u shortly.