tin that covers whole engine whats that about?

shaderdash · 7 Jul 2006, 9:03 pm

I am a leaner dubbers so please bear with my ignorance. In the american hot vw's mag for engines by bernie borgmann that have a full cover of tin and fan based pulley, what's that about?

pod · 7 Jul 2006, 9:05 pm

its a porsche fan kit

pod · 7 Jul 2006, 9:06 pm

shaderdash · 8 Jul 2006, 10:21 am

they put porsche tin covers on type 1 and type 4 motors because ? ? ?

HGFS · 8 Jul 2006, 10:27 am

They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason

barls · 8 Jul 2006, 4:02 pm

SVW-054 wrote:They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason

actually they dont cool better straight off the shelf the need serious modification from the results ive seen. the dtm is the best one off the shelf for the t4 closely followed by the cali conversion.

66deluxe · 8 Jul 2006, 6:17 pm

I rang Bergmann years ago did not like them at all found them to be a bit arrogant, the americans dont like him cause apparantly he stole the design of his 911 kit from a german type 4 business Klaus Kafer Tuning.

Craig Paton · 8 Jul 2006, 6:28 pm

barls wrote:
SVW-054 wrote:They cool better and look more flash than beetle tinware. Not cheap though. The looks bit is the only reason they are in his ads, the americans always warn against him on their forums for some reason
actually they dont cool better straight off the shelf the need serious modification from the results ive seen. the dtm is the best one off the shelf for the t4 closely followed by the cali conversion.

If you go to Jake Raby's site, he has been experimenting with cooling of the air cooling to the VW engine for a number of years.

His figures show that while he was building a system to surpass all other types of cooling fan house systems, it took ages for him to improve on the STANDARD VW fan housing and tin wear..!!!!!

The Porsche style wasn't anywhere near the cooling efficiency of the Standard VW fan housing and tin wear on the flat 4 configeration.

It's a very interesting read.!

Mind you the Porsche style does look the goods!

Bizarre · 8 Jul 2006, 7:01 pm

I think it also depends if you have a 5 blade or 11 blade fan.

Bernie Bergmann also uses a Golf alternator modified rather than the Porsche one

I know one 2.7 Type 4 that runs at 80C after an hour or 2 on the track

All depends what you do with the oil cooler as it obviously wont fit the stock position with the shroud.

And yes - they do look the part

shaderdash · 8 Jul 2006, 8:22 pm

ah ha (not the band) thanks for the input, this little grass hopper is learning from the wise.