Splits are NOT rare

I just thought I would start this one as there are quite a few people who think that split vans are rare.
Here is why I think they are not.
1. tens of thousands of them were made.
2.Most VW enthusiasts know of at least one in a paddock or shed somewhere.
3.They only seem rare as you dont see that many on the road, due to the fact that they cost a hell of a lot to restore.
4.I know of 7 splits including two 13 window deluxes within half an hours drive of my house, the owners wont sell them and they will end up rotting away. I also know of 4 that are owned by VW enthusiasts including 2 barn door standard kombis and they are not being restored as yet(sorry I think one of the barnies has been started)
5. If they are that rare how come most can be bought(unrestored ) for under $2000??
6. Yes deluxes are rare and also Barnys as they were never made here and had to be imported but standard kombis are not rare.

Cheers
Dave

dave do you have one 😏

I was waiting for that,
I might have?
and I did have?

Cheers
Dave

& you will have soon👍

Or I might already have????
Cheers
Dave

good original splits are rare in proportion to the crap out there. Yes you can get a split for less than $2000.00 - getting one for less than $2k means you'll blow ten times that fixing it at a shop, harlf arsed resotrations and patched splits are common, great restos - tend to be snug in the garage of owners that have the scars to show.

I agree, just because it's a split don't mean its rare, but a good original one that you can finish in your lifetime without going broke or getting divorsed - a different matter.

i have been bitten by the bug & have 3 to do as can beseen in my
signature.
im looking at $2000.00 at least to get restored, not silly the first is in now & its been promised to my better halve which allows me a free
reign after that.
you know i bought her a boat once for her b/day then a very good rod & reel for moms day heh heh heh
no not silly at all,risking decapitation but not silly.

is that 2000 or 20000? :o

I have looked at over 30+ splits here in S.A and ALL of them needed rust repair work, at the minimum they needed both inner and outer sills, outriggers, jacking points, center chassis section.
So why would you spend more than $2000 on any one of them. I mean the original purchase price.
I have seen ones that have had a supposed resto and you look at the sills or outriggers and they are rusty but have a nice paint job.
Why would you buy one of these for $7000+when you will still have to do the same work as you would to one that costs $2000, the paint will need redoing anyway.

Again they are not rare, its just that they cost too much to restore.

I also cant see the point in doing a rat one.
If you were going to drive it safetly you would still need to do the rust repairs and then you would loose the original paint after doing the sills.??

Its like that St George van at the Sydney Nationals, you will never see that on the road legally in the condition it was, it might have taken a trophy as best rat but why when it wasnt even regoed???
That means anyone can find a piece of crap and put some wheels on it, trailer it to a show and enter best rat??

Cheers
Davenn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by 57kombi ]

woops $20000.00

Rats ARE cool, and are a sub-culture all of their own. Rats are often a lifestyle thing, and the look is usually part of the owners wider interests. As long as the owners gets the max enjoyment from the time they spend working on it, driving it or the social scene that they plug into with it I guess.

The St George van is beyond repair and will never be on the road, simple as that. Why not enjoy it, better that than no-one ever seeing it coz it went to sims.
I know I enjoyed it, and a lot of others did too.

Hey 57kombi if you know of that many splitties floating around, share the wealth. I very rearly see them floating around, as you said and the people that have them tent to hang onto them.

Thats my veiw.

57kombi wrote:I have looked at over 30+ splits here in S.A and ALL of them needed rust repair work, at the minimum they needed both inner and outer sills, outriggers, jacking points, center chassis section.
So why would you spend more than $2000 on any one of them.
I have seen ones that have had a supposed resto and you look at the sills or outriggers and they are rusty but have a nice paint job.
Why would you buy one of these for $7000+when you will still have to do the same work as you would to one that costs $2000, the paint will need redoing anyway.

Again they are not rare, its just that they cost too much to restore.

I also cant see the point in doing a rat one.
If you were going to drive it safetly you would still need to do the rust repairs and then you would loose the original paint after doing the sills.??

Its like that St George van at the Sydney Nationals, you will never see that on the road legally in the condition it was, it might have taken a trophy as best rat but why when it wasnt even regoed???
That means anyone can find a piece of crap and put some wheels on it, trailer it to a show and enter best rat??

Cheers

i don't think the st george will ever be regoed ,its just a form of art nothing more.
but i agree i paid more then i should for mine , if i had my time again i would have bought a $1000 rust bucket .
not that i dont love her now.:kiss
bob

nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by kombibob ]

Also, why spend more than 2k on a resto project? - well if the thing is solid and original then you might pay say 5k for it, but then only 10k on rust, so save 5k.

Rare I said. My mother in-law(who is from another era)replied;'there like arseholes', Everyone has one.. Or had one.
Why are these people who have one unwilling to sell ?.
Easy, they have formed a bond with the thing. Simple.
These Vehicles contain the aspirations of and craftsmanship of a Potent cumulative point of civilisation. The effort is evident to me every time I engage with a kafer or bulli.
Im young enough to recall the recovery of american steel from creek beds from farms , that were taken for free and now fetch heaps.
Kombi's Are a Passion and start at 2000 for a project, if you can demonstrate to the owner your keen,to take care of there history.and bring there friend back to life.

As I said the ones I know of around Adelaide will not sell them, they will end up rotting away.
I have approached one guy who has one of the 13 deluxe's every year for the last 5 and he will not sell it,.
One guy has 2 down the side of his house with tin on the roofs, they have now started to rust away along the roof and will be too expensive to repair.
He will not sell them and one is an early one (55-58) and has factory safari's.

There have been hundreds posted on this site over the years and lots of pics of them in padocks or in the bush and most end up staying there, How many have you seen that have ended up on the road, I know of only a few , not more than a dozen in the time this site has been going.
I have seen them change owners left right and center but they still dont end up on the road.

All I am saying is they are out there but it costs too much to get them on the road, that is why people think they are rare.

Also some get upset with people shipping them overseas, I would say that there are more restored Aussie buses in England than there are here.
If people were so worried about them going overseas wht=y dont they buy them?/

Cheers
Dave

my 60 panel is rare, v original and lots of work done in the last few years, but I have a wife, so will take yonks to get on the road, as it's not the only ones I've got. So, yes it would be for sale, but it would not be 2k, you get nothing from a good beater for 2k, so when thinking of selling...I then think, can I really be bothered with the dreamers, knockers etc., that will show up to tell me about my panel, when I know every repair, the time and cost of that repair and every inch of it ... too depressing a thought.

I've got history with the bus, but did have to get my fingers burned way before to really appreciate what I've got now - though might sell - maybe - if you get my drift.

Anyone that pays 2k for a split needs their head looking at. Better to pay nothing than 2k....but then sometimes you have to go through it to know it.

yep theres a bloke in my village restoring one
now & me, theres one 4 k's away which looks solid from the fence line its going to england
the owner goes around hunting them & shipping
overseas, i asked how much $6000 to me & $8000 from england.

i think there will be less and less going over seas ,because the rich are starting to get a taste for them thanks to jamie oliver and friends , i am allways getting stopped by suits at servos saying wow nice ride, these things are rare do you want to sell?
but thats only because she is on the road.nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by kombibob ]nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by kombibob ]

This is my point, you buy the cheapest you can, never more than $2000 and then you restore it.
It is better to spend a little on the original purchase as they will all need the same amount of work.
I ended up spending over $20K on parts never mind the 4 years of my labour, Imagine if I had bought one for $7000 and then had to spend the same amount?

I have not seen a split yet (that hasnt been restored) that doesnt need the usual rust repairs.

Cheers
Dave

i got touched by the first one $4000😬
the second in much better condition $750
the third $200 & $100 of that was to bring it
down the mountain

oh i just realised going by the above the next will be
freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by winerot ]

Thats what I am on about, they are out there and the more we educate people on this site that they are and the prices they are worth, the more they will save and the more money they will have to restore them.

Cheers
Dave

dave do you have any left over parts
i can take them off your hands for you
that will make room in your new shed

sorry but, who gives a sht! seriously. they are a great piece of VW history to own, and far fewer than fatchicks or beetles. they can carry heaps; parts or mates. they turn heads and bring back a lot of memories, that make a lot of people smile, stare and point as you travel down the road.

and you can have the windscreen open, so that you can actually take in the real life feel of the great australian land you are travelling in. making them fun to drive, cruise or commute. 😏

Dave sometimes your a #%@*...

The St George bus was never meant to be registered or passed off as regsitered...next year we are gunna take a pallet of crushed steel on wheels and push that around, should please the organisers, at least then no one will smile and have a bit of fun, because we wouldnt want to be different and offend anyone..."You just cant tell some people"

Someone infact said it was disrespectful to the old Kombi...I guess crushing is more respectful???

As for rare, I ve been driving around Sydney, the city, south to the Shire, out to Penrith, up to the Blue Mountains, over to Manly and the Northern Beaches, went up and surfed Kiddies Corner at Palmy (good little uncrowded wave by the way, Manly was a bit local...but had some fun) for the last two weeks...I travelled from Byron (800ks) and the last two weeks and havent seen a single split (except DSK members who i visited at their homes) oh and one at Classic Vee Dub...but not another single split driving on the road, in the greatest city on earth and not another splitty...you're right dave, they're not rare...

greatest city on earth???


Dave doent have a split to keep him busy so he must antaganise us (if thats how u spell it )nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by Resto 64 ]

Yep, Daves getting withdrawal symptoms.
But I agree with some points.
When I think of the word 'Rare' I visualise cars that were not built in mass numbers, hand built cars like 10 a day.
Splits were mass produced, in 1954, 40,000 were built. In 1966, 176,000 were built in Hannover alone.
Times that by the number of years splits were available and you have a fair number.
I think it all boils down to price for unrestored splits that put people off.
I know of 20 for sale now, all different prices, 21 windows, 23 windows, barny's, dual cabs the lot. If you want one bad enough you can find one.

What really pisses me off is the people that sit on them, hoping that they are going to be worth more than thier weight in gold itself. They are not, if it gets to the stage where an unrestored 11 window split is fetching nothing less than $30,000 people won't buy them, simple as that.
So the end result is that all the splits in peoples paddocks are gonna rot away (unless you buy a van cover from CVWP) and never given a chance. This dosen't include the people with genuine intentions.

The way things are going you will soon be able to buy a left hooker and convert it with new parts. Buy an 11 window and convert it to a 23 window.Turn an 11 window into a 15 window delux, Not original? who cares!!
Driving on the Gold Coast you can see a split a day, I saw another yesterday that I haven't seen before.

Price you want to pay? for an unrestored split thats down to you but the resto bill is high on all of them to bring them up to a roadworthy standard. There is rot in them all, you just got to find it.
The reason you dont see them everyday, all day long is that they are not a practical everyday vehicle, they are over 40 years old.
The other thing that puts people off restos, is the stigma attached to doing a split back to its original state, bullshit, you can do it to your own style, slam it, raise it, chop it, resto it, what ever takes your fancy.

Don't get me started on Rats !!!!nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]

Byronbus, I drive my split to work in Sydney CBD each day. All my colleagues have HSV's Jap cars and 4WD's. My split is no show winner but it see's daily regular service. I occasionaly see the odd split, but I stress occasionaly. I just wonder where all the splits you see at shows go to after the show!!

Dave maybe uncommon is a better term than rare!

Cheers Steve

the sticker on top is going on each of mine when they hit the road & no way are they going to be garaged no way


& the other sticker is going on each as well as they wont be going at a snails pace
i suppose a rare one is one you dont havenn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by winerot ]nn[ Edited on 16-7-2005 by winerot ]

Some have got my point others havent.
A rare vehicle is hard to find in any condition.
A split is not hard to find.
A split is hard to restore due to cost involved.
Also the people who say splits are rare are usually the ones who dont know how much it costs to do one.
As for giving details of the splits round Adelaide.and when I have approched them a price was never mentioned.
There are 2 on Swan Tce, Semaphore, one of these is the early with semaphores.
There is one on the corner of South Rd and Sturt Rd, Marion, There is one along the Lyndoch Rd, Gawler.
Right lets see how many on here will be bothered to go and fly down here and offer them cash for them.
No one will as they would cost too much to ship back to the eastern states.
If they are that rare put your money where your mouth is and come and try and buy them???

As for the St George bus, what I didnt like was the fact that it won a trophy for best rat, a rat is a drivable vehicle with original paint and nice wheels, it is supposed to be safe at least, a rat is Frenixs beetle not that pile of crap that couldnt be restored or ever used so I would send it to sims after getting any parts off it, whats the use of keeping something that cant ever be restored.

Cheers
Dave

As for the comments regarding driving around and not seeing them, that is my point, you will see them in paddocks but you dont see many driving as they cost too much to get on the road.
This does not make them rare, just expensive to restore.

So Bone collecter I have shared the locations of some splits will you be booking your flight?????

Cheers
Dave

Dave, the St Goerge split didnt win best Rat, the "Club VW" Nationals dont have such a category...not sure where you get your info...

Roy, tell us your opinion on rats...always good to hear others opinions...

I love these discussions by the way...please dont take it as negative, rather some friendly discussion

i seen frenzix beetle earlier this year south bound pacific h/way
im guessing around national time coming towards me, didnt
know whos at the time but as i passed damn it looked good
all rusty surface that is, low & a wave from the man to boot.
i know nothing about rat but i would say as a novice that would be it😉nn[ Edited on 17-7-2005 by winerot ]

St george bus won best project i think❓❓

Eh you can get all caught up in semantics, but who cares. I like splits.

Sorry. it got "Best unfinished project"??????

It was unfinished alright.

Anyway that is off the point.
So how many people on here havent seen a split in a paddock or in a driveway, they are everywhere.
I was talking to Roy one day and he also said that he knew of about 20 splits around near himn, so how rare are they.

Cheers
Dave

actually dave. its quite sad that youve gone to bagging the happy ignorant bliss of ownership of splits. let it lie mate, yours is gone now... but then again, maybe as youve sold yours you are trying to drive done the value so you can get the next one, eh?!🙅

I'll have to agree with twoguns here (me and wes see eye to eye an alot of things these days) Who gives a flaming turdbag? What's the point of this post? to get people worked up? I don't know if i should laugh or cry, on one hand my 58 is being loved, then our (dsk) catering panel is being bagged ... for some unknown stupid reason. The forum has been positive lately but if posts like this pop up bagging other peoples work then it will come crashing down again. Dave, you wonder why you can't post your opinion on here without critisism, well it's cause your opinion sucks ass.. that's my opinion.

Tim, you are allowed your opinion, I am allowed mine, thats what makes a forum.
I am just fed up with people who dont know what they are taliking about always saying that splits are rare and then when someone posts a pic of one in a paddock they all scream "where is it I want it" then they do nothing about it.
As for me wanting the price to go down, a mate in the next street to me bought a 64 panel van complete a few months ago for $100. Yes it does need the usual rust repairs but it needs the same as I have seen on a bus advertised for $5000
So how low can the prices go.

Also I see that when ever I start a topic they get quite a lot of views and comments, Do you think people might like discussions, as that is what this is and I havent lowered myself to swear at anyone just because I dont like what they think ay Byron?

Cheers
Dave(who might already have another one)

There's a reason why you post threads like this, im just buggered to figure out why.

Its because I like a good discussion and it gets people talking.
we seem to get really boring with the usual, "what colour should I paint my?" type post so these liven things up if we can keep them civil.

Cheers
Dave

My splits for sale $30,000 if anyone is interested, 2 weeks and its got to be in a container.

You only put it on here as you can see how many people have viewed this post???.

Lets see if anyone wants to buy this Rare vehicle or if they are all talk.

Cheers
Dave

maybe someone should word it as a splitty 100% restored properly is rare or rather pretty hard to find just a suggestion.

I want to buy this vehicle and I'm all talk! -- I haven't got thirty grand... :-( Nice bus though hey?

Mate
The story behind this vehicle is on www.kombiclub.com
When I was searching I saw near on 100 splits, most were being hoarded, most now are probably not worth scrap metal.
Some people buy the bloody things so no one else can have them and then when a genuine buyer comes along the price triples.

No harm in a good 'discussion' but its not just Splits is it. We can use the same for Beetles, KG's, type 3's, type 34's
If you want one bad enough they are out there still.

The rarest Kombi of them all is the early Bay, its like an endangered species. If you find one its probably got the front beam missing, robbed of all its dignity and left to rot into the ground. Is anyone bothered, NO. Bless em!!!

Rats - argh the neverending debate.
To answer you Bruce we will have to sit down and have a pint and disciuss it.

aggri1 wrote:I want to buy this vehicle and I'm all talk! -- I haven't got thirty grand... :-( Nice bus though hey?

I have been offered right arms, wives and children, but I prefer cash

..:alien

The rarest Kombi of them all is the early Bay, its like an endangered species. If you find one its probably got the front beam missing, robbed of all its dignity and left to rot into the ground. Is anyone bothered, NO. Bless em!!!

......Roy.I.would.like.to.add.that.I.am.very.bothered.that.early.bays.might.be.left.to.rot.into.the.ground.I.have.three.and.none.of.mine.are.rotting,.in.fact.two.of.them.have.recently.been.resprayed.So.if.your.splitty.is.worth.$30k.how.much.is.my.71deluxemicrobus.worth?.Lets.say.for.arguments.sake,restored.to.a.similar.level.and.yes.my.space.bar.has.stopped.working!!!!!!!!!!Also....I.am.looking.to.buy.a.split.for.around.2k,....now.you.lot.have.all.scared.me.off!!!anyone.got.one.I.can.have.gor.say.$100.......?

Hey Dozza.it.was.hard.work.reading.that.
There is a guy selling one down here, you may be interested in. give us a call I think he wants $3000
A split is only worth what you are willing to pay for it and how lucky you are.
I never find the bargains me!
And obviously where you are, I have not seen any for sale in Qld for $100, because there are fewer here.
The reason is probably that places like Adelaide and Melbourne and Sydney were well established in the sixties and seventies when most splits were brought over. Qld was sparcely populated therefore fewer splits were here.
Pay the price you are happy with.

oh and there are 2 in Hervey Bay free for collection.
One can be restored, I think nit is a 58, the other is rooted, that was an Army bus.
Trouble is a fella went over there when the owner was out and stripped them of all the little bits.

These two were bought with good intentions and left. Result is that one is rooted

jeez id be up for that

Have we not been here before same old same old.
Same old fisherman.....
Same fish biting.

yep, I bet I know what the next post will be.

now now now....
why would i pay $30K for something i could buy for >$1-2k down the street and spend $25k and >4 years of my life on.. and.... of course i could still end up with an inferior product with silicone used instead of sikoflex.
haha

EKs however, they are everywhere common as... even window'd PVs....

I've got a 60 panel, had all the rust removed. Has 3" drop sills, new inner sills, all holes welded, pro-work, has zero rust in the floor, never has....needs dorr finishing.......many hours spent on this bus....3/4days left tops by a pro to get ready for preparation .... ah but then there's the 7k paint job, all the mechanics to do....so you'd need to be prepared to spend 20k on it....and no one really wants to do that. So when I say 6k starting price, everyone goes 'what the', but then when you've replaced the bottom foot of the car, all the doors open and close and theres zero rust with all new parts hand made to fit this car....then it's never a 2k car. there's a lot of metal in a split that you can't see till you go looking for it......still if someone wants one for 6k U2U me, but bear in mind ... it needs everything mechanically.......so you're looking at $25k investment for a bus.

As soon as you start talking new sills, new outriggers, new fronts, you're talking $20k+. Sooner or later, even if you buy a 6k bus, it's gonna cost you 20 at todays prices.

So I reckon that 20-25k is a realistic figure for a split to be restored....which is good to see I'm in tune with others....but I still think you are better to get a good original and get a very very good panel guy to work on it. The hassle is when you're part way into it, and sunk money and time into it, the last thing you want is some 'know it all' telling you it's worth $200. Yeah get real, you get what you pay for - if - you know what you're actually looking at.

Ghias and splits will send you broke if you are not open to the idea of spending new car money on a 40 year old one.

Sign me up for more of those $100 panel vans btw. I'll take 10.

haha...
Dave i didnt lower myself to swearing...just not sure how your mind ticks or maybe it doesnt, got frozen in the early years...but you are right on one thing, you are allowed to have an opinion, even if it is a stupid one...

And Roy, your shout...

I have two unrestored splits, paid more than 2k for both, both are registered and are driven daily (as best you can when you can only drive one at a time), both dont need sills, outriggers, etc. Infact both are pretty much rust free...

I put 10,000 MILES on the blue shitter in the last 10 weeks, hasnt missed a beat (ran out of fuel twice) and is solid as a rock, looks crap and ratty, but is safe and solid...

You dont need to spend 30k to have a sweet rust free split, spend 6-10k and buy a sweet and tidy original split and SMILE, i am and i have two splits for less than 15k, wahoo...

Might have stupid opinions but it got people looking and talking that much that it got this topic to 3 pages within a day??????
Might be a record???

Cheers
Dave

not 3 pages yet

Byronbus, how things change in a matter of weeks.
Didnt you e-mail me stating that you were willing to put a deposit on my bus only someone had beat you to it.?????
So there must be something in actually having a fully restored bus as you were after mine???

Cheers
Dave

Im hogging this a bit, but splits are my passion...the more on the road the bigger smile i have, fun getting a wave from a bay or a beetle, but soo much more fun trying to hang out the little slider on a split waving at another split driver, bloody hell i almost wet my pants...

Frenzix has a 65 panel, when weve finished replacing the rear floor and inner and outer sills and getting the ole girl safe and roadworthy (for less than a grand) for 5kish he will have a RUST FREE split...wahoo another smile coming your way...jeez another on the road...


VISIT www.dsk.com.au an aussie split site for split heads...

not big on the au chev.... let me know if you come across an immac za fairlaine thou....... or a xr fairmont xr falcon van. ute stat wagon...... get em... ge em
get em..... inna shed.... dont let them waste away...

Haha dave...i was drunk...
But i dont deny that your bus was sweet, and if the semaphores hadnt been welded up, and a few other little things then i might have been interested...I would love a weekend cruiser, already have a dailly driver, for sure...restored, so all i needed to do was wax and enjoy...

I drive a split all day everyday, I dont have another car...a nice restored early example would look mighty fine in my gararge...so whats your point?

Pity it left Australia...nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by byronbus ]

retires from the debate....pointless

not big on the au chev....

build a big dry shed, wiln looto and start putting all these classic peices of modern art away for future reference.

57... i remember your eks being trashed 'cause they were taking up room. this was late 70s, you copuld have had every two tone of wagon for pocket change......

almost dosent matter what you horde these days as ,ong as the shed is b i i i i g and dry....

let me know if you come across an immac za fairlaine thou....... or a xr fairmont xr falcon van. ute stat wagon...... get em... get em
get em..... inna shed.... dont let them waste away...

I know the post is all about the mighty split window,
but i just thought i would share this, seeing someone above,
Not naming names, seems to obsesed with the XR era. :thumb

This one belongs to a good mate of mine. Was his father
inlaws XER. Originally a 1967 XR 500, it now has front and
rear disc brakes, simmons 16" alloy wheels,
retrimmed XR fairmont intereor with front buckets, and a
nice old 289 V8 motor under the bonnet coupled with a cruise-o-matic auto.
It has all been done in taste and good will, oh, the odometer is reading a
mere 106,000 original miles. Original 6 being replaced with
and original 8 @ 95,000 miles when aquired. Has done
11,000 miles in the last 8 years. Original paint too. 🙂

One more, lovely old 289 V8......,

Just to touch on some other things, lets not look at this
post as being a negative or a positive, but more a mutral
opertunity to discuss opinions and attitudes towards
different things. I agree that it is these sort of topics that
do create a little debate, but they also certainly create
an enjoyable forum to browse. Look at the hit rate on this
topic, its got things booming again. Its nice to see peoples
rides, and what they are doing, but nothing beats a good
old debate about something trivial, and if your all discusted
by it, why so many returned visits and posts?

You all enjoy the opertunity, dont deny it! :P :thumb

WHY THE HELL IS THERE PICTURES OF FORDS AND HOLDENS ON HERE? Next Dave will be saying that old holdens are rare, when he's got one. 😉 .

BLUE_62 wrote:One more, lovely old 289 V8......,

Just to touch on some other things, lets not look at this
post as being a negative or a positive, but more a mutral
opertunity to discuss opinions and attitudes towards
different things. I agree that it is these sort of topics that
do create a little debate, but they also certainly create
an enjoyable forum to browse. Look at the hit rate on this
topic, its got things booming again. Its nice to see peoples
rides, and what they are doing, but nothing beats a good
old debate about something trivial, and if your all discusted
by it, why so many returned visits and posts?

You all enjoy the opertunity, dont deny it! :P :thumb

here here:beer

If Splitty's were rare why are companies like Schofields and Creative making new parts. If they were that rare they wouldn't sell a lot.
What is rare is the type of person that wants to drive one.

810 views in 2 days.
Blue 62 hit the nail on the head.
Most topics I start are done so that we can get back to having discussions.
But some see them as excuses to have a go at others.
Who said the art of conversation was dead.
I have never had a go at anyone.
As far as I know I have only ever upset one person and I sorted that out with her ages ago
I have lasted about as long as I can.
I have felt like this for a while but have given it a few chances.
I now know why others who have been on here for years have gone.
I just thought I would do one last good post as I intend to have a break from this site for a while. It has changed over the years and it seems that i cant post my opinions, without someone turning it into a free for all.
I thought a forum was so that we could each have a say,
but it seems that if you dont think like others they have a go??
The new project arrives in a couple of weeks as does our new baby.
So I will not have time to come on here as much as I used to.
I have been on here almost every day since it started and I think it is time for a change.
I will be on tomorrow as 62 deluxe is going to post some pics of his splitty.
I will visit kombiclub.com and see how that goes.

Cheers
Davenn[ Edited on 18-7-2005 by 57kombi ]nn[ Edited on 18-7-2005 by 57kombi ]

i agree... geez tim, thats two.

should post a report saying that this thread is containing offensive material. not fit for viewing on AVD😁.

I have seen tons of splits. Usually and unfortunatley above tradies beltline. My eyes. My eyes. They burn!

the $$ sums on restoring a Splitty, or any car for that matter are simple.
If you want it to have it look like a new car, you have to be prepared to spend new car price.

To me, no matter what the arguement, whether it's restored or rat, or unroadworthy, every one is to be cherished, enjoyed, and smiled at......

This below, bought the biggest smile to my face at the Nats, all because it was still being enjoyed at any cost. And that's what it's about. :kiss

Now THAT is rat! 😁

Thats the dsk split, boy did we cop some flack over that...
Some thought it was disrespectful to the ole girl...another person on here thought it was better to take any good bits and crush it...but the dsk boys continue to enjoy her...

www.dsk.com.au

Haha, I just read some production figures, these things are bloody rare...

Haha, see ya dave, we'll miss ya lol

I think what Dave was saying is that that is not a 'Rat', as its not registered nor is it driven (I am guessing here), its probably more a project. A 'Rat' is generally given to a VW thats on the road but keeps its old 'patina'
I can see why it may be classed as disrespectful to other rat owners and/or other splitty owners.
There are people out there that have spent $20,000 plus on making there bus a 'Rat' look and would spin heads for the right reasons. This bus was probably laughed at for all the wrong reasons
This would look an awesome bus if you repaired the rot and kept it on the road for future generations, whether iot be as a 'Rat' or restored.
Thats only my opinion
nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]

Dave really is a nice bloke when you meet him!:thumbnn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by 62deluxe ]

Honest!nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by 62deluxe ]

hey 62 i put a post up about this job with posting
a lot of pics on a daily base are you applying for the pos
that was left open when 57 sold

ClassicVW(pacific) wrote:I think what Dave was saying is that that is not a 'Rat', as its not registered nor is it driven (I am guessing here), its probably more a project. A 'Rat' is generally given to a VW thats on the road but keeps its old 'patina'
I can see why it may be classed as disrespectful to other rat owners and/or other splitty owners.
There are people out there that have spent $20,000 plus on making there bus a 'Rat' look and would spin heads for the right reasons. This bus was probably laughed at for all the wrong reasons
This would look an awesome bus if you repaired the rot and kept it on the road for future generations, whether iot be as a 'Rat' or restored.
Thats only my opinion
nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]nn[ Edited on 19-7-2005 by ClassicVW(pacific) ]

You're right, people were upset because they spent 1000's of dollars on their cars and no one noticed, because everyone was looking at the dsk split...

haha Bruce your a class act,

whats the friggin problem here,

you have your splitty, you do what the hell you want with it (not directed at anyone paticular)

i have my splitty and i will do what the hell i want with mine

just get on with it

geeese this is getting real boring ay

Anyway, split are not rare as the post is ment for, i have 8 and i know a mate who has 27 of them, further more i know where there are 5 more

you go and find me a 1975 Audi 80/100 coupe, now thats friggen rare,






Andy
.nn[ Edited on 19-7-05 by VolksFolks ]

Anyway, split are not rare as the post is ment for, i have 8 and i know a mate who has 27 of them, further more i know where there are 5 more

i'm looking for a $2k splitty if anyone knows of any for sale.

www.volksfolks.biz mate under cars for sale

Andy

Coxy give steve a call 0400 356 057, he has a few forsale...

Haha andy, must be someone elses problem, not mine, i dont have one...

haha, check this out http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=33032

There is a difference between 'hard to find' and 'rare'.

true roy, good observation...but the rare ones are definately hard to find...

aaarrgghhh but the hard to find ones are even harder to find.

the hard to find ones are usually the rare ones

This thread has had over 1200 views maybe time for an Ad

www.classicvwpacific.com

For all your VW needs

haha and www.dsk.com.au for all your rare split parts and chat

ClassicVW(pacific) wrote:This thread has had over 1200 views maybe time for an Ad

www.classicvwpacific.com

For all your VW needs

haha beat me to it, well done

haha www.kombiclub.com for the smarter kombi drivers:P

its hard to find a rare one nowadays

haha

this thread is shitnn[ Edited on 19-7-05 by frenzix ]

i need parts,
As i build my RAT single cab splitty I have thought about getting them from that classic vw mob but how can i buy parts of someone that doesnt seem to be enthusastic about vw culture, be it rat, purist, cal look etc this seems to be an add for them. hmmm

gourment burgers at mullaway store
if yous can i can

56ovaltine wrote:i need parts,
As i build my RAT single cab splitty I have thought about getting them from that classic vw mob but how can i buy parts of someone that doesnt seem to be enthusastic about vw culture, be it rat, purist, cal look etc this seems to be an add for them. hmmm

yeh man give me a bell, thats if you can get through.i got parts galore, stocking bus bits only now

Andynn[ Edited on 19-7-05 by VolksFolks ]

Nice andy, post your web address

Roy, i think we are having a laugh, imagine sitting round a table in a pub drinking and chatting about the same subject.

When was the last time you were sat round a pub table in Boston???

HI

I havent read all the posts on this thread, but my opinion for what its worth is that I've been looking for a split for a couple of months now and have seen NOTHING. I regularly check all the websites listed, plus other places, and it seems like Aus is empty.

When I say nothing I mean NOT ONE splitty that I would even consider going to look at.

I care not for rarity of the thing, 23/21 windows, barn-doors, pressed bumpers,fairy lights or whatever - all I'm after is a good use-able kombi with a camping interior... and I'm prepared to pay the cost for the right one. All I've seen so far is $2000 projects

So, where are all the kombi's OVER $2000 ????

2 1/2 years ago Roy, there are pubs in Tassie you know..

VolksFolks wrote:2 1/2 years ago Roy, there are pubs in Tassie you know..

Get away ???
I did say Boston!!!
I know a fella that has a pub in Tassie, when I visit I will let you know

Samblers wrote:HI

I havent read all the posts on this thread, but my opinion for what its worth is that I've been looking for a split for a couple of months now and have seen NOTHING. I regularly check all the websites listed, plus other places, and it seems like Aus is empty.

When I say nothing I mean NOT ONE splitty that I would even consider going to look at.

I care not for rarity of the thing, 23/21 windows, barn-doors, pressed bumpers,fairy lights or whatever - all I'm after is a good use-able kombi with a camping interior... and I'm prepared to pay the cost for the right one. All I've seen so far is $2000 projects

So, where are all the kombi's OVER $2000 ????

Many keep hold of thier splits if they are useable, as they are very hard to find a replacement. There has been a couple on here that look pretty nice.
If you are looking for a camper, these are harder to find, as opposed to buses or vans.
It may be an option to buy a windowed van or bus and convert to a camper yourself.
What price range are you looking at??

haha fewl, 2 1/2 since back in Boston, will be there in 10 days, mmmm Batemans Biter

when you off back?

ClassicVWPacific: I'm not looking at a price-range in particular, just prepared to pay what it takes to find the right splitty 😉

If anyone finds one, let me know 😉

VolksFolks wrote:haha fewl, 2 1/2 since back in Boston, will be there in 10 days, mmmm Batemans Biter

when you off back?

You can't beat a pint of Batemans Bitter.
I will be there September for Vanfest hopefully already got a cruise starting from Skeggy, 6 splitties and 4 bays. The Skeggy contingent of the Kombi Club

Samblers wrote:ClassicVWPacific: I'm not looking at a price-range in particular, just prepared to pay what it takes to find the right splitty 😉

If anyone finds one, let me know 😉

Give us a call, let us know what you want and we will see what we find.
There are many out there, like you say its just finding the right one

I made it to page two.....I think I did well:duh

Classic: I'm not in Aus at the moment, but will keep your details for when i am 😉

After a post-64 split kombi, camping interior, good solid condition, no customs etc.... prefer not to get a converted panelvan

haha, the other thread got moved...

Can the mod who deleted the other thread delete this thread as well...

if you won a trophy at a vw show and someone bagged it out on aussieveedubbers you would be bagging them when you thought they were as quoted" enthusiastic" about vws of all styles as a lover of rats as you are "62 deluxe".
Im not personally really pissed of and its like us all sitting around having a beer and giving it back .
but i know alot of hard work, fun , rare parts and the not so rare ,went into the st george panel and enjoyment by many and bag it and ye shall be bagged

Point taken about the St George bus.
Personally I think the thing is *#%^$ awesome. Once again only my opinion.
I just feel the whole thing is getting a little personnal.
I for one have NEVER bagged anyones ride here or anywhere else.
Maybe as one of your members said "take the moral highground" and don't bite back. That is usually what the other person wants anyway.......

Thinking of selling my 60 perhaps, what offers. Very og 134k miles same running gear not butchered never welded. No rust ever.

62deluxe you should join us on the dsk forums 😉

Volma, post some pics and info or email to bruceybvw@hotmail.com

Cheers

Sent

greg i will call you..

🙄bump🙄4🙄Bruce

haha, where is magnum PI these days? Come back dave, we miss you...

Common as cane toads
Bloody things are everywhere! Split window Beetle's now they are rare!
Rob...

any going cheap around melbourne??

I see it as a bit of both ways.
While splitties are collectable, there is a difference between collectable & rare. At the same time, the number of splitties built that I have seen quoted in this thread doesn't mean much either. I have said this before on the forum, because the bay kombi was such a superior vehicle (which was the general idea), in the mid 70's you could not give away a split.
A hell of a lot ended up as razor blades. Those that didn't are tucked away &/or rotting away.

But that still doesn't equate to rare.
All you have to do is look, but get off the sealed roads to do it.

There's a $800 dollar one in Melbourne somewhere hipichic.

Robo wrote:Common as cane toads
Bloody things are everywhere! Split window Beetle's now they are rare!
Rob...

Yeah, there's one (split) out front of my place, one around the corner on weekends (hey Tony, nice bus - should chat about your IRS), another project (?) one just up the road (steve), splitties are EVERYWHERE these days. Well, almost. :P Then theres some place with an early bay and other stuff amongst the trees, just around the other corner. :P

This thread sure is funny.:thumb What can I advertise? Ah: http://www.savethechildren.org/

haha

aggri1 wrote:There's a $800 dollar one in Melbourne somewhere hipichic.

I checked the melways and Somewhere isn't a suburb of melbourne that I can find :P

ask the bloke in the pub, it's his mates' dad's splitter. Had it from new in 52...