New forum: Bad attitude

Hi there,

after a long losing battle against posts which continually brush up against the forum rules, we have established on a trial basis a new password protected forum called "Bad Attitude". This is in honor of a legendary mail list of the same name from the early 1990's.

To obtain access, we will restrict access to those 18 and over so posters can be a bit more risque in their posts. As we can't prove your age easily, you'll need to e-mail me for the password. If it turns out you're not over 18, at least I have an e-mail from you showing you lied to us. 🙂

This forum is for:

• People with thick skins. You dish it, you'll get it back. Don't whine when it happens.
• The more mature jokes. You know what I mean 🙂
• Politics
• Religion
• Anything which is dicey in the other forums

What this forum will not contain:

• Defamatory posts - we can't afford for the forum to close
• Aggro between members. Argue with words not hate.
• Pr0n - it's against our hosting agreement.

As theoretically people under 18 will not be in the bad attitude forum, posts can be a bit more risque, but please note the last bullet point above.

Andrew

Sounds like a good idea.

fink jen and i are candidates...can i send one of my kids as proof i'm over 18...u can work it out if u know maths....

**if son is 17yo, and girls are first able to have children at age 12 (youngest reported case is 5...then she should be at least 22...22 is greater than 18 so password issued...**

I'll send same child as proof jens over 18 too!

hehe

And can i nominate which catagory i want...cause i dont want ppl to be mean too me...sob sob, cause i dont have thick skin....sob sob...

Good idea that man...................

Can we U2U you instead of having to use Email? After all, I don't know you're email.

if u click the email button under his post, u get his email address...

but its vanderaj@hotmail.com

cant wait to turn 18 now!:birthday:birthday

hahahaha! just what we need!

yeah...ur posts are too dirty for general viewing!...mine on the other hand are very very clean...

Ah what!, no Pron! damn..............

OK i'm in 😎

...bug n I can have host a none pron area..

...we can be a bit more risque with our posts easy...is this an invite 😎:party

Risque without the pron .... so porn's OK then 😉 :P

We could have a virtual mud wrestling ring for those who want to fight it out over something...we can make them get in...'semi naked' ....and they can get all the pent up angst out of their system in a muddy romp...Idea??!!! mmmmm

[Edited on 13-4-2005 by jenz58]

does this mean i get to see pics of kikko in his lepoard skin hotpants??!!!

oh joy!!!:party:party:party

sounds like a capital idea chaps... would definitely ease some tempers around here🙂

....no pics of kikko leopard skin pants PLEASE....the sight might give me 'bad' dreams... :P

Yes we need some water for the fire at the moment... and a romp in the mud pit would help easy tempers...

del mental_image/kikko*leopard*
Access denied - committed to long term memory

ARGH

Yeah, u2u is fine as well.

Andrew

darn it...thought mud pit was for my exclusive use...


wanna join me andrew??

Thats a good idea...

Keep the bad language etc somewhere else...

where I won't go....

I'm only interested in VWs....

Lee

i think its a good idea to lee....

...it is but a bit quiet in there at the moment with you all out here lol

Nite :sandrine

Is the purpose of this to only talk about VW related stuff ? I can imagine that if it a subject dear to my heart will be bantered around a bit. If not I will be in ....

I can prove I am over 18, I need to use night cream !

whats the subject, and i will check for u....

so far andrew started a very strange poll, & is talking politics. oh and kk has his own thread...

and there r some strange pics...none pron though

vanderaj wrote:del mental_image/kikko*leopard*
Access denied - committed to long term memory

ARGH

Yeah, u2u is fine as well.

Andrew

hahahahaha nice andrew... you are 1337! :P

Zac

OMG i feel so n00b round here... ive been pwned

Yeah, im only 16 and have already taken citisism from aussieveedubber members from when i joined only a week ago!

Atleast now, if some picky loser whats to diss someone, that can dish it to someone else who is willing to recieve it, rather than the vulerable I.

(By all means though, i dont mind hearing the dirty/mature jokes though, but there are a lot of other, perhaps even younger, members)

Good on you Admin, you atleast taking the initiative to lower the effects and abuse on inncent forum participants from the few lerking scum bags in this forum.

mynameischris88 wrote:Yeah, im only 16 and have already taken citisism from aussieveedubber members from when i joined only a week ago!

Atleast now, if some picky loser whats to diss someone, that can dish it to someone else who is willing to recieve it, rather than the vulerable I.

(By all means though, i dont mind hearing the dirty/mature jokes though, but there are a lot of other, perhaps even younger, members)

Good on you Admin, you atleast taking the initiative to lower the effects and abuse on inncent forum participants from the few lerking scum bags in this forum.

Mood: A horse walked into a bar and the barman said "What a long face!". HA HA. [GET IT (ITS A JOKE)]



I think the joke ends 'why the long face'

vanderaj wrote:Hi there,

after a long losing battle against posts which continually brush up against the forum rules, we have established on a trial basis a new password protected forum called "Bad Attitude". This is in honor of a legendary mail list of the same name from the early 1990's.

To obtain access, we will restrict access to those 18 and over so posters can be a bit more risque in their posts. As we can't prove your age easily, you'll need to e-mail me for the password. If it turns out you're not over 18, at least I have an e-mail from you showing you lied to us. 🙂

This forum is for:

• People with thick skins. You dish it, you'll get it back. Don't whine when it happens.
• The more mature jokes. You know what I mean 🙂
• Politics
• Religion
• Anything which is dicey in the other forums

What this forum will not contain:

• Defamatory posts - we can't afford for the forum to close
• Aggro between members. Argue with words not hate.
• Pr0n - it's against our hosting agreement.

As theoretically people under 18 will not be in the bad attitude forum, posts can be a bit more risque, but please note the last bullet point above.

Andrew

let me f*&king in, I promise to play nice:thumb

[Edited on 14/4/2005 by PHAT RAT]

vanderaj wrote:Hi there,

• Defamatory posts - we can't afford for the forum to close
• Aggro between members. Argue with words not hate.
• Pr0n - it's against our hosting agreement.

As theoretically people under 18 will not be in the bad attitude forum, posts can be a bit more risque, but please note the last bullet point above.

Andrew

No pron? Fine by me! Bring on the....:rudolf

animal farm?

im in

frenzix wrote:im in

What are you in?

trouble?
jelly pool?
bubble bath?

I need details

...i'm gunna have to go look...been trying to catch up out here before I go get bad... attitude :party

yeah bugger it. i'm sure it's full of fun n games that wouldn't normally be available elsewhere, and the grass smells greener in there..
let the :vader:repuke:puke😠 begin 😀

I can hear me mum. "be careful or you'll have someone's eye out"

Did that ever stop any of us?

where is this ?
can i join?

Who killed the what now?



I'm in.:duh




the middle of a fireworx factory holding two burning sparklers...

Certainly no-one is gonna kill te atmosphere or the moment?

damn...i protested them letting u guys in....

y doesn't andrew ever listen to me...he just sits back there in the corner....watching....i know i saw the poll....

sounds good for the grown ups!

Gee, when I read the title of this thread, I thought it was about us waterpumpers....:thumb

it'sa little rude in there i must admit

Many years ago a bloke named Gow kicked off a VW forum. The first & only one in Australia. From memory I'm one of the original dozen members.

Now, after all these years, there is a section of THIS forum that I need YOUR express permission to enter!
How dare you!!

The dictionary meaning of Forum is " a public place...., an open discission."
I don't know how many young members we have, but if a section is created that procludes just one, it's one too many & we cease to be a forum.
"MEMBERS ONLY" is a club, not a forum.

We thrashed out rules a couple of years ago.
They are reasonable rules, a lot simpler than they were going to be, but clear.
Sail too close to the wind, you'll be deleted, continue to do so, you'll be banned.

So why this defeatist attitude now, to create what equates to an "R" rated section?

While on the subject of the rules, let me draw your attention to paragraph 3, about mid way through;

"....or otherwise a violation of any law."

Ever heard of the anti discrimination act??

You have created a section of the forum that SOME EXISTING MEMBERS CANNOT ACCESS STRICTLY ON THE BASIS OF AGE!!!

THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Someone joining today wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but an existing member is a different story.
There is already one post that says they can't wait til they're 18. If, for arguements sake, this kid takes this to task, the entire forum will be on thin ice.
Let's face it, kids know more about their rights now than I ever did.

You don't do much to change my opinion of you Andrew.

[Edited on 18-4-2005 by Spook]

:kiss

We all love spook

Don't leave, get in here and go nuts

The Vw forum was fine every one stayed faily civil and talked about VW and stuff thats why i joined and joined in as well as trade in cars etc
but now u give the low lifes a place to bag the ones who make the forum work and good info but its now filling up with crap maybe i just get out of VW all together and go back to real people clubs where i dont have to see baggers taking up air and space

mario losing interest fast

kgseller,

actually... i havent read ANYONE bagging ANYTHING in the bad attitude forum.

but thanks for BAGGING EVERYONE that participates in it.

im sorry, is a section of the forum where people who want to talk about things that you dont want to hear about on the main section of the forum totally against your schema of what a forum should be?

once again i re-iterate... no-one on bad attitude has bagged out anyone in the main forum, no-one has bitched about anyone in the main forum and no-one has made any sort of defamatory remark about anyone in the main forum.

but you have single handedly gone and done to all the people on the bad attitude forum what you "assume" they have done to everyone else.

nice one.

Karmann ghia seller wrote:The Vw forum was fine every one stayed faily civil and talked about VW and stuff thats why i joined and joined in as well as trade in cars etc
but now u give the low lifes a place to bag the ones who make the forum work and good info but its now filling up with crap maybe i just get out of VW all together and go back to real people clubs where i dont have to see baggers taking up air and space

mario losing interest fast

Next Christmas, ask for a comma.
Posts directly "bagging" other people, or their rides, tend to disappear pretty quickly.
Discussions, or even full fledged arguements, on the other hand, are entirely different.
That IS what makes it a forum.

It's not a secret that Andrew & I are not on each others Christmas card list.
I don't think he takes it personally, & I stopped worrying about whether people liked me when I was 12.

Hellbus,
I aint going anywhere, but by the same token, I am not about to waste my time looking in the "sealed section".
But I am dark that I need approval to do so.

I am genuinely worried about not allowing certain members into any one part of the forum stictly on the basis of their age.
It is discrimination, & for that reason it is a bad move & it has the potential to become a dangerous move.
It's only going to take one of the younger members to take issue with it, & we run the risk of the entire forum being shut down.

I don't think we should be willing to bet that.

"bad attitude" is about as open as it can be without being a target for the easily offended. come on. It's simple: it's an area of the forum you can go if you want, but an area of the forum you can't decide to be a bitch about being given a serve, or getting into a heated argument. which, interestingly enough hasn't really happened yet.. although rudeness levels are high :thumb

the point of the exercise is that soft, pink innocent critters will not wander accidentally into an area that their fragile little egos cannot digest, because they've got to actually DO something to get in. a positive choice.

go bad attitude.

As I've said before Peter, good intentions are the mother of all f#ck ups.

your dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

I thought this was a VW forum.

Where does "Bad Attitude" fit in. Frankly I don't think it does. I have been in and read threads in there and I don't think it adds anything to this forum. It detracts from it and the people assosciated with it. Unfortunately I'm associated with the forum, so it makes me look bad.

I guess you have officialy divided the forum.

If you want to talk about willies, pubic hair other childish stuff goto one of the millions of forums already talkig about that crap. This forum "AussieVeeDubbers" should be left VW related.

warb wrote:your dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

YES!!!

Brilliant isn't it?

[Edited on 18-4-2005 by Spook]

it is vw-related. we're all vw freaks, talking crap. no problem.:blah topics are posted and leave the viewing area depending upon how many people want to see them remain (by posting), the common thread being that we're all one big sticky gleaming vw family. it's gonna be hard to start setting rules for what topics may and may not be discussed: there are many specialised forum sections already; this one's just open slather.
I don't see it as reflecting badly on the aussie veedub scene, just on the people who use it, and choose to view it 😎

i got a bit fed up with bad attitude threads taking up 1/2 my topic activity page so i just deleted cookies and logged into AVD again and its all gone.

i can log back in to that section if i feel like seeing whats going on in there later on if i get bored.

helterskelter400 wrote:i got a bit fed up with bad attitude threads taking up 1/2 my topic activity page so i just deleted cookies and logged into AVD again and its all gone.

i can log back in to that section if i feel like seeing whats going on in there later on if i get bored.

Cool, thanks for the tip. Now I can't see bad attitude and it doesn't appear in my "Topic Activity".

Many Thanks.

Spook wrote:I am genuinely worried about not allowing certain members into any one part of the forum stictly on the basis of their age.
It is discrimination, & for that reason it is a bad move & it has the potential to become a dangerous move.
It's only going to take one of the younger members to take issue with it, & we run the risk of the entire forum being shut down.

I'm not on anyone's side: this is a totally neutral post:

Isn't this "discrimination" the same as ratings on TV and movies? M-ratings, R-ratings etc? I could even go so far as to say it's like the legal drinking age is 18 to protect the youngens. But this is perhaps mental heath as opposed to physical health...

my 2c...

I admit I am in the bad attitude forum a bit. I feel in there I am not wasting anyones time or stepping on anyones toes if I let go a bit. It is harder for a moderator to let loose in other sections.

It is like the 'Tomorrow people' and 'People of the here and now' threads. A lot of people ignore them and don't post there. It is a smaller group of people talking crap, and not the whole forum community wants to be in there.

I feel some people may get frustrated if bad attitude was gone, but I cannot see anyone getting frustrated if it stays.

If you are under 18 then that is a fact of life like no drinking, no smoking laws.

Karmann ghia seller wrote:The Vw forum was fine every one stayed faily civil and talked about VW and stuff thats why i joined and joined in as well as trade in cars etc
but now u give the low lifes a place to bag the ones who make the forum work and good info but its now filling up with crap maybe i just get out of VW all together and go back to real people clubs where i dont have to see baggers taking up air and space

mario losing interest fast

Huh ??????

I go into the Bad attitude forum and I am not a low life !
I have seen far less bagging going on in there than out here!If you have been on the forum for some time you will clearly see that NOT all topics are VW related. People posts pics of their kids/partners/weddings/pets etc etc. The VW community has become like a family and people share each others lifes. It is a shame that you feel that you have to leave the VW scene, but I can assure you that ANY car clubs will have their idiosyncraices (oops, can't spell this word !!!). The Bad attitude forum is for people to let off some steam, it's like having a conversation when the kids are in bed. There are a number of sections on this forum that I am not interested in but I don't winge about it, I simply don't go in there. If the bad attitude forum upsets you or you find it offensive then maybe you should not go in there ?

oval TOFU wrote:

Spook wrote:I am genuinely worried about not allowing certain members into any one part of the forum stictly on the basis of their age.
It is discrimination, & for that reason it is a bad move & it has the potential to become a dangerous move.
It's only going to take one of the younger members to take issue with it, & we run the risk of the entire forum being shut down.

I'm not on anyone's side: this is a totally neutral post:

Isn't this "discrimination" the same as ratings on TV and movies? M-ratings, R-ratings etc? I could even go so far as to say it's like the legal drinking age is 18 to protect the youngens. But this is perhaps mental heath as opposed to physical health...

my 2c...

No, not the same.

As I've said, someone joining up now, today cannot, & should not complain about something that is already here.

"Existing" is the magic word.
When the status quo is altered to purposely exclude some of the existing members, that's a different matter.

But to compare it to the legal age of drinking. If they put it back up to 21 next week, there would be an outcry that could bring down a government.
There was talk of raising the age of driving in NSW not long ago, but the instant backlash had Carr in a panic, & he knocked it on the head.

Hellbus, there is a vast difference between not bothering & not being allowed.

[Edited on 18-4-2005 by Spook]

I'm not interested in the section as I've seen it all before in other forums with "flamers sections".😉
But I'm not sure if some of the post titles are right for the daily activity page of the forum.
Have fun:thumb

Removing cookies????

helterskelter400 tell a computer fool like myself how this is done?:duh


[Edited on 18-4-2005 by speedster356]

hi again
Just for the record I havnt got the pass word or have looked at any bad att discussions there but i guess with all the goings on i was right it should go
ok i might of stepped accross the line with low lifes
but thats what bad attitude attracts looking at all the topics listed filling up the forum pages
if you want to let off steam go to a web site that lets you do that if your over 18 thats what there for not VW forum
Ive been in many clubs over the years from Mustang owners to one of the original SA street machiners and they were all for the family not the ..B....A...... you know what fits there
so get back the family forum and user freindly site to the Moderators they made a big mistake with this

:jesus
mario

"Family friendly forum"

Has it ever been this ?

I'm so glad that Spook is around to play devil's advocate...

Karmann ghia seller, how can 'Bad Attitude' make anyone other than the post authors look bad? If you don't post, you can't be held accountable. (Unless you're an Admin:blah)

....well it seems that as far as didding each other ...it's not happening....just some naughty talk and saying the f word just becuase it's allowed...not directing it at anyone....it's very funny

Yes there are threads that are like adult conversations you might have when the kids have gone to bed....all good and no harm done.....except maybe a lost reputation for sweet innocence...how can we look each other in the face ever again??!!! 😉😀

Maybe the people in there are open for all sorts of talk ....and in a couple of areas cheallenging conversations....but of some reason all is cool and a good laugh

If you do get the password and enter then don't complain....it was your choice to do it....

Karmann ghia seller wrote:hi again
Just for the record I havnt got the pass word or have looked at any bad att discussions there but i guess with all the goings on i was right it should go
ok i might of stepped accross the line with low lifes
but thats what bad attitude attracts looking at all the topics listed filling up the forum pages
if you want to let off steam go to a web site that lets you do that if your over 18 thats what there for not VW forum
Ive been in many clubs over the years from Mustang owners to one of the original SA street machiners and they were all for the family not the ..B....A...... you know what fits there
so get back the family forum and user freindly site to the Moderators they made a big mistake with this

:jesus
mario

If you haven't logged into BA the posts won't appear in Activity.

If you logged in once and you don't want to see them in the Activity delete your cookie and log back in.

At least here we can make the decision to not see certain things. When I log in to general I have to see right wing conservative views and that is far more offensive than people having fun with each other and taking the pi55 in a closed forum.



[Edited on 18-4-2005 by HotRodMatt]

....so true...at least it's not anal in there like it can be out here....Hmmmm was that the right word to use out here??😀

To delete your cookies, do this

Click on Tools -> Internet Options
On the General Tab in the Temperary Internet Files section there is a button called Delete Cookies. Click it!!! :P
Donearama 😉

...yep that's the easiest way....done all cookies gone...I do that anyway sometimes just to stop the spam from dodgy site I might have stumbled across :blush

But then you have to remember passwords for sites you do want to get back into:duh

KruizinKombi wrote:I'm so glad that Spook is around to play devil's advocate...

If people would think BEFORE they acted I wouldn't have to, but thus far the track record aint good.

If I was to think before I acted, I would never have bought my wife a veedub. I mean seriously they are bizzare, noisy, flimsy, and ugly 🙂

Strangley enough, there are some of the reasons thay have grown on me so much. 😎

I still think choice is an important and undeniable right

oval TOFU wrote:I still think choice is an important and undeniable right

This may be so, but it is not always possible to give this right to everyone at the same time.

What if I coose to play loud music at 3am, and you choose to sleep? What if you choose to mow the lawns at 8am the next day and I choose to sleep at that time.

What if I choose to wear happy pants amd you choose to wear skin tight vinyl?

WAsn't the forum already divided over water and air?

Spook wrote:

Karmann ghia seller wrote:The Vw forum was fine every one stayed faily civil and talked about VW and stuff thats why i joined and joined in as well as trade in cars etc
but now u give the low lifes a place to bag the ones who make the forum work and good info but its now filling up with crap maybe i just get out of VW all together and go back to real people clubs where i dont have to see baggers taking up air and space

mario losing interest fast

Next Christmas, ask for a comma.
Posts directly "bagging" other people, or their rides, tend to disappear pretty quickly.
Discussions, or even full fledged arguements, on the other hand, are entirely different.
That IS what makes it a forum.

It's not a secret that Andrew & I are not on each others Christmas card list.
I don't think he takes it personally, & I stopped worrying about whether people liked me when I was 12.

Hellbus,
I aint going anywhere, but by the same token, I am not about to waste my time looking in the "sealed section".
But I am dark that I need approval to do so.

I am genuinely worried about not allowing certain members into any one part of the forum stictly on the basis of their age.
It is discrimination, & for that reason it is a bad move & it has the potential to become a dangerous move.
It's only going to take one of the younger members to take issue with it, & we run the risk of the entire forum being shut down.

I don't think we should be willing to bet that.

For once, I agree with Spook. However, the Broadcasting Amendments (which unfortunately we are forced under) DO discriminate on the basis of age. So we have to follow suit. The password also has another good benefit - it keeps all the non-VW silly stuff and rampant use of four letter words away from those who don't want to see it.

Yes, if I sent Christmas cards (atheist that I am!), I doubt I'd send one to Spook. I can't agree with all 2500 of you, and I bet there's a set of members who don't agree with me either.

You don't need approval - just send me (or Jim or Brad) a u2u or e-mail and we'll give you the password, no questions asked. I know you're over 18 as I know you are older than I am and I'm no spring chicken.

Mario - I have responded to you in an e-mail privately, but I'll re-state what I said to you in private. If there's defamation or slander, it is not tolerated anywhere on this forum and that includes Bad Attitude. If you really want the password I'll give it to you, but it sounds like a forum which may offend you, and as such maybe it is better if you give it a miss. If you still want the password, reply to my e-mail and I will give it to you.

Andrew

...so is it like a forum for the one That didn't stick to the rule of AVD?
Rob

frenzix wrote:WAsn't the forum already divided over water and air?

You should never be divided.
We have the aircooled Beetle and a soon to be water cooled bus
I like both small and big ..........
I also like ........ and .........
Everyone should try a bit of everything

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by Helbus]

I dont worry about Christmas cards anyway I think they are waste of time. I wont send them to anyone, like or dislike. I would rather give $50 to the Childrens Hospital 🙂

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by Helbus]

i'm resisting....

Helbus wrote:

oval TOFU wrote:I still think choice is an important and undeniable right

This may be so, but it is not always possible to give this right to everyone at the same time.

And therein lies the difference.
This is not "giving" . It's taking away.

************************************************

"However, the Broadcasting Amendments (which unfortunately we are forced under) Do discriminate on the basis of age. So we have to follow suit"

Andrew, let me make this as plain as I can:
BULLSHIT!

We have a set of rules in place.
They make it reasonably clear how members are expected to behave on the forum & VERY clear the penalties for contrary behaviour.

If the rules are adhered to by the members & properly policed by the moderators, the need for a segregated section does not & will not exist.

If the problem is, as you say, "posts which continually brush up against the forum rules', then the answer is "black ball" the member/s in accordance with the forum rules.
It is certainly not to alienate the junior members for something that probably had nothing to do with them.

As for keeping "all the non-VW silly stuff & rampant use of four letter words" out of the main body of the forum.
This is your own preference Andrew.
There is nothing in the rules that says we can't talk non VW, or "silly stuff".
There is a bit about obscenity, but you get around that by not typing the whole word.

As for what people want to read;
I, & I would imagine everybody else, can usually tell if I want to read a thread by the title. If that doesn't work, the first couple of sentences will let you know if it's worth continuing.

If the problem is trouble makers, you get rid of the trouble makers. The mechanism is already in place to do that.
You do not, on a whim, stop some of the members accessing all areas of the forum.

hi again all

ive requested pass word as ive been sent u2u telling me to look at some of the BA people and what they say
well i can only guess whats been said and what comments
people are talking about I thought this was a VW forum i dont want to see BA in todays post every day taking up all the space or the crap as well in it like headings say

(fucking....) real nice moderator to see it daily
so i have to see not to judge just see see if the people can be nice still these days and be civil

mario :kiss

jenz58 wrote:...come on over into the daaaark side:o😀

it smells like a cattletruck in there... but taystes like chicken.... :duh

dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty perverts :puke

I am appaulled and shocked and I think that forum should be removed :jesus

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I think I caught conjunctavitis from being in there................:o

I thought you needed a password to get in there??How come i just logged in on to the forum as normal & yet i can view everything in Bad Attitude?

Mario...the people in the BA forum are civil at the moment...I think we are just having fun being naughty at the moment while the novelty lasts...but who knows maybe it will

As someone said it is like grown up talk after the kids have gone to bed...I'm sure we'll run out of true confessions soon enough .... Well I am 😉

Honestly...I raised my kids to be open and honest...my husband and I had the most open talks with them and their freinds...we joked (but not obscene...nothing hidden....all with warmth love and fun not harm....they know they can always talk and not be judged...they do and are doing so well

I was raised by very strict parents...I could never talk to them...or if I tried I'd be shot down....I swore I'd never in my life do that to my kids....and haven't....don't hid what you did or who you are...be open and honest....it's not a sin...the sin is hiding and lying...and hiding the true person...that true person is not bad usually but a person who just can't express themselves for what ever reason...

As for intellectual talk (religion and politics etc)...or attempts at it 😀...the people who post are putting up their thoughts....there is no agro because everyone in there has chosen to be there...they are not judging or being offended...as it should be in a true discussion 😎

Maybe the reason we drive VW's is because they are an expression of a life choice...a way of thinking....the represent freedom...the original plan funnily enough....it all goes beyond our rides...I actually think it is fitting for a VW forum to have an area like this....AND yes it is closed for those who may be offended...they don't have to look...and for the under 18's so we're not seen as influencing/harming them in any way...

That is so true Jen. When a political or religious discussion comes up no-one actually gets agro do they? Maybe suppression creats angst and angst creats negativity and that is really no good for the forum.

BA seems rude to some, stupid to some, a waste of time to some, but I have not seen anything negative come from the people using it for what it is.

In fact in the spirit of the BA section, it would be great to see some debate from those that don't like it, in the BA section. Funnily enough they may understand what it is about and have to stand down from their own argument against BA!

Does that make sense?

I'm thinking a little from column 'A' and a little from column 'B'

Some good feeling words in this thread!! keep it up. :thumb

I am not sure I understand the purpose of this BA section though. I have not been but from what has been said about it previously then there is a greater frequency of stong "feeling" words. Seriously who are we trying to protect? People who cant handle the heat or minors, who if they wanted to, could just go to google and type in something even vaguely explicit and be presented with free porn.

The only really valid thing from this whole discussion is the point that a password implies restriction. In this instance i am not sure there is a point in the password as if someone has a problem with offensive material then they should be more careful about what they click on or alternatively be more open to alternatives.

Also If you really look at the title of this forum "AussieVeeDubbers" it is not about the car but the people! If it were about the car then it would be "AussieVeeDoubleU" Thus who cares if people talk about stuff that is not VWs? be social and get involved!

i'm still not in there jen...

nah nah na nah na...

:P 2 u 2 zac!!!

No I can understand the reasoning behind it...a lot of people do come on here purely for the VW information and talking dubbs and some general chat....others of us enjoy other chat...silly at times ...and naughty but it fills in time while we're waiting for something of interest to come up...we have made cyber friends and yes do go crazy at times...

I know once the work was finished on Bel I had a lot less to comment on as far as dub talk goes...I read and am into the social side of things...such as club, cruises and shows....I suppose that were I'm different to the guys...I'm not out in the shed playing with my cars...

I wait in hope.

B.

Ahm? Get a life please!!!

Be thankful to live in a country where such petty BS can get you really steamed. Hail the self righteous soldiers of schlock!

I tell you, there's more substance to 90% of the playground arguements involving my Class of 6 year old's than this thread.

And I thought I'd lost the plot. Thanks for giving me a new perspective guys (and you never thought that dribblebrain me would ever be the conservative one?)

(Edited by Stealth, you have been warned! Play nice!)

Ok, now ive got that out of my system, I wonder if this message will remain Mr/ Mrs Moderator?

.... I dont appologize for any offence taken. All these words are recorded in our 21st Century dictionarys, and for a reason. They have become to an extent socially acceptable. However 'Cunt' is on the border line, and still doesnt go down well at the dinner table - or bedroom for that matter.

Oh, and as much as VW's are facinating, i dont own one, nor do I wish to. I have visited this site purely for green room entertainment in between downloading porn. :party

[Edited on 23-4-2005 by Stealth]

Fair enough !

All that porn that you have been downloading has obviously dampened your imagination ???? as you can't seem to think of a name to go by ?????

Is it just me, or does a re-occurring theme of 'wetness' sour your whole existance here on this forum mscabrio. If you ask me, there is an underlying 'dry spell' of the bedroom variety that is bubbling on desperation.

How about you use your imagination to conjure up something more constructive, other than the mindless dribble that resembles the rear tail of a vw at idle.

Ps: ****** loves you.:kiss

Hehehehehehehehe,

Your a fiesty one hey ???????

Being wet is fun, that's why I like to play in WATER !!!!

Welcome to the forum, I think ur gunna be fun !!!!

Go on ...... tell us what's ya name ? and are u male or female ?????

P.S The tail end of my VW doesn't dribble !

PPS Do I know you ? I don't kiss strangers !!!!!!

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by mscabrio]

Thank you, much appreciated.
Im a male the last time I checked (Checks the inside of his trousers) Yep.

You can call me Ramellzee... dont ask, just look this figure up on the net. Iconoclast Panserisms is a good place to start :duh ( I do realise this is the face of confusion, and one your giving as you read this.)

I do have a genuine passion for cars, and some knowledge, but would like to know more about the humble VW.

Ps: From my experience, the note ommitted from the wind of the anus and the headers of a 1600 flat four are one and the same.:thumb

Sorry, I dont think we do know each other. If someone I knew was to 'Cruise Topless' beside me, that would be one drawn out trip, and needless to say they would be mighty tanned.

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by ******]

Well then Mr Ramellzee, you are right about the look of confusion !!!! I am too scared to look this word up, I don't know what I will find !

Glad that you enjoy your cars, so do we. As for VW's you will hear many different stories. If you don't want one that sounds like a big fart then buy a waterpumper (ie: a newie).


P.S what state do you come from ?

My curiosity got the better of me .....

Ramellzee is a VANDAL ..... A graffitti artist !!


I bet that your not even old enough to download the porn that you reckon you have !!!! I bet that your 13 years old and still live home with mummy and daddy. I bet that you still sleep with your teddy bear and have dreams of Jennifer Lopez kissing your Clearasil plastered face !!!!!!

And the winner is..... Sid- en - knee. I was just reading an interesting article on the new Lambourghini Mucielago and to much dismay found out that Lamborghini is owned by Volkswagen AG. Another to their list. When (and I stress when not if - only optimism here) I get the money that may be the closest I ever get to a "waterpumper".

And what a nice little waterpumper it will be.

And cruising topless is my car, I drive a cabriolet !!!!

I am not tanned, don't want skin cancer !

Ramellzee yes was a 'Graffiti Vandal' <--- not artist. This part of his life is not that great (he cant paint for shiet). His formula's and adaptations of the european alphabet and the 'arming' of individual letters was what i find interesting.

Yep, I have to admit I am only a pimply faced thirteen year old with Jennifer on my walls, and I am still innocent and have not yet developed a dirty mind...... Whats that mum? you want to drive my car?

Hmmmmmmmm ?????????

You sounded more like you belonged in Melbourne !

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by mscabrio]

****** wrote:And the winner is..... Sid- en - knee. I was just reading an interesting article on the new Lambourghini Mucielago and to much dismay found out that Lamborghini is owned by Volkswagen AG. Another to their list. When (and I stress when not if - only optimism here) I get the money that may be the closest I ever get to a "waterpumper".

And what a nice little waterpumper it will be.

I doubt that you will ever be able to afford one of these - unless you rob a bank or do something illegal .....

and BTW, you could do a LOT worse than a newbie

Well thats probably the aroma of the arts degree comming out in me 🙂 I do like Melbourne, and know some people there.

I havent yet had the urge to commit heinous crimes, or steal trams yet. Hence I enjoy life here at current.

The next time you see a lamboughini, and the driver doesnt have a hair peice, take viagra and have a mail order bride in the passenger seat, you can be guaranteed thats me 🙂

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by ******]

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by ******]

A 13 year old with an arts degree ????? You must be a boy genius or something. I didn't complete my degree until I was 20 !!!!!

P.S and when you see a blue new beetle cabrio with a fair skinned brunette girl driving you can probably guarantee it's me. I might even wave if ur lucky !

:sandrine

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by mscabrio]

Ha... Let me guess you studied Physics majoring in H20?

The other members probably want to get back to serious issues, such as there mental health so I may just leave it there.

Take it easy.

Ps: If I see a blue beetle, Ill be sure to wave in sympathy as they struggle to comprehend what just past them.

Na I'm a Nurse, so I studied the human body !
and seeing that the human body is mostly made of water, that is where my obession comes from !!!!


You would be priviledged to see my car in all it's plastic glory

P.S If ur over 18, then join the Bad Attitude section of this forum. I could really ENJOY talking to you !!!!!

😠

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by mscabrio]

****** wrote:(Edited by Stealth, you have been warned! Play nice!)

Ok, now ive got that out of my system, I wonder if this message will remain Mr/ Mrs Moderator?

.... I dont appologize for any offence taken. All these words are recorded in our 21st Century dictionarys, and for a reason. They have become to an extent socially acceptable. However 'Cunt' is on the border line, and still doesnt go down well at the dinner table - or bedroom for that matter.

Oh, and as much as VW's are facinating, i dont own one, nor do I wish to. I have visited this site purely for green room entertainment in between downloading porn. :party

[Edited on 23-4-2005 by Stealth]

....oh yeh ...who are you playing tricks on us poor innocent peoples....saying you're not interested in VW's in an almost instant out.....UNLESS you convert😀

I'm sure there are people who would like to think we have reached xxx rating in the BA forum...but I'm sure google is not bringing us up...YET

luckily, ramelzee, nun of us can spel in the bad attitud forrum ether :kiss

I miss Ramellzee already, he was FUN



:duh

I take pride in my spelin' Mr Leonard 😉

Im interested in vw's, but thats where it ends. Im also interested in owning a Murcielago or F40. (Oi! I hear you laughing)

Keep up the good work. You 'Dubber's' are a welcoming bunch - hang on you always were... Modern day hippies! I wonder if Volkswagen would attract back those baby boomers if they sold 'Tie Dye' curtains and slick rails with their latest models.

Enjoy the week

....I can feel 3/4 of the group cringe....not every one sees themselves as a hippy....a lot are into oldscool... n retro ...feel.... others are hippy.... some are just plain old fashioned :thumb

....a lot on here are into motor sport...so not hippy

I'm an old baby boomer....was a hippy, earth mother, alternate life styler.....but so wouldn't go the tie dye now....but yes it would be artistic/creative in some way......I'm not conservative by any means like a lot of my generation have become....they have become like their parents...forgotten what it like to have fun almost....they need to recapture some fun....be less uptight

:alien

RAMELLZEE,

for someone who claims to 'only' like dubbers, you are sure on your way to becoming a 'committed dubber'😀

I think you need need to have a look at the 'real' RAMELLZEE and come out of the closet..........:thumb Stop trying to hide that wanting desire to become your own modern day hippy and buy a VW.

Well Earth Mother Jen, im glad that there is no self denial, cause we all know what the majority of that generation were doing in there spare time :blush All that relaxation was reuined by children and then ahhh, they have grown up now too, (well not all) so its time to resurect the bright colours, daggy dancing, and dare I say it.....rocking combi!


Ok Bat69, its time to step out of the mainstream closet... Too long have I denied myself the pleasure of being behind the wheel of a genuine fart box. So come on, show everyone in here your generosity and give a fellow man your VeeDub. That cant be too much to ask.

(Hears him crying)----->because he knows what I will do to it.

....I didn't ask for that time to be resurected....it's was the fashion mogels.... No not all flower people were lazing around the whole time....No the children were not a burden...Yes they are all grown up...I still luv colour but wear 90% black...my dancing moves with the times...as I try to do

OK would luv a kombi to rock.....I don't have a Type 2 yet... :P

****** you seem to feel very sure about yourself in you little state of anonymity

It must feel so nice having some sort of power in your hands ... so easy to hide behind a fascade

Love It! Does my anonymity bug you? (Bad pun)

How such a small thing like six stars can evoke such a reaction. There is an underlying theory behind the six stars, but I believe in research.

Flower Power to you curtain wrangler.

.... f#!#! I luv solving mysteries too much....yes you do BUG me Mr Cool :P

Whats the go! got a bad boy have we!
Rob...

Mr RAMELLZEE,

Does it have something to do with a six pointed star, the star of david may be, or has it got something to do with the stars in the sky, cause if it has I think there were a few more then six last time I counted, or may be you just want to be a star. I know you want to join the millitary and beome a six star major:thumb

I just figured it out. It has fark all to do with anything............!

To find out stars probably aren't the answer. I wonder if the stars use the same IP as someone else... Only the logs will know.

Hey Rob n Matt how come you two guyz have more stars than me????!!!!

I was working on a theory but now it's totally stuffed up....:jesus

Star of David good one....

...he's too familiar with us....Helbus (6 letters/6 stars) is in short supply lately....Hmmmm anyone know if he went away for the long weekend???

He's too artriculate for Birchall....:P

OK Matt you're here...but ****** is not....possible...but then username star theory out d door if a star replaces a letter.... hmmmmm

...Robo....you're too nice and innocent to be part of this....I think....but no one is beyond suspicion :rudolf

p.s. no one leave the room!!

[Edited on 24-4-2005 by jenz58]

Yeah
Being violent to computer screens is not my style.
Rob...

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by Robo]

Jen, forget the stars.

I reckons the odds would be good enough to bet that there is more than one username associated with a particlar IP.

Either that or two people have pretty close turns of phrase and use of grammar.

Hmmmm.....the mystery remains.....but for how long???? 😉

i know this writing style. i don't know why but i do..it feels like someone on the forum. i just have to figure out who...

....same....zac down the bottom right corner of the post box do you see a green button 😉😉

zac...we'll crack this one

[Edited on 24-4-2005 by jenz58]

[Edited on 24-4-2005 by jenz58]

bat69 wrote:Mr RAMELLZEE,


I just figured it out. It has fark all to do with anything............!

Yes well I am enjoying all this attention. But really it is not necessary, you all know me 🙂

😀Enjoy the search Vee Double U's.

****** wrote: But really it is not necessary, you all know me 🙂

😀Enjoy the search Vee Double U's.

grrrrr i'm coming to get you....

I can guarantee it is not me. I have been away yes. I have done an alias on a forum before, and I will tell you I am a lot more creative than ******

In fact Jen I am a little bit hurt that you even implied me. I will be seeing you in BA about this.

..OK I was leaving no stone unturned...AND good we need some bad attitude in there :kiss

....p.s. did you n Fleur have a good time AWAY????

[Edited on 25-4-2005 by jenz58]

Andrew U have U2U. Tom

tom ...was u2u for password?? if so, send one to me and i can send it to u...

Actually, Tom found the backdoor. 🙂

Andrew