Who did you vote for? NATS 05 · Aussieveedubbers

frenzix · 28 Mar 2005, 1:13 pm

just wondering who you voted for peoples choice at this years NATS?

I voted for St George Catering Panel

Tim

vwombat · 28 Mar 2005, 3:48 pm

I vote that crusty looking hippy from the North Coast with his preggers Babe and Son in a Goldfleck Type 3 filled otherwise with Pot and chocky!

:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:P

t2 · 28 Mar 2005, 3:59 pm

3 votes for the st george bus (3 people voted)

buzzbug · 28 Mar 2005, 5:33 pm

i actually voted for the black NB,
It just looked very neat.

pod · 28 Mar 2005, 5:54 pm

i voted for the bel of the ball, she was beautiful:thumb

Y2K · 28 Mar 2005, 7:27 pm

buzzbug wrote:i actually voted for the black NB,
It just looked very neat.

wohoo that was me...thanks heaps
:kiss

byronbus · 28 Mar 2005, 7:42 pm

I voted 26 times for the rat st george catering split

frenzix · 28 Mar 2005, 8:21 pm

i know at least 10 people that voted for the st george

byronbus · 28 Mar 2005, 8:34 pm

I think the voting for peoples choice is rigged...

66NIK · 28 Mar 2005, 8:36 pm

Someone stole my people's choice slip out of my bus but I have a fair idea how it was filled out.

byronbus · 28 Mar 2005, 8:42 pm

yeah sorry nik, tried to get jeremys but his locks work, couldnt get in...1st bay ive seen that the locks work...

buzzbug · 28 Mar 2005, 9:36 pm

hey Y2K not a worry,

i was trying to find you to let you know that i thought your car was a nice piece of work.

Y2K · 29 Mar 2005, 8:10 am

thanks heaps, i was hard to find but it was hard to find other people too, i missed out on meeting heaps of people.

HotRodMatt · 29 Mar 2005, 8:40 am

Mine went to Bel as well.

frenzix · 29 Mar 2005, 12:43 pm

anyone else? cmon own up!! Bel was lovely.

frenzix · 29 Mar 2005, 12:43 pm

so who won it anyway? has anyone got any pics of the car?

zac_smits · 29 Mar 2005, 11:12 pm

i voted for bel 😀

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 8:54 am

" I think the voting for peoples choice is rigged..."

Well if you really want to know.....

the biggest amount of votes was 13. and thats the car that won the award....

7 people counted the tickets.... sorry to dissapoint you but its NOT rigged.

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 9:02 am

who won it again? i missed it sorry.. any pics?

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 9:03 am

and martin, i voted for him too, nice ass

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 9:20 am

vw54 wrote:" I think the voting for peoples choice is rigged..."

Well if you really want to know.....

the biggest amount of votes was 13. and thats the car that won the award....

7 people counted the tickets.... sorry to dissapoint you but its NOT rigged.

Dave, i know how many tickets there were for the rat split, more than 13, some might say it was rigged, because i put more than 13 in the box...

[Edited on 29/3/2005 by byronbus]

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 9:25 am

Dave, it seems Club VW dont like rats, a distinct lack of pics of some nice cars on the website, is there a conspiracy against orignal ratty cars?

Its just a bit of fun...I think the highlight for the day for a vast majority of people was the dsk split hopping around loaded up with people...

The catering split was definately the most photographed on the day...

I think the day was great, just would be good to have more events like in the UK...

Good work, great show

dsk member

[Edited on 29/3/2005 by byronbus]

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 10:19 am

Well sorry to inform you, like i said before there was 7 other people counting the votes....

ColumBUS · 30 Mar 2005, 11:20 am

so who won people choice???

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 11:33 am

Dave, will there be a rat category next year? Or like VWFOOL's idea of a club sponsored trophy, dsk could sponsor one as well????

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 11:47 am

Sorry I dont think so,

It goes against the grain.... of what our show is all about....

But yr welcome to do it yourselfs

The Peoples Choice award was won by car 11 Shirley Pleydon.

HotRodMatt · 30 Mar 2005, 12:38 pm

vw54 wrote:It goes against the grain.... of what our show is all about....

This goes back to what I said before about a "Nationals" being 'owned' by a club. Club VeeDub do a good show - they get a good turn up and work at hard at putting the show on so this is by no means a slight against them.

A "Nationals" by definition is a show/comp that embraces and represents an entire scene. Most "nationals" events are the combined efforts of a number of clubs/groups. A "Nationals" event showcases emerging trends, historical influences, the best, the average and the horrible.

A "nationals" that is 'our event' is a nationals in name only.

Look at other "nationals' events. The event is put on not by one club. The trophies are usually sponsored by all the clubs attending and often even the 'lone wolves'. The organisation and amenities are provided by groups and clubs cooperatively. The VW scene IS big enough for this and still have room and support for clubs to have their own shows.

Rats do against the grain. That is the point. They subvert the show system and expose the supposed objective judging of the show system. However a piece of shit with some rims is not a rat. It might be ratty, but not a rat. But that's the problem with terms - the definition changes. Subjective judging (some may say it is already used in all classes) or popular choice are the only ways to measure cars that do not fit the show judging formula.

vw54 wrote:The Peoples Choice award was won by car 11 Shirley Pleydon.

And a very worthy car of winning it! Both of Ray and Shirley's cars are consistantly of great standard. They get driven and looked after and they are never the same from show to show. Even something as small as a bit of glass etching or some striping but they always continually improve the cars. Big thumbs up to two of the coolest people in the scene!

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 12:40 pm

Did she win it last year?

Fossil · 30 Mar 2005, 12:43 pm

ah the joy of it all :thumb

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 12:43 pm

vw54 wrote:Sorry I dont think so,

It goes against the grain.... of what our show is all about....

But yr welcome to do it yourselfs

We are welcome to do it at the nationals or do we have to run our own show? Or are you asking us to run the nationals?

All it would take would be some different clubs with different ideas to run a few events as a part of the nationals...it wouldnt take anymore work on your part...

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 12:53 pm

HotRodMatt wrote:
This goes back to what I said before about a "Nationals" being 'owned' by a club. Club VeeDub do a good show - they get a good turn up and work at hard at putting the show on so this is by no means a slight against them.

A "Nationals" by definition is a show/comp that embraces and represents an entire scene. Most "nationals" events are the combined efforts of a number of clubs/groups. A "Nationals" event showcases emerging trends, historical influences, the best, the average and the horrible.

A "nationals" that is 'our event' is a nationals in name only.

Look at other "nationals' events. The event is put on not by one club. The trophies are usually sponsored by all the clubs attending and often even the 'lone wolves'. The organisation and amenities are provided by groups and clubs cooperatively. The VW scene IS big enough for this and still have room and support for clubs to have their own shows.

Rats do against the grain. That is the point. They subvert the show system and expose the supposed objective judging of the show system. However a piece of shit with some rims is not a rat. It might be ratty, but not a rat. But that's the problem with terms - the definition changes. Subjective judging (some may say it is already used in all classes) or popular choice are the only ways to measure cars that do not fit the show judging formula.
Matt, thats a bit harsh about a piece of shit...

But i agree on the rest...about the "nationals"...

As for going against the grain, variety is good, keeps people interested and coming back. They ask themselves "what will be next?" Keep people wondering and interested...

I love some of the perfectly restored vehicles, the stockies and customs (some i hate), I love matts 55, but I also love the original full of history vehicles. What makes matts split even sweeter is the history behind it, the big arse motor sticking out the back, painting it in the backyard, his background in toranas (crazy).

I love the underground movement in the VW scene that goes against the grain...anyone can pay big bucks and restore a car or buy one restored, you just need a well paid job, but you cant buy history and a good story or a bit of fun and games...enjoy

SteveMk2 · 30 Mar 2005, 1:31 pm

In the UK, where early Golfs are respected, there is a fad going around where guys applied bulk paint stripper to there Mk1's and 2's to the point where there was no paint at all. They then allowed them to rust, with a lovely matt mottled ochre colour covering the whole car. I dont think the netionals should cater for this, either.
There is no doubt that the rat style can be attractive, but the best rats IMO are those with good original paint dumped low and cleaned for the show. In this instance the rat thing would surely be catered for through the best daily driver category.
Just my thoughts... Club VW cant cater fully to every single niche group that starts up or exists within the plethora of interest sub groups within the VW scene.

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 1:33 pm

How come?

SteveMk2 · 30 Mar 2005, 1:38 pm

...cos there are a plethora of them...

Like I said, the best rats are covered by the daily driver category. As an organiser of the Canberra weekend, I would find it difficult to add a category to cater for that niche. That said, it would be a shame for rats to be unrepresented at the nationals.

HotRodMatt · 30 Mar 2005, 1:47 pm

SteveMk2 wrote:Club VW cant cater fully to every single niche group that starts up or exists within the plethora of interest sub groups within the VW scene.

No they can't but a collectively organised nationals event can. Look at the ASRF Street Rod Nationals or the Hot Rod Rumble both of which were held on the same weekend.

Both had trophies/categories (both subjectively and objectively judged) sponsored or organised by different clubs. Both had categories supported by lone wolves. Neither show was 'owned' by any one club - the ASRF organised the Nationals but didn't take ownership of it. There is no talk of going against the grain as the grain IS THE ENTRANTS AND SPECTATORS.

If there are so many niche groups and interests then maybe it is time for the Nationals to become the (veedub) Nationals rather than the Club VeeDub Nationals. The Club VeeDub show even if still called the nationals wouldn't be threatened by such a show. The calendar is wide open and I'm sure Club VeeDub would benefit as much from a Nationals as much as other clubs, lone wolves and the scene in general.

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 1:48 pm

Other clubs could sponsor particular events and trophys...

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 1:50 pm

Club VeeDub could still host it and still get the profits, but other clubs could have some input and a variety of different events on the day...

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 1:57 pm

We could .... just give every one a trophy as they enter the gate....

Now that would solve the problems.... LOL

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 2:00 pm

Dave that would be silly, I dont even want a trophy, i didnt even register the split i was driving...just dont understand the resistence to change and progress...🙂

HotRodMatt · 30 Mar 2005, 2:01 pm

byronbus wrote:Matt, thats a bit harsh about a piece of shit...

Is it? A rat isn't some decaying car pulled from under a tree.

Frenzix and Ben Livingstone had probably the defining rats there. One a barn find, made roadworthy (even if the bling blings have been added) and the other a car made largely by the owner using whatever could be scrounged up to make a cool, working car.

A car that was paraded around with doors flapping and involving a realistic danger to spectators and surrounding cars should have been escorted out of the venue. If anything had have happened with that thing the insurers wouldn't have touched the claims. It was the height of disrespect to the organisers and spectators.

SteveMk2 · 30 Mar 2005, 2:04 pm

I have to quietly agree with the last part of this statement. It was also sad to see an old bus treated so appallingly.

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 2:04 pm

HotRodMatt wrote:
byronbus wrote:Matt, thats a bit harsh about a piece of shit...
Is it? A rat isn't some decaying car pulled from under a tree.

Frenzix and Ben Livingstone had probably the defining rats there. One a barn find, made roadworthy (even if the bling blings have been added) and the other a car made largely by the owner using whatever could be scrounged up to make a cool, working car.

A car that was paraded around with doors flapping and involving a realistic danger to spectators and surrounding cars should have been escorted out of the venue. If anything had have happened with that thing the insurers wouldn't have touched the claims. It was the height of disrespect to the organisers and spectators.

Mat, it wasnt found under a tree or in a paddock...

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 2:05 pm

Cmon guys, it was beyond repair, did you bother to look at it?

And as far as i understand, the organisers gave permission for a drive around the complex, no one was in any danger or their cars...just a bit of fun...

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by byronbus]

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 2:06 pm

It was the height of disrespect to the organisers and spectators.

yeah well u just carnt tell some people .....

SteveMk2 · 30 Mar 2005, 2:07 pm

...regardless... it had the spectating entertainment of seeing someone beat a crippled horse...

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 2:09 pm

Anyway, fun was had, there was no intention to offend anyone, just a bit of fun and something different...

Cant wait til next year...

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by byronbus]

VolksFolks · 30 Mar 2005, 2:13 pm

SteveMk2 wrote:I have to quietly agree with the last part of this statement. It was also sad to see an old bus treated so appallingly.

So Appallingly! Should it be Crushed then, or left in a shed to turn to dust, as you could see the car was passed restoration, get it out there and show it off, not piss it off

ITS A VW

Andy

HotRodMatt · 30 Mar 2005, 2:13 pm

byronbus wrote:no one was in any danger or their cars...just a bit of fun...

Except for at least one person I saw nearly knocked flying by the swinging door.

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 4:11 pm

i personally would like to be smashed by a flying double door, it's the way to go i think.

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 4:21 pm

its funny how some people are jelous of others having fun, and grabbing the attention... i only know of a few humbugs that didn't like watching it cruze... And YES PERMISSION WAS ALLOWED!!!!

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 5:04 pm

And YES PERMISSION WAS ALLOWED!!!!

Sorry i said NO but you just carnt tell some people.....

I dont know who you ask ???

just dont understand the resistence to change and progress...

Please enlighten me on the rules n regulations and criteria for a RAT look ??? and how one is to be judged ???

Any time you want to organise a show your welcome to add n delete any thing you want .... I wont complain.. Come to think of it when is the next show ??

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 5:15 pm

well someone said yes that apparantly had authority..

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 5:18 pm

Someone AINT me...

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 5:19 pm

i didn't say you

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 5:19 pm

🙂

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 5:20 pm

tim you said we had permission

frenzix · 30 Mar 2005, 5:21 pm

haha dont put this on me .. AHHHH theres disorder in the ranks

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 5:21 pm

Tim Finn from the Band Split Ends ????

byronbus · 30 Mar 2005, 5:22 pm

thats funny dave, you do have a sense of humor

vw54 · 30 Mar 2005, 5:24 pm

END of subject ...

SteveMk2 · 30 Mar 2005, 8:49 pm

It was a great show just the way it was, Dave. Thanks.

vw1963 · 30 Mar 2005, 9:47 pm

hahhaa

ph billet · 30 Mar 2005, 10:05 pm

Dave you and your club put on the best show every year its the hilight of the VW calander just keep doing what you are doing.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by ph billet]

jenz58 · 30 Mar 2005, 10:37 pm

...what is going on here guys...not reading back....3 pages...I hope good stuff and not crap nit picking...

I've no time to read...gotta catch up on positive stuff....i know who I voted for and not Bel 🙂

Hey...we all like different Types n looks....who knows who came in the gate and what they all liked...WELL...the vote said it... 😎

frenzix · 31 Mar 2005, 8:31 am

vw1963 you started this all

byronbus · 31 Mar 2005, 8:41 am

Damn hippies

VDUBXTC · 2 Apr 2005, 9:29 pm

ph billet wrote:Dave you and your club put on the best show every year its the hilight of the VW calander just keep doing what you are doing.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by ph billet]

I couldn't agree more with this