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hellVWrx.......EJ20 notch

https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/44043/hellvwrxej20-notch

hellbugged ·

hill climb/circuit notch.engine support bars were added to cure axle tramp and link to roll cage via alluminium plate on parcel shelf. in need of rear wing now to stop wheel spin even with 10 inch slicks!!

guru ·

Aww man! You've got to have more pics of this animal somewhere.

hellbugged ·

i'll get some more next week, but thats it for now....

p.s whats the world coming to? i do a weekly update on a build up of a real live V.W engine......no response......mention rex engine and instant response...🥲

guru ·

c'mon mate, your camera has a flash. Get outside and snap some inspiration for me.........pleeze?

hellbugged ·

true, but i can't afford the petrol to make it to the high tech storage facility and back, i'm currently building a real live V.W motor you know!!!!😂

guru ·

Yeah ok. 2 carbs & oil leaks. Been down that costly yellow-brick road covered with oil drops. Getting lots of valuable info from this site which will help with my money pit. REX has shown me the light.

pete wood ·

Does Jeff Unwin Still own this car?

rubyred ·

awesome, any pics of the car itself? any action pics?
thanks,
-Ryan

hellbugged ·

pete wood wrote:Does Jeff Unwin Still own this car?
.......some bits

rubyred ·

do you have any info on his suspension setup, tire/wheel combo?
thanks!!!
-Ryan

pete wood ·

dumone wrote:i'll get some more next week, but thats it for now....

p.s whats the world coming to? i do a weekly update on a build up of a real live V.W engine......no response......mention rex engine and instant response...:crynn[ Edited on 20-9-2005 by dumone ]

VW is dead [yawn]...long live the rex!!! :bounce

humpty ·

Hey Jeff...long time no hear!

Good to see your still messing with that old jigger!

Our RS Notch is still going strong......Traction....What is tht again?

He, he...

Euro_67 ·

How are the brakes on this ? Disks / drums, standard type 3 ? I cant remember, it has been a few years since I have seen it.

Wayne

hellbugged ·

type three front, ea rear discs


what are you up to Wayne???....you seem to be seeking out notch/rex info here😁.....

i can find out or take pics of anything you need to look at closer, fire away

Euro_67 ·

Just sussing out some options. Got a notch recently, and the engine has new heads and Pistons/cylinders but cylinders 2 and 4 are leaking at the head badly. I pulled the engine out today and I found one of the head stud nuts off completely, it was even jamming the plug lead on the plug. I am hoping I can get it back together cheaply, with a subaru swap in mind for future plans. Does the hell notch have an early swing rear subframe converted to IRS ? Any photos you feel like taking would be great.

pete wood ·

The car is IRS. Jeff Unwin never built a serious circuit car without IRS. I believe the best scenario is to do an IRS conversion on the early subframe coz you need the chassis horns to support the motor properly.

hellbugged ·

no it's not the converted swing axle sub frame. the car was purchased like that from the original builder, but if Jeff had his choice it would have been a converted one.

29mm torsion bars, 26mm rear sway bar. STIFF!!

Amazer had a converted one for sale a while back, he may still have it.

when we converted my sisters early notch to late frame, we used the original late engine support cross bar and brackets welded to the body in normal location, but for rex conversion, for sure go the converted frame

GTMac ·

How much vibration do you get back through the car by having the bars connected to the body and to the engine via the link bars, ie no nolathane (spelling) bushes dampening the vibration.

Euro_67 ·

GTMac,
How is your Subaru conversion going, I have had a look for a progress thread but couldnt find one. Any chance you have some pics you could post in a thread an talk us through the conversion.

Thanks,

Wayne.

[ Edited on 26-8-06 by 1964_Notch ]

Euro_67 ·

Pete, I dont disagree. I am not a fan of the factory Type 3 IRS setup. I am trying to source a spare early swinger sub frame to convert to IRS, I could convert the one in the car, but would prefer to tacle the whole job, brakes and all then just slot it in when finished. I have a lead on '73 wagon brakes, bigger caliper and bigger drums. I have these on my '67 beetle already and they work great. Before I commit to them, can any one find a reason they would be unsuitable (yes I know 4 wheel disks are better but just keeping it simple at this stage) from a legal engineering standpoint. Are they a substantial enough upgrade to satisfy an engineer for a Subaru EJ20T conversion ? Is there any kind of mandatory requirement to fit rear disks ?

boof2332 ·

I have a long list of cars to convert , however as my first car wa a notch, so it is only natural thatI would want to stick a subaru motor in one. A 356 is the other plan.

I am so looking forward to pulling up next to a wrx powered bug and have both of us dissapear up the road in the click of your fingers. It would just spin people out!

I am going to make up a couple of dummy engines out of foam, then glass over the top of them and lend them out for fitting purposes. Bit lighter than the original.
Keep the conversions coming boys....

Matt

Euro_67 ·

Matt, expect me to call in for a look and chat real soon !

And the questions keep on coming !

Adapter plate / flywheel ? Which one ? KEP, Unicap or John Sherman ?

[ Edited on 26-8-06 by 1964_Notch ]

[ Edited on 26-8-06 by 1964_Notch ]

silverbullet ·

Jeff sent me a disk a while back now with a load ofs pics on it this is one mean machine. He sent it to me to give me some ideas on fitout and so forth. I bought a bit of stuff of jeff years ago for my conversion.

hellbugged ·

a couple of shots from valla, i will get some set up pics for yas' in the next couple of days...

cleaning out the 2 years of rat shite..




with the 10 and 11 inch slicks......still spins em at 160km/h (third gear) tho!!!!




then down came the rain and rubber width (7inch all round)....




don't forget your hail Mary!!....




don't be standing on the go peddle too hard, 29 p.s.i boost makes it kind of toey!!!!(you might be able to see the turnbuckles holding the intercooler on) and be wary when it gets some grip, a few second later your doing 128km/h, before changing up to third, which dissapears another couple of seconds later at 185km/h, fourth is gone in about 4 seconds when it hits 260 km/h!!




close the lid at the end of the day!, it will still start after 30 seconds cranking, a couple of years later:thumb




[ Edited on 27-8-06 by dumone ]

hellbugged ·

GTMac wrote:How much vibration do you get back through the car by having the bars connected to the body and to the engine via the link bars, ie no nolathane (spelling) bushes dampening the vibration.
theres no interior in the car at all, so it's all swooshing and whistling, as well as the straight cut gears in the 2L box.
..... with an aggressive built in seat massage to boot.

:thumb

hellbugged ·

Hey Boof......we need one of your sumps for this thing, the standard one is getting a 'lil thin🥲

silverbullet ·

I have the same kind of bar set up in my engine bay. works beautifully removing the torque twist out of the motor although there may be a few more vibrations than normal but not as bad as what you would first think.

boof2332 ·

Jak just welded a 4mm skid plate on his, I made my first one when I went over a crest and hit the gas and ground a hole next to the sump plug.

I get the top plates water jet cut, then weld the sump section on. I am making a couple next week, once the kombi is out the door.

Matt

rubyred ·


Lets Battle!
Subynotch Vs. Hell |X/RX

he he he he

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hellbugged ·

nice one ruby. how have you been?

wondering where you had got to.

get those sway bars yet???

seagull ·

Boof , I would like a Trade price 🙂 on the sumps please

I dont know were I have been looking but this is the fist I have seen of this post !!

? time

Gear box please tell us more ( we all need them )

The sway bar for the rear I have been using the old HR holden units .

your using 29mm torsion bars ? they are ?? good / no good ??

info please

I am going to the shed to do some more now !

seagull

hellbugged ·

ahhh i see,

i thought you were simply ignoring this one Neil😁

gearbox- i have been throwing 2L hints at you for months now- remember-berg five links, berg intermediate housing??

228mm pressure plate and 4 puck clutch-STILL SLIPS!!- but slicks and very tall first need to be taken into account. soon will run kennedy 228mm stage 3 pressure plate.

rear torsions (sway a way)carry the extra weight well. Ruby (above) runs them successfully too.

always remember WHITELINE BARS- have your bars stay stiffer longer!!!😂 KONI/bilstein-lifetime shocks!-rebuildable and adjustable!!

times????? very bloody quick!!!! looks like I'm going to make it to Warrick after all, so real times to come!!! much quicker than the beetle in my avatar -it ran 13 seconds flat.(N/A 2L).....so 11 second quaters would be expected.

[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

hellbugged ·

more info here Neil.....

http://www.phpbbserver.com/subuguforum/viewtopic.php?t=8&sid=33a553ace20c62354e9b8041cf78d13e&mforum=subuguforum

i believe you were looking for these as well.....

http://www.kennedyeng.com/volks_pp.htm

send em an email, they got back to me within 48 hours with price and freight ready to go.

[ Edited on 18-9-06 by dumone ]

rubyred ·

I did finally get some Whitelines. I also got a bunch of other stuff that was suggested by Jeff and yourself.

But before i could install it all, i managed to crack both of the trany horns on the subframe and snap 2 of the bolts in half somehow.... So in the meantime, its parked waiting for a new subframe with a bunch of goodies.

Also, since i bought another car for the meantime (e34 bmw 5 speed), i can work on some of the bigger tasks i wanted to do to it that i wasnt able to do before because it was my daily.

You wouldnt happen to have any below pics showing the subframe would ya?

-Ryan

seagull ·

Cheers , Humty whats going on you did not tell me about this , it passed me by !

I have a plane for that ### housing I can tell you .Pauls has a box about to land then it is having babies .

11 seconds , I about to pass out can not wate for my L cheapo peice of shit RS turbo motor to blow some of these fellas away .

seagull ·

I need to know about the gear box , as my G50 has turned to shit to date .

But I have landed more WRX motors

Simon Have I got a deal for you ( ! )

hellbugged ·

bo moo hoo ha ha haaaaaaaaa!!

those rex motors may cost $66.66, but the bullet proof gear boxes to match are worth the same as a hypo air cooled motor....................hhmmmm😉

the worlds best gears are made here in Australia and available in any size you want IVAN ALBINS.

the motor pictured is a wrx motor, not RS, with the biggest turbo able to be bolted to standard manifold.(bigger than STI).

close ratios are not need for these motors, this baby has no problems pushing any of the gears and even with the spacings as big as they are, still falls back into boost each change.

strength is what you should be after, not close ratios

ZF limo diff and moly pinion nut are all you need to add

Neil, desert moose was selling a built 2l box, it may have seemed expensive, but with all the gear inside, represented great value.

[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

rubyred ·

albins are crazy expensive here in the states.

1916 ·

yeah albins arent the cheapest here but worth the quality im told.

you are lucky and have nice cheap engine components though ruby red

pete wood ·

1916 wrote:you are lucky and have nice cheap engine components though ruby red
ey ey to that. with such a big market, the US get's very good prices on parts.

rubyred ·

yea, cheap, but you get what you pay for most of the time. vw motors are still super expensive to build up in the US with quality parts that actually fit. haha

one of the reasons i went the suby route.

but, it is nice having a vdub parts shop down the street.

1916 ·

yeah..now...think of the price of good parts for a vw engine. add international freight plus 10% gst and 15% parts tax...thats what WE gotta do 🙁



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hellbugged ·

how its held in place.........

i will try to explain what each of those alloy bars purpose is.......


they all run up to the parcel rack (that has been seam welded all the way round the edges), which is sandwhiched between two heavy alluminium plates.







the top plate is tied into the cro molly cage...




the bar to the far left and the one just visible at the rear right side of the engine bay are boith tied to the top of the gear box (kombi mounting point), & practically run in a vertical position to stop upward movement and twisting of the gearbox/engine
(you can see this support bar underneath the intercooler in the first shot above)




[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

hellbugged ·

the front of the gearbox is also held with another aluminium plate between the top of the intermediate housing and the body of the car.......




the plate underneath the fuel reg has two purposes.

1 is to hold against vertical/lifting movement at the rear of the engine



it is bolted to the motor, next to the alternator,like so....



2nd job is at the botom of the plate, there are also two more alloy rods. one runs in either direction to stop sideways loads at the rear of the engine. they are mounted to the body near the rear bumper mounts




there is also one bar that runs directly between the two bumper points- works like a strut brace to prevent both stretching and collapsing of the body




the radiator you can see there is for the intercooler only, and is pumped via a stand alone electric water pump, it has its own little thermo too. liberty water to air intercooler.

you can see a T-piece into the main radiator line- this is the return for the water from the turbo. it previously ran to the coolant resivoir-strangely enough, they were melting:thumb




[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

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hellbugged ·

the subframe utilizes the factory reinforced parts of the body. being late model type 3, the rear engine support mounts and shock tower mounting points is where the strength is- no rubber mounts tho.







the cradle ties into the bottom of the gearbox/engine solid too...just see in the bottom left of photo. when you run a kombi box, you also get the benefit of kombi C.V joints and axles:kiss




rubber mounts of subframe are long gone.....




can you say "adjustable"????? rear swaybars, at 26mm, are bigger than most peoples torsion bars🤪




[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

1916 ·

that thing would be STIFF STIFF STIFF..in a very good way.

i imagine its quite the track animal ey dumone?

hellbugged ·

it's bloody scary the first time!!!!!

i was asked what revs i was changing at when i got back ..............................."dunno!!!"

"well did you see the shift light?"............

"no, didn't look, what colour is it???.........everything is coming so fast, my eyes are glued wide open, focusing straight ahead!!!!"




its a pity i took all these piccies early today.

we had towed it a couple of 100 km to go racing last weekend- in the pouring rain. needless to say, it was postponed, but the engine got saturated.

when we started it, it had a miss fire, and needed to come up to full temp, which won't happen at idle.....

what to do???? we don't have a race track, the local country road would be awsome, but we both need our licencses..............that paddock looks fairly smooth, there are no cows near it..............swshhhh, whistle brrmmmm, the rooster tails looked classic!!!........and even tho we stayed in first, the ground felt a lot rougher at 80km/h that split second after the throttle was opened, BIG diagonal drifts thanx to the limo difff😏

[ Edited on 19-9-06 by dumone ]

seagull ·

I have just taken I guy for a spin in my liberty Rs turbo to give him some ideas as to the power of a subaru turbo motor .My car is 4x4

from this he is now looking for VW based car to do a conversion

another to the other side

May the force be with you :vader

rubyred ·

Dumone! thank you for all these detailed pictures. They are giving me a much bigger and better picture of what needs to be done. Wow. So much bracing!! i guess with 29psi, that thing needs it.

Hmm, i might try and build up off of a IRS subframe this time instead of converting a swingaxle one. It leaves more room for CV's. I bet those alloy rods work 100x better than an old fashioned traction bar too.

Theres so much i still need to do, it always seems like car projects are never ending.

When did Jeff build this thing?

-Ryan

hellbugged ·

mate, build up off the swing axle subframe again-MUCH BETTER.

the tops of the frame horns can be flattened to allow for the c.v joints

bracing the frame horns up to the body will achieve wonders

if we had the choice, ours would have been done that way, it was purchased roughed up before it was extensively changed to what it is now.

will get some front end detail pics soon

Euro_67 ·

I think most will agree the swinger subframe is a better starting point. You can dimple the forks for cv clearance. I have seen the forks seam welded for increased strength. If there is room you could triangulate the top shock mounts to the rear ' box mounts like the German Look beetle guys do. If you combined all that with the hell notch mods I am sure it would be plenty strong enough.
I just picked up a swinger subframe (thanks Toby) and am considering my options. Dumone, keep the photos coming as they are a great reference.

[ Edited on 21-9-06 by 1964_Notch ]

pete wood ·

dumone wrote:we had towed it a couple of 100 km to go racing last weekend- in the pouring rain. needless to say, it was postponed, but the engine got saturated.

when we started it, it had a miss fire, and needed to come up to full temp, which won't happen at idle.....

what to do???? we don't have a race track, the local country road would be awsome, but we both need our licencses..............that paddock looks fairly smooth, there are no cows near it..............swshhhh, whistle brrmmmm, the rooster tails looked classic!!!........and even tho we stayed in first, the ground felt a lot rougher at 80km/h that split second after the throttle was opened, BIG diagonal drifts thanx to the limo difff😏
Lol, you gave me a laugh. pity the poor farmer that had to come out and find that. Any chance you could attach a plough to the back? 😀

hellbugged ·

yeah the farmer was the one doing it, the farmers wife is the one to watch out for-don't tell her, we didn't:kiss

rear discs....now that's what you call a spacer!




flexi brake lines are all chrome braided




[ Edited on 17-10-06 by dumone ]

hellbugged ·

under the bonnet sits the second fuel pump, surge pot and at the rear, the vent/breather..... oh and the radiator and thermo fan




underneath the tank is the first fuel pump...




the steering is equipped with a quick steer block. one turn of the steering wheel takes it from one lock to the other




adjustable coil over konis




the front wheel spacers are rather large too. adjustable sway bar measures 24mm and attaches to the upper trailing arm. front discs are type 3 with matching calipers.




[ Edited on 17-10-06 by dumone ]

72type3wrx ·

Couple of dum questions.

Where do i get spacers like that????

How you put the coil overs on???

Can i leave my engine & box rubber mounted with no bracing, just 2 engine mounts and only the mounts at the front on my gear box (no horns)?

my 3 has the suby engine for years with out anything falling off or breaking but no turbo. now its turbo but not in yet.

hellbugged ·

Engine needs to come out!

well it's been a while, but i've finally got down the "must do" list far enough to begin repairing the race car......

last run was at Warrick '06 with dissapointing results because of lack of traction and then a fried clutch via attempting to do burnouts with 10 inch slicks strapped on the back 🤪...........(that was the call from the boss when i rang him informing him of the dissapointing traction and cosequent ET's)........

the 228mm, 4 puc clutch had lasted 4 years, but always suffered from slip due to the combination of a tall first gear, shirtloads of grip , but standard kombi pressure plate.....i'm sure it must be the only weak link left in there❗.......CURE?..........replace it with the biggest K.E.P pressure plate we could get and a new 4 pucka!

maybe it's taken the most part of 18 months to look this monster in the eye and work out where to start, but finally i have...............if man put it in there, man can get it out!

for all who complain about and delay pulling their aircooled motors from their cars (myself included).............try and get your head around this...............layers and layers and LAYERS!!!! of "must removes"..........




i can tell you there is H20 lines (separate intercooler and radiator circuits), vacumn hoses a plenty, fuel lines...........



BUT..........my personal faviourites are ELECTRICAL connectors..............injectors, sensors, solinoids they're everywhere 🥲!



there are several items that can keep the motivation up though.............anything to do with BOOST❗..........intake hoses, intercoolers, haltech controlled solenoids,

hellbugged ·

a couple of hours later, it looked like i had gone no where, but most of the brackets and support bars were gone............was feeling quite frustrated...........the amount of heat generated by 29 pounds boost meant that most of the hoses (water and intake) had come close to melting themselves fused forever (loctite sealent on everything compounds this problem too).........but hey, when your doing 260km/h through Bathursts chase, things not falling off is high on the priority list!!😎



a while later, i had green coolant everywhere (even some in the catch tray😂).........the water/air intercooler , it's pump and radiator were out............electrical connections (as a guess at least 20) dissconnected and labelled CAREFULLY!...........main engine coolant pipes removed and intake pipes removed from both sides of the turbo (remember me mentioning HEAT!😬)



just the exhaust and fuel lines to go...........a nice way to kill off 6 or so hours!.................but hey, whos complaining, after bug-in, i'm, itching for some more track time and plan to do as much as possible before the...

VW SPECTACULAR..........LAP DASH AUGUST 2008 !!!!!

..hee heeee..now that's a plug!!!!...........and your car will need to be able to do SESSIONS not just one lap😎.............cheap too!.......yeah baby!

reub ·

As they all say....VIDEO? 😂 👍

VWCOOL ·

Maybe buy yerself three or four trailer plugs/sockets and make a OE-style 'harness' when you put it back together

Baja Wes ·

You just need a dose of "harden up princess" 😁

Nice biscuit tin. 🙂

pete wood ·

harden up princess
^ 😂

loving my stock NA motor now. you can keep your haltech and turbo if it's that much stress. 😵‍💫

hellbugged ·

yeah, all for a laugh guys 🥲.....you may come to realize all the pictures will provide me a reliable, accesable reference to connections etc, should disaster strike and i loose my way😉

trailer plugs would be a nice addition, but it won't be me cuting into those looms🙅

..... the bench full of removed bits and pieces.....



........job done!







"why did i get this job❗..".......... oh that's right, i fried the clutch 😁



flywheel will be removed and "ground"..........to remove hardened hot spots and uneven surface.



we estimated the standard 228mm pressure plate and clutch had done only two hours work🤪.........but that's solid HARD work! (several years of racing)........very sticky tyres, tall 1st gear, shirt loads of torque + horsepower and not enough clamp force, combined with a total lack of mechanical sympathy........results in a little bit of heat 😂 📝



undoubtedly the replacement will last much longer........





clamp force will be over three times as much on previous set up...........



that's life in the hellfast lane 👍

hellbugged ·

well, that was easy!.......

just undo the six bolts and off the flywheel comes........no 8 dowels and interferance fits and pullers to contend with 🙅

i'm starting to dig this subie stuff!

flywheel has survived the ordeal ok and resurfacing will be fine



took some measurments of the new clutch and pressure plate to compare to the old set up..........flywheel will be ground to provide maximum clamp force by adjusting pressure plate height relative to the clutch plate surface

1303Steve ·

Hi

Kennedy make nice stuff, I just got my G50 stuff today from them. So you were running a stock 228 pressure plate with the puk clutch?

Steve

hellbugged ·

yeah stocka Steve, never worked........suffering from slip from day one

the puck clutch injested so much heat it is warped very badly and has a build up of metal that came off the pressure plate on the pads. closer inspection of the pressure plate sees gourges 5mm deep!..... we knew it would need replacement and just tried to get it down the track for the spectacle🙄..........i'm very suprised the flywheel has survived

i'm looking for the dyno sheets for the motor.......new set up is good for up to 500H.P so should be A.O.K

nice to meet you at Oran Park by the way

1303Steve ·

Hi

Nice to talk to you as well. I'm hoping for about 260 - 280 hp at the wheels, 500 should be insane.

Steve

hellbugged ·

o i see..........no, new clutch is rated to 500hp..........

.... engine currently makes 260hp at the wheels and will stay at that for the moment.........

pete wood ·

I too pulled my motor out last night. Only took 2 hrs. I guess I've had a bit more practice than you. 👎

BTW, love those EFI ida manifolds on the bench there. must be time to install them on something don't you think? 😉 [pete the broken record] 😁

hellbugged ·

oki doki....

got the flywheel done. looks heaps better! you may be able to see the swirl pattern from the grinding. checkout the operational surface area provided by the 228mm surface🤘

you can see the lip near the ring gear (pressure plate seat)
is also ground to keep the height correct.



further more to the plate seat being ground the matching amount, it had more taken to account for the thinner pads on the new clutch (opposed to standard plate) and also extra to lower the plate down onto the clutch to get even more "clamp".........

with the pressure plate sitting "relaxed" you can see the fingers of the diaphram rising up to the center........




now with the plate bolted down, the fingers should still be ever so slightly higher in the middle compared to their outer diameter mounting points..............this is a great indicator that the pressure plate installed height is good ... maximum clamping force with minimum pedal pressure🥷

hellbugged ·

ooorkay, so i've been quietly achieving progress on this machine, with an aim of just having it in storage , "race ready", for whenever the opportunity arises............

with the flywheel refitted and new clutch in place, the motor was ready to go back in. the bellhousing was cleaned up, necessary's greased (throw out bearing pivots, guide etc) and new thrust bearing (german) installed.

the standard liberty pipe from turbo to intercooler was long since blown apart, repaired track side, but never replaced. there was no way i could leave it. so a few options were sorted, as it's nice to arrive at race meets far from home with spares at hand...........



to avoid reinventing the wheel at this point, it has gone back together as it was previosly run. the samco model specific hose (wrx) will allow the use of standard recirulatory style blow off valve.

in the future, we have the option of going to a aftermarket BOV which can be plumbed into either the stainless "up" pipe or the one from the intercooler to T.B



so here is where i'm at now..............note the "workshop manual" taped to the back window😂 a picture says a thousand words❗............and people wonder why i do boring threads with too many pictures, but for sure they come in mighty handy🤓




the hands on experience has been great. i now understand all of the engines components and have spotted some room for small improvements with routing of fuel lines etc.............might even consider doing a subie conversion for myself down the track

matberry ·

I spot those manifolds too!!!

Daimo, you gotta put em on something.!!!

hellbugged ·

o.k
😎





they're the ones that were on the chop top Matt?

the butterfly tops (black with sassy exhaust pipe rams) of yours are about to come back into use

JVLRacing ·

bloody idiot🤪....looks goodly m8

matberry ·

the butterfly tops (black with sassy exhaust pipe rams) of yours are about to come back into use

Thats the ones !
They have been around.

hellbugged ·

RUNNING AGAIN

soo basically it all went back together fine. a couple of re arangments because of the new pipes, but nothing spectacular




went to start it and no fuel pressure at the engine. so the process of elimination lead us to the primary efi fuel pump which was seized probably due to "gumming" of residue fuel after the last run..........anyways got that sorted (not easy) and so it was time to fire up.

the engine sounds quite nasty on the warm up fuel curve from the computer, as soon as the temp reaches 50' it changes completely.

anyways, try this link for a video as i do the run around looking for leaks and noises having just got it fired up for the first time in 18 months.................damn sound has got me amped now i'm pretty chuffed with the results!

matberry ·

Daimo that sounds wicked. We need to see more.....like driving would be good....👍

hellbugged ·

yeah, it's ooorsum hey.

yes, should have some paddock action to check the new clutch works on Saturday (although it went into gear fine in the shed but no time left so fingers crossed)........and hopefully hillclimb 1st June followed by test and tune for the entre following day, then fingers crossed Grafton hillclimb with the other VW crews............

for now "hear's" 🤓 another;

matberry ·

Hey Daimo, incase you didn't notice, there's an onion on your throtle cable !!!

1303Steve ·

matberry wrote:Hey Daimo, incase you didn't notice, there's an onion on your throtle cable !!!
I thought I saw wood chips on the ground

bat69 ·

Hope to see you at grafton then..... me entrys sent off this week. Looks like the VW's will be out in force for this event.

reub ·

Sounds great👍

OZ Towdster ·

matberry wrote:Hey Daimo, incase you didn't notice, there's an onion on your throtle cable !!!
Ah you old dogs keep on falling out of the wood work

matberry ·

As opposed to you young fellas falling out of your prams😂

OZ Towdster ·

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

TheMiniMan ·

I used to run my brick (mini) at Grafton hill Climb many moons ago, dam good little hillclimb track for a mini :-)
Gota love that fist corner hey? :-) & the "Flip-Flop" nearly got me on my first ever run there, but i nailed every run after that :-)

i`ll be back there soon, i`m building some new toys to play with on the hillclimb scene , Yammy R1 powered special & a fastback twin cam turbo injected mini

I might even enter the duel cab kombi foir a laugh too :-)

good work & hope to see you there one day

OZ Towdster ·

bumped back

hellbugged ·

well it's actually the artist formerly known as the "onion"......

spending so much time in the woodwork he's now the "Lumber Jeff"

hellbugged ·

why they let us put these donks in our road regoed cars i will never know🤓...........check out the speedo needle after a tickle on the go pedal, on dirt with no traction and barely getting into the engines sweet area!

sorry about the crappy vid quality, kinda hard to hold and grab opposite lock one handed🤪..........will get some better footage (on a real camera) next week when we get the "navigators" seat mounted in prep for joy rides at VALLA SPECTACULAR LAP DASH😂

JVLRacing ·

not bad! still think mind sounded bett😂er

pete wood ·

looks to me like you need to Baja that notch 👍

hellbugged ·

JVLRacing wrote:not bad! still think mind sounded bett😂er
yeah yeah Johnny...............
got your ride sorted for this year?

..............o never mind, i organised sumthing for you.....


"can't beat em--- join them" they say!!...........welcome aboard JVL😂

JVLRacing ·

dumone wrote:
JVLRacing wrote:not bad! still think mind sounded bett😂er
yeah yeah Johnny...............
got your ride sorted for this year?

..............o never mind, i organised sumthing for you.....


"can't beat em--- join them" they say!!...........welcome aboard JVL😂
fuk me! which seat is mind😂

hellbugged ·

ooorkay, all washed and vacummed, ready for Valla..........




can't believe how many people i had to ask to ride passenger before i got some suckers signed up😀...........looks like Dassdubber (gotta get him used to 200+ H.P somehow), miss vw, and quick camper are up for a run.........welcome aboard don't forget your long pants, shirts and covered shoes.

get amped guys, the thing is running harder than ever before..........damn well couldn't even get it back to the garage without needing bulk ooposite lock............and that was going as slow as i could🤪

here's your view;

reub ·

Look forward to more footage dude 🙂
...getting more wound up to make mine go 'harder' too...hush hush👍

hellbugged ·

did a shake down yesterday.........running well (touch wood)...........making good use of that 75km/h first gear now with a clutch, but man it and second gear dissapear very rapidly😵

learning to hang the tail right out....in car video loading!

OZ Towdster ·

Have fun daimo and make sure you give them all a good scaring and show them what subie grunts all about.
Wish i was there but sorry can't be due to a sudden job rethink , but have fun all the same.
Hopefully if all goes to plan you will see a very quick towdster at the track in 2 years

Andrew

pete wood ·

did I hear a rumour that a subie powered notch blew up?

type3dub ·

Reckon you could mount the camera in car and take us for a spin? 🤘

OZ Towdster ·

Not for a while now as it had some what of a little fuel fire

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE ·

I would of chosen a word other than "little" lol... perhaps large!!

hellbugged ·

yeah got some good in car footage, but to big of a file to remote host..............anyone know of a video editing programme i can get hold of ??? i need to chop 30KB out before i can up load anywhere>


car will run again, new colours picked already, lined up paint and panel sponsor👍........maybe a few electrical wires to replace and obviously new fuel delivery lines.................not sure to stay soft or go to steel lines?

car was running better than ever with new clutch and turbo pipes, boost coming on much lower and peaking at 30pds..........which made the car much easier and predictable to drive than ever before. new clutch is great.

check out how much fun we were having on the trailer tyres for the first couple of days........(pages 5 +6).......

http://www.circlework.com.au/lightbox/index.php?module=media&category=gallery/0808/080801-04VallaVW/080801-raleigh&start=180

reub ·

Just use windows movie maker...

mactaylor ·

you two need to enter a drift battle!!!

hellbugged ·

yes, that's what we were having a feel of.............they hold them at the very same track as the spectaular (Raleigh).........and we were testing the potential of the notch for doing just that.

hellbugged ·

still looking for video editing programme if anyone knows one to download...........but anyways, got it fired up again today.

running well, re-routed and shortended most of the excessively long vacumn, water and of course the fuel hoses, looking much more organised in the engine bay now👍.....can't wait to get it painted and out again

pete wood ·

very nasty, pleased to hear it's been sorted out.

hellbugged ·

well, just read Ct's "09 resolution and it's got me thinking i'd better get keen on this thing again.

Wakefield is a must do and be nice to make it to a few hill climbs.........maybe QLD dyno day & Warwick for something different...........we'll see



watching these vids has helped for inspiration........these are from the weekend of Valla, straight off the trailer SKINNIES and all🥲.

we were having some half arsed drifting fun before everyone else arrived🤘.........almost got the three from the top of the hill at the 5.20 min mark





(watch out for a bit of colorful A.O LANGUAGE at the 6 minute mark of this one.....oops)

mactaylor ·

so the camera man was over hanging onto the camera hey😂

hellbugged ·

mactaylor wrote:so the camera man was over hanging onto the camera hey😂
yeah some small things are too much to ask from certain teenage prats 😠

hellbugged ·

been working hard to get this thing to the supersprint.......new platinum spark plugs, lots of lines (fuel, water, vacumn/boost, electrics) changed and re routed so shorter and better sorted, more secure....running great again!~

time to get rid of the gay green and look mean 🥷

YUCKY!



stripped down



actually wasn't too bad.....

hellbugged ·

Ummm, when was this supersprint....... next week? 🙅

🤪





hellbugged ·

THE SUPERSPRINT SAGA........a true tale of man V machine both possesed

well, after the fireball at Raleigh the engine damage was quickly repaired and engine fired up......all sweet.

the supersprint date had been set and we wanted this car there in an attempt to "proove" it's worth as one very fast VW.

a month out i loaded it onto the trailer and successfully set a date with the panel shop to have the rear end repaired and colour shot over the cacky green and purple......all good at a very nice price and low priority job as a consequence........the turbo was spooling up getting it up the ramps, all seemed good.

the trailer was taken to the sparkies to have the lights and electric brakes fixed up and my "ol man" was slowly coming around to the idea that he WAS the nominated tow vehicle owner/driver

with 13 days left to our departure date, a visit to the shop revealed one untouched notch, no probs still time, i decided to keep things moving and finished removing bumpers, tail lights and the rear window, then grabbing the sander and roughing up the paint and ridding all the flakey burnt bog and crap over the next two days........then back to work till the Friday one week before Wakefield meet.

a visit to the shop on the Friday again revealed one untouched notch .....and worse still i wouldn't be able to access it over the weekend to get anything else done

go to plan B

a couple of phone calls later and a rescue team was on the way to reclaim the car and a deal struck on the phone Saturday morning to have a friend over see panel work proceedings during the next few days to have the car ready for re assembly and a test session by the Wednesday before the supersprints......HA HA!

the ever growing team made it to the remote secret rebuild location whilst i continued work Saturday morning (well someone had to pay for all this!).........upon arrival mid afternoon, with no expectations for progress on the rear quater..........i was greeted by my smirking cousin and this scene..........the car kinda looked a bit "blanker" than usual as i approached it from afar🤪





it would seem some confusion had reigned in my absence as to how much was to be painted and what was to be a quick lick of paint on the rear was now somewhat of a larger project!!..........Lukes laughter that he had been the one to authorise a total respray was probably the equivelent to my dumbfoundedness over the situation with just 7 days till the start flag dropped over 700kms away from us..........apparantly my mate had picked over the crappy paint and decided we may as well respray the whole thing😍

so that was Saturday afternoon so i removed the last two windows and went back to work........a late night visit revealed that the holes from chrome strips been taken care of and most of the small dents filled ready for sanding the next day..........the plan was one bog, one high fill undercoat, one sand and one paint session.......

Sunday afternoon, the bog work was finished (well it's rough but we all understood the body is just a mule for what lurks beneath).........and a decision on paint colour had been made as we masked it up...

"red or blue"....

"not red........blue like that bucket"

"that's too dark, it's not straight enough"

"blue like that trolley"......

"yeah, that reminds me of Falcon GT tru blu.......sort of similar shaped cars, bit square, bit round"

"sounds patriotic, Jeff will like that, it'll do"

"ok, i'll order it Monday, you pick it up and we'll paint Tuesday"

Jeff still hadn't been told we were painting his whole car, nor what colour😂





goodbye gay green 🤘





it was Sunday evening when we shot it with a guide coat..we were enjoying the sunshine and out doors.....but that was about to change😠



sooooooooo Monday i had to stop at the local sign writers with cams manual in hand to organise racing numbers and battery triangle etc.....and did the 2hour trip to pick up the paint in my luch break that "the overseer" had ordered before rushing off to Newcastle to dyno his 9 second drag car (that's why he needed the $$ and was willing to work on the weekend)......back to work till 6PM for me then return to commence hand sanding the high fill coat..........."no need to take off every square mm of the guide coat" were the instructions..........we'll with no finger prints left on my hands and a couple of red bulls later.......i had done just that, finishing up at midnight.

even worse was that the wind was now howling and rain a certainty on Tuesday.......PAINT DAY😬



yeah well Tuesady was WINDY and WET, but there were breaks in it and i pushed on, the snow ball effect was happening and more parts were being prepped for paint between work shifts and a temporary booth was sorted........



"the oversee-er" arrived back on a high after lunch with his 125HP shot of nitrous giving his car instant boost and 480HP on tap when the trans brake was released........he had decided the 600KG car might need wheelie bars after all🤪.......he went for it, saying again that getting ALL the guide coat off was madness........we were pushing each other now🤓........the car was painted, looked great and the Wednesday would be spent on re-asembly YAY!!







THEN TUESDAY NIGHT.........it REALLY started to rain, wind everything!.........the ol faithfull booth LEAKED for the first time........wet paint got, well WET 😬

so Wednesday (again between work shifts) against any desires of mine whatsoever, as i swore my last ever sanding was finished Monday........ the whole car was colour sanded by, you guessed it........my hands.......which were now beyond lack of finger prints, and bleeding 🥲

Wednesday evening, it was resprayed while i went to work.......and even tho the weather was conituing to worsen, it somehow stayed dry....pheww



so that night i went and grabbed some parts to touch up at home while the paint cured and i was tired of being wet and cold anyhow.........we were now facing the serious possability of being flooded in 🙅

couple of more red bulls and these were masked up and painted in the garage at midnight........



while they dried, the missus helped cover the headlight glasses to comply with cams, and they were pieced back together just before bed time.........Thursday was already here before we hit the sack, so it really was do or die time❗

Thursday morning greeted me, wet, windy and cold........on the way to work just before 7am, the last strand on the freying clutch cable of my beetle let go.......i was gutted and rang my dad and told him to flip a coin right then and there........wether we went to the supersprint or not rested on the result......how many signs did i need that it just wasn't ment to happen🤘

well, after my shift, i changed that cable in 35 minutes flat and headed out to the notch, a plan in my head and parts for it strewen throughout my car, sheds and home........the session went well, removing the masking for the first time got the excitment happening........more red bull......... the rivets and washers i guessed the size of were right and to my surprise the perspex windows went in without craking.....



the bumpers went back in their place (although the rear ones battled because of the engine stabilisers being mounted there).......... and that was all i had time for......grabbed the trailer and started the car as the heavens opened up good and proper.......what happened next was madness.......the car was spinning the tyres trying to get it on the trailer and in the back of my mind i wondered quietly why it didn't boost up and slam the new body work fair into the side of the trailer......sadly the rush had tasken over and i didn't think too long or hard about it, i was soaked to the core and didin't have a minute to spare to get to work





the chevy only just managed to get the trailer out of the driveway..........and a team of us were now running seperate pieces to get organised.

Jeff was 4WD tractoring the slicks and spare accross his now flooded driveway on the other side of the valley.........so he could rendevous with us all in Nambucca where i could conitnue working on piecing the car back together and load the necessities in together while everyone slept .

Mark was loading my beetle onto the tilt tray to get it into town for me so i could get home that night

my father was en route to take the trailer off the chevy when i made it to work so he could match the wiring to his tow vehicle that afternoon before dark and add some more clearence lights to the aging float

somehow it all came together, the passengers seat still there from the VW spectacular was removed and every vacant inch of the race car was loaded with race suits, helmets, tyres, spares, tools, jacks.........and strangely Jeff had delivered a set of "cut" slicks even tho the car was already on "wets"...........perhaps the farmer had taken more of an interest in the the wether forecast than someone who had been stuck under a race car all week.......






well it was on the trailer and packed..........nothing else was, but the car was ready bar the stuff that still wasn't put back on yet (well we thought so🤪).....Thursday night 11PM




then things went down hill, i knew i was possesed, but unbeknowns at this stage, the car was too..............😘

izac ·

looks sweet daimo, well done man

hellbugged ·

yeah we'll, looks don't go fast unfortunately........

still the weather worsened Thrusday night while i slept (oops).......i didn't have enough red bull to keep myself awake long enough to pack my bags, but i did have the forsight to put my cams licence and paperwork in the race car (if i didn't have anything else i would be able to race still ) AND set the alarm.......

well, it really was flooding and the alarm never went off due to a blackout........i awoke an hour late and again asked dad to make the "yo or no" decision for me when i phoned him to confess that i was late and still not organised.........not his favourite trait of mine 😊

we did get away tho after the missus helped pack my bags and the rain and wind belted us all the way down to Sydney...........and then Golburn........i can honestly say the wipers were not turned off once during the entire trip.

Saturday morning we had a lazy start.......it was still wet and cold..... the list of things to do made weeks before was shrinking, but still long.

arrived at the track after stopping at the big sheep for some suitable 98 octane fuel and got the car off the trailer and into a nice dry pit lane shed...........and the gear unloaded from every nook and cranny

headlights went in, tailights back on (with the only reference to which wire where being a picture on my phone), dad put the wipers back on........Zane dried the car off so we could put the numbers and battery triangles on.......then he changed the harness to one that was "in date"..........coolant and intercooler liquid was topped up oil level checked and we headed for scruitineering........despite the tyres being on the wrong direction and lack of tow hook markers (i had bought some off ebay that didn't arrive in time).

man the car was running rough, but it does that some times and a quick squirt always did the trick in the past

well we copied the size of tow triangles off Boris' car in the scruitineering shed and put the wing mirror back on just in time............

the sighting laps and my first session came and went without me while we swapped tyres around and bled the brakes.........Zane fabricted a cushion for himself in the meantime and suited up and strapped himself in while we mounted the transponder on the roll cage........the door slammed shut and he headed for the dummy grid just after his group was called..........he didn't make it🙅

.........so again i hauled the car hurriedly back to the pits to mount the front splitter on and correct tyre pressures...........finally we were truely ready YAY!!

well, the anticipation of that first rush when the thing hits boost was eating me alive.............it's no relaxing drive in the wet and i was wondering if i would be brave enough to even get into the noise in third gear..........

Steve Carter sent me off from the start line and i flattend it waiting for the tyre spin of 260HP with no grip..................NOTHING, NOTHINg.........and still nothing.........i knew instantly it was lack of boost and didn't complete the lap.


opened the boot and started with the simple things......blow off valve signal vacumn line was split........too easy...........blat round the pits......still no boost

look deeper........ map sensor ok, wastegate not stuck, exhaust not leaking........

pull aircleaner pipe off the try and look in the turbo......no chance.......stick fingers in there, ouch HOT!!!........bite the bullet, it's hot, but it's also siezed 🙅........it moves a bit, then stops, then a bit then siezes..........the all of a sudden it spins freely.........Luke was there helping and tells a tale of their off road buggy having a drop of weld doing the same thing then dislodgining and the thing survived............could i be that lucky?

Sides wanders past and asks where the dislodged piece will end up?............i replyed "who cares"........and i ment it

re-assemble and off to the grid..........foot flat to the floor NOTHING😬...........it's stuffed

game over.

👍"THATS RACING" 👍

why?, how?, when? are the questions eating at me now.

i'm as keen to find out as i was to make the super sprints.......hopefully not too long for a diagnosis.........gotta wait for the floods to go down....

because the car is still in Kempsey, 70 Km from home.........where we left it..........the highway remains flooded and i caught the train back to my missus and reality from there.

what a week !!!!!

GTMac ·

The word from the pits Daimo was that some other disgruntled EJ20T Type 3 owner wasnt up for the competition and dropped some metal shavings into various spots around the engine 😘

Sorry to hear that, was looking forward to seeing it blast around the track. To me it sure looks a lot deeper blue than in the photos.............and imo much better than the green. What weight do you have that thing at now, it should be screaming? Im a touch over 1000kg and about 20hp down on your figures plus nowhere near the handling setup. Would have made some nice times.

1303Steve ·

Hi Damo

If we awarded a hard luck trophy you would surely get it, thanks for making the effort, I'm glad you got to have a few laps in Rods car at least.

Steve

hellbugged ·

😉..........yeah mate, i'm sure you did.

.........the one lap i did, it was handling great, i thought i was actually gonna have to pass the mini till he drove away on the back straight........

it's somewhere in the 900kg region from memory......i believe Jeff had it corner weighted

times.........well, i wanted to go there and run right along side Rudi.....next year

yeah Steve, i enjoyed my drive and the whole adventure..........apologies for the red mist descending and my brain fade resulting in me passing on the out lap in Rods car........there were plenty of hard luck stories around the paddock, i just hope it turns out to be something simple (well only a fried turbo)..........although number 3 cylinder wasn't firing, but that may well be a burnt wire from the fireball or a spat cylinder🤖.......who knows

happy to support the event this year, and in the future..........i always said i didn't go the the nationals because there was no racing anymore........so when there was, i wasn't going to miss it....... what a great format and venue!!!!........i will have the "spare" race car there next year too, just in case🙅

PLEASE lets do it again.

matberry ·

Sorry to hear of your escapades Daimo....thats race'n, all good fun 👍, better get ready for dyno day😁

hellbugged ·

yeah Matt.......looking forward to working on my street car again.........but i don't think it will be staying too street for long 👍.

anyways going through the motions to get number three cylinder firing we swapped coil packs, plugs then decided it wasn't either........went on to find a soldered signal wire from the computer had come apart and that sorted that. still no luck with firing and went onto find a terminal in the plug on the injector had slipped back and wasn't making contact.......so with those two repaired we were firing on all 4 again, YAY!

plug showed signs that it had been firing previously (they were only installed before going to the panel beaters)....so bad luck alone was the culprit for this going aray somewhere between home and Wakefield. 🤪

.......but there wasn't boost either 🙅

so we start nutting that out and having already dove into the inlet side of the little spinner trackside, it was decided to take a look in the exhaust housing.......so we took the exhaust off first

again we couldn't see anything in the blades nor feel anything through the wastegate, but turning it back and forth we could get it free spinning again. start the engine we could hear the turbo spinning, then a fluttering noise (like a kid on a bike with something clicking on the spokes)as again whatever it was in the housing would jam in there to once again stop the turbo spinning.

now feeling confident it wasn't a oil , nor H2O delivery problem.

it was obvious now it was something in the exhaust housing......although we were quite complexed as to what it was, as compression testing showed a healthy 165PSI accross the board and as such we felt it couldn't be anything that should have been still inside the engine.

so we pulled the turbos "up" pipe to have another go at copping a feel in that housing.........so up i go like a rookie proctologist to find some gunk in there.......grabbed the air blower and forced air back through the thing from the exhaust outlet side and for the first minute nothing fell out but the familiar "whistling of the blades (allbeit in reversed direction) was quite pronounced.......then some chunks dislogged splattering me in the face and the turbo could be heard spinning it's head off........

these chunks were about the size of a little finger interesting.....



i hadn't looked back down the up pipe yet, but this is what i found.......

one very messed up and loose catalytic converter......





so the heat shields were removed and pipe sectioned to remove what was left of the converter, then wleded back up again.......😎

soooooo getting rather keen at this stage of the evening, it was decided the local test track was begging for a lap and everything thrown back together about 6pm tonite............the best reason yet for having lights in your race car 🤘

........the familiar whistle was back as i negotiated the "pit lane", i didn't have dash lights in the boost guage nor rpm counter, but did in the speedo...............set the shift light at 6000rpm and when it flashed in 3rd gear in next to no time,i new that would be my last chance to look at the speedo 🥲

.......it was well past the 90mph and fourth gear was dissapearing damn rapidly too........👍

naturally the car still has issues, when i got back to the shed safe and sound, one of the headlights was GOOOOONE........how can you bounce a car 1600 KM on a trailer then take it for a 10 minute run to have the headlight dissapear on the side of the road?

possesed i say!

hellbugged ·

😵‍💫..........ha went and looked for the lost headlight this morning and found it a good distance off the road (albeit glass and bucket one side and reflector/bulb) on the other.........

amazingly none of it was broken despite the scars from a good couple of bounces on the tar......maybe my luck has finally turned.

for those who have asked me along the traps, turbo is IHI VF30......good bang for buck in the VF series before going to ball bearing, good quick spooling, to avoid lag with only slight loss on top end, great for high boost aps (the car is set to run 22psi, but problems with it cutting out with over boost now has programming to run 7 psi over the 22 when air temps etc have it making more).aside from it's prformance characteristics, choice for that turbo was partially made on the basis it was rebuildable........thankfully it didn't need it this time around

JVLRacing ·

🙅🙅🙅ouch

1303Steve ·

Hi Damo

Good read, what model motor is that. I didn't think the later models had a cat in the up pipe. I have VF 30 as well, came with the motor.

Steve

hellbugged ·

Hi Steve

motor is 2001/'02 (i think)...........however i suspect the exhaust might have came off the previous engine........i'll tell you what tho, with the heat shield removed, those up pipes are a fairly agricultural piece of work 🙅

will you run the VF 30 or ?

jzk25 ·

STi's don't have a pre turbo cat, only MY01-02 WRX have it. And yes, they often end up jammed in the exhaust housing. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes the piece of cat reprofiles the turbine wheel. Any normal up pipe will bolt in it's place but if you have factory management you need to either refit the exhaust temp sensor or put a resistor across it. Aftermarket management cares not.

1303Steve ·

Hi Damian

I think the VF30 will do for a start. With the little things Ive done and will do it should make a bit over 200kW at the wheels, plenty for a while.

Bigger intercooler, bigger cross pipe, 3 inch exhaust, boost up a little and Autronic SM4 ECU.

Steve

hellbugged ·

jzk25 wrote:STi's don't have a pre turbo cat, only MY01-02 WRX have it. And yes, they often end up jammed in the exhaust housing. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes the piece of cat reprofiles the turbine wheel. Any normal up pipe will bolt in it's place but if you have factory management you need to either refit the exhaust temp sensor or put a resistor across it. Aftermarket management cares not.
thanx heaps for your knowledge........so, going by that engine is '02 as i first suspected. HALTECH ecu, so no probs with changing it. cut it up and cleaned it out with the die grinder so will do for the interim till we get all our duckies in a row again

hellbugged ·

1303Steve wrote:Hi Damian

I think the VF30 will do for a start. With the little things Ive done and will do it should make a bit over 200kW at the wheels, plenty for a while.

Bigger intercooler, bigger cross pipe, 3 inch exhaust, boost up a little and Autronic SM4 ECU.

Steve
cool Steve,

200KW at the wheels is plenty for sure....if you come up for the Winter break earlier in the week, we can throw a few laps down at Raleigh to get you keen on finishing yours off......very similar specs.

jzk25 ·

VF30 should make 200kw atw at around 18psi. 18psi would be considered a safe boost level for an STi engine with good intercooling.

1303Steve ·

Hi

Thanks for the offer Damo, I will see what I can do about getting up earlier.

jzk25, are you aka Allen? I have a PWR air 2 water barrel intercooler.

Steve

hellbugged ·

jzk25 wrote:VF30 should make 200kw atw at around 18psi. 18psi would be considered a safe boost level for an STi engine with good intercooling.
cool, thanx again

what about on standard WRX motor, safe PSI would be?

what difference internally of STI motor and standard REX?

jzk25 ·

Yeah Steve it's Al that did your wiring.

Daimo, 200kw atw(all 4) is no problems for a std WRX engine if tuned nicely. An STi engine has forged pistons and rods(in 2001 on) larger cams, AVCS valve control, no tumble valves, 550cc injectors, semi closed block deck and a lot of other little differences. They can handle up to 300kw atw(with shortned life obviously).
I wouldn't go over 20PSI in a std wrx engine with good intercooling. Charge cooling is a big variable when mounted in a beetle so you need to be careful of that. You would be better going up to a larger more efficient turbo in a beetle as it probably doesn't need the low end power due to no weight and the larger turbo will free the engine up and reduce the chance of detonation. Something like a TDO5 20G with 8cm exhaust housing.

1303Steve ·

Hi Al

I thought was you, when I get mine running eventually I might look at things that can be upgraded on the outside, that's why I bought a STI motor, it has all the good gear from the factory.

Would a TDO5 20G be a good upgrade for a 2002 STI motor?

Steve

jzk25 ·

Yeah TDO5 20G has a 68mm compressor as opposed to 60mm of the VF30 and 35. You can also get 8cm exhaust housings which will free up the top end even more. As always there is a sacrifice in low end power but in a light car it shouldn't matter. STi engine in particular will happily rev to 8k rpm and make power there so the bigger turbo is a good thing.
Kando Dynamic is a good source for TDO5's.

hellbugged ·

well, i got the heebeegeebies and pulled the turbo off to make sure it was undamaged internally...........pulled the exhaust housing off to reveal no significant damage to the blades where it had been jammed.

so the car is pretty much ready to race again now it's got it CAMS compliant livery on again........even polished the alloy and painted the exhaust, the car won't know what's going on now😍











JVLRacing ·

looks smarter😎

hellbugged ·

spose i should try and get this thing to the Nationals super sprint again hey.....bring on the pressures of the internet 🙄

colonel mustard ·

DO IT!!

westi ·

lookin great with the paint,need's more tread though.you gota fill them guards up.

hellbugged ·

alrighty then 😀.........have had the child labour camp working on that one Westi........not up to making a nice cross over pipe yet tho, know anyone????

porsche cup wheels & tyres were a bit tarty after the fire extinghisher powder had a munch on them. 10 and 11 inch modi fodees fill those guards.........







hellbugged ·

ok we are on the way ❗

the child slave labour is working well 😎

the "practice" slicks have had the treatment too.....spit and polish and a good 10 coats of "RPM GRIP" (tyre softner).......that stuff is great for anyone with either new or aging race tyres!



.......but it's not all a "work only" policy. the lil one got to enjoy the fruits of her labour after a long day 😀



it must be in the blood 😏



DAMN TRAILER SAILORS!.....

first step with this thing is always the trailer, but have managed to trim through the list of things to do before an event attendance is even possible.

:locate trailer and ramps bolt on the tyre chocks 🤪
:thorough de-mulch, degrease and wash the tray
:find some decent rims to replace rusty spares and get tyres changed over
:search faulty wiring, end up soldering half of the wires in the broken loom, more at the back, re-insulate many joins of which the insulation had aged and no longer served it's purpose
:replace rear tail lenses and clean up terminals so they actually work
:solder all wires at plug end
:replace "break away" unit
:weld broken tie down points and search and locate chains
:wheel bearings and electric brake maintanance

trailers SUCK ! 🤘

..........but they do serve a purpose....

did a fuel system clean and fired it up.
up to temperature and sent a can of subaru upper engine cleaner through the engine......got it safely onto the float and now in the garage at home for those late night stints.

'tis not much, but it's a start for sure😎







as i was fiddling around with it this arvo, a teenage fella with autism came past and spent a good hour looking around and asking questions. the dude was an absolute motorsport nut and was stoked to strap himself in, put up the window net and shift up and down the gears. He was STOKED.......and so was i. it has been worth the effort already


making up a list for the car now, plenty to get done yet 🥲

matberry ·

Looking good Daimo, plenty o' time this year hey. Good luck.

reub ·

Looks sweet as dude! Not sure about internet pressures, but if you want some I'm happy to dish some out 😀

I'll have to get this aircooled 'bug' out of my system and start my own subie power upgrades...👍

hellbugged ·

reub wrote:I'll have to get this aircooled 'bug' out of my system and start my own subie power upgrades...👍
too funny as i'm working in the opposite direction.......🤪.........if only i can get this subie thing reliable, i'll be getting back to the ole faithful aircooled 🤘

matberry ·

hellbugged wrote:....if only i can get this subie thing reliable, i'll be getting back to the ole faithful aircooled 🤘
Bout time dude 🤪😂😂.

hellbugged ·

onto the car........

: re-wire tail lights and master cylinder so brake lights operable (more damage from fire) which took the best part of a day..............Rizzo didn't look too impressed on dummy grid when i sent someone to tell him they had failed again last year.......hopefully he might have to see them this time around 😂
: re done hardened fuel lines and pump wires at front of car away from radiator lines......added pre pump filter back under tank that was removed at Valla races 2008
: check front end components including bearings, pads for wear,calipers, tie rods,ball joints and steering.....bleed brakes and grease
: sort headlights
: fix front splitter
: fill and fully charge neglected battery
: clean out rat shit from interior
: change coolant, move turbo H20 return to correct side of engine 😊
: replace bolts and gaskets in de-cated up pipe
: install new air intake pipe and subsquent re arrangement of attached ancillaries
: treat K&N air filter
: insulate tank from heat and build radiator shroud (most likely some of the longest/hardest running the car has ever done SHOULD happen at Wakefield)
: check rear brake pads and lines then bleed
: clean engine bay of all soot and crap from the fireball (FINALLY)
: condense spares boxes down to at the most 2 boxes of "well shouldn't....... but could possibly happen" essentials
: "pallet wrap" 3 sets of freshly "softened" wheels
: get away for a test and tune before even putting it on the trailer for the trip
: engineer and blue slip in time to drive to Goulburn 😂 🤖.......forget the trailer 😂

.........and i'm still miles in front of last year!........back to it guys, check ya!

Craig Torrens ·

So does the VWRX need a test Pilot ?? !

hellbugged ·

yeah it does Craig..........you know the deal

"leave your pink slip with me before you go!"😏

and "no no officer, it IS the yellow one, we just finished painting it!"

JVLRacing ·

😎😎😎

rocknrob ·

that thing should be on the roads...what a great car👍

hellbugged ·

yeah Rob would be a great street drive.........but it really is way too fast for the street.........2nd gear finishes at 120+km/h and it takes no time at all to get that done

my licence wouldn't last long 😢

Craig Torrens ·

License..........whats that ? !

westi ·

definatly not enough children in your camp mate.

hellbugged ·

oh there's more, but not as keen as the littlest❗

........black soot around heat shield on repaired up pipe......looking for one in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!

been waiting for grimmspeed to restock hoping this would last, no luck........know of ANYTHING? (seriously❗)

76bug ·

try MRT in sydney for a catless up pipe they will prolly have something in stock

PAZZAN ·

Hi Damien keen to see it running properly hope you have a good day at wakefield this year you are due👍

hellbugged ·

thanx Paul........

A BIG DAY! 👍.......too tired to fill in the story, just pics for tonight

subaru factory up pipe with heat shielding removed. 🙅

welding where we cut and shut to remove cat is ok......but burnt a small hole in the flexi joint when we welded the heat shield back on :mad. Jeff has braised it as best as possible, the thing is so thin there, it was the only option



all rugged up



GRIMMSPEED gaskets are goooood.......heaps thicker, stainless steel.





strapped up okay



dump pipe is simple but effective.......and big!



turbo h2o return was moved........heaps better.



used to run back to here........🙅



factory air intake was cracked at turbo end.........unlean air sucked in at a massive rate= YUCK!





wasn't easy to do but factory one came out and silicon back in with out removing intake or turbo





H2o return finished up sweet and BOV recirculate line about 3 ft shorter 😎..........BOV is stuffed found seat from it in line, heat damage has us suspecting it had been leaking for a while



coolant back in and fired up!

colonel mustard ·

nice valla 97 mug.

lots of (sweeet) cars floating around at your place 🙂

hellbugged ·

some vids.....

creating some boost using the rear brake dyno 🤪.........needed it too as it gets clagged up with the rich warm up programme. good to oil up the gearbox anyways and rear discs are clean from rust again.

can hear the chatter of those gearbox straight cuts 🥷



interesting shot of the rear wheels

71-BEETLE-SEDAN ·

Hey damien,

wreckers had none nor did any of the second hand places round here sorry.

hellbugged ·

thanx for your efforts anyways matey, gotta love AVD for the comeradery.

catch up at Wakefield hey

hellbugged ·

alrighty a quick trip to Coffs and raid JVL's stash 👍.........so good BOV is here.

Of course the new stainless up pipe has arrived on the second working day after ordering..........or the first day after repairing and re-installing the old one 🙄........oh well, another step towards reliability

thanx Johhny!!!

JVLRacing ·

no probs😎

hellbugged ·

that dump and muff could very well work JVL.......will have a look tomorrow

Craig Torrens ·

You need a better Dump design, there's virtually nowhere for the gas to flow to !!

hellbugged ·

dump on the exhaust Craig?..........looks like the dodgy style where the wastegate just flows onto a square plate in that photo. it doesn't tho, its actually quite flowing..........

yeah looking at turbo smart BOV upgrade , but would still run recirculating style.

Craig Torrens ·

hellbugged wrote:dump on the exhaust Craig?..........looks like the dodgy style where the wastegate just flows onto a square plate in that photo. it doesn't tho, its actually quite flowing..........
the ideal would be for the wastegate dump to vent externally, or at least run parallel to the main pipe and blend in further away from the flange/turbo housing. This will stop the gasses "crashing".

hellbugged ·

yeah but at the flange, the wastegate doesn't have a seprate port to the main gasses............. it's one big phat hoooole already.

but yeah we are only ever one big ripple strip off a exhaust redesign

Jak Rizzo ·

Craig Torrens wrote:You need a better Dump design, there's virtually nowhere for the gas to flow to !!
I agree, that is very restrictive. Mine is similar to this pic but much shorter cause of the confined space. Michael South did mine. Exactly what Craig said, u need a splitter to stop the main exhast & the wastegate crashing into each other. I'm surprised u don't have a nice big 3 inch system?
How much power does your engine make? & what boost does it run? I've never read anywhere the specs on this car.
regards
jak

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:that dump and muff could very well work JVL.......will have a look tomorrow
ur on the right path😎

hellbugged ·

yeah okay Jak, i was thinking it would have to "intrude" into the turbo housing like that..........i appreciate your input as i'm not fully up to speed on all this subie "go faster" stuff just yet



this will have to do for next weekend









yeah it's 3 inches

specs....

02 crate motor
260Hp @wheels.......however this was with very dodgy liberty turbo to intercooler pipe,standard air intake pipe and oily "finer filter",standard plugs and up pipe with catalytic converter in it......which have all sice been updated......wether that has made a HP difference i don't know, but early boost and tourque is up for sure.

20 PSI boost controled by HALTECH E11
VF 30 turbo
liberty H2O/air intercooler
TGV delete and matched intake manifold
huge top entry injectors with 044 bosch main and carter lift pump malpassi rising rate reg
Kennedy 228mm four puck clutch and 2600pd pressure plate
commodore front radiator and VW golf intercooler rad

looking forward to good crossover and up pipes as well as port, polish and match the cast ends soon for another 20 or so HP?.......different cams sit in a box somewhere too

kombi box and axles with TALL straight cut albins gears and ZF limo diff

hellbugged ·

anyways, new stainless pipe went on, it's not the best design internally at the flexi joint but i expect as good as the factory at least for flow anyways...not bad for $99 and most importantly a quick delivery 🙄



this stuff makes me itchy just looking at it now....mmm fiberglass wrap



lucky for those nice thicks gaskets this time around......just matched up



new bov on and running again



then instead of fitting up the practice slicks,as well as the second seat and getting it back on the trailer for a test tomorrow (partly due to some f%$Ks breaking into cars outside at night)...........got a little distracted by this..........











so now there is only one way in and one way out.......we will see if it works

matberry ·

Should go alright Daimo 😀.

hellbugged ·

yeah Matt.....still enough to scare the shit outa me😵‍💫

matberry ·

😀

I'm looking foward to testing the baja I've been helping with. 550 hp and 17" of wheel travel.....WTF

Jak Rizzo ·

hellbugged wrote:looking forward to good crossover and up pipes as well as port, polish and match the cast ends soon for another 20 or so HP?.......
260HP @ the wheels!!! holy dooly. makes my 204 look lamo😂

I didn't get anymore HP with my ported headers & bigger crossover pipe, it just bought boost on earlier & a much smoother transition from off to on boost.

It's amazing that u run run 20psi with the standard Liberty intercooler. On the Liberty forums they reckon they don't bother with anymore than 16psi as it just wasn't designed from the factory for anymore. Have u modified it?
Maybe with one of those big PWR jobbies your engine would go nuts?

Can't wait to see your car run next weekend.

regards
Jak

JVLRacing ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:
hellbugged wrote:looking forward to good crossover and up pipes as well as port, polish and match the cast ends soon for another 20 or so HP?.......
260HP @ the wheels!!! holy dooly. makes my 204 look lamo😂

I didn't get anymore HP with my ported headers & bigger crossover pipe, it just bought boost on earlier & a much smoother transition from off to on boost.

It's amazing that u run run 20psi with the standard Liberty intercooler. On the Liberty forums they reckon they don't bother with anymore than 16psi as it just wasn't designed from the factory for anymore. Have u modified it?
Maybe with one of those big PWR jobbies your engine would go nuts?

Can't wait to see your car run next weekend.

regards
Jak
u should know by now jako...some of those nobbs on the lib forums piss in there own pockets!...damos car is proof in the puddin that it can be done..

Jak Rizzo ·

Saying that they can't do something with the factory equipment isn't pissin in their own pocket, If they said they can run 30psi on the factory WAIC & Damo can only run 20psi, then that is "pissin in your own pocket". I have actually found the RS Liberty guys & the WRX guys to be informative & more than willing to share their experiences, wether they be good or bad. I think because their starting point is a performance car, that they are less prone to the mentality of "Mine is better then yours"
u only have to look through the dyno sheet section on Rexnet for evidence of that. They put up dyno sheets for every modification under the sun.
I think it's great. If something goes wrong they are more than forethcoming with that info as well.
regards
Jak

bat69 ·

I too did not make a massive amount of HP when I changed the dump pipe and uptake pipe on my Liberty rally car. I did how ever move the point in RPM where my boost came on and where max HP significant lower in the rev range. Basically boost at idle and max boost around 4500 (although I did run a Motec ECU). Prodrive/subaru performanve heads actually are better unported and un polished. Subaru did a great job from the factory

JVLRacing ·

Well done Damo....
Cars goes extremely good, i was stoked on the performance....
Yes Damo tested the beast at Raleigh today😎
Gearbox is strong and there is no way will a standard L box or kombi will cope with that punishment🤪....

I was a passenger and still wanted more😂

JVLRacing ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:Saying that they can't do something with the factory equipment isn't pissin in their own pocket, If they said they can run 30psi on the factory WAIC & Damo can only run 20psi, then that is "pissin in your own pocket". I have actually found the RS Liberty guys & the WRX guys to be informative & more than willing to share their experiences, wether they be good or bad. I think because their starting point is a performance car, that they are less prone to the mentality of "Mine is better then yours"
u only have to look through the dyno sheet section on Rexnet for evidence of that. They put up dyno sheets for every modification under the sun.
I think it's great. If something goes wrong they are more than forethcoming with that info as well.
regards
Jak
Stick to Mr South...

JVLRacing ·

Damo, the pic of the 3inch ceramic pipe that i talkin to u about...
U now have also😂
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq20/JVLR32/untitled.jpg

hellbugged ·

glad you enjoyed Johhny!!........not bad for a 1000kg sedan hey

it's a beast for sure.....kombi box, hmmmmmmm, not many gearboxes you can PUNCH back to first gear mid corner, boost up to 60km/h sideways on 10 inch slicks then whack second without loosing the drift and contiue flat till it straightens up hey 😁.......i know you cant disagree after this arvo 🥷 .........how sweet is the sound of those straight cuts combined with smell of burning rubber!

ummm yeah it's a drivers car on Raleigh, out powering the track by shirt loads.......i saw 70mph on the speedo several times and that's with the 225/50/15's taking the accuracy back 10%.....can't wait for the fee flowing Wakefield.


yeah well Jak, was making 30psi all day........Jeff has said he has seen it on the guage before, today i had a few looks at it reading just that!..........i too have been told the intercooler would be too small for that level boost, with it prolly producing near the same HP with much less .........originally tuned to 20 psi, it would cut out if it overboosted, so Jeff had it re-programmed to accept more even tho it didn't often make any overboost..........maybe with all the exhaust and intake improvements it is going to make it up high in the PSI regularly now..........maybe it will go POP too 🙅

maybe a simple boost T manual control in the line will be enough to save a trip to the dyno or computer guru?

i'm going to look into the operation of the haltech waste gate solenoid a bit more too.......ideas on how to tell its working?

anyways Johnny i said it felt inconsistent on one particular corner and found the rear left lower shock bolt GONE when i got home. effectively also disconecting the sway bar on that side as well. that and some issue with fuel flow out of the tank........maybe as simple as not enough fuel to fill the in-tank surge bowl quick enough as it was getting low........or maybe some blockage there.

apart from that, motor, gearbox, cooling, handling and brakes STRONG❗

JVLRacing ·

lol....😂 the car is real strong damo....really it will prove some good times...
Those probs glad u discovered it and thats the idea of a shake down.

STRAIGHT CUTS only way😎

hellbugged ·

just one other problem........found some claw marks in the passenger seat 😀

JVLRacing ·

nah😂 luved it.....u gave me incentive motivation pull my finger out

mactaylor ·

good stuff daimo am sooo jealous as mine is still in the build, makes me think about saving for a kombi box thou!!! will come up to wakefield on saturday and drink a few cans to drown my sorrows.

hellbugged ·

yeah, can't wait now!............

got the boost under control with a manual adjustment........slightly ahead of last year as we were just in undercoat at this point 😠 Radiator shroud is completely done and heaps of heat proofing at various points of the car is now complete

......and welcome a new driver to the team who thought parting his car out would force an end to his racing days 👍 ........

Jak Rizzo ·

I can't wait for this weekend either Damo! Look forward to seeing u have a strong day on the track.

Does JVL still remember how to drive a manual?

jak

hellbugged ·

not Johhny........someone you have liked the set up of their car for a long long time now!

Jak Rizzo ·

Oh wow Daimo, now I'm really excited!

I'm racking my brain, I have so many favourite Aussie cars! Can u at least give me a hint?, what did they used to drive & how long ago?

jak

Jak Rizzo ·

PAUUULLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYY ZANNNNNNNNNEEEEELLLLLOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁

hellbugged ·

yeah he's still fresh, so for sure i'm the "second" driver now.......will be nice to sit in the stadium and watch the car at full pace in the hands of a competent racer

JVLRacing ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:I can't wait for this weekend either Damo! Look forward to seeing u have a strong day on the track.

Does JVL still remember how to drive a manual?

jak
POKE MY TOUGNE at u🤓

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:yeah he's still fresh, so for sure i'm the "second" driver now.......will be nice to sit in the stadium and watch the car at full pace in the hands of a competent racer
wtf.....drive it urself🙅

STIDUB ·

daimo, i think im gunna have to say hi at the nats, looking forward to watching on sat, gotta impress as much as superlap at eastern creek on friday though👍

hellbugged ·

oh hello STIDUB.......... was wondering when you would discover this thing being so similar to your ride.......for sure stop in and have a look.......happy to pick your brain on this subie stuff

yeah JVL, i'll be driving..........nice to be driver/crew chief as boost level is in my hands for BOTH drivers 😂

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:oh hello STIDUB.......... was wondering when you would discover this thing being so similar to your ride.......for sure stop in and have a look.......happy to pick your brain on this subie stuff

yeah JVL, i'll be driving..........nice to be driver/crew chief as boost level is in my hands for BOTH drivers 😂
I think paul might shit himself....lol😂

hellbugged ·

JVLRacing wrote:
hellbugged wrote:oh hello STIDUB.......... was wondering when you would discover this thing being so similar to your ride.......for sure stop in and have a look.......happy to pick your brain on this subie stuff

yeah JVL, i'll be driving..........nice to be driver/crew chief as boost level is in my hands for BOTH drivers 😂
I think paul might shit himself....lol😂
ha......no he doesn't HAVE to ride with me 😂

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:
JVLRacing wrote:
hellbugged wrote:oh hello STIDUB.......... was wondering when you would discover this thing being so similar to your ride.......for sure stop in and have a look.......happy to pick your brain on this subie stuff

yeah JVL, i'll be driving..........nice to be driver/crew chief as boost level is in my hands for BOTH drivers 😂
I think paul might shit himself....lol😂
ha......no he doesn't HAVE to ride with me 😂
COMEDIAN......😂

Maybe u should take jako in it, show him how a subie powered vw should be driven....😎

STIDUB ·

hellbugged wrote:oh hello STIDUB.......... was wondering when you would discover this thing being so similar to your ride.......for sure stop in and have a look.......happy to pick your brain on this subie stuff
similar?? whats similar, yours actually goes! 😂
ive been lurking in this thread for awhile anyway :P

Jak Rizzo ·

Maybe u should take jako in it, show him how a subie powered vw should be driven....😎 [/quote]

Nice try JVL, how about I take U for a drive in MY car, then u can tell people that u have actually been in a WRX powered beetle.

That runs.

Jak

colonel mustard ·

Feel the burn JVL... he who has the power may speak, and clearly, he has!

JVLRacing ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:Maybe u should take jako in it, show him how a subie powered vw should be driven....😎
Nice try JVL, how about I take U for a drive in MY car, then u can tell people that u have actually been in a WRX powered beetle.

That runs.

Jak [/quote]jako ...if i wanted to go shopping i would drive myself....cause iam sure i could fit all the food in my boot....
ohw urs runs after a blown motor and gearbox hhhmm

bajachris88 ·

So, we will have the pleasure of seeing this thing fly at Raleigh late July/early Aug :P?

I remember the incident vividly from the sideline, We glumped when we saw the leak and just stood silently when it all went to shiz. All that work and hrs u put in catching alight. None the less u didn't give up, a thousand kudos for dusting yourself off and making it live again. What a champion effort, would be an honor to see it speed through the tarmac again. Great ending to a tragic story, and a new beginning for some high speed fun hey 👍

JVLRacing ·

nicely said chris...

Damo has been knocked down and deffently show people how to get back up.....😎

Craig Torrens ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:Maybe u should take jako in it, show him how a subie powered vw should be driven....😎
Nice try JVL, how about I take U for a drive in MY car, then u can tell people that u have actually been in a WRX powered beetle.

That runs.

Jak [/quote]

😂😂

reub ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:Maybe u should take jako in it, show him how a subie powered vw should be driven....😎
Nice try JVL, how about I take U for a drive in MY car, then u can tell people that u have actually been in a WRX powered beetle.

That runs.

Jak [/quote]

LOL...
hmmm...wonder where his engine ended up?

hellbugged ·

ah yeah thanx Chris, that's very kind, i don't know what i'll do if i have an event where this thing goes at the begining of the day AND the end......it always seems worth the adventure tho

....hello Reubs, what you doing over here in non-VW conversions? 🙁

well this time last year we had just finished the blue paint in secrecy. This time around i thought i'd keep a little story of the preparation it takes to make an event 🤪 .........done it a few times now and still can't believe what it takes

wrapping the third set of wheels for transit....blown tyres are enough to wreck a weekend so having a few brings some piece of mind, blown turbos suck too, so i've packed a brand newie in the spares as well 😎



crew was on duty again.....😍



"the mistress" got a wash and vacumn, Johnny's seat removed, re-aranged tank breather and is ready for the trailer........





..........just looking forward to a good weekend ahead now, catching up with a few friends and the road trip..........i hope one day in the not to distant future JVL and Mr Torrens will be in attendance as well

Jak Rizzo ·

Jak [/quote]
ohw urs runs after a blown motor and gearbox hhhmm [/quote]

What?

I have to stop replying to u JVL. I have to drop my IQ points so far to respond, that at this rate I'll soon be in double digits.
I'll end up with a pencil stuck to my forehead just to use the keyboard & all my solids will have to be liquified so that I suck them through a straw.

If I listed my greatest acheivment as having my car in the Zoom yearly poster book, after spending over $200'000, I would take a photo of my head & use it as the stupid smily icon in all my posts.

Daimo, really looking forward to this weekend. I have saved a pic of your slicks in the lounge room, next time my family is complaining about vw's, I'm showing that to all!
Gold mate.
But then again, it makes sense, don't want to get the slicks dirty 😂
regards
Jak

JVLRacing ·

Jak Rizzo wrote:Jak
ohw urs runs after a blown motor and gearbox hhhmm [/quote]

What?

I have to stop replying to u JVL. I have to drop my IQ points so far to respond, that at this rate I'll soon be in double digits.
I'll end up with a pencil stuck to my forehead just to use the keyboard & all my solids will have to be liquified so that I suck them through a straw.

If I listed my greatest acheivment as having my car in the Zoom yearly poster book, after spending over $200'000, I would take a photo of my head & use it as the stupid smily icon in all my posts.

Daimo, really looking forward to this weekend. I have saved a pic of your slicks in the lounge room, next time my family is complaining about vw's, I'm showing that to all!
Gold mate.
But then again, it makes sense, don't want to get the slicks dirty 😂
regards
Jak [/quote]

Your intelligence!...IQ? Dig deep idiot...and keep blowin out of ur trumpet!.....
Always praised ur car for wat its worth !......🤪

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:ah yeah thanx Chris, that's very kind, i don't know what i'll do if i have an event where this thing goes at the begining of the day AND the end......it always seems worth the adventure tho

....hello Reubs, what you doing over here in non-VW conversions? 🙁

well this time last year we had just finished the blue paint in secrecy. This time around i thought i'd keep a little story of the preparation it takes to make an event 🤪 .........done it a few times now and still can't believe what it takes

wrapping the third set of wheels for transit....blown tyres are enough to wreck a weekend so having a few brings some piece of mind, blown turbos suck too, so i've packed a brand newie in the spares as well 😎



crew was on duty again.....😍



"the mistress" got a wash and vacumn, Johnny's seat removed, re-aranged tank breather and is ready for the trailer........





..........just looking forward to a good weekend ahead now, catching up with a few friends and the road trip..........i hope one day in the not to distant future JVL and Mr Torrens will be in attendance as well
NICE😂

colonel mustard ·

But in the end, Jak is the one who actually has a vw that he drives, cause he manned up. And, to top that, you can read his posts. Most people appreciate that... Except for maybe 68autobug...

JVLRacing ·

colonel mustard wrote:But in the end, Jak is the one who actually has a vw that he drives, cause he manned up. And, to top that, you can read his posts. Most people appreciate that... Except for maybe 68autobug...
Never disagreed mustard that he hasnt!...
Really if i had to do it again i would of done a basic simple build like jako did..... jako forgets and has a small memory of the advice i have given to him...So yeh he has smoked me...maybe he does that to all people that help him❗

reub ·

hellbugged wrote:....hello Reubs, what you doing over here in non-VW conversions? 🙁
Stuffed if I know... 🙂 Maybe I've been secretly working on mine and just not sharing. 😊🙅

colonel mustard ·

reub wrote:Stuffed if I know... 🙂 Maybe I've been secretly working on mine and just not sharing.
that would make me smile 🙂

hellbugged ·

🙄...

Craig Torrens ·

Have a good one Daimo..............I would love to come, but apparently EVO's aren't welcome 🙅😉

PAZZAN ·

c,mon Craig when am I going to see all these high hp 1916s on a circuit sure u got one laying around❓

hellbugged ·

thanx Craig!.........

see you soon Paul 😎







STIDUB ·

did you buy shares in glad wrap? 😀

hellbugged ·

😵.........no no PALLET wrap donated by the local paper products wholesaler........"THE PAPER BOYS".......thanx Albert

JVLRacing ·

hellbugged wrote:thanx Craig!.........

see you soon Paul 😎







LOL nice packing damo.....lookin forward to hear some good lap times from u and pazzan😎

Craig Torrens ·

1.08's would be nice 👍

hellbugged ·

went close Craig 🥲

still not sure how to put the days racing into typo just yet.........but we got it there, it went and drove it back on the trailer, so yeah happy

vidoe editor still down so these three when watched in order make more sense







pretty sure Paul has some good on-board footage, can't wait to see that!

STIDUB ·

daimo, so when is it getting some slightly improved brakes up front, when the wheels were off i was shocked to see they were stockies, perhaps a look at jak's would benefit?

1303Steve ·

Hi Damian

It looked and sounded sweet. Did you go straight home, I thought you might have come on Sunday.

Steve

1303Steve ·

Hi Damian

If you need them for the Notch that's cool with me, they were for down the track anyway.

Steve

hellbugged ·

yeah we will be looking at it before Valla show Steve so you can pick them up then if it's not gonna happen.......it's not that far away hey 🙅

got out of there just before the cold dropped down and to the RSL for a feed and BEER.....stayed the night and early haul home by 5pm Sunday after dropping bro off in Randwick

brakes weren't real good, still fun

thanx organisers, fello competitors, friends and family for the support

Craig Torrens ·

Looks good Damo 👍.

You will need bigger brakes....and get good quality (race) brake fluid,then you will be able to brake a lot later into the corners with confidence.

Great work mate 😎

JVLRacing ·

😂😂.....good stuff damo😎

Jak Rizzo ·

Imagine how quick u will get it going with some bigger front brakes & some more time in the drivers seat! Really it was your first "proper" drive around Wakefield too.
I'm glad u finally had a trouble free run, well deserved after all your hard work.
Did I read correctly elsewhere that your car is swing axle?
Holy dooly Daimo, that is so impressive!
Well done.
regards
Jak

hellbugged ·

thanx jak

It my first time anywhere beside raleigh. I enjoyed racing with you its amazing how much more confident i felt coming up to the people i know rather the drivers and cars i knew nothing of....not that there were any problems with the others or their abilities....just a trust thing, thanx for the tech and moral support during the lead up and day

No its not swing axle, the red glitter buggy has been labeled the heltoy and confused me too...its certainly a crazy swing axle!

Clearly paul was going to run the times the car was capable of and he was keen to play with the suspension settings to gain more time.....but he very justifiably lost confidence in the brakes

Got some more video footage that will have your sweet as beetle in it yet to load

Jak Rizzo ·

Like I told u, I had the exact same brakes that u currently have on my car when I did my conversion, 3 laps of Eastern Creek & they turned to mush for the very first time.
Just upgrade the front ones & they will be fine.
On our last run out together, when u were warming up the brakes, accelerating & braking, I could not believe how fast your car accelerated! The potential of these little engines is amazing. I was thinking that u could fit one of those PWR barrel WAIC, get it on the dyno & checked etc, it would be a monster!
regards
Jak
PS your car looks stunning with the black wheels

hellbugged ·

firstly thanx to ALL the people involved in the days organising.......Chris, Herb, Steve C.......Rudi and those i don't know the names of and the ones we don't even see on the day!.....it was nice to catch you all...

...without all the competitors it would just be wasted paperwork.......so congrats to those that put the effort in to have a day of racing fun too

.......hello again to the new and old faces who had a look at the consatant wheel nut tensioning, brake bleeding and tyre changing in the pit box........Dave S, sti Dave and the boss lady, Birchal, Wayne, Boris, Rod, Steve M..... Craig and Paul for the top photos.....Stevie Nat, Jak, Guy H.......even ledgend Shimmo stopped by to offer encouragement and support......i love the comeradery the scene has.......i'm sure there were others too........THANX

special thanx to my family that make what really is a big adventure possible..... my father, brother, daughter,sister, son, uncles, cousin ALL chip in when the need arises, not just on the day but during the loooong preparation too......appreciate it guys

oh and there is the missus and of course Jeff for letting me play race car driver for a day

mates JVL Stacey and Gannon....you all know why i couldn't go without ya

.......not to mention Paul Z for the PATIENCE, knowledge support and sensible influence on the day

BRAKES


yeah Dave........guess that's the problem when you take a hillclimb car and run supersprint.........yeah spoke to Jak about it all and the 911 hubs and rotors i was supposed to deliver to Carter's are now looking quite interesting

the brake bias and performance has always been more than adequate with hillclimb requiring quick pad temp reaction and only a few applications on a run..........stopping was not the problem, just the frequency of it...........they are slotted with competition fluid and pads......sadly still not enough

car was pulling top end of third/bit of fourth gear up to the hill, back to the middle hairpin and along the back straight to the last corner..........meaning 3 apps around the "fairly fast" mark........then the big one at the end of the straight were i suspect speeds were in the region of "quite fast"area! WOW.............on board footage will confirm this if we can see the tacho..........something we both confessed to only getting the odd glimpse of on the day .........shift light "WHAT SHIFT LIGHT" .........tell tale memory on tach showed 8000rpm for us both

loads of opposite lock in ALL gears and speeds....certainly makes you feel alive

Paul jumped in the seat after my first run asking how the hell did i stop it......."it's fine" i said until i realised he really did have the pedal on the floor. they were boiling once the car was standing after each run



yeah happy it ran hard.

after loosing pedal and bleeding after each of our 2 runs (one each on old tyres and another on the gooderer ones)........we were making every second dummy grid for each of us.......decision was made to bleed whole system dry and crack a brand new fluid bottle in and through.

the new plan being to ramp up the boost and have one good lap at a great time instead of 4 to try and keep the car out there

having just finished this, Paul instiinctly kicked the rear left just as i dropped it back on the ground........it looked like the rear wheel was about to fall off ........the trailing arm bush at the pivot box was completely absent !!!!!!!

don't know which run it departed on, but the symbolic hand shake between drivers showed it was the end for 2010 VW nats supersprint for us

Paul had done a 1:12.02 during his first stint in the car on the old tyres!






but lost confidence in the brakes in his run on the good slicks after menacing the BMW for a bit (fair reaction tho)......not sure of times here, but loading vids may give an indication

i managed a 1.15 in the traffic on the first run......that was fun cutting through the field again but







and then wrestled a 1:10.76 lap out of it the second run







by the way.....we only ran 18PSI boost for the entire day and ramping it up was a "must do" on the days running notes ........

hellbugged ·

😎......i had the feeling you were watching that and thought you might be enjoying it too......i sure was. it must have looked rather PHAT with those black wheels from behind........i had a quiet chuckle to myself as Paul drove away through the pits, having forgotten just how crazy it looks. wish i had a photo from the rear

"in car" will show how much work it was to keep it on the track (well for me)........quicksteer, although unnoticed when piloting, plays a BIG part to give the driver an unfair advantage in the wrestling match 🤓

yeah sounds like a plan Jak..........now reliability engine wise, is coming together, we can move forward with the rest of the car too.

the ducting around the radiator played its part during both warming up to get off the RICH start programme............and held temps in the high 90's for the stints..........the fuel tank was much much cooler too❗

we have a big LMS engineering WAIC there.......got to do a proper breather box as the fumes were again filling the cabin until we race taped the crap out of the firewall.

Jeff is excited again and as with the usual development of a race car the trailing arm bush will be replaced with greasable bronze ones both sides. Surprisingly the arms were never gusseted on this machine (which was usual practice at hellbug).........so they will be "boxed" completely for extra stiffness and constant camber/toe before long too. as usual keeping weight in mind with this process

naturally one thing leads to another so a more stable sway bar attachment will be fabricated as well

brakes will for sure be ducted either way. through the indicator holes in the front and most likely NASCA ducts in the rear windows.........there are boxes of options in the stores for front rotors and calipers, just a matter of nutting it out

thanx again

hellbugged ·

👍.......Paul's much cleaner lines are obvious here......so are the fading brakes





JVLRacing ·

luv it .....cars deffently capable to do better, easily another 3 to 5secs of those times well done daimo ,paul..

vassy66T1 ·

That is fantastic! 👍

Looks an absolute treat and is turning in quite nicely.
Look forward to catching up.

STIDUB ·

hellbugged wrote:.......hello again to the new and old faces who had a look at the consatant wheel nut tensioning, brake bleeding and tyre changing in the pit box........Dave S, sti Dave and the boss lady, Birchal, Wayne, Boris, Rod, Steve M..... Craig and Paul for the top photos.....Stevie Nat, Jak, Guy H.......even ledgend Shimmo stopped by to offer encouragement and support......i love the comeradery the scene has.......i'm sure there were others too........THANX
sti dave?
Boss lady?

i sound like a diseased freak with a manager 😂

ill let her know the new title, sure she will get a laugh from it, and i should get... 😘

colonel mustard ·

Next time i get in dave's car.... Oh hey Boss lady! how goes it!

hellbugged ·

ON BOARD VIDEO


Damien's first run in traffic on old slicks (1:15 seconds......BLOODY TRAFFIC!).....was just glad to make boost after crossing the start line.........that was an improvement over last year already 😂



Paul's first run EVER in the car, on the old slicks........equaling his times in his race beetle last year (1:12 seconds)



Damien on good tyres........(1:10.70 sec)



Paul on the good ones.....no trust in brakes at this point, ....... runs 1.11sec here

hellbugged ·

STIDUB wrote:
hellbugged wrote:.......hello again to the new and old faces who had a look at the consatant wheel nut tensioning, brake bleeding and tyre changing in the pit box........Dave S, sti Dave and the boss lady, Birchal, Wayne, Boris, Rod, Steve M..... Craig and Paul for the top photos.....Stevie Nat, Jak, Guy H.......even ledgend Shimmo stopped by to offer encouragement and support......i love the comeradery the scene has.......i'm sure there were others too........THANX
sti dave?
Boss lady?

i sound like a diseased freak with a manager 😂

ill let her know the new title, sure she will get a laugh from it, and i should get... 😘
mate i was wondering what you were up to watching us bleed brakes for a loooong time........very patient!

worked out who the boss was when a clearly audible voice said "If you don't introduce yourself soon, I'll.........?"

don't know why but i put 2 and TOO together and knew instantly it was STIDUB 😎..........glad you stopped by, always nice to bounce ideas of others.......say hello to the boss for me 😂

Craig Torrens ·

You need to buy a new Tacho.............that one has blacked out 😂😉

So when's the next supersprint outing, like Eastern Creek or Wakefield again ?

hellbugged ·

Craig Torrens wrote:You need to buy a new Tacho.............that one has blacked out 😂😉
well placed photoshop spot........can't give away too much 🤪

.......nah wish it was there, but hey, it wouldn't have mattered if not one other person was there or knew about it, just stoked the car is finally heading in the right direction........it's been years!!!

Craig Torrens ·

yeah good to see it getting used 👍

STIDUB ·

hellbugged wrote:
STIDUB wrote:
hellbugged wrote:.......hello again to the new and old faces who had a look at the consatant wheel nut tensioning, brake bleeding and tyre changing in the pit box........Dave S, sti Dave and the boss lady, Birchal, Wayne, Boris, Rod, Steve M..... Craig and Paul for the top photos.....Stevie Nat, Jak, Guy H.......even ledgend Shimmo stopped by to offer encouragement and support......i love the comeradery the scene has.......i'm sure there were others too........THANX
sti dave?
Boss lady?

i sound like a diseased freak with a manager 😂

ill let her know the new title, sure she will get a laugh from it, and i should get... 😘
mate i was wondering what you were up to watching us bleed brakes for a loooong time........very patient!

worked out who the boss was when a clearly audible voice said "If you don't introduce yourself soon, I'll.........?"

don't know why but i put 2 and TOO together and knew instantly it was STIDUB 😎..........glad you stopped by, always nice to bounce ideas of others.......say hello to the boss for me 😂
😂😂😂 just know i dont like being interupted when im doing something important, not about to poke my nose in when someone else is busy either, the woman on the other hand... patience isnt her strong point 😂 besides if your brakes were better i would of been able to introduce myself the first time!

HOPEFULLY ill at least have mine bolted together & you can have a look at valla 👍

hellbugged ·

okay rear calipers were seized, but got it sorted.......

3 of the 4 trailing arm pivot bush's were completely absent and now replaced with nylothane. needless to say its looking much more controlled in the rear now

some front ducts done and loaded ready for Valla..........packed the wets 🙅

PAZZAN ·

no rear brake no bush's you trying to kill me or something🙅

Jak Rizzo ·

he wasn't trying to kill u Paul, he was testing u.

U passed, you're alive!😁

Jak

vassy66T1 ·

😏

hellbugged ·

OHhhhhhhhh there it is!.............."Stop looking Jeff, it's under here!!!" 😉

Stanley ·

Looks nice and shiny Daimo....time to get some rubber on it👍

hellbugged ·

Got to get it running first, hasn't been started since 2010 🤪

You coming down for a look see this year Stanley?

hellbugged ·

........Seriously tho, unlike the "norm" for us, we've actually been chipping away for a few weeks.

BIG wheels have some radial slicks opposed to the old ply style ones. This should work better with the amount of camber the car is running. They bit fatter too at 265 fronts and 290 out the back......pitty they not brand new, but have enough life in them to test the theory. All the tyres are being coated with slick softening treatment "GRIP" at the moment, as per usual



New kombi master cylinder has helped feel on the pedal heaps. It's 21mm bore over the old 19. Bit of fiddling with new hard lines and lengthening of pushrod to get it in. New race fluid of course (easy task with a vacumn bleeder 😍)



Rear needed some new bearings both sides.



Back together okay....and swapped out the standard falcon line to braided teflon after this pic was taken.




....Gotroundtoit with the NACA ducts for rear brakes. Front ones come in through the now removed indicator holes.0



Got side tracked talking about how we'd rather be fitting the oxyboxer that's waiting VERY patiently.....





Charged the battery, serviced the air cleaner, primed the fuel up to pressure with the pumps, turned over till it had oil pressure with the freshly changed oil.........added the fuse to the injector relay..........AND BAMM, first go she fired back to life tonight. Pretty unbelievable really 🥷



Soooo that's the usual chasing ya tail maintainence done. Jeffs enjoying himself and making up a fresh air box to seal the aircleaner away from the engine bay and I've been tracking people down to help knock up some "elements" for the already done uprights of the rear wing.

JVLRacing ·

haha nice work jeff..........................................ooops damio😂

PAZZAN ·

hope to be at valla this year like to see the notch performing to its full potential 👍👍👍👍

hellbugged ·

We always try to Paul 😀

Front ducts



Rear.....





Fresh air box........



hopefully get it on the trailer tomorrow

matberry ·

So now you have to run quicker than last PB's. 😉

👍👍

hellbugged ·

Thanx Paul for the footage



Onboard........never a dull moment in the cockpit 😵‍💫 Poor old thing.

vassy66T1 ·

That's a handful when boost comes on
Looks like a load of fun

matberry ·

What a Hell-ride 👍

Kai4130 ·

What ever happened to this? Has always been very inspirational to my build. Almost 6 years since a post

hellbugged ·

Blew engine 2014.

Have gathered parts for new donk with more power,just other priorities.

Gearbox has been pulled and inspected, amazingly, no signs of the absolute flogging it had been subjected to.

Box has been reasembled so now move forward again.

Kai4130 ·

Chop chop!! Scooby engines are cheap as chips.

hellbugged ·

They were once upon a time

Kai4130 ·

You need to fix this immediately. Your notch has always been in inspiration for my mine.