Why the F@*% are people sending VW's overseas. I don't usually concern myself with other peoples business, but today I just found out a shop I (used) to deal with in Melb has been buying VW's and sending them overseas just to make a buck.
Personally, I think this is morally wrong, as the more that go OS the less chance my kids or grandkids will see a VW driving on the road.
I run a VW/Porsche resto business and,yes, I have bought and sold a few VW's.
Every one of them I have done substantial repairs to, to ensure they will never see the graveyard, turned down offers from overseas buyers and created cars that have drawn people into the scene.
I am sick of workshops and people buying cars, doing nothing to them and either selling them overseas or for ridiculously escalated prices. This just makes it unaffordable for every day people to get into the scene.
I personally will not support these money hungry people/shops and hope others will follow.
Make your money on the share market, and leave our cars alone!
silver ·
Big Deal If I had the contacts i'd sell them, after all money can buy happiness
I think you are jealous and maybe if you work hard you can bring one back if you ever travel over the Yarra pull your head out of your bum and realize that there is more to life than aussie volkswagens if your kids need to see one go to any university there are about 15 in the carpark
Notch Nut ·
I am in agreeance with Fuch. I've been hoarding parts for my type 3 for the better part of 15 years now. I am not interested in paying over the top prices just cos some dipwit wants to make a quick easy buck to some poms out of my hobby and passion.
There may be more to life than aussie volkswagens....maybe so...... Just don't rip me off when it comes to buying parts etc cos I don't have UK pounds when I buy in Australia!!😬👍
greedy53 ·
well a fisty lot i have seen many a vw for sale on this site and with no takers as much as i dislike the idea of vw's going overseas i can under stand it
and lets not forget that there are enough vw still in this great country to satisfie all our needs for many more years
steve
glider69 ·
Good luck to them,they didnt even do any work to them and they made more money than you!!! my kids will be driving split kombis,oval beetles,kg's and i have enough stashed away so my grandkids will be doing the same!! and with the surplus of my stash i am waiting for that pommy to come back to Australia so he can offer me more cash than last year..
MickH ·
At least when they go O/S it's to people who keep them on the road! How many do you see or know of here that people just aren't interested in and they lay rusting away???? You have the choice of selling them to people or sending them to Sims metal. Once they are crushed they are gone for good....if they go overseas,then good luck to them..
squizy ·
So because they're trying to make a buck you have an issue? Sure it's annoying, however how many times have things been offered in Aus and no one has bought it? Plenty.
Hands up all of those who HAVEN'T looked on The Samba, US Ebay, or any other US website and thought "hmmm, the Aussie dollar is looking good at the moment....wouldn't it be great to bring that car in from the US...."
I think the answers to that may bring a bit more perspective to this.
megalania ·
Both sides of this argument have pro's and con's, however Silver I think the reply was a little harsh.
GTMac ·
Agree, comments a bit on the harsh side. Forum not Fight Club. Everyone has point of view on this. Im not interested in selling OS, but quite happy to buy one and bring it in as I know it will be restored and looked after by me until the day I decide to sell it. And then when I do make profit, thats my good fortune.
type3kid ·
i agree, both have pro's and con's.
i guess it's just a personal opinion.
me, i don't mind sending cars overseas. there's good money to be made and it means that it's one less rusting away.
silver ·
Gee that was polite for me !
I have an intolerance for small minded comments
Like some people who are upset that they have to pay high rents (I think they should be higher)
if they don't like it buy there own house
If I was selling petrol bike sales would go through the roof
same goes with VW's you want to keep them here stand at the docks with handfuls of money
pete wood ·
send em off I say. for every one sent someone digs up another 4 a week later. And I agree with Mick. There have been literally hundreds of VWs listed on this site that never sold and probably ended up at the tip. anything sent overseas is treated like it came from king tut's tomb. Imagine bringing in an old corvette or porsche from OS and the lengths you'd go to in order to keep it on the road. Vw fanatics in the UK will do the same to a BAY WINDOW kombi. Over here, people are mostly only interested in them for their engines (type4s for the german look crowd) and gearboxes (for the offroad crowd). if you don't want them to go OS them buy them.
GTMac ·
Speaking of good aussie stuff going OS. Dont think anyone would pay this price for it here and interesting to know what it cost him total to get it to the US.
[url=http://]http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=621620[/url]
Joel ·
i can see both sides of the story to
its just the way some ppl go about it that piss me off
heres the biggest f**kwit responsible for it
he is ripping off ppl blind
he was in town here a few weeks ago
and approached one of my mates who has a few VWs well lets just say he left empty handed with an enhanced aussie vocabulary
just lucky i wasnt there cos i really woulda said my piece as well
ppl doing what glider69 is piss me off abit
not u in particular glider but for eg. theres an old coot in town here with 6 bugs under his house, most of them are ovals
there all done up for his grandkids
cept his grandkids have their licsenses now and just arent interested in the cars and want newer cars with creature comforts
so all the bugs are going to waste sitting under his shitty old house which is likely to collapse on them cos hes to stingy to sell them
alot of vultures circling waiting for him to cark it then the grandkids can pass them on
i know i cant really talk given the collection i had but ive since worked out that im not gonna get to them all and they have been going to enthuisists who are gonna finish them off
1500S ·
Just saw this one on Thesamba. Good sale prices if they can get it when they are then sold on by the Septic Tanks when they get them!! And that's for the old standard trim OZ built "S"! But then again, is it an S as all the trim is from the 1964 N excluding the bumper overriders which didn't belong to that model.
Do I remember this car somewhere around Westmead some 12 years back as well as seeing it for sale at one of the shows way back at Yennora similar years.
DH
LUFTMEISTER ·
Cannot see the problem. The market will decide. You ain't payin' you ain't playing! simple really. You want something, pay the price and off you go. Whinging and cursing will not get you behind the wheel. The aussie dollar going up will make our VW's less attractive to o/s buyers now anyway.(they will keep cleaning out South Africa - you should hear them bitch! 😬)
Yogie ·
It is the law of supply and demand. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it at the time. If that person happens to be from overseas, then it goes overseas. I myself have bought a car that came in from the states. I converted it to right hand drive and restored it because that is what I wanted but couldn't get here. Why should I then deny others overseas from having the same opportunity. Even with the price the poms would pay for it, I would still not get back what I spent restoring it but it would at least be closer than anyone would pay here.
Many times I have seen cars just sit on here that should be snapped up but people just do not want to pay the money for them. What is the owner then supposed to do? If I had to sell any of my cars, my biggest concern is that it goes to someone that will use it with respect. The more it sells for, I believe, the more likely it is to be looked after.
My 2c worth.
Yogie
BUGBOY ·
None on my local yards get any vw anymore, I asked them why and they said that they are all brought but the same person every time at the auctions.
This person was sending out 30 to 40 cars a month.
They stopped for about 6-8 months as their customers didn't want anymore.
I managed to grab some parts from them at this point.
They are now buying and shipping again and also selling kombis to another business here in Melbourne.
This other factory are shipping out a large number of cars per month as well.
The problem I see is with high prices for scrap metal and cars being shipped out the parts are going to run out really quick.
Brad ·
man I tried to give mine away and no one wanted them, send them anywhere you can to keep the alive.
If you are so concerned about it why didn't you take all mine ?
MISS VDUB ·
MickH wrote:At least when they go O/S it's to people who keep them on the road! How many do you see or know of here that people just aren't interested in and they lay rusting away???? You have the choice of selling them to people or sending them to Sims metal. Once they are crushed they are gone for good....if they go overseas,then good luck to them..
AMEN!
Craig Torrens ·
people don't want them to go OS...............but its alright to cut them up and shove a subaru donk in the back 😏...go figure !!
Anyone want to go halves in a container to England ????? 😁
JVLRacing ·
Craig Torrens wrote:people don't want them to go OS...............but its alright to shove a subaru donk in the back 😏...go figure !!
Anyone want to go halves in a container to England ????? 😁
oh dear....gates have open😊
1303Steve ·
Craig Torrens wrote:Anyone want to go halves in a container to England ????? 😁
And how are you going to get back again Craig? Swim?
Euro_67 ·
I could not sell my Notch locally. The only interest came from 2 OS buyers. Reluctant as I was, it went abroad as that is where the buyer was.
What I think is far worse, is the local hoarders, who hold out for big money, and ultimately the cars and parts simply rot away beyond resurrection. Far better to see the cars on the road in my opinion.
silver ·
I already have o/s buyers for my container van should i decide to sell it as no-one here will offer me 60k
Craig Torrens ·
1303Steve wrote:And how are you going to get back again Craig? Swim?
Fly 1st class with all the extra $$ made from selling O/S.........hehehehehe
GTMac ·
Craig Torrens wrote:people don't want them to go OS...............but its alright to cut them up and shove a subaru donk in the back 😏...go figure !!
Anyone want to go halves in a container to England ????? 😁
You are so right Craig, cant wait to put in my $10k plus aircooled motor back into my Fasty which still wont be as reliable and have as much power........go figure!! 😘
Back on the subject...............if its going to rust away and someone anywhere in the world wants it to restore then send them away. If your keen on keeping your beloved VW long term then you should already have a shed full of spares.
Craig Torrens ·
fish are biting 😂
GTMac ·
Craig Torrens wrote:fish are biting 😂
Whats your bait?
byronbus ·
DUB74L wrote:ppl doing what glider69 is piss me off abit
not u in particular glider but for eg. theres an old coot in town here with 6 bugs under his house, most of them are ovals
there all done up for his grandkids
cept his grandkids have their licsenses now and just arent interested in the cars and want newer cars with creature comforts
so all the bugs are going to waste sitting under his shitty old house which is likely to collapse on them cos hes to stingy to sell them
alot of vultures circling waiting for him to cark it then the grandkids can pass them on
I was just showing one of his granddaughters this comment, and she doesnt intend selling to just anyone... Ill ask jim what he thinks...
He's a great guy, love talking about the war, and the early days in Lismore...
He loves his VWs, not enough of these old gentleman around...
vwjon ·
silver wrote:I have an intolerance for small minded comments
Like some people who are upset that they have to pay high rents (I think they should be higher)
if they don't like it buy there own house
i think you've made a small minded comment, the price of house rentals is way too high, i'd love to buy my own house and not throw cash at my landlord but your stupid government won't allow me!!!
my syncro van is forsale, $20K its mechanically perfect, i've got a couple of bites from the uk, why am i selling??? i need to bring another syncro from the uk!! go figure that!!!
JVLRacing ·
Craig Torrens wrote:fish are biting 😂
you are bored🤓
silver ·
vwjon wrote:
silver wrote:I have an intolerance for small minded comments
Like some people who are upset that they have to pay high rents (I think they should be higher)
if they don't like it buy there own house
i think you've made a small minded comment, the price of house rentals is way too high, i'd love to buy my own house and not throw cash at my landlord but your stupid government won't allow me!!!
my syncro van is forsale, $20K its mechanically perfect, i've got a couple of bites from the uk, why am i selling??? i need to bring another syncro from the uk!! go figure that!!!
How that small minded!!!! The rentals are not high enough for me and all the other slum lords, and as for the government I didn't vote for them they are not mine My ideal govt would stop welfare and terminate the pregnancys of the unemployed and let me increase rents above 15% at a time
We all have an equal chance some of us work hard and some don't
If you can't swim don't go in the deep end
1303Steve ·
Craig Torrens wrote:people don't want them to go OS...............but its alright to cut them up and shove a subaru donk in the back 😏...go figure !!
So Craig, who made you "what is OK to do to your VW police"?
Some dyed in the wool VW people would think its sacrilege to modify a VW like you have done to race it, I can see a fine in mail to you in the near future for selling Kafer Cup bars, fitting these only encourage racing, I'll get my tongue out of cheek now.😂
vwjon ·
We all have an equal chance some of us work hard and some don't
If you can't swim don't go in the deep end
silver when you actually know what you are talking about please feel free to comment, untill you have factual information, please shut up!
i would love to work as hard as anybody else on this site, but again YOUR government restricts me, i'm not allowed to work extra over time, because i have a minimum wage my boss is very happy to pay that and no more!
I am not allowed a second job, etc etc, the joys of being a foreign worker you see, exploited by buisness and ripped of by the rest of you, if i can make a few bucks selling vw's abroad, i'm afraid you forced me into it, i have to do it to pay the freckin rent!!!!!😬😬😬
xornge666x ·
vwjon wrote:
We all have an equal chance some of us work hard and some don't
If you can't swim don't go in the deep end
silver when you actually know what you are talking about please feel free to comment, untill you have factual information, please shut up!
i would love to work as hard as anybody else on this site, but again YOUR government restricts me, i'm not allowed to work extra over time, because i have a minimum wage my boss is very happy to pay that and no more!
I am not allowed a second job, etc etc, the joys of being a foreign worker you see, exploited by buisness and ripped of by the rest of you, if i can make a few bucks selling vw's abroad, i'm afraid you forced me into it, i have to do it to pay the freckin rent!!!!!😬😬😬
ripped off by the rest of you???
you ARE a foreign worker, and I presume are free to leave if you dont like the conditions and regulations put in place by THE government.
Instead of bringing the VW to you, maybe you should go to it... so you dont need to poach OZ VW's to make a living.
frenzix ·
ill make a small minded comment,
who cares? they are their cars, to do what they want to with.
silver ·
vwjon wrote:
We all have an equal chance some of us work hard and some don't
If you can't swim don't go in the deep end
silver when you actually know what you are talking about please feel free to comment, untill you have factual information, please shut up!
i would love to work as hard as anybody else on this site, but again YOUR government restricts me, i'm not allowed to work extra over time, because i have a minimum wage my boss is very happy to pay that and no more!
I am not allowed a second job, etc etc, the joys of being a foreign worker you see, exploited by buisness and ripped of by the rest of you, if i can make a few bucks selling vw's abroad, i'm afraid you forced me into it, i have to do it to pay the freckin rent!!!!!😬😬😬
Well thats your choice isn't it!
by the way John has a "H" in it
VWCOOL ·
You wants the cars, you pays the moneys. Easy.
But I must say, I'm not real keen on the less-than-honourable 'business ethics' of some 'enterpreneurs'
Craig Torrens ·
1303Steve wrote:So Craig, who made you "what is OK to do to your VW police"?
Does the "Sheriff" badge I bought from Toys R Us count ?😂
JVLRacing ·
shit this topic has some sting!🤘
Calcool ·
Hi All,
I have thought about this for ages and read a lot of Volks Worlds in my time, most projects involve buying a VW, keeping the roof and the windows and welding everything else up often with rust free panels from the US.
The Europeans have it tough with Snow, Salt and Rust. They know they got it wrong when they sent the convicts here, they should have left the convicts in the UK and settled the goodies here instead.
I was recently in London and went to a VW show and I can tell you they know how to put on a good show, their regulations are different to ours too, basically if the floor of your car does not have any holes in it after an ipsection with a screwdriver you can register it, so the "Rat Look is really allowing many cars back on the road" These guys do sooo much work to get their cars to our wrecking yard quality. I know there are still lots of early Beetles out in the bush, and I am afraid my kids will not have an Old VW to drive around in, but I will face that challenge then.
I feel ashamed at what I have wrecked over the years that I thought was too much work or no-one would take it off my hands for free or even for a case of beer. But, the Europeans will repair anything and many cars here that wont sell or go to the crushers will be appreciated and restored over there.
Once Australia pulls its finger out and becomes the clean energy source the world is screaming for we will be rich like the OPEC countries and will be able to bring all the cars back that the Europeans have worked so hard on restoring.
If someone wants what you have and the price is right, sell it. I would not leave $5000 cash siting in my driveway, but no-one locally yet has given me $5000 for my 99% rust free 54 Beetle, so it may end up overseas.
Cheers,
See you at Nambucca,
David
hellbugged ·
Calcool wrote:Hi All,
I have thought about this for ages and read a lot of Volks Worlds in my time, most projects involve buying a VW, keeping the roof and the windows and welding everything else up often with rust free panels from the US.
The Europeans have it tough with Snow, Salt and Rust. They know they got it wrong when they sent the convicts here, they should have left the convicts in the UK and settled the goodies here instead.
I was recently in London and went to a VW show and I can tell you they know how to put on a good show, their regulations are different to ours too, basically if the floor of your car does not have any holes in it after an ipsection with a screwdriver you can register it, so the "Rat Look is really allowing many cars back on the road" These guys do sooo much work to get their cars to our wrecking yard quality. I know there are still lots of early Beetles out in the bush, and I am afraid my kids will not have an Old VW to drive around in, but I will face that challenge then.
I feel ashamed at what I have wrecked over the years that I thought was too much work or no-one would take it off my hands for free or even for a case of beer. But, the Europeans will repair anything and many cars here that wont sell or go to the crushers will be appreciated and restored over there.
Once Australia pulls its finger out and becomes the clean energy source the world is screaming for we will be rich like the OPEC countries and will be able to bring all the cars back that the Europeans have worked so hard on restoring.
If someone wants what you have and the price is right, sell it. I would not leave $5000 cash siting in my driveway, but no-one locally yet has given me $5000 for my 99% rust free 54 Beetle, so it may end up overseas.
Cheers,
See you at Nambucca,
David
well said.........got a link to the '54?
vwsteve ·
at the end of the day money talks and bullshit walks, the thing that annoys me on this site is too many dreamers or people with no money saying they will buy something and then pull out which stuffs up the others who were interested at the time but then moved on, i am one of those people who does what he says, wish everyone else applied to the same rule!😎
Calcool ·
hellbugged wrote:
Calcool wrote:Hi All,
I have thought about this for ages and read a lot of Volks Worlds in my time, most projects involve buying a VW, keeping the roof and the windows and welding everything else up often with rust free panels from the US.
The Europeans have it tough with Snow, Salt and Rust. They know they got it wrong when they sent the convicts here, they should have left the convicts in the UK and settled the goodies here instead.
I was recently in London and went to a VW show and I can tell you they know how to put on a good show, their regulations are different to ours too, basically if the floor of your car does not have any holes in it after an ipsection with a screwdriver you can register it, so the "Rat Look is really allowing many cars back on the road" These guys do sooo much work to get their cars to our wrecking yard quality. I know there are still lots of early Beetles out in the bush, and I am afraid my kids will not have an Old VW to drive around in, but I will face that challenge then.
I feel ashamed at what I have wrecked over the years that I thought was too much work or no-one would take it off my hands for free or even for a case of beer. But, the Europeans will repair anything and many cars here that wont sell or go to the crushers will be appreciated and restored over there.
Once Australia pulls its finger out and becomes the clean energy source the world is screaming for we will be rich like the OPEC countries and will be able to bring all the cars back that the Europeans have worked so hard on restoring.
If someone wants what you have and the price is right, sell it. I would not leave $5000 cash siting in my driveway, but no-one locally yet has given me $5000 for my 99% rust free 54 Beetle, so it may end up overseas.
we'd all love them to stay here, but unlike here people in the uk will pay big $ to own a vw.
Lets say;
someone in oz will only pay you $10 000 and the guy in the uk will pay you $30 000, what would you do? Your heart tells you to keep it in oz. But that new project of yours could do with an extra $20k injection couldnt it!
As i see it, most people in oz dont want to pay much for anything, the car scene revolves around alot of talk.
OS people are willing to put big bucks on the table to pay for their hobby.
Whilst walking down one row of cars at a show in the USA or UK i'd say their is more money spent on 20 cars there than the whole lot of them at the nationals here..
I would not wait around and take 15 years to finish a project for the sake of some $.
My hobby is building cars, not collecting parts. yes it takes alot of cash If this scares you, take up knitting. 🙂
type3kid ·
silver wrote:If you can't swim don't go in the deep end
well said.
ps- this is quite an amusing topic.....😂
dogo ·
I never heard of anyone selling to the lowest bidder. This has to be the stupidest thread I have ever read.
X-I-TED ·
fuch wrote:Why the F@*% are people sending VW's overseas. I don't usually concern myself with other peoples business, but today I just found out a shop I (used) to deal with in Melb has been buying VW's and sending them overseas just to make a buck.
Personally, I think this is morally wrong, as the more that go OS the less chance my kids or grandkids will see a VW driving on the road.
I run a VW/Porsche resto business and,yes, I have bought and sold a few VW's.
Every one of them I have done substantial repairs to, to ensure they will never see the graveyard, turned down offers from overseas buyers and created cars that have drawn people into the scene.
I am sick of workshops and people buying cars, doing nothing to them and either selling them overseas or for ridiculously escalated prices. This just makes it unaffordable for every day people to get into the scene.
I personally will not support these money hungry people/shops and hope others will follow.
Make your money on the share market, and leave our cars alone!
what do you mean by "our cars"🤪
i dont mind cars going to u.s and g.b but under no circumstances should they be sold to queenslanders bloody cane toads comming in here and snapping up all our cars🤪
infact lets stop exporting all together......anything ........we dont need any export dollars weve got printing machines why not just print more money give every ozzy a million or two then we can go overseas n buy back all those lost vw's
fuch for PM!!!!! 🤪
and then this gem
adlof pol pot stalin silver could become our dictator 😂
"How that small minded!!!! The rentals are not high enough for me and all the other slum lords, and as for the government I didn't vote for them they are not mine My ideal govt would stop welfare and terminate the pregnancys of the unemployed and let me increase rents above 15% at a time
We all have an equal chance some of us work hard and some don't
If you can't swim don't go in the deep end"
you forgot
if you dont like the smell of gas get outa the chamber
but i must say the superior quality of the metal in old vw really do make the best shavers
silver ·
Heill Silver
I could make this country great
see how they handle street kids in Columbia
SILVER 11
amazeer ·
I sold my first rusted beyond a normal persons care fastback to someone in Newcastle who wanted it only for the brakes. He came down to Wollongong to pick it up. too.
Later, I couldnt sell my rust free fastback shell so it went to the scrap dealer for nothing. I couldnt sell guards for $10 at the nationals, ended up giving them away to a workshop. I would have been happy for a greedy pom to take mine off me. With the aussie dollar at 98 cents, we can sell all of ours to blighty and then import more from the US.