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Australias Fastest VW for Sale...

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shiftyvw ·

For Sale
Australias Fastest VW 8.96@161.15mph
5" chop top
Full Chassis
VW Style Front suspension with Ladder bar rear
4 wheel disk brakes
2 complete Transmissions, Kombi style with Folts Swingaxles.
Multiple Clutches and Spares
FXL data Logger
Autometer Instruments
and much more!
Weighs 1475lbs without driver

Would like to sell as a roller $17500
Call Rod Penrose on 42729920 for more info

Car can be viewed at the summernationals in feb.

shiftyvw ·

more pics

[Edited on 26-1-2005 by shiftyvw]

shiftyvw ·

one more

57kombi ·

No engine specs???????

Whats the engine that comes with it????
What do you mean sell as a roller, does this price not include the engine.
If not then its not the fastest vw is it???

Cheers
Dave

shiftyvw ·

Roller Means No engine. Will fit any VW style motor.
If you want the engine as well talk to rod about price.
Engine is a 2.8 autocraft with t72 turbo and Nitrous.

Craig Paton ·

What's Rod up to now?

57kombi ·

Not trying to be funny but, how can you advertise Australias fastest vw for sale, when it is just a body,
without the engine it is not the fastest vw is it. More like the slowest.

Cheers
Dave

sean68 ·

Would love to buy this car
alas not enough readys 🙁

wasn't rod rumoured to be in the US not long ago looking to buy another car

gotta love the wheel stand in the first photo
is the front end still straight :duh

[Edited on 26-1-2005 by sean68]

HotRodMatt ·

So add 20 odd grand of engine and another Super Sedan racer is in the ranks for less than 40k. Pretty cheap entry into Group 3/4 racing.


I have a whole series of that wheelstand Sean. I'm glad I was on the "wrong" side of the track for that run!

[Edited on 27-1-2005 by HotRodMatt]

Doug Sweetman ·

yeah, bet Rod neede a new pair of jocks after that !

sean68 ·

If i remember rightly wasn't it a double wheelstand and he bent the wheelie bars

have to agree with you h r matt, was looking with a friend at buying joe signorelli's rx7 pro rwd car and he was asking $40k as a roller:duh

pete wood ·

that's great value for a chassis that you know is good for eights. And he's already done all the hard work chopping and modding it.
How much is an autocraft engine?

Craig Paton ·

Well I'd run either a supercharged or turbo'd 1916 with aluminium case and good heads,Stan's 2-plug ignition and I'd reckon that would be a good setup to run in Rod's car!
Nice and cheap to run and maintain,fairly quick and I'd paint it Black with heaps of clear!!!!!!

:bounce:bounce

hypo-vw ·

Craig Paton wrote:What's Rod up to now?
Rods new project is a NEW BEETLE bodied full chassis drag car that will keep his father Allan very busy again building the new chassis , just like the last one . The body has been wind tunnel tested in Germany and the mould has already left on its way here .

Craig Paton ·

Gotta hand it to Rod, he doesn't do things by halves!!
Can't wait to see his next creation!

shiftyvw ·

If it was me buying the car i would set it up to run high nines all day long reliably and 400hp would be all that you need. Seriously, car is excellent value. would cost a lot more to build yourself.

dragbug ·

For Sale.
Australia's most modified Push car.
Fully set up to be rolled around to your hearts content.
Comes with Fred and Barny to power it!
Yabba Dabba DO!

dragbug ·

Ron Lummus did this 2 plus years ago!!!
Which was tested in the tunnel in Germany,
Sure this isnt someone else's story about a new beetle?

[Edited on 30-1-2005 by dragbug]

reub ·

hmmmm, I'd wack a works WRX engine in it...:thumb

hypo-vw ·

dragbug wrote:Ron Lummus did this 2 plus years ago!!!
Which was tested in the tunnel in Germany,
Sure this isnt someone else's story about a new beetle?

[Edited on 30-1-2005 by dragbug]
rummour has it that it is the same mould that Ron Lummus used . Cant be sure though , 2nd hand information . Maybe Rod will let us know ?

71superbug ·

hehe yeah. a worked worked subie motor pumping 800hp :p

Anthony

pete wood ·

be easy to build a 400hp subbie. mmm cheap power....:thumb

lost ·

57kombi wrote:Not trying to be funny but, how can you advertise Australias fastest vw for sale, when it is just a body,
without the engine it is not the fastest vw is it. More like the slowest.

Cheers
Dave
he he he...maybe they are going to cut a hole in the floor and freddie flinstone will buy it.

LOWBUG ·

subbie??? you may as well put a rotary in it

Craig Torrens ·

pete wood wrote:be easy to build a 400hp subbie. mmm cheap power....:thumb
I think you will find it's not really that easy.....

pete wood ·

maybe youare right Craig.
LOWBUG wrote:subbie??? you may as well put a rotary in it
We could take LOWBUG's tip instead, 13Bt's are good for heaps of mumbo. Or maybe, a 20Bt.....:thumb

LOWBUG ·

Not so much as a tip, but a shit stir.

Mind you that sort of engine would easily cost between 30 and 50K not to mention the cost in time getting the bastard to run right, look at that guy here in NSW with the metalic grey drag car at the VW nats last year, people in his crew swore that it would do 8's off the trailer, and he couldn"t get it down the strip.

Doug Sweetman ·

Thats racing for you.

pete wood ·

LOWBUG wrote:not to mention the cost in time getting the bastard to run right, look at that guy here in NSW with the metalic grey drag car at the VW nats last year, people in his crew swore that it would do 8's off the trailer, and he couldn"t get it down the strip.
to be fair, I think it is more than capable of 8s, and they were only certification runs. his real issue was chronic wheelspin everytime the car came on boost. That was on low boost too. he was sent home coz he crossed the centre line. He doesn't even know how much power it's making coz it wheelspins on the dyno.

I spoke to him afterwards. His shocks were too short and every time the car came on boost, the back axles squatted, went into negative camber and the car lost it's tyre footprint, hence the wheelspin. He was waiting on a set of shocks from Ron Lummus Racing in the states.

71superbug ·

rotary. YAY. thats wat i actually plan to put in my street beetle. but everyone said it was a bad idea. finally. someone to agree 🙂

Anthony

Doug Sweetman ·

Hey I never did ! I reckon its a gerat idea too.

A little off topic, but did you know there is a guy with a White pearl beetle with 13b turbo in it in Perth ? Has been around for ages, has the mazda instruments in the bug dash and aingle nut wheels. I *think* that either formaz or rotomotion did the conversion, but dont quote me on that.

hypo-vw ·

71superbug wrote:rotary. YAY. thats wat i actually plan to put in my street beetle. but everyone said it was a bad idea. finally. someone to agree 🙂

Anthony
I did a 12A rotary conversion to my callook suicide door beetle back in 1988 . It was a great conversion and very fast . when I took out the stock 12A and fitted a peripheral ported 12A , it was insane . the thing didn't seem to wake up until it reached 7000rpm and then you couldn't hold it back . I would quite regulary rev it to 11000rpm . Easily reached 195kph in 3rd gear @ 9500rpm with 4.375 diff . It must have been so threatening to the legend VW racers of CLUB VW ILLAWARRA back then , as they kicked me out of the club . NO ROTARIES ALLOWED !! as fast as it was on the street , I attended many hillclimbs with it . At Huntley hillclimb (west dapto) I would always win my class with a best time of 30.7secs . I now run my VW powered there in the same class and hold the track record for 2litre to 3 litre sports sedans of 24.45secs . The VW engine develops so much more torque that I would not go back to a rotary . saying that I still would not discourage you from trying the conversion yourself , Its a lot of work but well worth it . If you need any advise or assistance , don't hesitate to call me on 02 42725644 .:blah:blah

pete wood ·

A turbo will retifiy some of the lack of torque issues. :thumb

VWFREAK ·

Rod, your dreamn, lol

Good luck with the sale mate. I'll be back in sydney in a while so we'll have to catch up.

Peter.

Craig Torrens ·

pete wood wrote:
LOWBUG wrote:not to mention the cost in time getting the bastard to run right, look at that guy here in NSW with the metalic grey drag car at the VW nats last year, people in his crew swore that it would do 8's off the trailer, and he couldn"t get it down the strip.
to be fair, I think it is more than capable of 8s, and they were only certification runs. his real issue was chronic wheelspin everytime the car came on boost. That was on low boost too. he was sent home coz he crossed the centre line. He doesn't even know how much power it's making coz it wheelspins on the dyno.

I don't think it will break 10's.............................as for the wheelspin on the Dyno............plenty of 1000 + hp cars at the summernats that don't seem to have this problem !

Good luck to him for trying :thumb

TRENT_DEMOS ·

Hii CRAIG you seem to think that my car will only be able to run 10s....what gives you this impression?......surely you can understand that a car with a pauter turbo nitrous set up with a lummus chassis is capable of a 9s pass......therefore you are implying that either me or my team are incompetant......you seem know a lot about certain people thet you do not even know .....
by the way the car ran 10.40 at 145mph first full pass..being the expert on drag racing that you are surely you will know that 145mph is good for a 9s pass...the car did not dyno due to excessive neg camber and incorrect toe ....hope you do your research before you comment next and time..,,TIME will tell if you are correct about the ET....
SOON TO PROVE YOU WRONG ...REGARDS TRENT DEMOS

[ Edited on 19-11-2005 by TRENT_DEMOS ]

[ Edited on 19-11-2005 by TRENT_DEMOS ]

10x10x ·

Craig , maybe it may be producing 1000 hp

[ Edited on 24-11-2005 by 10x10x ]

crewcabconnection ·

yes it is, Pete said so. Hes powered by the ultimate force mate. He cannot lie...

dangerous ·

I know it is a little off topic, but I had a hell of alot of trouble
trying to stop wheelspin on the dyno and I only had 188hp
There was no way it was going to work with slicks.
We ended up using road radials and strapping it down on
a wooden block.
I guess it depends on the type of dyno and rear suspension.
Don't take these peoples comments to heart Trent,
there is alot of deep issues they have from years of rivalry.
Just like religion and politics!

TRENT_DEMOS ·

Dave thanx for explanation
.....these negative comments are not necessary....

some people will never understand dynos....there are so many variables....strapping as you mentioned...tyre type ,pressure and width .....ramp rate...how engine comes on boost.....condition of dyno rollers...and the list goes on.....

our problem was mainly due to too soft rear spring rate causing squat and in turn...too much neg camber....

the other problem this caused was that when we ran close loop on ecu....the tyres turned hard at 6000rpm....ecu then dumped fuel to compensate and then the engine fell over ....end of run....
we could only get a decent run at 14psi.....waste of time on a methanol engine with intercooler....fuel mix would not burn....then broke down.....will chassis dyno next time.....if we need ...too hard to tune with turning tyres.......and risk a problem

If you would like to reply please do so at my thread......thanx Dave......

1303Steve ·

Hi Trent

PAC Performance use a hub dyno, this elimnates wheel spin. Have you considered using one of these?

Steve

TRENT_DEMOS ·

Steve good call i have definately looked at a hub dyno....as well as engine dyno...if i need to i will do it...whatever it takes..

mnsKmobi ·

shiftyvw wrote:Car can be viewed at the summernationals in feb.
Great I'm off to the summernats! "Put those away young lady, I'm here to see Australia's fastest VW!":P

shiftyvw ·

summernationals, not summernats, but your a bit late anyway!