Jaks WRX bug

Can some one please put Jaks dyno run table in here for all to see .

I keep getting asked why I like Subaru power

cheers seagull

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http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/261169.jpg

cheers :thumb

Could someone also put up his track times before the conversion and after the conversion as well.

Cheers

Nice figs Jako Skaife....:thumb 201 big ones:P....

JVLR wrote:Nice figs Jako Skaife....:thumb 201 big ones:P....

🙂 ... don't you have some nice figures to post? 225kw?

reub-revhead wrote:

JVLR wrote:Nice figs Jako Skaife....:thumb 201 big ones:P....

🙂 ... don't you have some nice figures to post? 225kw?

More than that soon:thumb.......I still think that 201 with 8psi:thumb....with a set of slicks for Jaks cars skies the limit:P

How many kw at the wheels did your car make John? I have never actually heard a figure.

I will have mine back on in a week or so, as I have been busy..I had think I had 230hp, although that was with a leaky BOV, and a few other little glitches that have since been sorted..hope for 200kw as this is still old motor, although who cares what figures a dyno claims, feels like its going harder, I do 500kms a week and have wasted every car that stupidly thought they were quick.

The new motor(2002) will have a custom tig welded intake maniold, new stainless headers and exhaust, a secret turbo, maybe a secret crank and a 50-75 Nos kit.

I want to run high 10's.... still a daily driver though.

Big Smile!

:thumb

I see that Craig Torrens lad showing up more & more in this section !:alien

I can only say I did not know this untill then mate & I had an adapter plate & fly wheel here as well .

I just read the VMA Jak & was & still impressed with your build .I have the 60 coming home in the next few weeks & will do a DIY from this for all to see .

I have also landed some more legacy non turbo 2ltr motors here for those who dod not wnat to go turbo .Its the same motor in the trike & makes 120hp all day , the blocks are closed deck as well .These would be great for super charging .I doing one soon with a eaton M90 just for the hell of it .

seagull

Jak Rizzo wrote:

seagull wrote:I see that Craig Torrens lad showing up more & more in this section !:alien

Oh Neil, he's desperatly trying to work out how to put a wrx engine in his fastback as no one will help him. Can't understand why no one would want to help the champ?
regards
Jak

Hehehehehehe you are so funny Jak:thumb......not exactly rocket science.
I see your times have improved with the extra 100hp at the wheels,congrats on an excellent result with your conversion:thumb It's a credit to your skills on and off the track. Looking forward to reading the next article in the VMA magazine about your racing achievements.
Jak you are the new CHAMP as everywhere I look there are photo's of your awesome beetle and wild stories of how you have slaughted all types of racing Porsches................you are an absolute legend :kiss

Duck everyone.....incoming.

Well kids...isnt this exciting, its just like when I first started looking on the forum.
Ding Ding the next round is about to start. Im still trying to work out whether this sarcasm and constant aggressive behaviour is some form of manifested sexual tension between you boys...DO NOT COMMENT JVL, as hard as, you, I mean , that may be... given your exploits on WRXNET.
Just from HP perspective, I think Jak would be the male in the relationsip....

BIg BAD BOOFY.

I must say that I am realy lost at what JLV is going on about ?

is there some place I can follow JLVR racing ?

O fuck it , any one want a drag ? lets fight over this :vader



Dam it I want my Dragon going so I can go and smoke some round things & blow you all away !

Did I tell you I hate v w motors Simon ?

Drag on

seagull🙂

fuck this I am going to get my wrx motor next week & stuff it in my bug you guys shit me as your having all the fun !

Did I tell you I hate v w motors Simon ?

You don't like 1916s??? .............. DUCK :vader

Jak Rizzo wrote:[quote
Hi Craig,
Congratulations are definantly in order for yourself as well. After all the money spent on new heads, 48 webbers, twin plug heads, drag cam, straight cut gears & new tyres ( I could do 2 conversions with all that dosh)
Take care Craig.
regards
Jak

I think you're confusing me with Greg Ward..........I run 44idf's, the same heads for the last 11years (now twin plugged), same cam for the last 11 years and no straight cut gears............

Geez, all I asked for was some track time comparisons, is that really toooooo much to ask.

😍😍😍😍😍😍

Love actually.....exists everywhere.

Jak Rizzo wrote:I think you're confusing me with Greg Ward..........I run 44idf's, the same heads for the last 11years (now twin plugged), same cam for the last 11 years and no straight cut gears............

Geez, all I asked for was some track time comparisons, is that really toooooo much to ask.

No confusion at my end, alot of money there just to have a tarp sitting over it.
As long as your happy though:thumb
regards
Jak [/quote]

Oh, I think there might be!

He doesn't own a tarp for a start...

My got what have I started

Is he that short Jak ?

may be he has a milk crate he can bring along ?

seagull

gull wrote:My got what have I started

Is he that short Jak ?

may be he has a milk crate he can bring along ?

seagull

I've got a couple of old yellow pages, his tongue may just reach my arse then :kiss

I can always rely on a comedy post in this section :o

Man this is one of the most pi$$ funny threads I have ever read..........

Jak Rizzo wrote:Who did win the championship last year by the way?:kiss
Jak

It was me........ but I thought every one already knew that (unless that was a rhetorical questions??)
:beer

Was that your first or second year racing a bug?

I am concerned about how Craig has taken to the notion of surrendering his arse..especially to some one who has to stand on a milk crate/phone book to do so.

I will race you seagull...think your smart poping off from perth...anyway we can finalise our details later. Back to the giver and the taker.

Lets organise a race...craig comes and does and sprint with Jak, and then Jak does a hill climb with Craig. Otherwise I have a cool marriage councellor who can sort out your relationship..until then continue the playfull banter.

boof2332 wrote:Was that your first or second year racing a bug?

It was my 1st year. In fact the first event last year was the first time I had ever driven a VW (apart from on and off the trailer). VW's are my old mans passion. I knew bugger all about them then and know $hit about them now (Im still trying to figure out the firing order). I just enjoying driving them hard on the race track.


When's then next superspint?

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Craig Torrens wrote:

Jak Rizzo wrote:[quote
Hi Craig,
Congratulations are definantly in order for yourself as well. After all the money spent on new heads, 48 webbers, twin plug heads, drag cam, straight cut gears & new tyres ( I could do 2 conversions with all that dosh)
Take care Craig.
regards
Jak

I think you're confusing me with Greg Ward..........I run 44idf's, the same heads for the last 11years (now twin plugged), same cam for the last 11 years and no straight cut gears............

Geez, all I asked for was some track time comparisons, is that really toooooo much to ask.

not Craigs engine, realize, and definately a couple of thousand revs short of Mr Torrens limit! but interesting none the less.....

http://www.cbperformance.com/dyno/dynocharts.html

[ Edited on 27-5-06 by dumone ]

yeah, that looks about typical for a carb-fed non-turbo 1916cc combo with aftermarket heads

[ Edited on 27-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]

looks like a lot of $ for liitle any thing

suff a subaru in there

Gull, what Rizzo said is incorrect, and keep in mind Craig's hillclimb Beetle is a VW-powered VW and as such, can race in CAMS events as one without any class/identity dramas. So is bat69's.

But having said that, I think you know I am a great supporter of 'retrotech' transplants, having done a few, including VN EFI into WB, Delco/5.0 V8 into EA Ford and co-ordinating/assisting wih a mate's WRX/Type 3 transplant.

Dude, I can buy a JDM Soobie WRX for full-fun track work for $5K, so for pure fun on the cheap, why would I fuk around with a VW transplant? 🙂

A VW-powered VW is a dak-dak-powered dak-dak! :thumb



[ Edited on 27-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]

If you all want to ignore the hillclimb/supersprint challenge, how about a bra and panties wrestling match. We could go silly and have a celebrity match between Boris, Holzl and Popjoy. Has any one thought that the last 2 look related?

Matt

boof2332 wrote:How many kw at the wheels did your car make John? I have never actually heard a figure.

I will have mine back on in a week or so, as I have been busy..I had think I had 230hp, although that was with a leaky BOV, and a few other little glitches that have since been sorted..hope for 200kw as this is still old motor, although who cares what figures a dyno claims, feels like its going harder, I do 500kms a week and have wasted every car that stupidly thought they were quick.

The new motor(2002) will have a custom tig welded intake maniold, new stainless headers and exhaust, a secret turbo, maybe a secret crank and a 50-75 Nos kit.

I want to run high 10's.... still a daily driver though.

Big Smile!

ha are you really serious???? ive got a old little mazda that "stupidly thinks its quick" and if you can beat it you can keep it but if i beat your super quick bug its mine 1/4 mile hiil climb sprint you can even pick dubbill@hotmail.com

Jak Rizzo wrote:

VWCOOL wrote:Gull, what Rizzo said is incorrect, really?

and co-ordinating/assisting wih a mate's WRX/Type 3 transplant.

[ Edited on 27-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]

Hi Glenn

Can u give us the level of "I've got a" I'm involved with" & now "co-ordinating/assisting with a "mates" WRX/Type 3 transplant.
Did u even know that your conversion is now engineered.?

What post number was that?

regards
Jak

Huh? You "don't" seem to be "making" much "sense"...?


[ Edited on 28-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]

whos got traction control? Jak does your beetle have traction control?

boof2332 wrote:If you all want to ignore the hillclimb/supersprint challenge, how about a bra and panties wrestling match.

Matt

Men are just not men anymore...... make up, hair product, shaved legs and bikini lines and now putting on bras and panties. Whats this world coming to...

Or you could always just do it the old fashion way.. :beer



[ Edited on 28/5/2006 by bat69 ]

This is one comedy fest hahahaha go the subies.....JVLR

boof2332 wrote:Well kids...isnt this exciting, its just like when I first started looking on the forum.
Ding Ding the next round is about to start. Im still trying to work out whether this sarcasm and constant aggressive behaviour is some form of manifested sexual tension between you boys...DO NOT COMMENT JVL, as hard as, you, I mean , that may be... given your exploits on WRXNET.
Just from HP perspective, I think Jak would be the male in the relationsip....

BIg BAD BOOFY.

SOAP & BUBBLES:thumb

Priscilla Queen of the Desert is on now. Shhhhhhhh.

seagull wrote:I must say that I am realy lost at what JLV is going on about ?

is there some place I can follow JLVR racing ?

O fuck it , any one want a drag ? lets fight over this :vader



Dam it I want my Dragon going so I can go and smoke some round things & blow you all away !

Did I tell you I hate v w motors Simon ?

Drag on

seagull🙂

fuck this I am going to get my wrx motor next week & stuff it in my bug you guys shit me as your having all the fun !

Did I tell you I hate v w motors Simon ?

:oJVLR Iam confuse with your confusion.......JVLR

computer says........


NO!


(cough)

Craig Torrens wrote:Could someone also put up his track times before the conversion and after the conversion as well.

Cheers

Any times yet?

dubbill wrote:

boof2332 wrote:How many kw at the wheels did your car make John? I have never actually heard a figure.

I will have mine back on in a week or so, as I have been busy..I had think I had 230hp, although that was with a leaky BOV, and a few other little glitches that have since been sorted..hope for 200kw as this is still old motor, although who cares what figures a dyno claims, feels like its going harder, I do 500kms a week and have wasted every car that stupidly thought they were quick.

The new motor(2002) will have a custom tig welded intake maniold, new stainless headers and exhaust, a secret turbo, maybe a secret crank and a 50-75 Nos kit.

I want to run high 10's.... still a daily driver though.

Big Smile!

ha are you really serious???? ive got a old little mazda that "stupidly thinks its quick" and if you can beat it you can keep it but if i beat your super quick bug its mine 1/4 mile hiil climb sprint you can even pick dubbill@hotmail.com

I have no doubts there are heaps quicker cars out there.....My idea of a race would be a 200km drive to a supersprint, then a 150km drive to hillclimb and then back to the creek for a 1/4 mile run. Oh I forgot..2 passengers as pit crew and tools.

I have not popped off to anyone in the street how fast my car is.... what I said was that shit talkers look even more stupid when they loose. Havnt had a race for a week, the last was a new, worked evo 8 and I did him by 4 car lenghts. My partner used to own the rx3 with plates IDO 10Z. He ran a 10.4 at willowbank with the front wheels off the graound pretty much the whole way down the strip.It was illegal, he had mini tubs and ran 30psi, so I know what rota motars can do, as does everyone else. Its the look on their face after herbie beats them. Is your little Mazda engineered, and do you use it as a daily driver?

Boofy

[ Edited on 29-5-06 by boof2332 ]

Jak what clutch are you using mate ?

seagull

Jak,Paul and myself are using Kombi clutches with increased clamp force by mike at CBB. Mine is 825kg.

Matt

Are the subaru clutches the same diameter Jak? They would work with less force if the diameter is bigger..

Good to know about kombi levers fitting, is there any particular type? I was just going to use a late bug one which is longer than earlier ones but I think I'll go kombi now so my wife uses it a bit more :thumb

Rich

Jak Rizzo wrote:Hi Neil
Mine is 850kg (1800lb), a stock rexxy is 832kg, I think that I could easily get away with a stock 1700lb kennedy though. Depends greatly on your driving style & what u use the car for. I also put a kombi clutch lever arm on as well as they are 1 inch taller than the L-Bug, this helps make the clutch feel lighter, especially when in daily traffic.
regards
Jak

ok thanks Jak .Now is it true you are geting away with a stock L bug box ?

As you know this is the big ? every one asks

how long will you get away with a L bug box

On my Kombi I will be using a Kennedy 2100lb with stock plate and lengthened Kombi throwout arm.

I am using a 002 (1600) belhousing on a 091 (2 litre) gearbox which gives me a 200mm clutch (off the shelf parts). The only downside is that the throwout shaft in the 002 is not as big as a 091 which would have allowed me to run a type 3 arm which is longer.

I will cut lengthen and box up the existing arm another 15mm to get a softer clutch pedal.

Shimmo is the man for this information!

Brendan

And in the Finance News.......

Jak Rizzo corners the market on L Bug boxes.

Do they have any more?

Brendan

lucky i got one sitting around at home then ey 😀

Anthony

Paul , Simon & my self paid a visit to a guy in Perth thats does the vw boxes for the off road boys .He also builds the street vw gear boxes here .

Its a big $ box for kombi 4K

I going Rancho by the look of it unless I can get hold of a G50 box .

The type three is a direct fit so thats the better move .For me it will have to be a rolling start or I will brake it for sure .

Not long now before I bring the Dragon home

so you are engine up going with rancho neil? i thought u said you werent going to go them. i have already spent that moneyh on other things now man 🙁. haha oh well.. i will get it again.


are you going the rnacho t1 or kombi box?


Anthony

The only reason my box went, was a stupid flat change into second. Teeth all done! We just took a mainshaft out of another l bug box I had and combined the two. Now its sensible chirps into every gear like Jak....Its faster that way anyhow. Albins mainshaft is $650(lifetime warranty) gearsets are $350 each...that would be a pretty unbreakable box for about $3000. Drove to Nelson bay and back on Sunday...big smile.

seagull wrote:Paul , Simon & my self paid a visit to a guy in Perth thats does the vw boxes for the off road boys .He also builds the street vw gear boxes here .

Its a big $ box for kombi 4K

I going Rancho by the look of it unless I can get hold of a G50 box .

The type three is a direct fit so thats the better move .For me it will have to be a rolling start or I will brake it for sure .

Not long now before I bring the Dragon home

Neil,have you ask your mate there n Perth about the Reno 5speed at all?...G50 a great box just weighs a tonne,to heavy for my liking.JVL

What matt said is right.....Lbox can be unbreakable box:o...if you want the best Lbox Albin straight cuts,new gears 3:88.1 Quaife diff 944cv with Swayaway shafts:thumb not much change from around $6000...its light then a G50 and would match a Rancho.I still think a Reno 5speed is the ducks guts 500hp box.JVL

Looking at the reno box the only saver is the crown wheel , its 15mm larger than the 6 rib kombi gear box crown wheel , just that bit more saves the box
first gear in the reno is very low ( good if you have a truck )

seagull

Hi

The Reno box looks good, but where do you buy one? I called every Reno wrecker in the country looking for one, most had never heard of a UN1 reno box.

Steve

I have three of them

Its un5 steve

Hi Neil

I thought the good ones were UN1 - xxx

21 Turbo = UN1-13
25GTX = UN1-03
25V6 = UN1-04
Alpine GTA = UN1-05
25 Blindee = UN1-06
Alpine Turbo = UN1-07
25V6 Turbo =UN1-08

What Reno are yours from Neil?

Steve

From a bloody big truck Reno

I get the numbers and post them when I can .The boxes are not at my house Steve .so I need to go for a walk down the road in the light of day

seagull

Steve,did you try Reno wrecker Central Coast?Most pros that have them are the buggy boys that race use them.Its a interesting boxUN5.To use one of these you need a adaptor shaft as well.

Thats right they always leave one drive flange off as its part of the cv

hate to bring up an old thread but i beliece the UN5 is the better box steve, and these were used in the lotus esprits.

Anthony

what about the audi boxes there used in gt40 reps and there might be enough room to rotate the diff centre.I,ve been told subie auto boxes have the room to rotate the diff.

get a G50 and be done with it

any one have one for sale ?

got a 915

g50 = too much money to really justify seeings as at end of day its still a stock ratiod box..


Anthony

What have ratios got to do with anything. Its got porsche ratios remember. Its also made to take good hp, thats teh only reason people look at them. Aparently you cannot help look at them they are that big.
What ratios are you looking for anthony??? If you have a turbo, please tell me you're not considering a close ratio box...tall..tall is what you need, as boost is your best friend and likes legs not changes. Even with a lbug 3.88 I am looking at taller 4th, and the rest are perfect.


Matt

anthony there more ratio,s for a porsche box than you can point a stick at.the reno box,s are very long from the centre of the drive shaft to the seleter end of the box.if your looking at 200kw @ the wheels + porsche box and support the motor as porsche do in the 911 don,t have all the weight hanging of the gearbox which will twist the box and screw your gears.

71superbug wrote:hate to bring up an old thread but i beliece the UN5 is the better box steve, and these were used in the lotus esprits.

Anthony

Hi Anthony

Maybe they are a great gearbox, but where can you buy one?

As for G50 ratios, this is what I have, sorry its in MPH, they look good for a turbo to me.

Steve

G50 ratios mph
25.315 trye
3.5 2.058 1.409 1.074 .861
1800 11.26 19.16 27.98 36.71 45.79
2000 12.52 21.28 31.09 40.79 50.88
2200 13.77 23.41 34.20 44.86 55.96
2400 15.02 25.54 37.31 48.94 61.05
2600 16.27 27.67 40.41 53.02 66.14
2800 17.52 29.80 43.52 57.10 71.23
3000 18.77 31.93 46.63 61.18 76.31
3200 20.02 34.06 49.74 65.26 81.40
3400 21.28 36.18 52.85 69.34 86.49
3600 22.53 38.31 55.96 73.41 91.58
3800 23.78 40.44 59.07 77.49 96.66
4000 25.03 42.57 62.18 81.57 101.75
4200 26.28 44.70 65.29 85.65 106.84
4400 27.53 46.83 68.39 89.73 111.93
4600 28.79 48.95 71.50 93.81 117.01
4800 30.04 51.08 74.61 97.89 122.10
5000 31.29 53.21 77.72 101.96 127.19
5200 32.54 55.34 80.83 106.04 132.28
5400 33.79 57.47 83.94 110.12 137.36
5600 35.04 59.60 87.05 114.20 142.45
5800 36.29 61.73 90.16 118.28 147.54
6000 37.55 63.85 93.27 122.36 152.63
KPH 60.45 102.79 150.16 196.99 245.73

porsche used a 4 speed G50 in the 930 turbos so they could stretch their legs ,hard box to find though.a 915 can handle 500hp with the right setup.
what is the point a having all the power in the world and to scared to put it to the road whether its ej20t or hipo vw.

Hi

Found a metric conversion for my G50

G50 ratios kph
25.315 tyre (235/45x17 ) 3.44 final drive
1st 3.5 2nd 2.058 3rd 1.409 4th 1.074 5th .861
1800 18.12 30.84 45.04 59.10 73.72
2000 20.15 34.26 50.05 65.67 81.91
2200 22.16 37.69 55.06 72.22 90.09
2400 24.18 41.11 60.06 78.79 98.29
2600 26.19 44.54 65.06 53.02 106.48
2800 28.20 47.97 70.06 91.93 114.68
3000 30.21 51.40 75.07 98.49 122.85
3200 32.23 54.83 80.08 105.06 131.04
3400 34.26 59.42 85.08 111.63 139.24
3600 36.27 61.67 90.09 118.19 147.44
3800 38.28 65.10 96.11 124.75 155.62
4000 40.29 68.53 100.10 131.32 163.81
4200 42.31 71.96 105.11 137.89 172.01
4400 44.32 75.39 110.10 144.46 180.20
4600 46.35 78.80 115.11 151.03 188.38
4800 48.36 82.23 120.12 157.60 196.42
5000 50.37 85.66 125.12 164.15 204.77
5200 51.52 89.04 130.13 170.72 212.97
5400 54.40 92.52 135.14 177.29 221.14
5600 56.41 95.95 140.15 183.86 229.34
5800 58.42 99.38 145.15 190.43 237.53
6000 60.45 102.79 150.16 196.99 245.73KPH

Stock 3.88 = 50 92 148 201

thats different ratios that i saw last time i looked steve. i think i saw somewhere that g50's had a 2. something final drive. which would probably be a bit tall. but i must have been given the wrong info. those ratios look pretty good.

and as far as diff ratios for porsche boxes go im sure there are heaps but they cost the price of most peoples cars.

and i had the number of a palce that imports the un5's for about 2 grand i think.

i will have a look see if i can find it again..

Anthony

anthony also try Citroen,s they might use the same box.

malcolm wrote:porsche used a 4 speed G50 in the 930 turbos so they could stretch their legs ,hard box to find though.a 915 can handle 500hp with the right setup.
what is the point a having all the power in the world and to scared to put it to the road whether its ej20t or hipo vw.

No, Porsche use the four-speed because the then-current five-speed (1970s) couldn't take the torque

Good point about having all that power and no way to use it - the gearbox is usually the weakest link!

Okay I have a small question:
The single side plate boxes, did they ONLY come out in L Bugs?
If so, woo hoo I have an L Bug box in my '72 already!
I'm assuming they only came out in L's.
-Staggers.

gues that means it's time for an EJ20T. 😉

Thats makes 12

vwcool if that is the case why didn,t they just build a 5 speed G50 from the start.at that time their 911 boxes weren,t strong enough and the 901 box wasn,t much stronger than a single side plate L bug box.

Volkswagenboy wrote:Okay I have a small question:
The single side plate boxes, did they ONLY come out in L Bugs?
If so, woo hoo I have an L Bug box in my '72 already!
I'm assuming they only came out in L's.
-Staggers.

Hi

Late Type 3s had them as well, and they had a 4.125 final drive rather than the L bugs 3.88

Anthony, you may have seen my old 3.88 box ratios quoted earlier.

Steve

Thanks guys.
And Pete, if that comment about it being time for an EJ20T was for me, I agree which is why I've started the conversion.
-Staggers.

malcolm wrote:vwcool if that is the case why didn,t they just build a 5 speed G50 from the start.at that time their 911 boxes weren,t strong enough and the 901 box wasn,t much stronger than a single side plate L bug box.

Dunno! I'm just explaining why there was no five-speed in the original 930. Too much torque.

Wouldn't it be good if we could turn the diff around in a WRX box so it could run five forward speeds rather than five reverses!... :cry


[ Edited on 16-8-2006 by VWCOOL ]