rotarys in bugs in aus who has one

all i want to know is whos got one and what do they go like. my bother wants one. and don't wanna hear all the BS about ej20's and how much better they are.
cheers
ron

screeeeeeeeeeeemers

yeah they are awsome....would LOVE ONE myself. but an ej20t came up..never too late to switch oece the convfersion is done though, so once i get bored with the EJ20T i might change to a 13bturbo for some REAL power 😀

there is one white one in perthw ith a 13bt in it but i heard that it has had some problems getting off the mark.



Anthony

there was a baja on here for sale with one in:thumb

all i know is that they arnt "legal" to engineer in QLD as i wanted to buy that green one but that held me up!!
cheers
rhys

There are two people on this forum you should ask.

13BVW
name: Andrew Smith
Location : Ipswich near brisbane
Project: 13b turbo rotary into 1964 manx (ongoing for 10 years)
pefomance : 216 rwhp runs 11.93 @114mph on street tyres

See the end of "who is modifying what and where" post. I have no idea how it is legal.

and

quick camper
Aaron, has a matt black 76 bay kombi camper with a 20B turbo. Think he has about 500HP. Runs 12.10 or so down the quarter, quite insane. See page 2 and 3 of the same post. QLD as well.

sweet guys
will check em out

yer mate i know of an old boy in the VW club of wa with a rotary in a white bug but never seen it moove...

tyre fryer i imagine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


oh and i dont think anyone is guna tell you not to go down the rotary road, we all know they haul ass in a beetle over an eJ

i believe Wayne Penrose (hi po vw) started with a rotary powerd bug years ago

Wes is correct regarding legally fitting a 13b turbo let alone a NA 13B into a bug dont think it can be done. Mine however wasn't built here it was rotorised back in 1989 in New Zealand the previous owner brought it over with him when he emigrated here in 1996 he then spent several months changeing things such as wheels (too wide) extending the bumpers to the width of the car and having some more strengthening in the pan to get it registered as it was previously regd in NZ i believe thats how its allowed. I purchased it a few months after it was regd.

Bizarre wrote:i believe Wayne Penrose (hi po vw) started with a rotary powerd bug years ago

True. Sunbug with the suicide doors was rotary powered.

I remember leaving Richmond after the nats on year in my dodgy rusty old splitty when this rotary screamer pulled up at the lights next to me. I asked him to give it a bit, and I never seen anything take off so quick, and with such a commotion. I think it was a red oval - my memory is fading.....well it was the Nats at Richmond so that's a few cones ago now. :jesus:jesus:jesus

Hi Andrew,

Good to see you on the forum. I've seen your 13BVW around for years, at Harry's diner once I think and at willowbank.

If people want to use a near current version of the 13B (like from the RX8), and use the stock emission gear, then you could register it as an ICV. Then you'd be able to run whatever tyre sizes you want. There are quite a few other annoying things you'd have to do, but it can be done. Custom offroad does ICV's. That's how wild things like EJ25T powered buggies with huge mudders get registered.

it is the cc calculation 13b is seen as a 2.6litre add turbo and the ccrises.

its not like that over here in perth thankfully. not yet anyway.

we can have whatever.

Anthony

i've got a 71 bug with a 12a mild port in it the floorpan is also engineered for a 13b . havent driven it yet due to not being finished , i'll see if i can post some pics.
May even want to sell it mmm as I have 9 vws at the moment.

Yeah they used to be cool two decades ago but with the availability of WRX engines in teh last 10-15 years, that's a more reliable and sensible way to go these days

[ Edited on 10-7-2006 by VWCOOL ]

Last adapter for wrx left on the shelf ( you ) know you want one

seagull

Hey there guys i am the proud owner of a rotary powered vw . It is a 1969 baja packing a large extended port injected 13b out the back. all work was performed in the garage and the performance is nothing short of unreal. Feel free to ask any questions or for pics of build . a web site of the build is currently under construction .

yes please pics a plenty.

how do i post pics of my rotor baja i have no idea how to and i have heaps of pics to post

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"people want to use a near current version of the 13B (like from the RX8), and use the stock emission gear, then you could register it as an ICV"

Hey guys im interested in baja wes info on registering a vechile as a ICV (what is it and how can it be done) Thanks guys any info would be very much appreciated

to add an image just resize it to under 50kb and use the attachement feature when you post a reply.

an ICV is an individually constructed vehicle. There is a lot of work involved, as you need to make the car meet modern ADR requirements. The hardest part is the engine emissions requirement, but if you use and engine ecu from a current spec engine then you don't have to get it tested.

Then once the car is ready you have to write a rather large report showing how the car complies with all the rules, and ADR requirements. And then you need an approval engineer to sign off on it all to approve it.

Read the LO section of the NCOP and you'll get some idea of what needs to be done.

Hey guys the link below has some pics from the buildup of my rotor baja. there is barley anything on there at the monment but in the near future i shall put up all the build pics and include some vids of my rotor baja doin a few runs. cheers guys.

http://groups.msn.com/GottaVW

I'm sure I put a post on here saying that a 13B bug CANNOT be registered as an ICV

VWCOOL wrote:I'm sure I put a post on here saying that a 13B bug CANNOT be registered as an ICV

why's that?

In short, because it's a Bug and not an ICV...

That's not a reason. You can register a bug as an ICV, so long as it meets all the ADR requirements.

Just like you can register a long wheel base buggy as a modified production vehicle (rebodied LH5/LH6 so only the body needs to meet the new ADR's) or an ICV where the whole car needs to meet the ADR's.

VWCOOL wrote:Yeah they used to be cool two decades ago but with the availability of WRX engines in teh last 10-15 years, that's a more reliable and sensible way to go these days

[ Edited on 10-7-2006 by VWCOOL ]

imho getting a kombi to run 12.01 cannot be done with a wrx engine but maybe in two decades or so it'll get somewhere close:kiss the quickest cars up here sunny coast are all rotors id love to put one in a manx but i rekon it'd be scary even at 120-130kph

[ Edited on 13-8-2006 by newoldmanx ]

newoldmanx is that you aaron (quikcamper) ??

how is the 20b tt going?


Anthony

Paul has a full set up at his place in Perth adapter plate every thing you need its a 12a

$850.00 I think he told me last night

has clutch the works there , Good price anthony sell the subaru turbo motor off ect to ash


0404739078

how about some gear box details on this beast

I hate rotors but I can live with the speed of this thing

Baja Wes wrote:That's not a reason. You can register a bug as an ICV, so long as it meets all the ADR requirements.

Just like you can register a long wheel base buggy as a modified production vehicle (rebodied LH5/LH6 so only the body needs to meet the new ADR's) or an ICV where the whole car needs to meet the ADR's.

I am aware of the 'loopholes' in the current Qld legistaltion/CoP compare dto NSW's, but any engineer who is willing to risk his career by registering a 1970s Bug body as conforming to current ADRs is an idiot.

newoldmanx wrote:

VWCOOL wrote:Yeah they used to be cool two decades ago but with the availability of WRX engines in teh last 10-15 years, that's a more reliable and sensible way to go these days

[ Edited on 10-7-2006 by VWCOOL ]

imho getting a kombi to run 12.01 cannot be done with a wrx engine but maybe in two decades or so it'll get somewhere close:kiss the quickest cars up here sunny coast are all rotors id love to put one in a manx but i rekon it'd be scary even at 120-130kph

[ Edited on 13-8-2006 by newoldmanx ]

12-second WRXs are a dime a dozen where I come from. Can't be too hard to get a lighter Kombi going that quick!

I am aware of the 'loopholes' in the current Qld legistaltion/CoP compare dto NSW's, but any engineer who is willing to risk his career by registering a 1970s Bug body as conforming to current ADRs is an idiot.

As long as you modify it to meet current ADR's your fine. The sharpbuilt and Iguana buggies both have to meet current ADR's on the body. Making an existing body meet them is easier than making a fibreglass body meet them.

Out of interest, I recently saw a Suzuki Sierra with a V8 in it that was registered as an ICV. It was very wild and somewhat dodgy.

vwcool that is a 12.01. basically an "11 second car" as people would state.

also consider the aerodynamics of a brick...theres ya kombi. i remember he was making some huige power with a 13bt and only running high 12's? or low 13's?


not as easy as you would think.


no denying rotarys kick arse.

neil, if it was a 13bt i would.


Anthony

[vw cool

12-second WRXs are a dime a dozen where I come from. Can't be too hard to get a lighter Kombi going that quick! [/quote]
ha ha ha yeah ok your right 12 second kombis are everywhere "cant be that hard" my gut hurts everyones a comedian i suppose we will see a couple of yours at willowbank vw drag day comon "cant be that hard " mate 12 second rotors were a dime a dozen in 1970's 10 second rotors are a dime a dozen nowdays i will no longer argue this point sorry for hijacking this thread i hope you can apreciate this needed to be said i rekon a rotor in a bug is an awsome idea good luck a bloke called doug rogers at rotormax can help ill try to get his number

[ Edited on 17-8-2006 by newoldmanx ]

have got 65 beetle 12at in build .reg in nsw whithout turbo no worries.Put turbo on after easy.Rotarires arent dead and buried still produce bg hp.Who cares about fuel consumsion.If u are by a bicycle

newoldmanx wrote:[vw cool

12-second WRXs are a dime a dozen where I come from. Can't be too hard to get a lighter Kombi going that quick!

ha ha ha yeah ok your right 12 second kombis are everywhere "cant be that hard" my gut hurts everyones a comedian i suppose we will see a couple of yours at willowbank vw drag day comon "cant be that hard " mate 12 second rotors were a dime a dozen in 1970's 10 second rotors are a dime a dozen nowdays i will no longer argue this point sorry for hijacking this thread i hope you can apreciate this needed to be said i rekon a rotor in a bug is an awsome idea good luck a bloke called doug rogers at rotormax can help ill try to get his number

[ Edited on 17-8-2006 by newoldmanx ] [/quote]

Err.. what is it you are trying to say?

buzdak wrote:have got 65 beetle 12at in build .reg in nsw whithout turbo no worries.Put turbo on after easy.Rotarires arent dead and buried still produce bg hp.Who cares about fuel consumsion.If u are by a bicycle

Many JDM importers don't carry 1980s rotors any more. There are none remaining. As for your build, putting a turbo on after the car is engineered is...wellllll... don't crash unless you like playing Mummies and Daddies with Big Bubba

VWCOOL wrote:

newoldmanx wrote:[vw cool

12-second WRXs are a dime a dozen where I come from. Can't be too hard to get a lighter Kombi going that quick!

ha ha ha yeah ok your right 12 second kombis are everywhere "cant be that hard" my gut hurts everyones a comedian i suppose we will see a couple of yours at willowbank vw drag day comon "cant be that hard " mate 12 second rotors were a dime a dozen in 1970's 10 second rotors are a dime a dozen nowdays i will no longer argue this point sorry for hijacking this thread i hope you can apreciate this needed to be said i rekon a rotor in a bug is an awsome idea good luck a bloke called doug rogers at rotormax can help ill try to get his number

[ Edited on 17-8-2006 by newoldmanx ]

Err.. what is it you are trying to say? [/quote]ok just for you in laymans terms 1)if you think it "cant be that hard " to get a kombi to run 12's ----do it
2) big noting that "12sec wrx's are a dime a dozen" doesnt impress anyone as 10 second rotors are common place nowdays
3) you have obviously learned to read well done, next step is comprehention thats being able to understand what you have read no go back to the first post and read iit 3 times very slowly then come back here and read no 4
4) see the part about not wanting to hear about subies

I saw a really nice one at DOVW in Melbourne two years ago. Beautiful custom fabrication etc. Think the bug was blue?

i never liked vw's i hated rotaries
I now drive a rotary powerd vw
All I can say is it is a rush FUN FUN FUN
if the car is set up properly 200kph at the end of a dragstip feels great in a manx especially when the V8 is so far behind