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kroozzn63 ·
nice plug craig . ill have to get one one day
Bizarre ·
is this the rag??
Hmm.....hill climb
Obviously not 🤓
Who and how much head work
Cam?
Hmm.....hill climb
Obviously not 🤓
Who and how much head work
Cam?
Bizarre ·
Sorry - WELL DONE!
silver ·
I thought the wins were BECAUSE of horsepower because your driving is crap lol lol lol lol
Bizarre ·
Damn red wineCraig Torrens wrote:Pobjoy spec cam
Grey 57 ·
Twin plugs , gotta love em. How much extra HP do they make over the same spec single plug 1916 do you think Craig??
BeetleJuice ·
Craig,Congrats to you and Stan! Be interesting to see how one of Stan's potent Hillclimb Engines goes at the drags!
CP
CP
hellbugged ·
well done!................and THANKYOU!
what sort of springs & rockers Craig?
compression ratio?
what sort of springs & rockers Craig?
compression ratio?
greedy53 ·
well done a great combo driver with the right donk
and just a side note a fellow in melb has supercharged one running 10lb bost would you like his email could be an interesting conversation espaciallyt for hill climbs a massive amount of torque OH he and stan did it so its right
and just a side note a fellow in melb has supercharged one running 10lb bost would you like his email could be an interesting conversation espaciallyt for hill climbs a massive amount of torque OH he and stan did it so its right
reub ·
Nice👍
Would guess this would be running reasonable compression?
Should get mineu on the dyno one of these days too 🙂
Would guess this would be running reasonable compression?
Should get mineu on the dyno one of these days too 🙂
dangerous ·
Good number Craig.
When are you going to the strip?
Good combo.
When are you going to the strip?
Good combo.
pete wood ·
I notice the readout says the dyno was in shootout mode. that wouldn't boost the readout would it? 🥷
but seriously, 138hp ATW from an under 2litre, natrually aspirated, 2v per cyl, pushrod 4 is very impressive. your not tempted to put some IDAs on it are you?
but seriously, 138hp ATW from an under 2litre, natrually aspirated, 2v per cyl, pushrod 4 is very impressive. your not tempted to put some IDAs on it are you?
Mick058 ·
I thought shoot-out mode was the one that didn't add the 'boost'. Anyways, i reacken the drag is the real tester (even though gearboxes and drivers, weight etc make a difference). Heard of a guy with a bug that spent thousands on a dyno tune and was told he had an extra 20hp from the 'fine tuning', yet his 1/4 mile times were the same....hmmm, i wonder how effective the 'fine tuning' really was????
How do you ever know if your dyno is for true HP? The bigger reading you get, the more you can brag, the more money Mr Dyno makes....
In saying that, im not having a lend of Craig, i was blown away by the base 1916 without plugs, let alone the steriod with twin plugs.
How do you ever know if your dyno is for true HP? The bigger reading you get, the more you can brag, the more money Mr Dyno makes....
In saying that, im not having a lend of Craig, i was blown away by the base 1916 without plugs, let alone the steriod with twin plugs.
JVLRacing ·
Engine dynos.....😎
Mick058 ·
engine dyno's? I'm very much a novice, please explain.
JVLRacing ·
All your power HPs will be measured to your flywheel!...
Mick058 ·
But they could still tweak their machine/program? Or does that eliminate any play?
pete wood ·
I was being silly.
I'm sure that's a real world figure. Craig has nothing to gain from pretend numbers. He already owns the titles. 👍
I'm sure that's a real world figure. Craig has nothing to gain from pretend numbers. He already owns the titles. 👍
Nikos ·
Hi Gents,
New member, second post. Picked up a 70 Ghia Vert recently. Looking at a restoration down the track, but aiming for mechanical reliability in the interim.
Spoke to Stan Pobjoy last week regarding the base 1916, but might be overkill for what I need. Not interested in 1/4 mile times, however a little get up n go with great reliability would be nice.
Any suggestions, feedback would be appreciated. I'm based in Sydney. Not sure if there are regular gtg, where I could get some advice and direction.
Sorry if this is O/T and hijacking the thread.
Cheers,
Nikos
New member, second post. Picked up a 70 Ghia Vert recently. Looking at a restoration down the track, but aiming for mechanical reliability in the interim.
Spoke to Stan Pobjoy last week regarding the base 1916, but might be overkill for what I need. Not interested in 1/4 mile times, however a little get up n go with great reliability would be nice.
Any suggestions, feedback would be appreciated. I'm based in Sydney. Not sure if there are regular gtg, where I could get some advice and direction.
Sorry if this is O/T and hijacking the thread.
Cheers,
Nikos
Mick058 ·
ha, not having a dig at you Pete or Craig, just find it to be an interesting topic. Got a mate who has a turbo charged 1300 mini (starlet engine) boasting 145hp, but runs late 14's at the drags. i would of thought he'd be quicker (again depends on weight, tyres etc (though he weights 65kg).
And my understanding is that theres an old dyno scale and a new one.
Heard of a bloke that drove to one dyno and got one reading, then drove straight to another and got 25hp higher reading.
I'd like to dyno my car but want a true reading.
And my understanding is that theres an old dyno scale and a new one.
Heard of a bloke that drove to one dyno and got one reading, then drove straight to another and got 25hp higher reading.
I'd like to dyno my car but want a true reading.
BeetleJuice ·
I thought it was a chassis dyno!❓JVLRacing wrote:All your power HPs will be measured to your flywheel!...
BeetleJuice ·
I thought a Dyno Dynamics with shootout mode standardises readings, allowing for climatic conditions,altitude etc. Therefore these dyno's Australia wide should be considered equal.Mick058 wrote:I thought shoot-out mode was the one that didn't add the 'boost'. Anyways, i reacken the drag is the real tester (even though gearboxes and drivers, weight etc make a difference). Heard of a guy with a bug that spent thousands on a dyno tune and was told he had an extra 20hp from the 'fine tuning', yet his 1/4 mile times were the same....hmmm, i wonder how effective the 'fine tuning' really was????
How do you ever know if your dyno is for true HP? The bigger reading you get, the more you can brag, the more money Mr Dyno makes....
In saying that, im not having a lend of Craig, i was blown away by the base 1916 without plugs, let alone the steriod with twin plugs.
What I do find interesting is that no other dyno numbers from other forum members has been challenged or scrutinised in any way!
I guess DB will chime in.
CP
colin ·
Okay guys lets talk about dyno,s on a new thread and not hijack Craigs .
bat69 ·
Anyone who knows anything about dynos knows its a 'real' atw figure.
1303Steve ·
Hi
A common way that people cheat with dyno figures even in shoot out mode is to alter BP (barometric pressure), if you look on the bottom of Craigs chart you will see BP: 101.5 which is the correct BP for dyno shop situated in Sydney.
Steve
A common way that people cheat with dyno figures even in shoot out mode is to alter BP (barometric pressure), if you look on the bottom of Craigs chart you will see BP: 101.5 which is the correct BP for dyno shop situated in Sydney.
Steve
Euro_67 ·
Gotta be happy with the result, and know it will cop your abuse for years to come !
Do the twin plug heads make that much difference ?
where is the second plug located ?
How much of a deviation from the standard 1916 pobjoy offerings ?
Do the twin plug heads make that much difference ?
where is the second plug located ?
How much of a deviation from the standard 1916 pobjoy offerings ?
Craig Torrens ·
😊
VWFREAK ·
He's definitely the mad scientist of the VW engine world. POBJOY does some crazy stuff and produces the numbers where they count.
Great stuff
Great stuff
Dasdubber ·
Nice number Craig - will be good to see you venture into the straight line stuff after years of roundy rounds!
Craig Torrens ·
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JVLRacing ·
cough*bullshit*cough😂Marriage has bounded you!😎
BeetleJuice ·
Cheers Dave.
won't be on the strip for a few months yet. I've been removing all the swaybars, bracing and "hillclimb" stuff off the car. There is also rust I need to fix before it can be registered.............. and I would like to get 145hp out of the 1916 before I hit the drags !
I'm going to try a pair of 48 idf's next to see if that will help produce some more top end power. (although I haven't played with the 44's yet !)
Cheers
Craig t [/quote]
What's the go Craig? What else do you have brewing??
CP
won't be on the strip for a few months yet. I've been removing all the swaybars, bracing and "hillclimb" stuff off the car. There is also rust I need to fix before it can be registered.............. and I would like to get 145hp out of the 1916 before I hit the drags !
I'm going to try a pair of 48 idf's next to see if that will help produce some more top end power. (although I haven't played with the 44's yet !)
Cheers
Craig t [/quote]
What's the go Craig? What else do you have brewing??
CP
Sioux ·
how much would a turnkey pobjoy 1916 cost ?
reub ·
Did you end up dynoing with the new exhaust??
trickysimon ·
Got any videos of the sidewinder? Can't wait to hear what mine sounds like 🙂
reub ·
Look forward to hearing about the results Craig.
I put my sidewinder on the 58, as you know, but was suprised to hear it wasn't much quieter - the induction noise is still the loudest part of my car 😀
I've not had mine on the dyno - maybe this year though....
I put my sidewinder on the 58, as you know, but was suprised to hear it wasn't much quieter - the induction noise is still the loudest part of my car 😀
I've not had mine on the dyno - maybe this year though....
Baja Wes ·
Nearly as much RWHP as my stock $1500 2.5L 100,000km+ jap motor, pretty good going for an almost 2L VW motor.
Just a question, where did the operator have the intake air temp sensor? It was reading less than the ambient temperature which is quite odd. Usually it is the other way around. A lower than actual intake temp reading will actually give you a lower HP reading as it doesn't fully correct for the actual (higher) air temperature.
Just a question, where did the operator have the intake air temp sensor? It was reading less than the ambient temperature which is quite odd. Usually it is the other way around. A lower than actual intake temp reading will actually give you a lower HP reading as it doesn't fully correct for the actual (higher) air temperature.
MickH ·
Hmm....here we go again...I've just "cleaned" up this post. If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute then shut up. Great numbers Craig👍
hellbugged ·
damn, been waiting so patiently for the resullts Craig.....is it just a carb change or others too?Craig Torrens wrote:I had to work yesterday so unfortunately i didnt make the dyno.............will keep you informed.
The_Bronze. ·
he he - Forum hasn't changed much.
Well done Craig. Great figures. Looking forward to reading how you get to 145. The IDA might just be that missing piece. Hope you can make the 23rd.
I recently rode in a Pobjoy 1916 powered type I. The chap that owns it was having lots of fuel pressure problems. Surging coughing and dying in the slightest change of slope. Anyhow with that sorted I was amazed with the torque and rev range it produced seemingly effortlessly. When I thought we were doing 60 the speedo was saying 100 (kph) and when i thought we were doing 100 the speedo was reading 160 (kph). It was an amazing afternoon.
Thanks for posting Craig.
B.
Well done Craig. Great figures. Looking forward to reading how you get to 145. The IDA might just be that missing piece. Hope you can make the 23rd.
I recently rode in a Pobjoy 1916 powered type I. The chap that owns it was having lots of fuel pressure problems. Surging coughing and dying in the slightest change of slope. Anyhow with that sorted I was amazed with the torque and rev range it produced seemingly effortlessly. When I thought we were doing 60 the speedo was saying 100 (kph) and when i thought we were doing 100 the speedo was reading 160 (kph). It was an amazing afternoon.
Thanks for posting Craig.
B.
Euro_67 ·
Any more on this, or photos of the twin plug heads ?
What is required to run the twin plug heads ?
Can you only modify eliminator heads for twin plugs ?
What is required to run the twin plug heads ?
Can you only modify eliminator heads for twin plugs ?
Gracey ·
Looks awesome Craig, can't wait to see the results!!
PAZZAN ·
nice hp but what gear ratio are u running in 4th gear... some 4 gears are like a 3rd on circuit cars ..makes a big difference on dynos,,😂
reub ·
All about dyno results after all hey??
hellbugged ·
got one that shows rpm rather than speed?
Certainly looks to be a wide spread
Certainly looks to be a wide spread
Bizarre ·
Did you change heads Craig??
colonel mustard ·
so craig...... where can we find some decent pics of your cars, or are you all for giving nothing away???
reub ·
😉 All good Craig. Not having a dig at you....as you know.Craig Torrens wrote:yep it is now, and why not ??reub-revhead wrote:All about dyno results after all hey??
10 years of winning in hillclimbs as well mate,so I dont think you can call me a dyno queen yet !!! 😎
All I can say is its great to see 👍
PAZZAN ·
thats better I like to see speed & rpms 😵💫
colonel mustard ·
Thanks!!! 🙂
thats really sweet. I can only dream now... haha. One day 🙂
thats really sweet. I can only dream now... haha. One day 🙂
BeetleJuice ·
Nice
PAZZAN ·
not as pretty as yours🥲
colonel mustard ·
Ewwwww. this is not the place for such disgusting pictures.... :P
sander288 ·
somebody left their pizza box from MIVEC on your engine...
BeetleJuice ·
sander288 wrote:somebody left their pizza box from MIVEC on your engine...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
colonel mustard ·
Hang on.... hold up... thats no rag top, nor evo.... So thats running a 1916 .... putting a sidewinder on this one now? What year is that.... the rear valance is unfamiliar...? :S
Also, that exhaust is better than my empi one, the pipe gets so small at the flange... 🙁
Also, that exhaust is better than my empi one, the pipe gets so small at the flange... 🙁
rose ·
Hey Craig what's the compression ratio in the 138hp bug
colonel mustard ·
vw54 ·
go the stinger so you can wake the neighbours
colonel mustard ·
New one looks like heaps better quality. might give you a few extra HP with the right muffler..... 🙂 Looks sweeeet. - how much further does the flange sit out than the old exhaust Craig? Love the car by the way, looks awesome.
BeetleJuice ·
I like your number plate.!😎
polak ·
nice.... is that mild steel with ceramic coating or stainless? looks too milky to be stainless, but its got some funny reflections in it and its hard to tell
trickysimon ·
And is the old 1 stainless? If so, it hasn't aged well lol
colonel mustard ·
Don't I know it... the cops made mine stick out further due to her very poor driving skills. The new exhaust doesn't stick out as far.... just have to take it out from under my bed and spend a few hundred bucks at the panel beater. yay.. 🙁Craig Torrens wrote:sticks out a tad further......which is good and bad. Good= you can get to the bolts easier Bad= It will mean that the muffler will stick out further, and probably more likely to be "cop bait" !! 😂
trickysimon ·
Damn 🤪
Looks like I'll have to get Polak around every weekend to polish it 😂
Looks like I'll have to get Polak around every weekend to polish it 😂
ian.mezz ·
no polishing to do here🤪😂🤪
colonel mustard ·
Bolted together from left overs Ian??? Love it. 🙂
trickysimon ·
Hope you've had your tetnus shot 😉
rose ·
Don't need tetnus shot I'm immuned.
It doesn't matter Buz & I are going to have heaps of fun at Warwick.
Hey Craig which car are you bringing to Warwick to show us how they go???
It doesn't matter Buz & I are going to have heaps of fun at Warwick.
Hey Craig which car are you bringing to Warwick to show us how they go???
reub ·
...mine did...Craig Torrens wrote:That's how your sidewinder will look after a while as they come from the same factory in China ! 😂trickysimon wrote:And is the old 1 stainless? If so, it hasn't aged well lol
76bug ·
hey ian i think there is quiet a big difference between your 20 old steriod engine compared to current spec steriod engines
sander288 ·
ought to get out to WSID to show them what you can do, should be good for the 12's according to stan
ian.mezz ·
I am pretty sure that stan makes all his motors the same.76bug wrote:hey ian i think there is quiet a big difference between your 20 old steriod engine compared to current spec steriod engines
ian.mezz ·
Stan told us he makes them the same way, thats why they are so reliable , as there was no need to change a good thing.Craig Torrens wrote:Nup, the steriods from 20years ago (even 10yrs ago) is different to what Stan produces now.ian.mezz wrote:I am pretty sure that stan makes all his motors the same.76bug wrote:hey ian i think there is quiet a big difference between your 20 old steriod engine compared to current spec steriod engines
cnfabo ·
what heads and comp does he use for a steroids engine craig... dony say you dony know either... last time i talked to him he told me he used cb,s round port heads..
JVLRacing ·
😂popcorn
JVLRacing ·
😘😘thats not nice....i will tell you misses your pickin on me😘
JVLRacing ·
I know you evo driver😂
pete wood ·
harsh but fair 😂Craig Torrens wrote:yes you are always sitting on the sideline JVL........just never in the action (on or off the track!!) 😁😁
JVLRacing ·
😎pete wood wrote:harsh but fair 😂Craig Torrens wrote:yes you are always sitting on the sideline JVL........just never in the action (on or off the track!!) 😁😁
ian.mezz ·
well Craig what sort of times are you doing??????????????????????????????????
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Is it quicker on the run to the dyno shop or quicker on the run home
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Is it quicker on the run to the dyno shop or quicker on the run home
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spdterence ·
Craig - maaaaate. What a magnificent 1916 in your rag top.
What a great spread of power and revs it freckle off. Can't say I have ever experienced a motor like that before.
Driveable, torque from the get go. Short shift it or wring it's neck -
I just have to remove mine and get it to Stan.
Stan is the man! 😁
What a great spread of power and revs it freckle off. Can't say I have ever experienced a motor like that before.
Driveable, torque from the get go. Short shift it or wring it's neck -
I just have to remove mine and get it to Stan.
Stan is the man! 😁
spdterence ·
Feed it a pidgeon. That makes em go like stink! 🙅
Brian ·
hp readings in SAE or DIN or SAE corrected ???
whats the norm ?
i notice most US sites quote SAE
whats the norm ?
i notice most US sites quote SAE
colonel mustard ·
updates on the monster?? 🙂
Sides ·
I'm curious Craig if you got anywhere with the "step" header ???
matberry ·
Cmon Craig....pics please 🙂
Gracey ·
Hey Craig, looking forward to seeing the results.
Would you be able to measure the length of the primary pipes of the step headers for me?
Would you be able to measure the length of the primary pipes of the step headers for me?
reub ·
🙂
ian.mezz ·
arhhhhh 6 months to get to the track😂, about time😊 and not a bad time😂
Is it the start of something
will we see you out and about more???
Compak Attak nsw 28 March
Is it the start of something
will we see you out and about more???
Compak Attak nsw 28 March
FROSTY ·
holy shit...... that sounds unreal......nice work craig
matberry ·
Must be that new secret exhaust 😂😂
Sounds great😀
Sounds great😀
Turbo54 ·
Nice work and times - Is this twin spark?
T54
T54
vassy66T1 ·
Good work. 👍
Some start line traction will see low 13's surely.
Some start line traction will see low 13's surely.
ian.mezz ·
I don't know if that second hand gear box you sold me would take it???😂
Plus my bug is just a car not a race car.
I'm not a racer I'm a team owner as Rose likes racing them not me.😂
We go to heaps of vw events so it's hard to fit them all in.
Plus my bug is just a car not a race car.
I'm not a racer I'm a team owner as Rose likes racing them not me.😂
We go to heaps of vw events so it's hard to fit them all in.
Craig Torrens wrote:Yep its twin plugged.
And Matt I'm back to the 1 5/8th A1 system..........it seems to be the best "all rounder".
So Ian, are you actually going to come to WSID and run a proper 1/4mile or is your little subi only capable of 1/8th mile closed country runways ???? 😂😂
sander288 ·
Nice work craig! good to see the beast back on a track!!
actually beginning to re-think my 1600 thread... 😎
actually beginning to re-think my 1600 thread... 😎
ian.mezz ·
That blue slip was years ago people change stuff all the time.🤪
cause yours is a race car, look at that monster tacho and that big shift light😂
We go to Portland, Warwick, vw supersprints, Gunnedah several times and rose uses four of our cars.
all the racers ask her where her Tacho is and they look at her funny when she says she don't have one😂 she changers gear when she needs to😂😂😂
cause yours is a race car, look at that monster tacho and that big shift light😂
We go to Portland, Warwick, vw supersprints, Gunnedah several times and rose uses four of our cars.
all the racers ask her where her Tacho is and they look at her funny when she says she don't have one😂 she changers gear when she needs to😂😂😂
ian.mezz ·
Craig don't get me wrong me just trying to be funny I am very happy to see you out in your car.
ian.mezz ·
that would be goood because her 60ft times are 2.096
2.017, 2.112
2.017, 2.112
hellbugged ·
what gearbox is it now Craig..........still the hillclimb one or changed ratios since?
is that rear bumper at a funky angle?........"through the traps" stability control device? 😁 😂🤓
is that rear bumper at a funky angle?........"through the traps" stability control device? 😁 😂🤓
hellbugged ·
thanx
Ratios didnt look too far off
Thought the bumper may have been secret down force additive from track days lol
Ratios didnt look too far off
Thought the bumper may have been secret down force additive from track days lol
1303Steve ·
Hi Craig
Looks & sounds the goods. Are you going to bring it down to Wakefield in May?
Steve
Looks & sounds the goods. Are you going to bring it down to Wakefield in May?
Steve
1303Steve ·
I'm sure the guys in the nursing home could get their Viagra somewhere else that day 😂
colonel mustard ·
but your bringing the ragtop on sunday Craig?
1303Steve ·
Stops me rolling out of bed😂