first time bug buyer gets ripped big time can anyone help me?

:cry hi ppls, Well what can i say? i just bought a 1970 vw beetle with a sunroof,mags and all that but would you believe i got scammed? I bought this car from the gold coast (mermaid beach) paid $3800 for this car which was suppose to be in vgc with rwc and rego. The car turned up yesterday on the back of a truck which i paid $700 to get it to my door only to find that the car is very far from road wrthyness or beeing in very good condition. The interior is shot, no carpet on the floor, roof linning in dissary, can't open the sunroof fearing it might break, rust holes under the front drivers side gaurd and in floor, oil leaks everywhere, a thin layer of black paint over the old paint, it's a nightmare to say the very least. The rwc is invalid as it is 2 months old but the car shouldn't have passed in the first place. I have no more money left as we sold our old car to get this one, i can't work thanks to having a hurneia and i'm on a waiting list, my other half lost her job the day after we paid for the car. I don't know what to do!!!!!:cry Is there anyone out there that can help me out in my darkest hour? PLZ HELP!!!!!!!

ok rule #1 dont buy a car unless u are 100% sure of its condition, having said that all is not lost.

was any written agreement made with previous owner about condition of the car and it having roadworthy.

is the car registered? if it is and the car was sold to you with an invalid roadworthy then the previous owner has broken the law and u may be able to get your money returned via legal action.

well i got the add from the trading post and the owner sent me pics of the car. I got all the paperwork with the car with the invalid rwc and the car is registered. Do u know of anyone who could help me as i live near townsville the town i live in is home hill. If you know of anyone that can help us out my email addrress is escortpanelvan@yahoo.com.au

im not sure who u could call.

if the car was to be sold registered which is what i gather from what u are saying then the seller has broken the law selling a registered car without a valid roadworthy.

so heres your thing.

previous seller needs to fix car up and get legal roadworthy for you.

or

can give you money back.

as far as i know thesem are the legal options here.

is this a matter for the police? im not sure. department of transport maybe. DOT could at least give you some advice.

please tell me you got written receipts etc for the car?

these will help

Hi again, well i did ring the previous seller today and she told me that i'm lying about the rust and oil leaks and so forth. It took me a full day to calm down when i found out what was going on. It sounded like she wasn't going to pay back the money but get the car fixed. That means she wants me to send the car back down to her so she can get the work done but that will only cost me more money unless i get it fixed up here and she pays the bill. That is the only thing that i can think of apart from taking her to court. However did the rwc is going to be in a whole world of trouble if the department of transport finds out what he did. So do u think the car can be fixed?
I would love to keep it if it's fixable as it looks different and cool at the same time. But if you think that the car is not worth saving then it'll have to go!

anything is fixable

i dont know what the car is like and there are others on this forum with far more knowledge than me.

but the RWC is your leverage.

ring the Department of transport and ask them what they think.

well i got a bank reciept for depositing the money into her brothers account as she owed him the money. yes i did get a reciept from her now that i just looked at the paperwork she sent me.

does the receipt give any conditions of roadworthyness of the car etc? condition of RWC?

or does it just say u paid her X amount of dollars?

the reciept shows the amount and the rego number on it aswell as reciepts of the operator who supposedly did the rwc, does that help?

rego number. helps.

proves that the car was sold registered.

did he/she sign the receipt?

if its signed by the seller saying bug with rego number XXX XXX was purchased for X dollars then you are entitled to a roadworthy bug with a certificate.

yes it does have a signiture on it. How do you post pics on this and i'll send some of the car that she sent me

pics must be under 50kb

click "new reply" right hand side under this post.

theres a pic posting thing in there.

im no lawyer but to my knowledge u have a big lever here to use in getting what u deserve.

ring DOT ask them for advice regarding legaliltys of selling a registered car without rwc.

if the seller is being unreasonable take photos of the problems on the car....lots of photos and see a solicitor.

sorry but im off to bed now

ok thanks for your help. sounds like there are decent ppl out there after all. Hopefully this pic will work

It looks pretty good in the photo.

Good luck with it. It sounds like the previous owner has the responsibility of getting it fixed:vader

It looks like it is worth fixing.

hey mark, thanks that helps. see what i mean the car looked like it was in vgc did it not? Well when my other halfs brother gets his money next month i'm gunna make sure this bug gets the proper paint job it deserves as he owes us money lol

It will look great with new paint. :thumb

well it should i hope. won't be till next month but hey as long as it gets done thats all that matters. it'll be painted the same colour but done properly.

Maybe you should be chasing the person that did the RWC? If they have given a false RWC then they could get themselves into serious trouble. As for saying that the car is in VGC, this is pretty subjective ie: my definition of what is VGC could be very well different to yours. It may be that this owner did think that their car was in VGC and did think that it was in roadworthy condition when it was sold.

I know that this is probably not helpful and I do sympathise with you as we all have probably bought something a bit dodge at some stage but it really does pay to see the car before you buy. A friend of mine paid $7000 for an unsighted Celica and then paid $1500 to get it sent to Vic on a train and it was the biggest heap I have ever seen, he ended up getting rid of it a month later to the wrecker for $100.

It may also pay to get the oil leaks and stuff fixed before getting it painted especially if your on a limited budget (like most of us on here are!)

Good luck and hope all goes well. Am looking to see the progress of your new toy on this site

buyer beware. But if you bought you a car with rego and a RWC, this is not what you got. Doesn't matter what state the car is in, that's not the point. The problem is that you will need to get a lawyer to send he a notice of demand for the money, and cite that the thing you bought, is not what you received, and in such case you want your money back.

If she ignores this, then you will need to get further advice from the lawyer as to how best to proceeed with a civil action. I doubt that this is a criminal action, unless the RWC is faudulent is some way.

The rule of thumb is - if you can argue the law, then the other person can only argue the toss. The state of the car now won't help you, unless you can show that the photos you got are a mis-representation.

I strongly worded legal letter stating the law may scare the shit out of her and you might get paid out. Sound like shes a tool. The world is full of them. You waste your lifeforce arguing with an idiot - they tend to beat you with experience.

Get a lawyer to draft a letter, take the RWC and rego to the police and tell them you believe it to be fraudulent. Thats all you can do.

The down side really is, that you may get nothing. If she does not have the money and doesn't get spooked, then you will have to take her to court - the plod don't like spending money on this kind of thing - the law sucks. If you do that it will cost you money. If you win, and I'd think you would in front of a magistrate, she'll get told to pay up. Shell then say 'can't pay', and you'll have to get intallments, even if they are $10 a week. The court will accept anything just about. As soon as she misses a payment, you'll be back to chasing the money.

Talk to the lawyer, but in my experience, the court option is a waste of money and time, unless you really want the moral victory that bad.

The legal system is not set up to help normal people out. Its user pays.

The alternative ... stick it on eBay at $1 reserve and sell with all faults if any....you'll get at least some of your money back ... or parts it out ...

Sorry, all sounds gloomy - been there - learned that lesson too. It burns you up now, but don't let it send ya spakkas. You're not the first, not the last and there are plenty of arseholes out there with no moral fibre...

Well she messaged me today saying that i should get 3 quotes from panelbeaters and she'll pay for it all. Does anyone think she is genuine or not? I messaged her back saying that i wanted what she said in writing.

Get the 3 quotes and ask for the $$ BEFORE any work is started...and i wouldn't delete the message you got either..it can be used as evidence if need be.

Get the quotes in HER name and in writing. Get her to write down what she is doing - perhaps draft ift for her. Then armed with that, tell her that the thing you have bought is not what you paid for and you want your money back.

For the money you've spent, you can actually get a nice car. Get the admisssion off her though, all helps you.

If she doesn't pay the beater and painter, then of course they have a right to sell the car to pay the debt in most trading conditions I've read. So then you end up with no new debt, but no car.

Seriously, go talk to Legal Advice if you are skint, you'll get a free hour. Get a lawyer in. This bitch is laughing at you. You will just waste time....that way if she aint done what YOU want by the time you've seen the lawyer, then you can go after her....don't tell her that though....but its the way to go.

Yep...as mick h said.

In addition...u should know that you can also seek assistance from the people that issued the RWC. THEY KNOW that issuing a dodgy RWC isnt a good thing. And they stand to lose their ability to do so if you report it to DOT. They will also recognise that a car does not gather rust holes in two months. BUT, having said that. you need to make sure the rust is in a place that they could easily see it existed, and see thru, as now here in QLD, the ppl are allowed to 'poke rust' to see if it is surface or sturctural.

Friend went through this, and attacked the RWC guys first. THEY in turn went after the person with the car, on the basis that THAT person wasnt supposed to have used it as part of a sale. In the end, both partie coughed up half each for repairs to be done by reputatble groups.

So here are some things you can do.
1. Get quotes for the work to be done by reputable...and only reputable ppl. Its no use getting back yard ppl to give u a quote if u have no intention of using them. She has the right to pay a person who does the work directly. So she might end up picking one u didnt wish to use. Not bagging back yarders...just saying...get quotes & use ppl YOUR happy with.
2. Send the quotes, with a letter explaining exactly why ur doing it. Tell her she ahs 28 days to make payment, or dispute to you directly. When u go into a court battle, it is not enough to say...i sent a letter. If you dont have a 'respond by' date...your leaving it open for settlement to take place in a few months...
3. Get the letter checked over. Alot of ppl dont know that there are legal groups who work for free. The reason is...government said ppl are entitled to receive free legal advice. Doesnt mean it will always be perfect...but it shoudl be. And trust me, just because u pay for advice, that doesnt mean it will be any better. If you want to know who is available in your area, you can call ur local court, and ask them. I used to have the lists for them here in BRISSY, but i dont have them for Townsville.
4. Dont delete the message. You need to somehow show you have received it. who from etc. I have a program on my telephone at home that shows calls in as well as calls out...but this is too late for ur situation.
5. write down any conversations you'd had...date time etc..as well as who said what. this is also helpful if u need legal action.
6. DONT FORGET SMALL CLAIMS COURT. Its a pretty easy process..and its where u go to make claims for 'smaller amounts' such as a few thousand dollars.

Now, having said all that...ur prolly not as badly off as u think. But it is better if u follow the rule of 'chrome wont get u home" In otherwords...You need a working car, not a pretty one. So best to do things in this way:

Rust can be cut out. (get it to 'primer stage if ur really broke, but get it cut out asap...its what kills old cars first)
Mechanicals can be fixed. Ask who is a good VW mechanic in ur area. That is, someone who knows them well. Not necessarily the best VW mechanic.
Necessary interior items. Such as 'metal sticking out from seats'
Then go get ur road worthy!

That way the car is drivable. And can get you from A to B.

Then you go for things like a comfy interior, & a nice looking exterior. Good CD player/speakers. And make lots of vw contacts.... They can get u the best info the quickest for ur area.

And if all else fails...harass MICK H...i noticed ur both in townsville.

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[ Edited on 3-9-2006 by bugeyedbabe ]

hi guys, thanks for the info, this is my first worst case senerio since buying cars. I have kept all the messages she has sent me as my mob keeps all records of messeges sent and recievied. With that rust, it's not hard to notice as it is visable if you turn the tyre. It's what i call religous as it is very holey to say the very least. There is no carpet really to speak of on the floor but first things first and thats the rust then whatever needs fixing up will be done.Apparently she is leaving for new zealend this week as her father is on his death bed but somehow i don't believe it. I know what i need though, i need a backbone otherwise ppl are gunna keep walkin all over me

its all good...trust me.

When we bought our first one...wow...the rust was so bad....they had put cardboard on the back floor so ppls didnt notice.

Butt he upseide was...most of what was okay in it was rare and original. So it became the parts car for the others....I'm now on number 4 vw...I love them as much as i ever...i've made heaps of friends...and thus...heaps of helpers!

u will too

well i hope things work out alright as i'm at the end of my teather. I was diagnosed with sever depression last year after my step father passed away 2 yrs ago from cancer and then my biological father passed away last january from emphasemia,so i've had a bit of a rough trot lately and this lil incident just made me feel worse.

beer fixes everything

to bad i don't drink

The sun will come up again tomorrow. :thumb

well when the sun comes up tommorrow i'll be seriously stressin out as i am now! The car doesn't run right as it coughs and splutters when i drive it. It needs a serious service. It cost me $47 to fill the car and basically thats all the driving i've done in her since i got her friday afternoon. There's only a months rego on it so i've gotta get all this sorted out really quick as it is our only form of transport. I've also gotta detail me landlords car tommorrow morning too. She's lucky as she is leaving for greece this week.

bugeyedbabe wrote:......................And if all else fails...harass MICK H...i noticed ur both in townsville.

😂

[ Edited on 3-9-2006 by bugeyedbabe ]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm over 100km away actually....the clossest VW place would be Makay and then Cairns, which is half the problem up here,everything being so far away. It would cost you about $400 to get the car to Brisbane. Ring her and tell her you want your money back ASAP PLUS $400 to get the car to Brisbane. Cut your losses i reckon....the distance will be the killer in this being resolved. Otherwise drive through every red light etc so she looses her license..."just for a laugh" as the car would be in her name...just kidding:o Sleep on it and see what tomorrow brings:rudolf

honestly...it will be okay.

actually $600 to get the car back to brissy, trust me i know, paid $700 to get it up because she wouldn't drop the car to the depot. I've already asked for my money back and she refused. But the bug has potential,just got to get her to fix it like it should have been in the first place. When i drove it to the shop today, boy didn't i get some looks from everyone going buy.

go see Legal Aid in the first instance. Only cost you an hour of your time. Option B. Stick it on eBay...people there want to pay as little as possible, so usually get what they pay for

black beauty wrote:to bad i don't drink

... never too late to learn!

i know what i'm like when i'm drunk not a good thing especially for my other half

Then i would get a quote for the rust repairs ASAP and get the $$$ off her. Brisbane is a backload so is cheaper to send there.$350 from Townsville to Brissneyland depot to depot and $650 Brissneyland to Townsville (TNT). Personally i would be asking her to get the RWC "renewed" as such,that is to get her to go back to wherever she got it done and get a new one (she could just tell them the car is about to be sold,but the old RWC expired so could they re write it pretty please). At least that way you could get the rego transferred over to your name and keep it on the road while the other stuff is fixed. Just my 2 cents. Check your U2U.

well she did tell me she's going to get the rwc off the bloke who did it so i can at least get the rego transfered, aslong as she keeps her end of the bargin i'll be happy

hey mick i got ya number thanks. I'll definetly give ya a call tommorrow, isn't B&J motors a vw specialist?

man what a day i've had. i couldn't get 2 of the three panelbeaters to give me a quote for the car as they don't wanna get involved. 1 will but i have to go back tommorrow as he was to busy today and told me to take photo's of all the rust thats in the car and come back tommorrow. I got one estamite from one pbeater saying it could cost between $1000-$1500 to fix the rust.I sent the previous owner a message about how much she is looking at paying for the rust and i haven't herd a word from her since. She's leaving for new zealand tommorrow.I tried ringing her and she's not answering.Looks like i'm ringing leagal aid tommorrow to get advice on what to do next. Also one of the workers at the last pbeater i went and seen has a 66 beetle, pink in colour and in good condition,mags etc $500 so when i see him tommorrow he's showing me photos of the car as it is out at alva beach. Might be the only thing that might save me for the moment.

black beauty wrote:hey mick i got ya number thanks. I'll definetly give ya a call tommorrow, isn't B&J motors a vw specialist?

B&J Motors and "Specialist" in the same sentence😂😂🙅!!!! Best laugh I've had all week !!!Thanx for that. You've already been stung once,you don't want that to happen again....Try ringing from a different phone in case she's screening your number....Good luck...will catch up one day:bounce

well i dare say she might be trying to pull the wool over me eyes but she also gave me a number to fax the quotes to so i don't really know what to think at the moment, all i know is that i've gotta get legal aid to help me and go from there even though i'm certain i'm probably screwed outta me money and a car

well today she admitted basically to scamming me outta me money. Me panelbeater is going to help me repair the rust and do a new respray of the car even if i have to work it off. Damn the oil leak from this motor is just unbelievable, and get this, the motor isn't a 1.6 but a 1.3, i wouldn't be suprised if she cancels the rego on me. Bloody legal aid was no help either as they didn't ring me back so now i'm really stressin out. Have to ring them tommorrow. Got shown a 66 model today in ok condition, a bit of rust around the back but it's repairable, brand new interior, mags, good chrome bumpers $500 colour is pink thinking of buying it with the money i have left and fix it up too.

I TOLD YOU IT WAS A DISEASE...........first one...then 2 and before you know it they are breeding everywhere !!! Time to send the plates to Brissy for a "red light" drive on another black beetle,just to tease her license points...let me know if ya need any parts..

if there are any bits u need " little stuf "and ive got spairs of u can have it" to help u out im a bit far away tho but offers there just post costs is all ul pay u2u me if so :thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb

Get he cops involved and have them haul her sorry ass off the flight she's on.

squizy wrote:Get he cops involved and have them haul her sorry ass off the flight she's on.

yes do that that would stuff her up :thumb

I tell ya what when she basically admitted what she done i was fuming, maybe i should go to the cops, but what can they do? maybe i should ring me mate in the cib and get some advice from him. If anyone can help me with parts and so forth i won't say no thats for sure. I've never worked on a vw motor before so it would be good if someone gave me a hand. I'll do my best to put on a barbie and so forth for those willing to help out.

you may be better off getting the work done on the pink bug first...

make a list of what needs doing with each car...and costs..and go from there.

there are still a few things u can ring around to ask about as well..see what was legal and what wasn't.
1. a car sold with rego, needs to be sold with a safety cert. what happens when it hasnt been
2. a rwc was issued on the car 2 months ago, but obviously it was dodgy. Who gets in trouble for it.

You also need to find out how u can continue contact with her, so u knwo where to send the letters of demand.

Also, how long ago was the car purchased....when u purchase and item from a company or business...you ahve a cooling off period of 7 days in which to return the item. Im not sure this applies with a private sale.

Also, where did u purchase the car through? Was it ebay? I thought Ebay had a protection policy, which may also help....it means u go tot hem..and they go to her.

others have something similar as well......might be worth a try, depending on who u used. It may not get u anywhere..but it cant hurt to try.

cheers
donna

Take a deep breath.

Sort out the car 1 issues before you get into another one....

Goto the police and do a report...

Seek legal advise if you are in RACQ you get it free, try some of the womens info link services, they give free legals too.

You may have to start small claims procedures.

I've just read this thread all the way through...man, this is awfull.... and the advice and support is awesome....... I'm agreeing with what is being said here mate.... but I reckon, just before you go to the cops, give her one last chance, tell her exactly what you are going to do next, if she doesnt do EXACTLY what you want.... get freakin seriously uncompromising, GET ANGRY, like she was a naughty kid having a tanty, and if she wavers from what you ask, just tell her that you wont stop until this is fixed one way or another.....you have her by the balls........DAMN crooked people to an eternity in a river of excrement
all the best man

well today i rang legal aid today and got told they will ring me back tommorrow, rang the dept of transport and all they told me was to transfer the rego and fix the problems when i could, so i went and transfered the rego as i did it just in time before the rwc ran out. They told me if i did it today i'd be right so i did. Me panelbeater friend told me to come back on monday as he was tied up with a job that needed finishing, which was understandable, he said come monday he'll be able to get things moving on the car. Getting the 66 bug off his worker this weekend even though i'm gunna be paying him off he said he'll drop it to my place this weekend regardless if i pay the money straight away or pay him off. While i was in getting the rego transfered into my name my other half went next door to the cop shop and sat for her learner's and blow me down she got it!

So you managed to get another RWC done then to transfer the rego over??? The Dept. of Transport let you register a faulty car???:duh

hey...i registered eith without them even coming to the door to check out the compliance plates...

just poked their head out the door..went yep...its a bug...thats good enuf

They now, according the the officer..simply accept the person who wrote the rwc did so correctly, as to not write them correctly means DOT can take away the previledge to do so.

but...u never know which DOT branch will and wont do it. Edith didnt get looked at...blue belle did.

cheers
beb



[ Edited on 6-9-2006 by bugeyedbabe ]

whats her address, lets get back to good old Dog Doo in the mail....Im over politcal correctness .... lets slash the seats and burn some shit down ....

well lucky for me the rwc was still valid even though it was 2 months old...funny that.if i had of left it till tommorrow it would have been out of date.I rang first so luck was on my side for once. Her name(the seller) is susan (edit) and she lives at (edit) mermaid beach. To bad she's in new zealand at the moment. She reckons she owns a $15000 combi van? Anyway i took some photos of the car and the rust but the camera wasn't playing nice so here's the ones that worked.

"Gotta be careful. If you wish to give details to anyone, please do by private message, not public forum" - HB

[ Edited on 6-9-2006 by Helbus ]

here's a shot of the bad rust under the front gaurd.

[ Edited on 6-9-2006 by black beauty ]

Sorry HB....

i'm hoping these pics work.

email them to me and I'll puttem up if you want..mj.hutchinson@optusnet.com.au

Pics have to be under 50kb to attach, or you can host offsite like at www.photobucket.com and paste the link of the picture in the message.

just as i thought, the pics are to big but i have sent them to mick😁

guys i don't want anybody doing anything stupid when it comes to revenge, i'm not that kinda guy.i will get legal advice and do the right thing and let the courts figure out what to do with her. I might have got a bad deal but things tend to work out if ya do the right thing. I just thought buy giving out her name i might warn other dubbers incase she tries to do the same thing again. So guys no revenge tactics ok. Just having all your support is enough to get me through this crummy situation.😀

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[ Edited on 6-9-06 by Mick H ]

[ Edited on 6-9-06 by Mick H ]

well what can i say about today? hmmm well to start off,legal aid finally rang me back and they didn't really help me out saying it's gunna cost me money to get a solicitor, go to the small claims court and try and get the buisness operator to pay to get the problems fixed. Thats only if i'm willing to spend the money, money ..... what's that? Anyway i couldn't get the service done on the car as the mechanic was just toooo busy, so i went and saw another one and one of the mechanics there use to have a 56 oval bug so he knows how to service it. Can't get it done till monday, oh well as long as it gets done i guess. They will only charge me $70-$80 to get it done. Tried again to take more pics of the car but it looks like i need a new camera. Tried to get the timing right on the car today but to no avail. All i can say is the motor is gutless and it takes awhile to get it to 90km. Funny thing happened while i was going over to Ayr today to run me other half to neato and as we were coming into town, a cpl of guys walked across the pedestrian crossing in front of us and got their camera out and as we drove past they took a pic and had their thumbs up.😂

well today i had another crack at the timing, somehow i managed to get it pretty good. Cleaned the spark plugs and they were caked black, got the ol wire brush out and gave em a good clean. Seems to run a bit better now. Got the 66 bug dropped off today even though we didn't pay the full amount, he just wanted it away from his place, he's letting us pay the rest off. Payed $200 only ow him $300 so it's all good. Looks like herbie in a way except it doesn't have a sunroof, i'm not worried. Needs alot of work but it'll be worth it.It's colour is pink lol

umm guys, is running the motor when only 2 cylinders are workin BAD??????? i got another motor 2 go into mine but i have no idea how to do it. Can anyone give me some pointers on how to take this motor out?

Running motor on 2 cylinders is not good, but it is a good start to find out why it is running on two cyl. It doesn't mean you have to put in a new motor. Anyway a Google search will find you heaps, and heaps of internet pages on taking motors out. There is no 'special pointers' list. You just have to do it right.

A great publication that can help you out in a big way is John Muirs - Complete idots guide to Volkswagen. Very easy to follow and understand and give you 'pointers' rather than technical specifications.

hey guys i'm finally back on the internet. It's been a rough few months ya could say. Started workin on the car, painted the interior a metallic cyan blue, put the motor from the pink bug in by myself with no help from anyone a cpl of days before i had surgery on me hurneia.Don't have much of an exhust system on the motor as it is badly rusted. I don't know what size the motor is either, could be a 1300 or smaller.Took the seats out of the other bug and put them in, the bug is looking a lil nicer now. Unfortunately for me when i was doing some work on the bug yesterday i ended up dropping the back seat on my big toe:cry. Looks like i might end up getting the toenail ripped off:puke. I've got new black carpet to go in yet, it should look good once it is in.

what a saga.. how did you go with getting any cash from the biatch?? 😠
good luck with it all hey..

i coudn't get me money back unfortunatly, didn't have much of a leg to stand on as it was bought privatly. Rang mick motors and he told me that the motor that i have in the bug at the moment thats out of the pink bug is a 1200.The original motor i took out that was having problems is a 1500. Now i have to find an exhust for the 1200 motor as the exhust on it is non existant. Still have to get the rust fixed up on the A piller,just wish this panelbeater would make up his mind about what he's gunna do.:bounce

You certainly have had Your share of problems....
the picture of the beetle looks great...

My Son flew to Adelaide to buy a Beetle, and all the good bits were on another beetle the owner had...

He was lucky He didn't buy it sight unseen...

He Flew back home...

Its a shame you don't have a panel beater/welder who has done this work before...

Lee

http://community.webshots.com/user/vw68autobug

yeah it's hard to get good help where i am.🤪 just goes to show if ya don't have plenty of cash ya can't get anything done🤘

This article wil help you get an idea what the rust you have will take to fix.

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=18483

hey peter, thanks for showing me that,i don't have the tools or the confidence or the cash to do the job.......yet.:bounce but at the moment i think that job might be best left for the professional.

man ive got a vw sunroof sitting around doing nothing if you pay freight you can have it ,its the pop up type with all the plastic bits with it i got it when i bought a kombi of a bloke how was gunna put it on the kombi ?? "funny oil leak" when i bought my first beetle it leaked oil badly and i dried the engine bay watched where the leak came from and it was the seal on the oil pressue /temp thingy $5 and it fixed it forever "dont stress a bit of rust faded paint a spluttery motor etc etc its what makes vws fun especially hen you fix the problem, its very gratifying.. send some pics so we can look at this baby now..

hey kroozzn62, mate it would make my day if i got a pop up sunroof for me bug as the one i got doesn't do anythin. I'd be happy to pay for freight so if ya can let me know asap it would be much appreciated! My town is Home Hill in QLD and the post code is 4806. I'll be anxiously waiting your reply and thanks again for that. I fitted some chrome eye lids on me bug the other day and now she's starting to get a bit of character, everytime i drive up the main street i get thumbs up from everyone. I'll send more pics asap ok