Quite clean 1968 bug, still the 67 look alike. Large headlights and small tail/blinker lights. Chrome bumpers with the pipes. Registered til december this year. Good working engine. Paint needs a buff. Minimum rust.
All complete. All the white interior plastics and chrome all around.
What do you think? Rough estimates ok.
Kuch
squizy ·
Is this an advertisement for the car or are you asking people what a particular car might be worth?
If it's an advertisement for a car, please refer to the buying and selling rules.
If you're asking what value your car may be worth, between $1 and $3000.
Kuchster ·
No no im asking what the car is worth as im looking at buying it.
If i was selling a car i would have written car for sale.
Thanks
Kuch
squizy ·
Lol good one.
In that case, I reckon between $1500 and $3000.
68AutoBug ·
Hi
Give Us the engine and chassis number
I have seen at the nationals years ago
a white beetle that was a 1968 model
but looked like a 1967 model...
it was a one owner and was bought at a Sydney VW dealer in 1968..
it had been imported from Germany
and offloaded in Sydney...
there was a story attached...
the actual 1967 model beetle was the largest selling beetle in the USA.. it had round push button door handles
amongst other things that made it a one year only beetle
if its one of those its rare in Australia...
I look at any car that I was going to buy
how much it is going to cost to replace all the worn parts..
so if its a low mileage car its worth a bit - to purists
if its as good as you say.. roadworthy and good condition
$1000- $2000- $3000- ??
but realistically $1000 to $2000
unregistered drops the price to $500 to $1000 -
take off money for any problems...
best of luck
LEE
PS: I hope their aren't reading this... lol
Kuchster ·
Its a 11805----
So its a rather early one.
Its a F engine number too.
Its not the one your thinking of, and if i remember correctly its got the door opening button under the handle, not a push button.
Its definately not a $500 bug. I dont see any cheap $500 bugs in any sort of good condition. Those sort of cars go to sims..
Kuch
68AutoBug ·
A 1968 MODEL beetle was made from 1st AUGUST 1967 to 31st JULY 1968 inclusive...
This is the Volkswagen Model year...
so, if Your beetle was made in July 1967 its a 1967 model
if it was made after the 1st August 1967 its a 1968 MODEL beetle...
LEE
Kuchster ·
Did they still use the big headlights and small taillights? As far as i understand this stopped at the end of 67. From a catalogue, all the 68 model stuff is different, similiar to my 1970 bug.
What your saying there is that it should be the same as a 67 until july 1968.
And thats what this bug is, looks like a 67 model, and not a so called 68 model with all the different items like my 1970.
Kuch
Kuchster ·
Just looked at the pics of your beetle on the website, and yours looks like my 1970. Whereas this one im looking at looks like a 1967...
Whats goin on here??
Kuch
68AutoBug ·
VW started all the changes in 1965
Large glass - from Germany sold worldwide
1966 flat hubcaps disc brakes beetles sold in UK
1967 beetle in the US had vertical headlamps and towel rail bumpers..
1st of August 1967 = 1968 VW YEAR MODEL = 12 volts
new tail lamps vertical headlamps
no beetles sold in the us had disc brakes...
All Beetles made in Australia until mid 1968 were the older models like a 1964-65-66-67
there were some beetles fully imported in early 1968..
so they could look like the old model beetle..??
the early model looking beetle was sold in Germany for many years, it was a big seller in Germany..
if it was fully made in Australia it could also be the early model.. maybe one of the last..??
if its an aussie made beetle with a 1968 model chassis number it could also be rare..
1968 was a mixed up year for VW in Australia..
VW AUstraliasia had stopped making beetles
and was being taken over..
Assembly of beetles began in late 1968
You also need to check whether the beetle was made inn Western Germany or Australlia..
cheers
LEE
Very Confusing I know.... LOL
Kuchster ·
Will go for another look and some pics.
Joel ·
if its a 68 which it is from the chassis # and it has the old smoothy bumpers, upright 12volt headlights and the oval shaped 60s taillights then its an imported 1200 euro bug if there all original parts
ive seen a few of these around oz
but it may just be a mish mash of parts that someone has thrown togther to
pod ·
Kuchster wrote:I dont see any cheap $500 bugs in any sort of good condition. Those sort of cars go to sims..
Kuch
my bug im making into a baja cost $500 ,it maybe that people are over-pricing what they want to sell❓❓
its not black is it as one was converted on here to have all the early guards and stuff on the later body by Ron(wacked1)
Kuchster ·
Nah its a green and cream colour
dangerous ·
I would pay good money for that car if it is a large window early lights car.
3g would be sight unseen,but 5g plus for a good clean car...sky is the limit if rust free.
Matt Ryan ·
Could be an Aussie Custom model, they were still being made in late '68.
"Deluxe" model Aussie beetle was discontinued in March 1968, replaced by fully imported German made (big windows, upright lights) which were sold alongside "Custom" model Aussie beetles (smaller windows, sloping headlights) until September 1968.
Assembly of CKD kits from Germany (big windows, upright lights) began in August 1968, by September they had assembled enough stock, so that is when full imports & Aussie Customs stopped.
Regards,
Matt.
Joel ·
was it like these robert?
with the early model bumpers, horn grilles and taillights but late everything else?
those are euro 1200s but ive only seen a couple of them in oz, a mate has one rotting away in his back yard
but by the sounds of it, its just a carryover 67 model
Kuchster ·
No no slanty headlights still.
Sent you a PM
Kuch
Joel ·
very hard to tell if its aussie assembled car but i think it looks like a UK import
that interiors an odd one altho it may be redone, never seen one like it
but yes its very similar to euro 1200 standards
but its certainly worth saving
without knowing its running condition id say anywhere from $1500-2500
engines very oily
HTH
-Joel
matberry ·
I had a '69 model standard, with upright hlights and early bumpers, horn grills etc. Also 6volt system with 12volt diameter gen and starter, headliner only in the center roof section, no glove box door, res fuel tap and no chrome on body or windows, and 1200 cc. Looked much like those above.
Kuchster ·
Its a great running condition bug. Good engine and gearbox
Kuchster ·
StenGuns ·
Didn't VW Aus get rid of a bunch of cars in 68/9 that were assembled from remnants.. They had very little trim and were very basic.. eg.. no pillar trim, no glove box lid, nuts and bolts interior.. They were called a VW Standard or a VW Custom... Just a thought
Kuchster ·
11850---- chassis number
This thing is complete. And has a glovebox lid.
Kuch
kroozzn63 ·
hey rob where are the front indicators? could be rare or bitza resto early front guards or blinkers should be on new style bumper?
kroozzn63 ·
AHHH blinkers in the front light job, might be a bitza resto or at least buy it like it is .lol
Kuchster ·
Blinkers inside the headlight.
Kuchster ·
Do the earlier guards bumpers etc fit on later model bugs?
How can you tell what year the actual body is?
Euro_67 ·
I have the '67 one year only import and can confirm some things.
External door Handles definitely have round push button, and only drivers side has key hole.
The internal lock control is the later style push / pull in the window frame to rear of door.
recess behind handle on exterior of door is smaller than 1500 beetle.
engine cover similar, to 1500 beetle from '68 and on, but more defined shape. The rear apron is different, and the cover latch has a really nice looking plate with recess to lock onto, rather than the bent metal tang welded onto the 1500 beetle apron.
Larger windows all around like 1500 beetle.
Disk brake B/J front end, although single circuit brakes, with square reservoir mounted on ledge behind spare wheel.
Mine has early head lights and I once read they were made with both early and late, relative to the surplus parts leftover from the '66 and earlier year model VW was running out.
I can post some pics of the differences tomorrow if it helps.
Wayne.
Kuchster ·
So it could be some sort of a rare model like yours?
What about the bumpers?
68AutoBug ·
it has a late model engine lid???
the rare 1967 model beetle in USA had late headlamps
and towel rail bumpers and horn grills..
the European 67 beetle had sloping early headlamps... etc
the standard beetle was a cheap model..
painted bumpers and hubcaps - no interior light or glove box lid .. early ones had a painted stripe instead of chrome side strips... painted 1/4 windows..
the Custon 1300 beetle had stainless steel blade bumpers without overriders..
still no glovebox lid and hoodling only in the centre part of the roof...
LEE
68AutoBug ·
matberry wrote:I had a '69 model standard, with upright hlights and early bumpers, horn grills etc. Also 6volt system with 12volt diameter gen and starter, headliner only in the center roof section, no glove box door, res fuel tap and no chrome on body or windows, and 1200 cc. Looked much like those above.
that would have been a very rare [in Aust] German made 1200 that was sold in Europe..
because of fuel costs the 1200 was available for many years in europe
LEE
68AutoBug ·
StenGuns wrote:Didn't VW Aus get rid of a bunch of cars in 68/9 that were assembled from remnants.. They had very little trim and were very basic.. eg.. no pillar trim, no glove box lid, nuts and bolts interior.. They were called a VW Standard or a VW Custom... Just a thought
they were made cheap to sell cheaper than the deluxe model... standard was 1200cc
Custom was 1300cc engine bare bones model..
the metal parts for the trim over the doors wasn't on the body or the pillar trim - they were made especially that way...
so Robert, that looks like its an odd beetle and worth keeping... have a look under the bonnet to see where it was made..
Lee
Kuchster ·
This still has a 1968 chassis number so we still have a problem comparing it to a 67! From what i've been told, the front end and bumpers have been changed to early model parts.
Kuchster ·
I cant see any compliance plate or "made in whatever country". Where would i find it ?
68AutoBug ·
apart from the bumpers and bonnet and guards and dash
it looks like 1968 model body..
Late model doors - large glass -
flat hubcaps and 4 stud wheels..
I've never actually seen anyone go to the trouble of fitting the towel rail Extra round support pieces..
usually they just add late bumpers without the black round support pieces...
there should be a Made in Western Germany on the aluminium plate behind the front spare wheel...
or made in Australia - in which case someone has made it up from pieces of different models...
a set of New sloping headlamps and it would look great..
I didn't see any pics of inside the car
LEE
68AutoBug ·
Well Robert
this is one beetle made in Germany in 1968 that had a 1300 engine series F
but the engine in it seems to be from a 1966 beetle..
1300 F series...
Body has large glass - larger than the Aussie 67 beetle...
Late model doors... late gear lever and knob -early dash with 3 plastic demister vents ?? German Glass -
wide early chrome strips.. early bonnet, lock & handle.
early speedo -
will probably have 4 stud wheels with drum brakes all round.. and maybe balljoint front end??
or it could still have link pin front end..
this would have been a 1300 beetle from maybe the UK
seeing its RHD....
But its one rare beetle....
a bit of a clean up and polish, the wheels should be black & white.. and replace the heater hoses..
Lee
PS: and a new pair of headlight chromed rings..
or new headlamps..
Notch65s ·
please post more pics of the car ... ?
68AutoBug ·
the compliance plate was originally on the drivers side of the black middle inspection plate behind the spare wheel
You can see the two holes for the rivets that held it on
it would have good to get the ident plate
but the chassis number is good enough...
cheers
LEE
Kuchster ·
Nothing rare about it.
Its a 1968 pan and body, with a 1962 front end welded on.
I love panel beaters who use silicon and bog instead of welding to patch up the petrol filler.
After seeing the pics it's pretty evident that this car has had lots of work done over the years, Upholstery for starters + two tone steering wheel to match paint job (bet that was expensive), front blinker holes filled, head lights fitted with indicators, chrome?? looking blinker switch, window rubbers etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's had an early Aussie front (bonnet release cable on drivers side) grafted on to a '68 body. Might have even been done as a cheap way to repair accident damage, back in the day there would not have been much second hand stuff post '68, until they had been around for a few years.
Regards,
Matt.
Kuchster ·
Check post above mate!
Was an accident damage, and the repairer welded a 1962 front end onto a 1968 body.
Its not a bad car, needs some work.
Kuch
68AutoBug ·
Kuchster wrote:Nothing rare about it.
Its a 1968 pan and body, with a 1962 front end welded on.
I love panel beaters who use silicon and bog instead of welding to patch up the petrol filler.