8 pounds of boost, small quiet 2.5 inch exhaust, pod filter, Microtech computer. The rest stock. My fellow Pastizzi eater Nathan Bajda played with the computer & it now comes on boost at 2650rpm & u can hear it chirping the tyres in 2nd gear in the dry on the flat when it comes on boost.
It's quite an exciting ride.
Nathan said with a 3 inch exhaust & 10 pounds boost it may crack 220hp plus at the wheels. But this is more than enough for me!! For now. Could also safely add more timing on boost as well, conservative has been my moto so far.
145.7kw @ the wheels.
regards
Jak
saw you the other day, turning onto manns road. looked and sounded sweet mate....
gayanne ·
Isnt it a simple basic motor ,cheap thrills ,cost half the price of anything else,uses only 4 plugs,has hp to give a hard on for the rest of your life.😀😀😀😀go skaife.JVLRacing
matara ·
Wow thats impressive:-
145 kiloWatts = 194.448203 horsepower
I bet it would cost three times as much to get that hp out of a VW block!
How much did you have to move the gearbox forward Jak? What box are you using?
Cheers
Steve
71superbug ·
i think i read somewhere that he is using a standard L bug box?
Anthony
boof2332 ·
I was at the dyno today....it sounds so quiet at idle and low revs, kinda howls and whistles at 6k though!
Jak was leaning through one window telling the guy not to tune it up much as it is his daily driver...I'm telling him to up the boost and tune the hell out of it...with 10 or 12 pound and all the maps tweaked it would have easy another 25kw.
You do not want to let all the ponies gallop from the stable at once!
Matt
Jak Rizzo ·
I'm running a standard L-bug gearbox moved forward 2 inches.
I said to Nathan, 'I only take it to 5500rpm so don't bother going much past there' He just rolled his eyes at me & said OK, on the first run he dropped off at 5500rpm & it made 125kw @ the wheels.
'It wants to rev, I can feel it' So the next few runs he took it all the way to 7000rpm & it still didnt' drop off in power.
I'm wrapped! We then spent an hour going through all the maps for cruise at 60km, 80km , 100km & 120km adjusting the fuel for economy off boost.
U could feel the difference just leaning against the car when something was changed.
It was well worth the effort.
regards
Jak
ruckus ·
Aw man I can feel myself getting sucked in to the subie fold! Nice work Jak
Baja Wes ·
I'm amazed at that torque curve, it's so flat. A good indication of a well breathing well set-up engine.
nice work Jak. The conservative is a good moto. It's less expensive and heart breaking than breaking stuff
EgeWorks ·
I'm encouraged! Now I just need to start saving🙂
VWCOOL ·
Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Jak Rizzo ·
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
I can live with other peoples terminology.
Jak
Andy42 ·
Man I am hanging out to see how well me buggy goes with the sti motor. Like the flat torque curve you got it must be bloody nice to drive.
56astro ·
Well done Jak.
We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.
If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................
maybe!
Baja Wes ·
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah twin webers are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.
But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?
Jak,
By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.
Wes
fullnoise ·
The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.
Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.
I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.
Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.
Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.
Baldy67 ·
well done jak........:thumb
VWCOOL ·
Baja Wes wrote:
VWCOOL wrote:Yeah engine transplants are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah twin webers are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
Yeah scat cranks and mahle pistons are nice...😉 ... but it isn't a VW any more
I guess it depends on where you draw the line. At what point does it stop becoming a VW? If it looks like a VW it's a VW.
But we don't want to get off topic here. So what was the topic anyway?
Jak,
By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.
Wes
yeah blah blah blah.. Some of you blokes have thin skins!
Err..12-something... 4-something... Real good calculations, Wez! Sure you didn't just pluck those figures out of thin air?!
[Edited on 6/5/2005 by VWCOOL]
Baja Wes ·
The acceleration times vary alot depending on the specifics of Jak's car that I don't know.
You obviously don't know me very well, I don't pull numbers out of thin air.
VWCOOL ·
I know you'd be smarter than to say "12-something". That's what a ricer would say😉
Jak Rizzo ·
56astro wrote:Well done Jak.
We've had our differences, but I genuinely mean it when I say you must be very pleased and proud of what you have achieved. I admire the short time it took to do the conversion. I am sure there will be a few more converts, knowing that yours has turned out so well.
If I didn't have an Oval, mmmmm ..........................
maybe!
Yes I am proud Steve, Disassociation never felt so good!:kiss
boof2332 ·
Nice work Wes...hard to believe those figures when you think your car is quick doing 15's. Even harder when Jaks conversion cost $4000 not $10k+.
Hey doesnt VW own the design rights to the ej20t?
So it is still a vw after all.
Matt
Jak Rizzo ·
Jak,
By my calculations you should be looking at 12 something second 1/4 mile times and 0-100kph in 4 something seconds. It must be fun to drive.
Wes
I think high 13 Wes, with a high mph. I like to be conservative & have a surprize at the end.!
Oh & my car weighs 1000kg now.
regards
Jak
PS thanks for doing that!
Jak Rizzo ·
fullnoise wrote:The conversion looks like a lot of work and I swear Jak should be an engineer and not an architect.
Imagine the R & D work trying to get that kind of a torque curve and that much horsepower out of a beetle engine. Then the conversion doesn't look that big.
I'm disappointed that Jak didn't do a few tweeks just to hit the majic 200 hp mark. It's so close.
Well done Jak. I think you should have a Maltese Star on your sig line.
Congrats to Pastitzi (sp?) Racing and Cable Tie Engineering.
Yes my friend, here at Pastizzi Racing & Cable Tie Engineering we don't discriminate, from single plug 1941's to wrx conversions.
It's all happening!
As for the Maltese cross, they're like Oakley Stickers these days, every fukwits got one!
Jak
[Edited on 6/5/2005 by Jak Rizzo]
squizy ·
Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.
gayanne ·
Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing
Baja Wes ·
1000kg with or without the driver?
1000kg + driver will push you into the 13's, correct.
I don't think the aerodynamic figures are quite right though, because it is predicting a top speed of 205kph. VW's are pretty unaerodynamic though. The Cd figure I have is I think for an early standard beetle, yours would be better I guess.
Thats pretty much spot on Wes, probably 1070kg with me , full tank of fuel & the stereo on!
regards
Jak
VWCOOL ·
squizy wrote:Damn fine result Jak. Now to get down to Terrigal on a Thursday night and shut the ricers up.
lol... Top idea!
VWCOOL ·
gayanne wrote:Matt that is correct,its still a vw design all German design motor. The Patient design was given to Japan on clauses that they changed it from a standard design to a upgraded steriod motor to what we see today.(This is fact not fiction)JVLRacing
What does that all mean?
subaruboxer ·
Hi Jak,
nice torque curve! What an EJ 20 T do you have installed, all Wrx Impreza engines I know are over 200 HP strong ? Why is it third gear?
Jörg
Jak Rizzo wrote:8 pounds of boost, small quiet 2.5 inch exhaust, pod filter, Microtech computer. The rest stock. My fellow Pastizzi eater Nathan Bajda played with the computer & it now comes on boost at 2650rpm & u can hear it chirping the tyres in 2nd gear in the dry on the flat when it comes on boost.
It's quite an exciting ride.
Nathan said with a 3 inch exhaust & 10 pounds boost it may crack 220hp plus at the wheels. But this is more than enough for me!! For now. Could also safely add more timing on boost as well, conservative has been my moto so far.
145.7kw @ the wheels.
regards
Jak
subaruboxer wrote:Hi Jak,
nice torque curve! What an EJ 20 T do you have installed, all Wrx Impreza engines I know are over 200 HP strong ? Why is it third gear?
Jörg
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The 195hp is at the wheels, not the flywheel, it's done in third gear as thats just the way it is done in Australia on Dyno Dynamics dynos. Also I have found that Aussie dyno figures are a little more realistic than the rest of the world.
& sure there are more powerful wrx engines out there, but if u can safely handle more than 200hp at the wheels then u are a better driver then me, which wouldnt be hard!
regards
Jak
sorry I forgot the difference is engine dyno and chassis dyno. You have around 260 HP at the flywheel, that is a lot for the old bug. I checked a book and it was said that there is difference of about 30 percent in the two figures. I asked because I am going to put my EJ 22 bug on the dyno in a few days. Any advice for a dyno first timer?
Thanks Jörg
[Edited on 12-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
Jak Rizzo ·
Just make sure your tuner knows what he is doing & think of the dyno as a tuning tool not for bragging rights, Ive heard some horror stories about dynoes.
regards
Jak
exwrx ·
The 30% driveline loss is a rule of thumb. The wrx with its awd system is probably higher. I would imagine a beetle would be more efficient in this regard.
In relation to your dyno experience, make sure your tuner is familiar with subaru engines and listens for pinging. At the first sign of this or any other noises, they should shut it down immediately.
subaruboxer wrote:Hi Jak,
sorry I forgot the difference is engine dyno and chassis dyno. You have around 260 HP at the flywheel, that is a lot for the old bug. I checked a book and it was said that there is difference of about 30 percent in the two figures. I asked because I am going to put my EJ 22 bug on the dyno in a few days. Any advice for a dyno first timer?
Thanks Jörg
[Edited on 12-5-2005 by subaruboxer]
[Edited on 13/5/2005 by exwrx]
NigeType3 ·
Stoked for ya bud
Sounds like its the shiznit
Baja Wes ·
exwrx wrote:The 30% driveline loss is a rule of thumb. The wrx with its awd system is probably higher. I would imagine a beetle would be more efficient in this regard.
30% is probably a bit high.
I think most modern cars are around the 17% loss, most dyno tuners use that as a rule of thumb.
Your right AWD's are worse.
Jak Rizzo ·
As an example, I've seen standard STI's off the showroom floor with around 140kw at the wheels. Thats less than what I have. The 4wd must soak an enormous amount of power.
Nathan my dyno tuner commented that it mine the power quite effortlessly, as though the gearbox wasn't holding it back at all.
regards
Jak
57kombi ·
Have you do a write up on this coversion.
Just thinking aloud(again).
What would it take to put one in a split.
Is the 1303 gearbox standard.
What cooling are you running, where is the rad??
I think I might be posting a bit on here in the future?????