Oran Pk Going Going Gone · Aussieveedubbers

jvl054 · 10 Jul 2005, 4:19 pm

Well its official,Oran Pk Raceway is packing up in 3 years.....Whats your opinion on this?....We lost a great track of Amaroo years ago to other development....Will ther be another track built to replace Oran PK?JVLRacing

kombikim · 10 Jul 2005, 4:29 pm

I think it is sad, all circuits are unique, but Oran Park was my favourite, many happy memories.

pod · 10 Jul 2005, 4:29 pm

of course not ,just the price of land and urban sprawl taking over👎👎

1303Steve · 10 Jul 2005, 4:53 pm

Hi

Nice track, lots of runoff, damn shame.

Steve

pete wood · 10 Jul 2005, 9:28 pm

what the? Why?

lisian · 10 Jul 2005, 11:32 pm

Apparently there is a new track to be built by the same owner of Oran Park.Hence the reason for the new garages being demountables.But like every piece of gossip it won't be true unless we're driving on it.:thumb

squizy · 11 Jul 2005, 9:54 am

It's a sad day when things like this happen. Same for Amaroo. Why don't they just sell off that great big empty, shell ridden block called Holsworthy, and relocate that instead? Surely moving this sort of installation bush would be worthwhile?

jvl054 · 11 Jul 2005, 11:40 am

Yeh! i heard the owner is going to build another track basically the same time of demolishment of Oran Pk. But where is this going to happen if Sydney is still looking for more urban sprawl.JVLRacing

karmen · 11 Jul 2005, 11:48 am

ANYONE KNOW A VW GUY FROM THE LATE 60s who had a shed behind Parra David Jones Store

i used to buy bits off him FOR MY 55 OVAL .HE USED TO RACE AT ORAN PARK
dont know his name now. was areal pioneer in vws and may be say 60+ now

blutopless2 · 11 Jul 2005, 12:11 pm

its a shame to see racetracks sold up just in the name of development for housing etc... relocation is not really that good either as they complain about the attendance if it is too far to travel to and a hassle to get there. People complain about racetracks that they live near, but forget that the racetrack was probably there 20 years before housing. Similar thing with speedway racing. Tracks disappear because of housing.

jvl054 · 11 Jul 2005, 12:28 pm

blutopless2 wrote:its a shame to see racetracks sold up just in the name of development for housing etc... relocation is not really that good either as they complain about the attendance if it is too far to travel to and a hassle to get there. People complain about racetracks that they live near, but forget that the racetrack was probably there 20 years before housing. Similar thing with speedway racing. Tracks disappear because of housing.

.......YEP Liverpool was agreat speedway track no doudt:thumb...It sounds like Parramatta track could be as well for relocation!!!:oJVLRacingnn[ Edited on 11/7/2005 by jvl054 ]

fullnoise · 11 Jul 2005, 5:12 pm

Amaroo was the best spectator track. When that was closed Oran Park became the best spectator track. Now that's going to close I wouldn't bother leaving the television to see the motor racing.

Eastern creek is a lot safer than Amaroo and Oran Park but it's horrible as a spectator.

If the owner of Oran Park wants to build a new track it's got to have undulations to make the driving exciting and enough vantage points so spectators can see at least 80% of the track.

CYA CT

Robo · 11 Jul 2005, 5:21 pm

Remember Castlereagh? Catalina raceway, and even old Mt Druitt. all gone the way of the developer! their taking all the fun out of our live's, no wonder young kids have to drag and race their cars & bikes on the street!
Rob...

jvl054 · 11 Jul 2005, 5:43 pm

Robo wrote:Remember Castlereagh? Catalina raceway, and even old Mt Druitt. all gone the way of the developer! their taking all the fun out of our live's, no wonder young kids have to drag and race their cars & bikes on the street!
Rob...

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Yeh,Dad use to tell me they use to race the Old Brick Yard Silverwater wher a few drag racers lost ther lives.This use to be apopular racing venue for oldt timers 60s 70s.Police banned that one.JVLRacing

1303Steve · 11 Jul 2005, 5:50 pm

Hi John

That was brikkies also known as Underwood Road, I must be old because used to race my yellow bug their. Brikkies was featured in the movie, the FJ Holden.

Steve

jvl054 · 11 Jul 2005, 6:06 pm

1303Steve wrote:Hi John

That was brikkies also known as Underwood Road, I must be old because used to race my yellow bug their. Brikkies was featured in the movie, the FJ Holden.

Steve

Thats it Steve! Dad and my Uncle use drag a old FE Holden.JVLRacing

Robo · 11 Jul 2005, 6:07 pm

I used to work at CSR Rhode's. I used to go up the reactor tower with a pair of binoculars we had from the workshop and watch them racing on underwood road at night when I was on nightshift! good free entertainment! Another unofficial drag strip was out on Heathcote road, this was popular in the 50's, old Triumph tiger 100's and 110's, BSA's Nortons and Iindians. There was another place around Botany out near the oil refinery's, I only went there once in the late 70's. Good old days those!
Rob...nn[ Edited on 11-7-2005 by Robo ]

jvl054 · 11 Jul 2005, 6:20 pm

Steve & Robo, Was the concrete strip with skid pad at Oran Pk suppose to be a drag strip originally?....What i heard was the slab was moving around so they canned it is that true? JVLRacing

Robo · 11 Jul 2005, 6:29 pm

Not sure about that one! They used to have a skid pan at St Ive's police driver training complex, don't know if thats still there!
Rob...

bat69 · 11 Jul 2005, 7:02 pm

A new track at badgerys creek is supposed to be the new site. On the land that was set aside for the 'new' sydney airport. Or so I heard..

jvl054 · 12 Jul 2005, 9:52 am

bat69,The info i have is the same developer from Oran Pk has plans in discussion about a new track.It could be badgerys creek as the new site....JVLRacing

Kombi_Rescue · 12 Jul 2005, 8:21 pm

I rent some space at amaroo park and spoke to the original owners who told me the sad story behind amaroo.Karl's father built amaroo and tried to set up his own private club/ race track...he lost money and one day sublet it to the singer car club who ran an event and made heaps..this is where the ARDC[australian racing drivers club]stepped in and took out a 20 lease withan option to buy..guess what 2 years before termination whilst land prices in this area started to rise the ardc exercised its right bought and then sold out to developers for 2.4 mil[ardc was in economic meltdown by then] area 70 acres...they in turn sold five acre blocks within 12mths between400-750k...work the math and you will soon see why it was sold....most of the original owners around amaroo lived with the understanding that noise was part of the landscape..still today you can see many parts of the old track..old machinery bearing the amaroo past..sob sob sob..sad to see oran travell down the same road cheers steve

jvl054 · 12 Jul 2005, 9:59 pm

Hi rhddlxbd Steve,:jesus do you think you could send some photos of the old memorys bearing amaroo track of what it looks like now?....I bet you not many people know that story!!!!Thanks JVLRacing

MikeM · 13 Jul 2005, 9:53 am

Reminds me of the story of lakeside in QLD. But it didn't get sold off, it got closed down and then heritage listed. All because the local residents complained about the noise.

I don't get it. the track was there all along, you buy near a race track, you have to expect noise :duh

http://www.maxlink.com.au/pinerivers/lakeside.htm
http://www.savelakeside.org/
http://www.lakesideraceway.com/

BiX · 13 Jul 2005, 10:27 am

Yeah its a very sad fact about ppl, it is like ppl who move into places in the valley (brissy) and then start complaining about noise. fair enough if the track was built after you got there, but it should be part of your due dilligence. ( i have done these for many developers, and these are the things a good consultant should also cover). I think the law and the way the council deals with these complaints is a amjor problem, as they will always seem to take the residents side. Hopefull with the new plan for Se qld, this thing should be a thing of the apst, as we will know where the extents of development will be for the next 30 years at least and can plan to have tracks and similar venues located away from major population centres.

jvl054 · 13 Jul 2005, 1:38 pm

MikeM wrote:Reminds me of the story of lakeside in QLD. But it didn't get sold off, it got closed down and then heritage listed. All because the local residents complained about the noise.

I don't get it. the track was there all along, you buy near a race track, you have to expect noise :duh

http://www.maxlink.com.au/pinerivers/lakeside.htm
http://www.savelakeside.org/
http://www.lakesideraceway.com/

Nice track Mike.When i was crewing for the supertourers all the drivers loved that track.:thumbJVLRacing

Craig Torrens · 13 Jul 2005, 2:24 pm

jvl054 wrote:
MikeM wrote:Nice track Mike.When i was crewing for the supertourers all the drivers loved that track.:thumbJVLRacing
Crewing..................what cleaning their windows.

jvl054 · 13 Jul 2005, 8:35 pm

Craig Torrens wrote:
jvl054 wrote:
MikeM wrote:Nice track Mike.When i was crewing for the supertourers all the drivers loved that track.:thumbJVLRacing
Crewing..................what cleaning their windows.
:P:P:P:PYou crack me up!!!!!(The chip still gets bigger between your ears Craig)JVLRacingnn[ Edited on 13/7/2005 by jvl054 ]

Kombi_Rescue · 13 Jul 2005, 8:55 pm

jvl i will try and grab a couple of shots as it looks today..there is an old thames trader with amaroo raceway in faded patina sitting out back cheers steve

jvl054 · 13 Jul 2005, 9:17 pm

rhddlxbd wrote:jvl i will try and grab a couple of shots as it looks today..there is an old thames trader with amaroo raceway in faded patina sitting out back cheers steve

Thanks Steve.JVLRacing

1303Steve · 13 Jul 2005, 9:59 pm

jvl054 wrote:Steve & Robo, Was the concrete strip with skid pad at Oran Pk suppose to be a drag strip originally?....What i heard was the slab was moving around so they canned it is that true? JVLRacing

Hi

I think plan was that the strip was much closer than that pad, near the 4WD area. Its actually a mine subsidence area around, could get scary. I doubt if another track will be built at Badgerys Creek, being so close to Eastern Creek.

Steve

jvl054 · 18 Jul 2005, 11:07 pm

So what do you all think whats going to happen with all those new sheds built at Oran Pk? To me sounds alot of money going up in smoke!!!!:oJVLRacing

Alex Holzl · 20 Jul 2005, 8:28 am

maybe they will sell them or bring them to the new track...

jvl054 · 8 Aug 2005, 10:20 pm

Alex Holzl wrote:maybe they will sell them or bring them to the new track...

Maybe we can use Mortlake Speedway...all they close that down to!JVLRacing

jvl054 · 14 Aug 2005, 3:42 pm

Well,it was brought up on V8 supercars buy Russell Ingall!!!where will the next Sydney track be built?Does anybody know?JVLRacing:o

waltermitty · 14 Aug 2005, 3:48 pm

When I was at V force the other day I was shocked to learn that Mortlake Speedway has been developed! Where will it stop?
Mitchl

jvl054 · 19 Aug 2005, 3:41 pm

Hi Gentlemen,Just bought Motorsport news mag...Here is 2 paragraphs of our Sydney tracks under Scruitineer.....AVESCO shouldnt assume that Oran Pks fans will go to homebush,or any street race.If they dont go to Estern Creek,then why would they fork out more cash and travel even further to see even less on track action? With Eastern Creek continuing to FAIL,and Oran Pk living on its last legs due to housing developments,Sydney needs a new track,butthe success of it will depend on where its is positioned....Written by Grant Rowley motor mouth....What do you think of these comments?..its all coming down to urban sprawl.JVLRacingnn[ Edited on 19/8/2005 by jvl054 ]

sax · 19 Aug 2005, 8:16 pm

How is eastern creek failing?

jvl054 · 19 Aug 2005, 11:38 pm

sax wrote:How is eastern creek failing?

Hi Sax,Yep the comment made is......AVESCO and the V8 serious is very competitive as there are other things to see and do.Rugby league is the most recognised sport in the city with average crowd attndance 15000.....:puke.....JVLRacing

Craig Torrens · 20 Aug 2005, 12:09 am

who cares...............more money in housing developments:P

jvl054 · 20 Aug 2005, 12:31 am

What Mr Motor mouth is saying is Oran Pk makes more money then Eastern Cr.....JVLRacing

jvl054 · 12 Sep 2005, 10:47 pm

No V8 Supercars for Eastern CR next year!!!!06 .....Barain Overseas race instead.Eastern CR not making enought money$$$$JVLRacing:o:jesus

pete wood · 13 Sep 2005, 4:48 pm

Originally posted by jvl054,
No V8 Supercars for Eastern CR next year!!!!06 .....Barain Overseas race instead.Eastern CR not making enought money$$$$JVLRacing:o:jesus

My mate is seriously spewing about that. It's the only round he can get to. You have to ask what they were thinking, I mean Eastern Ck is the circuit closest to a city, and that city is the largest in Oz. I don't have much time for supercars, I think they are highly overated, but even still this decision makes no sense what so ever. They've taken the V8s out prime bogun country and sent them where? Barrain, yeah that's a good idea. NOT! Still I spose that's the one place where oil is cheap enough to justify owining a V8. :duh

nn[ Edited on 13-9-2005 by pete wood ]

jvl054 · 13 Sep 2005, 7:53 pm

Yep crowds are down at Eastern Cr....and Oran Pk crowds are bigger...Its got me f...ed taking a fast track out of action:jesusJVLRacing