Renaming Bad Attitude

There has been some muttering about the name Bad Attitude. It has an historical reference, in case you're interested:

http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/rbarip.html

However, there have been a few other names suggested, and I'll toss a few in. Select one.

Andrew

The Misfits Club sounds too close to the Fiend Club - the home of the Misfits' fan otherwise known as fiends...

I don't think there's a place for it here. This is a vw site plain and simple.

Let someone start another forum somewhere else for this.

...I liked the Misfits Clubhouse....unaware of the fiends....

We have had none VW talk on the forum for ages now....it's just that this is a closed area of the forum so that people that don't like reading rubbish don't have to go there...it's really all very tongue in cheek and a bit of a laugh really amongst people

It is a pity that there has been such a reaction to it

OK this makes sense. If bad attitude goes, then so should all small talk and non VW related material. It all should be banned if BA goes.

BA will only go if the first option is > 50.0%

Andrew

i should stay but make it so it dosent come up in Topic Activity as it can detract from the normal posts 🙂

hothooha? lol thats a red rag..........:duh

I say get rid of it, then all the oddities which have come out of the woodwork will be unleashed back into the general forum. Now they have spent time in thier wilderness camp bonding and interbreeding, feeding the strays, the force will be strong..................and no password...:vader


Lets take a moment to ponder apon that thought.......... 😉

I have to admit that BA has often been hilarious, and quite liberating to say what you think without censorship, but I don't think that access to it is strict enough. The whole point of it I imagine is to reduce the risk of litigation, which it won't do if there are 14 and 15 year olds there.

It has also taken so much reading time away from the topic of VWs. There's no doubt that this is now a different place to when I first visited here a couple of years ago. I still read here for entertainment, but look on other forums for VW stuff. Sad? Or just natural change?

Perhaps it should just be called "Restricted Access", and make it so.

frenzix wrote:OK this makes sense. If bad attitude goes, then so should all small talk and non VW related material. It all should be banned if BA goes.

I think the issue is with swearing and unrestrained rudeness, not small talk, but it's true that a lot of small talk would be affected.

Also what $2.63 said^^^^ I'm not sure if it's necessary at all, albeit entertaining.

is there anyway to stop the subjects coming up in topic activites, without having to remind ppl about the whole cookies disable thing??

...I didn't realise that the topic subjects could be seem from the outside....topic activities....yes it could be good if they are not seen there if the BA attitude forum is to be only seen if a registered user of the area...it could be a bit tempting for younger ones to go in and look...and yes it is a bit in your face for people who don't agree with it being here

I don't look at topic activity so didn't notice...

If you use a PC which hasn't got the password for BA set, you can't see the BA topics in Today's Posts.

Unregistered: can't see any of our forums at all
Registered: can't see the BA topics at all
Registered with the BA password: can see the BA topics
Logged off: the XMB cookies are cleared, can't see BA

If you share a PC, this may allow the other person who shares your account to see them. There's also a place you can see them, and that's a very hit and miss affair, and that bug will be fixed when we install XMB 1.9.2.

Andrew

[Edited on 1-5-2005 by vanderaj]

Here's a test user I created, using a browser (Safari) which I don't often use. I cleared out the cookies and made sure that there were BA postings to be seen if you had them in the browser I do use. The top three posts at the moment are all BA posts.

Here's the image of the no-BA user topic activity. As you can see, there's no BA posts.

i think ba should stay,,its quite funny to read all the topics in there..if you dont like ba dont go there,,,but then in general chit chat i learnt heaps about vws but to me it seems if you arent in clickly little groups with people you get ignored as well.. and if you dont want your vw to be original you cop a bit of flack,,ive lost interest in this site the last few months,,

I think it should stay its really funny and i haven't seen a fight or even heated words on there yet it just comes down to you dont like it don't go in there know one is pushing you to go it there and find somthing more to winge about

This is STUPID!!! The majority of this forum is VW stuff.... after all that is why we all joined isn't it?? BA (or possibly the room formerly know as BA ) is just a little bit of fun on the side. As I can see it, nothing bad has come out of BA. Actually, if anything it has stopped all the BS that goes on in the other threads. I love reading all the shit in BA! And just cause there are some prudish people out there with their heads up their butts, who don't realise that there is more to talk about than just VWs and don't know how to have a bit of fun (albeit a little bit of naughty fun ) the rest of us who enjoy this place have to suffer. If you have been a member of the forum for a while and have met forum members and have made friends either face to face or over the net then of course we would want to talk about other things besides VWs. BA gives us 'outsiders' a place to be ourselves and not have to hold back in the general posts. I am totally pissed that some people get a bee in their bonnet and want to stuff things up for other people just because they don't think it's 'right' or 'PC' or we might hurt someones feelings. Get over it.

[Edited on 2/5/2005 by CoopGirl]

Oh... and I like the name HotHooha....

You also realise that the people that don't want BA on here and who happen to have the password (even tho they say they don't read it ) are all gonna vote to get rid of it..... bloody party poopers.

Get rid of it.

Although I don't often post in the chit chat and waffle threads (cos I'm anti social), I don't have a problem with people chatting about non VW related stuff.

I cannot see the relevance of viabrators etc on a VW forum. If BA was intended to allow robust discussion of (VW) topics using more adult language than is permitted in the general access areas, it's failed. BA seems to have descended into some kind of purile sex chat room. There is more than enough of this on the net if that's what you're into.

The whole forum seems to have moved away from VW topics. There are people posting who seem to have no interest in dubs, they just want to get a high post count or slag off other people. This used to be a really cool community of people with a common interest who would help each other. Now if you post a question or photo, you're more likely to cop abuse or criticism than get help.

(PS I would also consider toon sex to be pron, would you want your kids looking at it?)

PurpleT3 wrote:I cannot see the relevance of viabrators etc on a VW forum.

I agree.... that is why I don't generaly post in those threads or even read them some times and I think that is what people have to do. If you have been in BA and don't like it... delete your cookies and never go back. If you like it then stay... as I do... but I don't read or comment on threads that I don't find appealing to me.

BA plays fair because there are adults in there.


Bleatings by a few stuff it up for the many? Remove the few, they can go to www.bitchy.com and play there.

I cannot believe ppl expect to be treated fairly when they dont treat others the same, wanna bleat about how you are so unfairly treated, make it all personal??? well demand your money back and fuck off.

I joined to get some further education and exposure to vw stuff. If I want to talk shit with ppl I go elsewhere. What are we going to do dating next???

I would hate to lose the sale board etc, Could it be a view only, no replies system? Stop any crap thatway, wanna ask a question ring/u2u them.

Jim, dont throw out the whole barrel because of a few bad apples, chuck the apples.


kkk

If this forum was VW related topics only, that is if all non VW related posts were to be deleted and banned then this place would slowly die. There's only so many times that same questions can be answered, and only so many modifications people need info on or can share with others before it's all been done. I don't see what the problem is. If you don't like it don't read it and don't go there. simple. Yes this is a VW forum but it is also a community of people and if all we discussed on here was VW topics then it would be very boring very quickly.

I too just avoid the BA threads I know will go well beyond my comfort zone *shrugs* complaining will just fuel the fire..........:P

I can't see the problem with BA. If you don't like it don't go there. It's very simple.

Alot of people like it as there seems to be plenty of posts there.

Boozer has a good point and I'm with him.

man ive been waiting 1week for my password ,im missing out please can i have one sent all the right stuff waiting patiently

rob

Yes so my point is keep it ! It doesn't make sense to get rid of it.

it is pointless but a great stress relief...

phatrat you need to buy a splitty

glider69 wrote:man ive been waiting 1week for my password ,im missing out please can i have one sent all the right stuff waiting patiently

rob

Are you over 18? haha

...$2.63....REALL!!!! hehehehe 😉 :p

Boozer I agree.....if you've been on here a long time then you've heard a lot before and yes it can get boring.....BUT so many of us are dedicated to our dubbs and this forum IS part of our lives...we meet up at events when we can (and if we recognise each other??!!)

Being silly sometimes is just having fun and filling in time while we wait to post something more meaningful...I'm sure if I stopped starting to log I I might end up moving away from the community...other things might start filling my life... (OOPS...just scared myself!!! :cry)

frenzix wrote:phatrat you need to buy a splitty

you got a few...any spares??

...unofficial member

keep bad attitude alive, we may be a vw community, and the majority of threads and topics etc are based on vws, but there are times when we dont want to speak about dubs, yet stay within this community. why join another forum, or try to meet up in chat rooms etc, when we can contact each other here. we're all members here, theres no confusion, no fuss.

for those who want it gone, dont activate the password and youll never see it again. for those who want it to stay, vote.

i do agree that the name should be changed... bad attitude sorta doesnt fit and makes us look like the drug dealing bikie gang in the corner of the smoke ridden bar (not that avd is a smoke ridden bikie bar) i sorta like the late night dubbers club... its a huge ego trip

in the imortal words of the 80's "RELAX..."

why do people get so uptight about BA? you say its turned into a puerile sex forum...
well... to that i say, theres many porn mags at my newsagent next to the car/vw mags... they are there, but i dont read them... and i dont whinge and complain when other people do, or when you do.
BA is there, but you dont need to read it, so dont whinge and complain when other people do.

there are heaps of threads in main forum that i could have gotten uptight about in the past few years (think half naked plastic women posing in front of poor innocent vw's) but i just refused to read them, or read them once and walked away... didnt complain that others wanted to read them.
so i dont see the difference here.

if BA goes, (which i think the majority voting in this thread will want to see) and the bitching and whinging starts again on general chit chat (which im sure it will), then its time i took a holiday away from veedubbers in general.

sorry peoples, but people taking offence to practically everything has just made this forum alot less interesting.

Starbug ... exactly... people just need to chill a bit more and not get so uptight ...

Do they know they may be shortening their own lives by getting this way....and this is only their 'hobby' site...imagine what they would get like with serious issues or maybe they don't give a shit??:duh

I'm surprised at the voting patterns - no change. Considering how vocal some are, it's a good thing I decided to use a poll rather than just react to a couple of suggestions.

I'll make (or not make) the change this coming Sunday evening. Keep on voting.

Andrew

this is my opinion..

(and please note i am NOT (surprisingly) in the bad attitude forum.)

everything has it's place on the internet. you can go to sites for porn, sites for music, and sites for software.

this is a vw site..not only a site, but a community. (in my opinion) the purpose of the bad attitude forum was so that it didn't take away from the rest of the vw scene. it's doing it's job, and helping to get rid of some of the more riské posts from the "general" section of the forum.

that's why it was created, that's why it is there. Make use of it.

Keep it guys(and gals).

i voted, no rename, it's serves its purpose!'

Zac

Just my 2 cents worth... I finally checked out BA and I think it's all just a bit of fun. Not all my style, but neither are baha's (sorry 🙂 )It would be nice to see more VW stuff on there but maybe this will come as the novelty wears off. Anyway, each to their own and if I decide I don't like it, I turn it off!

Maybe we should issue 'choose life' T-shirts to those frequent bleaters so they can go and get a life 😉


kkk

Starbug wrote:in the imortal words of the 80's "RELAX..."

why do people get so uptight about BA? you say its turned into a puerile sex forum...
well... to that i say, theres many porn mags at my newsagent next to the car/vw mags... they are there, but i dont read them... and i dont whinge and complain when other people do, or when you do.
BA is there, but you dont need to read it, so dont whinge and complain when other people do.

there are heaps of threads in main forum that i could have gotten uptight about in the past few years (think half naked plastic women posing in front of poor innocent vw's) but i just refused to read them, or read them once and walked away... didnt complain that others wanted to read them.
so i dont see the difference here.

if BA goes, (which i think the majority voting in this thread will want to see) and the bitching and whinging starts again on general chit chat (which im sure it will), then its time i took a holiday away from veedubbers in general.

sorry peoples, but people taking offence to practically everything has just made this forum alot less interesting.

how about 'bitchin here' or is that to naughty? :thumb

The argument that there are already other places on the net to talk about such topics is useless. There were many many other VW forums on the net before this one came along. I want to know what the anti BA's are scared of. If your homophobic you dont go to a gay bar do ya? No, you just stay away and forget it is there. So if you dont like BA... simply stay away!

This debate reminds me of when my little suburb gained an adult shop. Months of debate in the local paper about how it was going to draw in prostitutes, drug users, paedophiles, anything short of armageddon. After it had been open for a month people forgot about it and went on with their lives.

I think the name is wrong, but dont have an alternative. Restricted Area of Ill Repute seems more appropriate at the moment. Just use a descriptive term for it, not something trendy or catchy. That way the next person who clicks on the link and then complains can be belted around the head with their own mouse.

The way I see it is...if you want to talk about VW's only on this site then that is your choice, but not all of us want to do that, this is a community after all, some of us want to talk about other stuff sometimes, and just interact with other people.

If you don't go to the BA forum what does it matter if other people do? Why does the fun have to be ruined for everyone else because?

give me a look at it then i'll vote 🙂

...skewy talk about slow lol

Where have you been mate???😀

OK...I know better things to be doing with you time...:thumb

I don't give a toss:P, you could call it "fluffy's house fark" or "I've had a bad day so I'll dish it out in here"
...sorry couldn't help myself, I don't use it as there is nuffin 4 sale in there.

As "Keep it as is" won, so no renaming of Bad Attitude will take place.

On the matter of deleting the forum, the votes were:

Delete the forum: 25.42%
Other options: 74.58%

Therefore, by overwhelming majority, the forum stays.

Andrew

I do not see the difficulty in ignoring it. I dont even notice it, not that i am against it, i just cant be stuffed getting the password. I spend enough time keeping up with all the other bits and pieces on this site that i want to view. Sort of a personal filter, really not a hard thing to do, we should all try it! 😎 and then be done with all this futile banter😠

yeah a bit slow Jenz i know 🙂
i been working lots mate, u still working in that lane ? i'll drop in soon !

i spoze its coz i'm out there creating the story's u all be talking about in there
😉

From an outsiders POV, but also one who administrates a very busy forum. Id say it needs to stay. I havent even seen any threads in the forum but I dont really need to to understand how important it is for long term members.

We have had a very similar issue some up recently, where long term members were being made to feel bad for wanting to to just basicly crap on with general idle talk that was totally OT for the forums as a whole. We have also hit the 2.5 yr mark, so it apears it may be a general growth thing.
Forums will change and members will move on but there will always be a tighter group at its centre.

As forums grow bigger and become more busy it appears that there is a cliquey group of members. Well really things have just stayed the same and the forum has grown around them. These members are a vital part of the forums.

Its very important to remember that the forums would not be what they are today if these people were not the tight knit group they are. That group can gradualy change over time, but still remians the basis and "fuel" if you like of the forums. To these people the forums are not just a place to visit to talk about - in this case VW's- its a big part of their lives, so yeah ther aspects of their lives are going to spill into the forums. This is what makes places like this REAL.

[Edited on 23/5/2005 by Marrs_7]