NOW AVAILABLE: Kafer Cup, K Bar Style Bars

The Kafer style bars are finally ready for you to order.

Kits can be purchased as a 3 bar or 5 bar, with all parts needed for installation supplied.

Price: $295 for the 3 bar Kit, $395 for the 5 bar kit.
Postage additional.

3 Bar kit includes:
1. 2 x Longer High Tensile shock bolts
2. 2 x Custom brackets (mounted to the upper shock point, same for 3 and 5 bar kit)
3. 6 x Custom made Clevis joints (3 RH and 3 LH threaded)
4. 1 x Long Aluminium cross bar
5. 2 x Short Aluminium support bars
6. 2 X Weld on brackets
*All components are plated and anodised
*All bolts,lock and flat washes, LH and RH nuts are supplied

5 Bar Kit includes ALL OF THE ABOVE plus
1. 2 x Short Aluminium support bars (4 in total for the kit)
2. 4 x Custom made Clevis joints (10 in total for the kit)
3. 2 x Weld on brackets (4 in total for the kit)

NOW IN STOCK AND READY FOR DELIVERY.
Postcode: 2142
Please post on here if you wish to order or just send me a PM.
NOW WITH **NEW KIT** PICTURED

Cheers
Craig T

very nice craig what does the kit weigh?

mactaylor wrote:very nice craig what does the kit weigh?

3 Bar Kit = 3.45kg
5 Bar Kit = 4.67Kg

Gearbox Cradle= 2.05kg.

Cheers
Craig Torrens

Sorry for the ignorance but do these things work on all Type 1's ie swing axle & IRS the same ???

Am very interested, even though Herb generally only can spin the wheels on wet grass.

Peter

Peter, yes it will work on swing as well as IRS........................you would be suprised at how much the forks flex even in a standard beetle, this will stop it. 👍

for everyone that has ordered, Thankyou. Will have them delivered within 2-3 weeks.

Still taking orders 👍

I have asked before, but do you fellas know of any first hand experience of these things in an Offroad veicle either a Baja or Buggy...

Im thinking they could be helpful in the soft stuff like sand ect, but would they hold up. Though knowing me ill never get a chance to get off road.

Oh by the way they look great!!

This kit will help with stopping the gearbox forks from flexing, this will most certainly occur in offroading.

And yes they will "hold up" with no problems 👍

I will be fitting this kit to my buggy.

Also intersted does the cradle pictured raise the trans at all? Or could you make one that does raise the trans as much as possible without cutting/altering body and then would the kafer bars still fit?
How much is the cradle as pictured.
Very nice set up 😉
Cheers
Jase

yes also interested in this answer. People running ej20's are moving the cradel forward 100mm how would this work on a subi bug with 091 box with these requirments?

Cheers Stephen

Hi Craig

Just wondering whether you had a chance to figure out a setup that would fit into a 54 oval?
The five bar is my preference.

cheers
Marcus

Tim Andrews wrote:Hey Craig,

These kits are still available, yeah?

yep, second batch is now ready.

I have had some changes made to the kit and will post some more photo's in the next day or so.

Marcus, yep it will fit a 54 beetle.

As for the cradle question, the new kits have tabs that you weld to the forks (front and rear braces) so ANY cradle could be used. You could also weld the tabs to your own cradle if you wish.

The cradle pictured locates the gearbox in its original position, and is solid mounted. The cradle sells for $100 as a complete gearbox strap/cradle kit, with mid section strap as well.

Cheers
Craig T

My foolish son put something stupid up here before ... I love my children 🙅

I'll be interested down the track when my new project is off and running. Good price.

photo of the new Kits........

mounted onto my "spare" irs pan !

bump

Well I ordered my Kafer Bar the other day and it took 24 hrs to arrive, so much for customer service, I waited by the front gate for like .. a long time .

Loosk just like the pic and if I had a car to put it on then I would take some pics

hehe, sorry brad I was hoping for a 23hr turnaround!

Craig Torrens wrote:hehe, sorry brad I was hoping for a 23hr turnaround!

Yeah well as soon as I have figured out how to read the instructions I will fit it up and take a picture or 3. Just not much room in the back of the oval now the EG33 is in there, damn 6 cylinders I should have stuck with the EJ 22 Grrrr

Of well live and learn.🥲

oval?

oval .. damn typo's I meant Split

Isn't that one of those rare turbo EG's too

bump

Hi Craig

Will these fit with stock heater boxes in place?

Steve

Craig,
PM sent mate.

Cheers.

Well I found a few spare minutes today to fit up one of Craig's 5 bar setups. This is in a 75 L Bug.

Went in without a hassle, everything fitted fine and the only thing I did differently was welded the rear tab to the cross member rather than the frame horn.

As luck would have it the supplied tabs fitted this application perfectly.







Out of 10 I would have to give it 10 at this stage. It was shipped fast, packed well and supplied as specified. Fitted perfectly and the quality is very good. Even with it just tacked in place it stiffens up the rear end.

👍👍👍👍

Hi Brad

Looks good. Why did you keep the stock L bug mounts? They are crap, its an easy conversion to fit an earlier mount frame.

Steve

1303Steve wrote:Hi Brad

Looks good. Why did you keep the stock L bug mounts? They are crap, its an easy conversion to fit an earlier mount frame.

Steve

Why are the crap ??

I have pulled 3 of them apart in the last week and all where unbroken, the same can not be said for the stock style ones in that every bug I pulled apart they were broken.

I will be running a Custom Vee Dub (www.customveedub.com.au) mid mount transaxle strap as well to make sure the box stays where I want it.

I figure the kafer bar, the transmission strap and the larger front box mount will see the EJ stay put.

Well at least it didn't fall out when I lifted it on the hoist....😂😂

Hi Brad

I agree they are usually are usually in one piece, unlike the usually oil soaked early ones, they are extremely soft and allow too much movement, but if your happy with them that's OK.

I just changed to the earlier type mount in my daily driver and even with a stock 1600 I can feel the difference.

Steve

Cheers Brad, I'm glad you are happy with the product 👍

bump

well i got my 5 bar kit personally delivered.........what service 😁, thanx Craig!

.......no time to get it on for dyno day, but if anyone wanted to check out the quality of this fine product, which is top notch❗, i would happily bring it along for people to ponder over..........let me know

well done Mr Torrens for providing us with cost effective, easily obtainable and top quality Aussie made stuff

This looks like just what I need, and at that price not worth making it myself. Hook me up!
PM sent.

hellbugged wrote:well i got my 5 bar kit personally delivered.........what service 😁, thanx Craig!

.......no time to get it on for dyno day, but if anyone wanted to check out the quality of this fine product, which is top notch❗, i would happily bring it along for people to ponder over..........let me know

well done Mr Torrens for providing us with cost effective, easily obtainable and top quality Aussie made stuff

Cheers Damien.......thanks for the great feedback.

You will be even more happy once its fitted !

liam66 wrote:This looks like just what I need, and at that price not worth making it myself. Hook me up!
PM sent.

I didn't get your PM ?!🙅

Craig Torrens wrote:

liam66 wrote:This looks like just what I need, and at that price not worth making it myself. Hook me up!
PM sent.

I didn't get your PM ?!🙅

Did you get my PM about the deposit mate? I have not heard back from you yet though???

Yep, sent you a PM............obviously you didn't get it !!!!

All good, have one on hold for you🙂

hi send a pm as well obviously it didnt work

anyways have you send a 5 bar one across to perth
you know how much it would be for postage

id be very interested

thanks
steffen

Another successful installation, went in like a charm.

The quality of these close up are absolutely excellent. Looks good on the car too.

Very happy Craig 👍 👍

Fitted like a glove !!

Just had to make a minor change to the shock bolt hole on the bodywork as it was a 58 shell on an IRS pan, this was about 10mins worth of work.

The car feels so much more solid in the rear now...................hope you're happy Mick ?!

Well, i haven't been able to make the back end bounce hop and skip when gunning through the gears.

Very happy thus far.

Craig Torrens wrote:Yep, sent you a PM............obviously you didn't get it !!!!

All good, have one on hold for you🙂

Hi Craig - yeah, no sign of your PM. Thanks for that mate - I'll have the rest paid to you in the next week. How much will freight to Canberra be roughly?

Give me a yell/sms on the mobile 0419986988.

Cheers mate.

Freight to Canberra is about $15.

If i see Craig in the next week i can drop it to ya Stump. Due in Canberra next Sunday - hoping your around stump???

Mick058 wrote:If i see Craig in the next week i can drop it to ya Stump. Due in Canberra next Sunday - hoping your around stump???

Mick,
That would be very helpful of you. I'll deposit the rest of the money tomorrow and then PM you and Craig when it is done. If you can collect the kit from craig and bring it to me I would be very grateful. Yep I'll be around all weekend.
Thanks mate.

Stu.

No probs Stu, will see how the week unfolds - no promises though.

Cheers, Mick

Craig,
Full amount is now paid into your account mate - check your PM's.

I look forward to some welding this weekend.

😎

your Kit is on its way !

Only 1 kit left!

Another one was installed on the weekend..............A new batch will be ready soon, so if you are thinking about getting a kit (Dasdubber and the rest !) then I suggest you place your order !!!!!

Hey Craig
Please put me down for a five bar one. A BJ IRS under an oval body.
I will PM you and you can let me know payment details etc.
cheers
Marcus

Well I have one of these bars and just want people to be aware they SUCK ... think long and hard before you buy one.

WHY - well because before I bought it my beetle was just a quick throw togeather nothing fancy, needed a rear engine support bar, so I got one of these, it arrived in under 48 hrs fitted perfect and looked awesome so before I knew it the beetle is in bits, booked in for a bare metal respray then after that off to Custom Vee Dub for a Subaru Conversion, cranky kit is on order, 17" mags are fitted, custom struts are made, windows are tinted and it is all because of those damn kafer bars looking so nice ....

You have been warned. Only buy one if you want a good looking, well built bar kafer bar setup.

Buggy Brad wrote:Well I have one of these bars and just want people to be aware they SUCK ... think long and hard before you buy one.

WHY - well because before I bought it my beetle was just a quick throw togeather nothing fancy, needed a rear engine support bar, so I got one of these, it arrived in under 48 hrs fitted perfect and looked awesome so before I knew it the beetle is in bits, booked in for a bare metal respray then after that off to Custom Vee Dub for a Subaru Conversion, cranky kit is on order, 17" mags are fitted, custom struts are made, windows are tinted and it is all because of those damn kafer bars looking so nice ....

You have been warned. Only buy one if you want a good looking, well built bar kafer bar setup.

Aa ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Yes it does not take much for the tsunami of mod to sweep through your project.😎

Some pics of a 5 Bar kit that I installed into a '76 beetle on the weekend, customer was wrapped with the outcome.

Hey Craig.

When will the new batch be ready? Work is in progress for my beetle pan so I am keen for mine.

cheers
Marcus

Batch is ready............a new 5 bar kit is patiently awaiting to be ordered by you and to be fitted to your pan !!

hi craig

did you receive my deposit?

cheers

steffen

Hi interested in your kaffer cup bars could you email me please I am in queenstown new zealand harry@queenstown.co.nz or phone +64 27 332685 Thanks

5 bar kit for me also please. PM sent.

Yogie

quick question, can these be fitted with the motor still in the car? or is it advisable to remove the motor and box?

Hi just wondering if any one has contact details for Craig as wanting to get some of his kaffer cup bars Cheers

Just PM Craig for now - his just having a busy spill at the moment - im sure he'll answer all the kafer bar questions in the next few days.

Cheers Mick.

baywindowbandit wrote:quick question, can these be fitted with the motor still in the car? or is it advisable to remove the motor and box?

yes, can be fitted with motor and box insitu still

mat54 wrote:hi craig

did you receive my deposit?

cheers

steffen

yep, have put a kit aside for you😎

HARRY QT wrote:Hi interested in your kaffer cup bars could you email me please I am in queenstown new zealand harry@queenstown.co.nz or phone +64 27 332685 Thanks

did you get my email ?

hellbugged wrote:

baywindowbandit wrote:quick question, can these be fitted with the motor still in the car? or is it advisable to remove the motor and box?

yes, can be fitted with motor and box insitu still

Have you fitted yours yet Daimo ?

You still making these? I'm after a 5 bar kit. Please get in touch to organise.

Cheers
Shane.

any 3 bar kits left, PM sent craig.

Hi Shane and Chris, yep I have 5 and 3 bar kits it stock and can post within 24hrs of the funds being deposited into my account.

Postage is around $20-30 Australia wide.

knowing i have one of these kit's ready to go, some people have asked about the "craigy bars", their size, and quality..........i think they're great, really well made with no tollerence issues in the joints etc...........good value $$........here are some more piccies for analysis............thanx Craig, sure saved me a lot of work!!!..........and i know he's not making a lot of $$ from the kit's, it's hardly worth the effort............anyway's it's only money, can't take it with ya😂







nice and thick with no chance of flex IMHO.......



tollerences as close as you will get!!!



obviously been around a while, Craig has cleary marked all the left hand thread pieces!!!....fool proof!



as Craig has pointed out, add up 10 of these and you'll start seeing the $$ invested.............adjustable, well finished, strong and durable, most importantly, serves the purpose it's designed for!!...........again, well done Craig and thanx!!

Hi Damian

Did you have yours on at Warwick?

Steve

1303Steve wrote:Hi Damian

Did you have yours on at Warwick?

Steve

NO!........decided to do it with the new box install.......launched like a nanna too....did you see some shudder/tramp?

Hi Damian

I was never close enough to notice, I had a 3 bar (bought elsewhere before Craig made them) on the daily that the son was driving, not that he needed it. Even with a 3 bar on a stocker you feel how much tighter the car is.

Steve

righteo.......looked like he was having a ball that's for sure and a polite young man too boot!..............drove round him after a shitty start, that was fun (for me anyways)😁

Hi Damian

Thanks for saying that, he only complained once about needing a bigger motor, I told him you need to be able to handle a stocker 1st.

Gets his Ps on the 1st November, scary thought.

Steve

too true Steve, stocker is enough for a long while!!...........i wouldn't loan my car to a young fella, even being a 1776...........beetles are great cars to "grow up" in, with their nippy performance and handling, but lower than average top speeds..........mine was a lot of fun once set up with all the goodies EXCEPT a decent motor

i'm sure you know all this anyways............still can't believe you're not still running around in that yellow SUPERbug you created, i loved that car, watching it evolve each year!

Hi Damain

I keep telling him how good a 1600 goes, without a big lump like me sitting next to him, I have a low spec 1776 waiting to be fitted, maybe when he gets his green Ps.

The new bug is getting close to going to the painters, would have been working on it all week on it but I picked up a wog at Warwick, most likely from Keith Hausler.

Steve

Hi Craig,
Do you ship to Hong Kong? If so, how much in total for 1x 5-bars kit, 1 x cradle with welded brackets and shipping cost?
Thanks
Tim

pm sent craig

1303RS wrote:Hi Craig,
Do you ship to Hong Kong? If so, how much in total for 1x 5-bars kit, 1 x cradle with welded brackets and shipping cost?
Thanks
Tim

Hi Tim, yes I have shipped OS so I'm happy to send to Hong Kong...........I will send PM with price.

Regards
Craig T

Craig,
Would these kits fit a Type 3?
Thanks,
Steve

Craig Torrens wrote:

1303RS wrote:Hi Craig,
Do you ship to Hong Kong? If so, how much in total for 1x 5-bars kit, 1 x cradle with welded brackets and shipping cost?
Thanks
Tim

Hi Tim, yes I have shipped OS so I'm happy to send to Hong Kong...........I will send PM with price.

Regards
Craig T

Great! I will wait for your PM.
Thanks
Tim

pm was sent a few days ago craig, not sure if u got it. all the money is in. cheers. let me know when u send it.

???????? GRAIG U ALIVE....

Yep I'm alive..........just been "out of town"...................your goodies are on there way 👍

will give you a call to discuss the cradle.

Shane, your kit has been posted as well.

Cheers
Craig T

Hutcho wrote:Craig,
Would these kits fit a Type 3?
Thanks,
Steve

Steve, see how he hasnt answered yet, he does not like Type 3's, the forgotten child syndrome 😘

Well Craigy answer the bloody question?

They dont fit type 3's..................unless you modify 😁

any chance of a cradle that allows use of standard mounts tho Craig?

Craig Torrens, can you send me a PM? About the 5 bar kafer setup.
gtmo1@bellsouth.net
Manny

hellbugged wrote:any chance of a cradle that allows use of standard mounts tho Craig?

Yeah im currently working on that................although welding the tabs to the forks is still the best option IMO.

W

yeah, i'll go the tabs on the forks, gotta pull it right apart anyways and always looking to upgrade as i go as you know...............doing the job in two weeks, any chance?

hi craig

i am ready to send the rest of the money now
send you a pm

can you contact me regarding postage and stuff please

cheers
steffen

Hi Craig
after a 5 bar setup if u still have any.
contact me please
misouri@optusnet.com.au

cheers craig mine arrived. it looks the goods, cant w8 2 get it in. thanks...

Thanks Chris.....

I'm now currently out of stock, with a new batch ready in about 3-4weeks...............but still taking orders👍

hey guys, instaled the kafer today but could only weld on the outside of the tabs. couldnt get the gun on the inside as the earbox was in the way.

do you think the weld still will be strong enough?

or maybe a stick welder can get in there?

Craig, I think I want one of those magnificent five bar setups.
It's going on a 2003 Ultima with Tangerine headers.
I have no clue as to how to get the passenger side bar to fit; there is a will, there must be a way.
Please, quote me in US$ with shipping.
Thanks,

Manny

Craig, are you busy?
I can skype you, only half a world away.
Also, is the engine cradle meant to be used with or without the urethane mounts?
Need a 5 bar setup

Cheers, Manny

chris fabian wrote:hey guys, instaled the kafer today but could only weld on the outside of the tabs. couldnt get the gun on the inside as the earbox was in the way.

do you think the weld still will be strong enough?

or maybe a stick welder can get in there?

As long as you are a good welder it should be OK.

The forum won't allow me to PM , I'll post a couple more times and try again.
Craig, contact me if you have the time.
Manny
gtmo1@bellsouth.net

1303RS wrote:

Craig Torrens wrote:

1303RS wrote:Hi Craig,
Do you ship to Hong Kong? If so, how much in total for 1x 5-bars kit, 1 x cradle with welded brackets and shipping cost?
Thanks
Tim

Hi Tim, yes I have shipped OS so I'm happy to send to Hong Kong...........I will send PM with price.

Regards
Craig T

Great! I will wait for your PM.
Thanks
Tim

Hi Craig,
Any update regarding the prices to Hong Kong? Thanks
Tim

Craig.
I have been tryng to get your attention for a while now.
Somehow, no results.
I wish to purchase a 5 bar kit.
Will you please reply.
Manny

Fishing on Sydney Harbour!😎

Off the Harbour now..........very relaxing !

New Kits now available 👍

Craig Torrens wrote:Off the Harbour now..........very relaxing !

New Kits now available 👍

Hi, how much to ship a 5-bar kit to Hong Kong?
Thanks
Tim

craig you have pm, will be in syd tomorrow & friday - hoping i you get this in time, fingers crossed!!!

...still chasing you craig...

lovely timing today craig, it looks good with the rest of my goodies from this roadtrip, looking forward to playing with it on the bug when i get home, thanks again 👍

Manny wrote:Craig Torrens, can you send me a PM? About the 5 bar kafer setup.
gtmo1@bellsouth.net
Manny

you going to answer this member craig?????

barls wrote:

Manny wrote:Craig Torrens, can you send me a PM? About the 5 bar kafer setup.
gtmo1@bellsouth.net
Manny

you going to answer this member craig?????

Yep I have.........via PM and email.

Oh and If anyone wants to know the price of the kit, its on the first page.

Cheers
Craig T

hey Craig, next batch can you knock me up a extra set of the brakets that weld to the chassis..........new car soon😁

hellbugged wrote:hey Craig, next batch can you knock me up a extra set of the brakets that weld to the chassis..........new car soon😁

INSERT MORE INFO HERE ❗

Hey, Craig, send me a kit. 3 bar or 5 bar, I never received email and one PM dated December 30. Ready to install now. I sent you two emails with no luck.I see there are no posts the last ten days.

hellbugged wrote:hey Craig, next batch can you knock me up a extra set of the brakets that weld to the chassis..........new car soon😁

No worries mate.........consider it done !

Manny wrote:Hey, Craig, send me a kit. 3 bar or 5 bar, I never received email and one PM dated December 30. Ready to install now. I sent you two emails with no luck.I see there are no posts the last ten days.

Hi Manny I will try and send another email............haven't been on here for a while so email is best.

Patience.........all great things take time.

My 3 bar kit was delivered exactly seven days after being mailed. I live in the USA.

It takes longer than that to get any parts delivered domestically.

A work of art in design. Same price as the CSP Kafer Bars but easier to install and much better design.

Here is the kicker....I can upgrade to a 5 bar any time by ordering the extra braces and weld tabs. The end pieces that bolt the shock struts together are set for either a 3 or 5 bar.

Thanks, Craig, for a great product.

Cheers Manny.......glad you're happy 👍

Send some photo's of your ride when you install the kit.

The kits are the best on the market for the price........IMO !!

Warwick, Portland, Wakefield Park.................if you want to race at these events then I suggest you fit a K Bar kit !!

PM me to order.

International orders welcome 👍

I got my 5 bar kit installed on the weekend, excellent product.

Damo.

I would love to buy one of the 5 bar kits but am not sure if it will fit an IRS ghia. Does anybody know if it will?

Yogie

It should fit an irs ghia.

I figured it would but was not sure. The pans are basically the same except for the front footwell area but am not certain of the rear shock mounting area.

Yogie

Hey Yogie, if it doesn't fit then I will be happy to give you a refund.................or do some slight modifications to make it fit !

Damo, any photo's of your kit installed ??

great product!

Craig Torrens wrote:Hey Yogie, if it doesn't fit then I will be happy to give you a refund.................or do some slight modifications to make it fit !

Damo, any photo's of your kit installed ??

Yes i do Craig but not home at the moment will post pics when i can.

Hi Craig,
Thanks for the offer. Can you send me a price that includes the cradle as well with posting to 4306 in Qld?

Cheers

Yogie

Hi Craig,
I have sent you a PM and some money as well.

Yogie

Im after a Kaefer set up for a type 3 with a Vn V6 Donk any chance of letting me know if you can supply a 5-bar setup?

More available guys and gals.

Tick this off your "to do" list for Warwick........Kits are packed and ready to send.

PM me to buy

V-Dubber wrote:Im after a Kaefer set up for a type 3 with a Vn V6 Donk any chance of letting me know if you can supply a 5-bar setup?

What year model is your Type 3 ?

Hey Craig, had anybody fit these to a Manx with IRS? I'm keen on a set but wondering if they'll go around the spare wheel well tub and battery tub (which have been slightly modified to clear the IRS trailing arms). If so, pix would be awesome!!

Craig Torrens wrote:

V-Dubber wrote:Im after a Kaefer set up for a type 3 with a Vn V6 Donk any chance of letting me know if you can supply a 5-bar setup?

What year model is your Type 3 ?

its a '73

ttriebler wrote:Hey Craig, had anybody fit these to a Manx with IRS? I'm keen on a set but wondering if they'll go around the spare wheel well tub and battery tub (which have been slightly modified to clear the IRS trailing arms). If so, pix would be awesome!!

Run a piece of string between the shock towers, this will give you an idea if the top bar will hit anything. Then just run a string line from the shock towers down to the front of the gearbox.............this will also let you know if the bars will hit anything.😎

V-Dubber wrote:

Craig Torrens wrote:

V-Dubber wrote:Im after a Kaefer set up for a type 3 with a Vn V6 Donk any chance of letting me know if you can supply a 5-bar setup?

What year model is your Type 3 ?

its a '73

The 73 model doesn't have any 'forks' under the gearbox........so it won't actually be mounting to anything........unless you want me to make up a cradle for the gearbox??

any extra mount plates this time?

Just a reference post for the people that have purchased the 5 bar kit.

4 tabs are supplied with the kit to be welded to the pan. 2 of the tabs have a curved bottom and 2 are just straight.
The curved tabs are for the bars that face towards the front of the car, and are designed to meet the contour of the forks.These tabs need to be welded parallel to the torsion tube (as per picture)

The straight bottom tabs are for the bars that go to the back of the car. These tabs are welded parallel to the forks (as per picture)

I hope this helps with your install 😎

they're so well built and shiny they make the rest of your car look like shit 🤪

thanks again craig 👍

No worries Joel..........good to see another happy customer 😎

Thanks for taking a photo of your install............and for anyone wanting to buy a kit, they are also now available in black 😎

Hmmm... black👍

Packed and ready to send to Darwin👍

Reubs....I sent you a black kit today👍

PM sent 👍

Simon, your kit is on its way😉

You gunna send me your bank details or is it free 😂

###SPECIAL###

I have 1 ONLY 3 bar kit for the special price of $350......that's a saving of nearly $50 !!!!!

Delivery is $20 to ANYWHERE in Australia 👍

First in best dressed 👍

PM to purchase.

Craig Torrens wrote:Simon, your kit is on its way😉

Well turned up today, so how is that for service!
Can't complain on the price either.... there was none!
Craig your going to have to send me your bank details if you want me to pay you (before I decide to do a runner) 😂

I knew you were good for it.....and I was sending out 6 kits so yours went as well !! 😎

and here i was thinking i was special with the only black one

thought i should also add im a lazy shit and installed mine without dropping the tranny
with some trick welding its easy as

The sprit of my kit is here in Darwin.... just waiting for the actual parts to turn up 😵‍💫

Joel wrote:and here i was thinking i was special with the only black one

thought i should also add im a lazy shit and installed mine without dropping the tranny
with some trick welding its easy as

you were special.........but you didn't give me the love i wanted so I "put out" for others! 😂

Joel wrote:and here i was thinking i was special with the only black one

thought i should also add im a lazy shit and installed mine without dropping the tranny
with some trick welding its easy as

he hee........i wanted to paint mine flat black until i spotted yours Joel............spose the stainless allen head bolt up grade is now factory issue too :🥲

well, i finally got mine up and in........glad i stuck to the factory colour cause it blends well with my rust background 🙅........if i can fit one of these with all the bonus spaghetti i have rigged up, they should fit anyones beetle.

they are certainly close tollerence engineered ❗......mine was welded in with the box and engine out, which normally would not cause any dramas.......

i couldn't get a couple of the bars to line up with the brackets until i realised that i had not loosened the berg hop bar back off the rear of the motor (this is used to pre load the motor and frame horns up and actually lifts the exhaust collector 15mm towards the body when tightened up)...

......SOOOOO after i did this, the Craig T bars went home and all was tightened up..........the berg bar didn't lift the exhaust collector near as far with the kafer bars now installed, indicating indeed they were doing their job stiffening the frame horns muchly gooderah....nice work Craig ❗

also backing off the curb and guttering out of my driveway, there is NOTICABLY LESS BODY CREAKING, infact there is barely a noise at all which is a far cry from the flexing evident only a few hours before installation...........i figure this increased body stiffness is coming from the two cast shockie towers now being tied together, and the body mounts from them having much less movement.......

happy days

another unhappy customer !! 😂

Hey Daimo, funny how the "factory colour" matches my ragtop 😂 !

Well my mate just welded it in for me. Stiffened it right up! As well as the car 😂
Thanks Craig!

Hi Craig,can I order a 3 point kit to suit a 56 oval pan? The shocker mounts are on an angle.Of course I need it ASAP as the car is at the workshop on the hoist and the new trans is going in this week.Cheers Nick

Sorry Nick, there's a three week wait for orders at the moment.............let me know if you still want one and i will send when ready. Cheers
Craig T

Glad to hear you got yours ok Humpty 😉

Please Mr Craig, I need a new set of the tabs that weld to the frame horns as my kafer bars are moving homes, gearbox is out and i'm ready to weld in the tabs........pretty please😁

Tabs will leave tomorrow Daimo...................send a dvd to me, please pretty please!!

New batch of K bars are less than a week away !!! Put your order in now if you want one.........before I sell out again!

Brad wrote:Well I found a few spare minutes today to fit up one of Craig's 5 bar setups. This is in a 75 L Bug.

Went in without a hassle, everything fitted fine and the only thing I did differently was welded the rear tab to the cross member rather than the frame horn.

As luck would have it the supplied tabs fitted this application perfectly.







Out of 10 I would have to give it 10 at this stage. It was shipped fast, packed well and supplied as specified. Fitted perfectly and the quality is very good. Even with it just tacked in place it stiffens up the rear end.

👍👍👍👍

Craig - looking at this set up - it appears that the rear mount is using the bolt into the fork? Is this correct? and I guess that means you only need to weld the front main member mounts then? Terry

I would hate to ruin the paint on my pan, how about you make up a bolt in kit Craig?
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is bolt in.............you just have to weld the tabs 😂

OK guys and gals.....you wanted a quality k bar kit, well they're ready to be packed and posted!

I only have 10 kits so be quick 😵‍💫

Mr Becker yours is ready to go ! 😉

Craig, your kit kicks arse i got one but my friend needs one for his oval, but the shock tower mounts are different do you have one to fit this application as he has installed a type 4 engine i built for him and it needs the bar kit for sure.

Damo.

The Kit fits Ovals with no probs 😎

Craig Torrens wrote:The Kit fits Ovals with no probs 😎

OK cool i will let him know.

Thanks Craig
I know they are weld in but if you could fab them so they are bolt in you would sell squillions and retire early?
How about it?

but my friend needs one for his oval, but the shock tower mounts are different do you have one to fit this application as he has installed a type 4 engine i built for him and it needs the bar kit for sure.

Damo.



Hi Craig...yes I would like to order one for our 56...do you have any left?

yep new batch has just been plated...........just pm me your delivery details and I will send you my bank details.

Regards
Craig T

Just sent you an email for a 3 bar kit. Please reply to my email address : jeremy_hk@hotmail.com
Thanks, Jeremy

Hi

I didn't buy one from Craig, but I have one on my sons 1303, these things really work, check out his burnouts at Warwick

Steve

Hi Craig

After a 5 bar setup

Give me a buzz 0414250996

Chris

Craig,

Have replied to your PM, I will grab a 5 piece thanks.

Kev

Hey Craig,

After a 5 bar setup give me a call on 0424343557

Rob

Hey craig, i was wondering how much suppport people are getting from the three bar set up. I wanna know if itll give my stock 1.6 a tight rear end. Or should i go to the five bar and have it strengthened right up.

Hi Craig

New to this forum
have to do a few posts before i send a PM
Interested in your 5 bar setup for my Manx
can you give me pricing
thanks
streeter

Do these come in red.

Just wanting to add up my posts so i can PM Craig

Craig Torrens wrote:yep new batch has just been plated...........just pm me your delivery details and I will send you my bank details.

Regards
Craig T

I have a 3 bar kit and am interested in the bolt on tabs for the frame horns. Would you sell them seperately? THANKS

Hi guys and gals.......due to popular demand, I've been forced to do another batch !!😂😂

You know the drill by now....🙄

You know you don't want to miss out AGAIN.....😵‍💫

So PM me asap with what you want and I will add it to the "batch" !!! 👍

funbug wrote:

Craig Torrens wrote:yep new batch has just been plated...........just pm me your delivery details and I will send you my bank details.

Regards
Craig T

I have a 3 bar kit and am interested in the bolt on tabs for the frame horns. Would you sell them seperately? THANKS

The tabs with my Kits are weld on only.

Cheers
Craig T

71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:Hey craig, i was wondering how much suppport people are getting from the three bar set up. I wanna know if itll give my stock 1.6 a tight rear end. Or should i go to the five bar and have it strengthened right up.

I have the 3 bar setup in my Ragtop........works well.

Just wanting to get contacted by craig for a 5 bars set up
Do you ship abroad ?

Hi craig, sent you a couple pm's but they may not have gotten through, I'm after a 3 bar kit.

Hi Craig,
What is the current pricing on the 3 bar and 5 bar set ups? Please let me know.

thanks

David Gouk

What's does these bars designed to do. Any pro's and con's between 3 and 5 bar setups. What would the advantage be if I added one to my 1963 beetle running standard swing axle box and a 1776cc engine.
Thanks Chris

drgouk wrote:Hi Craig,
What is the current pricing on the 3 bar and 5 bar set ups? Please let me know.

thanks

David Gouk

$390 and $550 plus delivery of around $25.

Cheers Craig T

jeeptoylander wrote:Just wanting to get contacted by craig for a 5 bars set up
Do you ship abroad ?

Yes, and I'm happy to send to France 😎......I have sent you an email.

SuperOwen wrote:Hi craig, sent you a couple pm's but they may not have gotten through, I'm after a 3 bar kit.

Yep I've added you to the order.............should be ready in about 2 weeks..

Only a few left so get in quick 😎

What are these bars designed to do. Any pro's and con's between 3 and 5 bar setups. What would the advantage be if I added one to my 1963 beetle running standard swing axle box and a 1776cc engine.
Thanks Chris

They are designed to stop the forks on the floorpan (what holds the gearbox and engine) from flexing when you launch hard or under acceleration..........this flexing contributes to "axle hop" which BREAKS gearboxes.

The 5 bar kit is the Ultimate way to go as it completely triangulates the forks giving 100% support. The 3 bar kit is perfect for street cars or in situations where removing the gearbox to weld the back tabs is not an option.....

Both Kits would be an advantage for your car/setup, but to get the maximum benefit it should be fitted in conjunction with a gearbox strap kit, gearbox mid mount and heavy duty gearbox mounts. 👍

Do I put you down for a 5 or 3 bar tazkralc ?

Another one going to France !!!

Hi Craig,
I've tried PMing a couple of times but no luck.
I'm after the 5 bar for my setup.
Dangerous Dave will have the gearbox ready soon and this is all I'm missing before everything goes back together for 1/4 mile tuning.
Can I call you or you could text me your # on 0402 327 383?
Thanks
Dean

I have sent my number to you 😉

Craig Torrens wrote:Another one going to France !!!

I think you need a website mate.

Just received a 5 point kit from Craig,I must say the workmanship is excellent and they are a high quality product.Craig is very easy deal with and I'd recommend these to anyone.Sure they might cost a bit more but if you want a product that is properly engineered and well made then you gotta pay.No one likes a sloppy arse,even in their VW😎

Does the 3 point brace work with heater boxes?

56t4 wrote:Just received a 5 point kit from Craig,I must say the workmanship is excellent and they are a high quality product.Craig is very easy deal with and I'd recommend these to anyone.Sure they might cost a bit more but if you want a product that is properly engineered and well made then you gotta pay.No one likes a sloppy arse,even in their VW😎

Glad youre happy..........and your arse will be nice and tight now😂

funbug wrote:Does the 3 point brace work with heater boxes?

I will double check for you.

Hello Craig,
I would like ot order 1 3 bar set.
please kindly PM me price and lead time.
thanks
Godz

Just a quick question, is it possible to fit the 3 bar set up and then laer on add the extra 2 bars to make it a 5 bar kit?

yes.

hey craig, not that you need them, but pics of 5 bar mounted up in relation to body shell is in my thread. they arent quite stock locations though (RHS has flipped shock) & no body/pan seal.

Does the 3 point brace work with heater boxes?

Have you had an opportunity to check, whether the torque bar fits with heater boxes?

Like Funbug, I'm interested in running the 3 bar set up with heater boxes.

Thanks.

Hey Craig,

Can you please pm me about the 3bar i sent a pm but no reply 🙁

Hey Craig,

payment sent 👍

HI Craig, I have seen you talk about a rear solid and a mid-mount gearbox mount... have you fabricated anything here??? Are these kits in aid of using standard mounts ... or ... do we still need pretty beefy rear and mid mounts? (mid mount style i am thinking is similar to a gene berg mount with a plate mounted to the nosecone bolts and then supported to the frames via a utherane washer ((thick)) and a welded tab...)

Question is do we need solid mounts and do you sell them??? Pics

666bug wrote:Hey Craig,

payment sent 👍

Cheers, Kit will leave today or tomorrow 😎

Aussie Dubbin wrote:HI Craig, I have seen you talk about a rear solid and a mid-mount gearbox mount... have you fabricated anything here??? Are these kits in aid of using standard mounts ... or ... do we still need pretty beefy rear and mid mounts? (mid mount style i am thinking is similar to a gene berg mount with a plate mounted to the nosecone bolts and then supported to the frames via a utherane washer ((thick)) and a welded tab...)

Question is do we need solid mounts and do you sell them??? Pics

The K Bar kit stops the forks from flexing and also stiffens the chassis in the rear via the triangulation of the bracing..............what it doesn't stop is the gearbox moving in relation to the forks, this being caused by theflexing of the rubber mounts under load.

To get the FULL benefits from the K bar kit, then YES you need to uprate the gearbox mounting from the standard setup.

In my Ragtop (roadcar setup) I have used the CB Performance Rhino gearbox mount kit, with a strap over the bellhousing and and a mid mount strap kit. This works very well, but in some instances i get very minor tramp.

With my 76 road beetle that is now being used for street drags, I have solid mounted the gearbox via a custom cradle and the berg style mid mount that is solid (no urethane washer). This is the best solution for race applications and minor road use, but if you have a street beetle/daily driver then I would suggest the rhino mounts.

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=643

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=641

I have a solid kit available for sale, pm if youre interested.

zayus wrote:

Does the 3 point brace work with heater boxes?

Have you had an opportunity to check, whether the torque bar fits with heater boxes?

Like Funbug, I'm interested in running the 3 bar set up with heater boxes.

Thanks.

Will find out this weekend 😎

Mine didnt clear, the left heaterbox hit the bar with the bellhousing about 1" from home

Joel wrote:Mine didnt clear, the left heaterbox hit the bar with the bellhousing about 1" from home

Joel how did you overcome that?

I ditched the VW engine 😂

sorry not much help.
I had to run Jpipes to get it to fit

If you got creative with a welder and some pipe you might be able to send the heaterbox around the the bar

Would a ball pene hammer help it fit, maybe dent the heaterbox enough?

Would be interesting to see a kit for the type3. Thats the early ones with frame horns of course 👍
No use on late model unless you bolt on an early subframe first. Would have to be all weld on tabs because of the way the shocker bolts on at the top.

vlad01 wrote:Would be interesting to see a kit for the type3. Thats the early ones with frame horns of course 👍
No use on late model unless you bolt on an early subframe first. Would have to be all weld on tabs because of the way the shocker bolts on at the top.

The principle would be the same, but the cross bar wouldn't work obviously... There is no top shock bolt to link to.... I reckon if one was to fabricate a top plate that replaces the rubber grommet that fits between the body and shock tower, the cross bar and drop links could be made to work.... I've been thinking on this for a while now....

By the way Craig... Forgot to mention.... The 3 bar I got off you last year fitted really well.... But the LHS J tube of my Berg header (fitted when I briefly took the turbo off the POS) interfered with with LH drop link... I may have fitted the frame horn tab to close to the belhousing.... Is there a recommended distance from the bellhousing?

??????!!!!!!!!!!???????????? 🤪
Thats not a good idea. you need those rubber mounts. just make a similar bracket to these bar bits but do away with the thread and just make it weld on. (ie. 3 point weld on bracket)

I have been thinking about this a long time also, and I got a rear clip and sub frame to play with. there is tonnes of meat on the top towers to weld to.

Also I would rather all brackets weld on rather than bolt on.

type 3 shock towers stiff enough anyways, but yes frame horns need help like all the others.

just get craigs kit and chop off the threaded part for the shock bolt.........weld the 3 point linkage onto the shock tower.......done!

vlad01 wrote:??????!!!!!!!!!!???????????? 🤪
Thats not a good idea. you need those rubber mounts.

I don't have them there any longer.... I fitted machined aluminum spacers to go there.... The rear subframe is now solid mounted to the chassis and will soon be tied into the body.... TIII's and Notch's in particular are very weak in the rear half of the body, so it all needs to be tied together better IMHO.... A rear engine/transaxle carrier will be the next thing to fabricate, and the 'K' bar set-up will be part of this...

what? notchback and fastback the weakest lol 😁

The squareback is. With its tower like rear structure, its like joining two bricks with a strip of paper.

New to the forum, I'm interested in a 3 bar setup for a 71 Super. Cheers.

With some modification Craig's bars do the job well on an early pan👍

Another happy customer here. Thanks Craig.

Kev

Cheers Kev......glad you're happy 😎


Thanks to 56t4 my K Bar kits now fit beetles from 1954-1957 (Oval Pan had different shock towers!).........so ANY beetle from 54-76 can now enjoy the benefits of this performance kit 😎

Another 'batch' will be made shortly, so please PM me if you would like to reserve a kit 👍

Hi Craig
I'm begging please please please make a kit that is bolt on without welding.

Mick

why do you want a bolt in kit, do you not have access to a welder ?

Hi Craig
Yes i do have 2 welders, the problem is i dont want to muck up the pretty paintwork on the pan.

Oh, ok ! I can weld the tabs onto the engine cradle (aftermarket cradle) if that helps ? This will mean you will have to remove the motor etc to fit it, but it will keep your pretty paint from being damaged !!!

Hey Craig, can you tell me the dimensions of the 5 bar kit from point to point including the brackets?

I think I have had a light bulb moments in a dream last week regarding these bars and type 3's

Craig, PM sent. Paul

vlad01 wrote:Hey Craig, can you tell me the dimensions of the 5 bar kit from point to point including the brackets?

They're adjustable, so the point to point changes 😂

yeah but roughly? or are type 3 sub frames same geometry as type 1?

mate, i would like to express intention to order the 5ponts kafer brace for my superbeetle..can you post me some information or payment details..

Cheers,

Hi Halimaw, i have sent you an email 👍

Craig,

read ya bloody PM's will ya 😁

Camo wrote:Craig,

read ya bloody PM's will ya 😁

I do.......you left me one today at 12.20, 3 mins before this post.😂😂

Craig Torrens wrote:

Camo wrote:Craig,

read ya bloody PM's will ya 😁

I do.......you left me one today at 12.20, 3 mins before this post.😂😂

Yeah, but you never read the one from 2 weeks ago 🙅

I didnt get that one 😢

did you get mine? ya lousy animal. 😠

read your pm's you wally !

Need a set of 3 bar kit, please email me.

Hi Craig. Very keen for a three-bar kit. I've sent you an email.

Cheers, Matt.

Spindley wrote:Hi Craig. Very keen for a three-bar kit. I've sent you an email.

Cheers, Matt.

Hi MAtt, email replied to !

NEW BATCH NOW DONE..........Grab em while they're hot !!

Craig, what about me? a 3 bar kit.

Hi Craig. I've emailed you back for a 3-bar kit. Enthusiasm restored, the project is underway!

yellowgodzilla wrote:Craig, what about me? a 3 bar kit.

you too !

Thanks Craig, waiting for your reply.

This is a great read!

Hi Craig,

Paid and email.
please check and advise.

Thanks

Hey Craig.

You have PM about a 3 bar kit.

Thanks.



Smiley 🙂

I know you can fit these with the motor and box in place, but how hard is it to do that?

baywindowbandit wrote:I know you can fit these with the motor and box in place, but how hard is it to do that?

Not very....

Yo Craig..... Can you do me a deal on the front bars.... I want to upgrade the K Bar I grabbed a couple of years back.... I'll be in Sydney for the drags by the way... Be good to catch up.

Yep, no probs.......do you need them now or will you pickup at the drags ?

I'll pick them up at the drags Craig.

Hey Graig, can you put me down for a 5 bar kit? PM me the details

You have PM Vlad

Craig,
Can you please let me know if there will be any heater box clearance issues on a 61 Ghia with heater boxes?

Cheers!

Got mine, very impressed with the quality and the packing, took me 30 min to get the dam pallet wrapping off 😂

If anyone is wondering, Yes they can fit type 3 providing that you bore a large hole right through the shock tower in place of the shocker bolt hole and weld in a very thick crush tube and use longer bolts replacing the bolts that come with the kit. Then it will work and mount the same way as intended for bug.

I have used studs to test fit these but will go for the crush tube and through bolt setup for strength and rigidity.

I'm also interested to know about heater box clearance. For a type 3.

I don't know, I am not even considering the type 3 engine to power mine so its not an issue.

I am guessing it would be a tight fit with the heat exchangers.

hi craig do you have any 3 bar kits and how mutch incl postage to gunnedah thanks ps can u ad the 5 bar kit at a latter date if i have the room

bug68m, you have pm.

I have one kit left (thats if bug68m doesn't buy it!).........and this will be the last one for this year.

Hi Craig,
Are you still doing these kits? I'm interested in a 5 bar kit.
Sent a PM the other day, can you please PM details?

Hi Goosey, I didn't get your pm..........yes still doing them so I will send you a pm with details.

Hi craig, When useing the 3bar kit do the link bars run forward or aft of the top crossbar. I imagine aft but thought i'd check. Regards Mike.😎

aft.....back down to near the gearbox cradle.

Here is a pic of the 5 bar kit, the 3 bar is the same less the 2 bars going forward.

Hey mate, any chance on a response about any possible heater box interference?

Cheers

On what model of car ?

I'm so keen for this. Would be doing it once the pan is split from the body.

5 käfer cup bar set. Can you PM me details Craig for shipping cost to Adelaide?

Thanks!

SebastienPeek wrote:I'm so keen for this. Would be doing it once the pan is split from the body.

5 käfer cup bar set. Can you PM me details Craig for shipping cost to Adelaide?

Thanks!

1961 Ghia Coupe............I asked forever ago, but ended up putting the car in storage where it's been for 2.5 years. It's coming out in May, so putting together a parts list for a transaxle and engine upgrade...

Cheers!

Sorry mate, missed your previous post. 👍

I'm not sure if it will clear or not.

If you can get a straight piece of rod (cut broomstick!) from the shock towers to near your gearbox cradle then it should fit.

I'm currently out of stock of all kits, and would need to have at least orders for 10 kits before I will be making any more. So if anyone wants one please post on here your interest. 😎

Thanks Craig! I'm putting together a parts list, so I'll have to wait until the car and I are reunited in May to get to the bottom of this one.......

Cheers!

I'm in for one Craig.

I'm in for a 5 bar kit thanks craig.

Hi Craig,
I did not receive a PM, did you manage to get one sent?

Add another setup for me Craig... At your earliest convenience....

Hello Craig,

I would be interested in a 5 bar kit.

Hi Craig
I'm interested in your 5 bar kit for a Type 1 late model Ghia.
Could you pm me with availability, cost & contact details please.
Ta mate
sirzo

Hi Craig. If you are still making these I would like a 3 bar Kit.

Nicko

Hi Craig im after one thanks!, 3 bar kit at this stage please

Craig Torrens wrote:I'm currently out of stock of all kits, and would need to have at least orders for 10 kits before I will be making any more. So if anyone wants one please post on here your interest. 😎

Do you have any new stock?

Hi Craig, I am after a set if you are making a batch. Thanks

?

Sorry, but with the cost of materials its just not worth my while atm to make any more.🙁

Is it possible to comission you to make a set? I am happy to negotiate a price for quality.

No probs......shoot me a pm with your contact info.

Any chance of jumping on Jiminy's bandwagon for another set?
regards & Happy New Year

Thanks Craig. Sirzo - I will mention to Craig there maybe others interested pending the new price.

Thanks Michael. That would be good

PM sent.
Cheers,
Willie.

Ok Ok, due to demand I will make some more 😍 🤪

Price will be $595 for the 5 bar setup and $459 for the 3 bar. (this will be the new price from now on)

If anyone wants a set I will need payment up front and it will take around 3-4 weeks to manufacture. (plating etc takes a while to get done)

I need a minimum of 5 orders...............so please pm me asap if you want one 👍

Cheers

2 people have confirmed interest.......need more before I can start.

With Sydney VW drags just around the corner this is the perfect time to get one !

Hi Craig did you get my pm to add me to the list?
Thanks again

No, but I will shoot you a pm.

Hi Craig I got your pm but I'm not sure if my pms can go out as the outbox always shows 0.
But I will commit & deposit money in your account late next week.
Thanks
sirzo

Cheers Sirzo....email and PM received.

Sydney drags is just around the corner..............time for a K bar 👍

What a legend! Thanks Craig for making these again!

Looking forward to my 5 bar kit 🙅

Hello,

I'm pretty keen for a 5 bar if it's not too late, but I won't have all the money for another week or two unfortunately.
Are you likely to be going ahead before then?
If yes then i'll see what I can come up with so I don't miss out.

Also, how much would a second set of the weld on tabs cost so I can fit the kit to my runner, but eventually transfer it to my project car?

Thanks
Regards
Ben

Ben, you have PM.

Production has started 👍

Pm sent.

Cheers blaksheep.

PM sent ref payment

At this stage the "special batch" should be completed (ready for postage/pickup) by mid next week. Thanks to all that have paid up front to make this possible.

I have made a few extra kits, so if anyone is wanting one then now is the time to buy 👍

Batch is now finished, so for those that have paid me I have sent you a PM with regards to delivery.
Cheers

Pm sent 👍

Kit arrived yesterday. The workmanship on these kits is outstanding!
You're a talented craftsman, Craig.
Many thanks again,
Willie.

Cheers Willie 👍

Hi Craig - any chance you could give me a call on 0414315228 . Cheers tony.

got mine the other week, very nice bit of kit! Thanks Craig!!

I have a couple of 5 bar kits left over from the last batch for sale...........let me know via pm if you are wanting one 👍

Any of these fit an early type 3?

bus914 wrote:Any of these fit an early type 3?

I'm also interested in early type 3 setup!

No they wont.... Type 3's are entirerly different under there.... You'll be having to make your own... At the very least you'll need to fabricate different top shock mounts for the drop bars and the cross bar.

I'm happy to make a type 3 setup....BUT.... I need access to a type 3 for setting up jigs etc.

bus914, maybe I come up to the central coast some time and have a look at what is needed ?

I've got an early type 3 with swingaxle trans in Hornsby that you're welcome to put up on jack stands, pop the wheels off and take measurements of if you like Craig. PM me if you want.

Also I've got a 76 I'd like to build up to be a weekend track car, so I'd like to get a set of your Kafer bars fitted & some general parts/setup advice if you're willing to give it.

Cheers, Dave.

Craig you're welcome to come have a look at my chassis if you want to get an idea of the type 3 measurements I'm in Sydney. I did a my Kafer truss setup myself because nothing was available. The body is still off so it's easy to see. It's a semi detachable setup. Crossbar and two forward facing struts I welded in. The two rear struts connecting to the rear gearbox mount is removable via clevis style connection.
Cheers, Paolo.

A Type 3 version would be great... My brothers WRX powered Notch could benefit from it... He is upgrading the subframe to an IRS converted HD Squareback swingaxle version soon, so it would be a perfect chance to do this mod.

DOKA Dave wrote:I've got an early type 3 with swingaxle trans in Hornsby that you're welcome to put up on jack stands, pop the wheels off and take measurements of if you like Craig. PM me if you want.

Also I've got a 76 I'd like to build up to be a weekend track car, so I'd like to get a set of your Kafer bars fitted & some general parts/setup advice if you're willing to give it.

Cheers, Dave.

Sounds good Dave, maybe we catch up after easter 😎

eXraycer wrote:Craig you're welcome to come have a look at my chassis if you want to get an idea of the type 3 measurements I'm in Sydney. I did a my Kafer truss setup myself because nothing was available. The body is still off so it's easy to see. It's a semi detachable setup. Crossbar and two forward facing struts I welded in. The two rear struts connecting to the rear gearbox mount is removable via clevis style connection.
Cheers, Paolo.

Thank you for the offer. I will have a look at Dave's cars first and then maybe yours too. Cheers

No worries Craig. You're more than welcome to use it for measurements after Easter.

Hey Paulo, hope your fasty is close to paint. Can't wait to see it up and running.

Dave, it's been under hi fill for best part of a year. Been a struggle this last year so I put it on the backburner till I get funds and time to do another big push to get the body painted and back on the chassis. Till then I'm just gettin my chassis all minty and fresh so when I attack the body again I can sit it back on the chassis straight after paint.

Craig, happy to help if you need it. Mine were carefully set out to thread past the heater boxes because I wasn't committed to the idea of no heaters. I mounted up the motor and tranny before tacking the tabs in position. I think from memory I tried setting it out using the top shock bolts but just couldn't seem to get the rear struts down to the gearbox cradle without hitting the starter motor or the heater boxes or the heater cable. That's when I decided to put the crossbar in front of the shocks on the shoulder of the shock tower.

Its really tight trying to make it work with the heater boxes and heater cable lever and the top of the CV joints but I'm sure you already know that. This is the only position I could find if you have any intention of keeping the heaters.

BTW, I had mine professionally TIG welded because I wanted to get engineers cert on the IRS conversion so it all got welded at the same time after I did all the setting out and tacks so contrary to what it may seem making my own did not work out cheaper than buying one of Craig's Kafer cup setups.

Hi Craig
Your kits look great.
After circuit racing 30 years ago with Paul Z I'm getting back into the VW scene
I would like to order a 5 bar kit
What type of payment do you accept
ie Paypal or money trans

Cheers
Andrew
0418 650838

I will give you a call tomorrow Andrew 👍

Hi Craig,

Keen on a kit if you could give me a buzz when you get a chance.

Jimmy 0401767558

Happy customer...great quality

jhs64 wrote:Hi Craig,

Keen on a kit if you could give me a buzz when you get a chance.

Jimmy 0401767558

Will do Jimmy.

Cheers

555bug wrote:Happy customer...great quality

Thank you..........post pics up when you do the install 😎

Hi Craig,

Not sure if I have had a missed call from you or not(minor phone issues). As I'm new to the forum I cant post a PM but very keen on a kit if you have one available, probably 5 bar. I have a Pan that is just about ready to be bolted up to the body so figure a good time to fit it up.

If you do get the chance to give ma a buzz on 0401 767 558 that would be great or flick me an email at jimmystrong@strongcoffee.net.au

Cheers

Jimmy

Left a message on your phone today Jimmy 👍

Thanks Craig,

Picked up your message but obviously with your phone issues cant get back to you. Just give me a buzz again when you can.

Jimmy

Who has got one of these sitting next a project that is on hold they want to sell me?

Hey Craig,
I'm after a 5 way but need to talk you you about the setup.
Can you give me a call on 0434943058
Cheers Heath

N.L.A Heath

Cheers Hellbugged. I will get them from a source overseas.

http://www.coolrydescustoms.com/the-stiffy---kafer-bar-system.html

I know of a mendeola set for sale here in Australia.
I can double check tomorrow

Please let me know hellbugged.Sounds great.