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Engineering cert required for cut and turned beams?

https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/69865/engineering-cert-required-for-cut-and-turned-beams

bajachris88 ·

Considering cuting and turning, cause i will be pulling the front beam apart to replace the bushes, likewise for the rear of my pan.

However, by doing so, do i need engineering certs for modding the original engineers suspension intentions?

VWCOOL ·

Technically, yes, due to the welding, but just don't tell anyone...!

phatratpat ·

shhhhhh! its a secret !!!😁

11CAB ·

I think you'll find that its illegal to weld steering & suspension components in QLD....having said that, most people wouldnt know its not original

bajachris88 ·

thanks guys, will rebush the thing but won't reweld it...

Then after compliancing and registering, i might consider. I am not sure about adjusters though, cause the ones i have seen have been particularly designed for street and not an offroad beating....

but your right, how is anyone going to know afterwards.

Thankyou fellas!👍

Bizarre ·

I believe the "illegality" lies in cutting through the beam

Depending on the engineer it may be ok if the cut/weld is braced with plates welded over the cut

Brad ·

your in qld you can do it.

A beam is not a suspension component by definition so it is not an issue.

If anyone tells you anything else ask them for a reference, they will not have one.

Facts finished now back to comments and suggestions

bajachris88 ·

Cheers mate. Yea u would think the engineer would feel more comfortable. I wouldn't trust my welding that much to go any other way in all honesty.

Jeff Hibbard's book doesn't explain about brace plating, but another link i found said it was a pretty wise idea (some pretty good, more detailed instructions of how to do it).
I think i will get myself out of alot of trouble if i do it after i get it regoed anyways...

I just can't stand the stance of a stock height baja. No offence to anyone, but its ugly. I'm keen to unleash the beast look 'so to speak', + my front end is fairly soft.

I have been looking hard into it, and i will just seam weld the beam for the time being.
Later on i will turn it, and sort out some rebound stops for the ball joint beam.

I don't want it to necessarily be a beast, but i got some competition from work, particularly from this dual cab hilux owner who has been baggin the baja name since i worked there.... i'll show him!

bajachris88 ·

Buggy Brad wrote:your in qld you can do it.

A beam is not a suspension component by definition so it is not an issue.

If anyone tells you anything else ask them for a reference, they will not have one.

Facts finished now back to comments and suggestions
YOU BEAUTY!👍

Thanks for clarifying that Brad, thats excellent! Full steam ahead i say. Bloody sweet

Thats the best thing i have heard all week, rest of it has been a blood bath.

xornge666x ·

still only legal if engineered though, correct??
you can cut and weld, but the welding must be approved, therefore tested to be legal.

This may not be the case in Qld, it is in Vic.
I would hope its not legal to drive on a beam buzzed back together with some handymans gasless mig!

Brad ·

xornge666x wrote:still only legal if engineered though, correct??
you can cut and weld, but the welding must be approved, therefore tested to be legal.

This may not be the case in Qld, it is in Vic.
I would hope its not legal to drive on a beam buzzed back together with some handymans gasless mig!
Instead of justifying the law to yet another person I will just say.. when you buy brake pads do you get them engineered after you have fitted them ?

There is a certain amount of common sense which needs to be used.

Engineering as people say is a very loose term.

Does a set of front adjusters need to be approved in QLD, no. Could you fit them with a dodgy welder .. yep .. you could also use super glue to hold your wheels on but you would be an idiot to do it ......

lexm ·

Buggy Brad wrote:you could also use super glue to hold your wheels on but you would be an idiot to do it ......
Yeah, You'd have to carry acetone to change a flat. That's dangerous stuff😂

Ampdub ·

correct me if im wrong but i was told once that 1 inch of good welding is equal to 1 ton of breaking strain. so done right should be no prob