Considering what to use in the early Type 3 as a fuel return line. Anyone let me know what they used?
Also, it looks like external fuel pump/swirl pot is the way to go for fuel delivery, yeah?
Today I was finalising little things that need to be completed before the engine is bolted in for the last time. One of those little things were the fuel lines, which were actually a big thing. I bought some 8mm steel fuel line from a shop, but they didn't have enough. I managed to find someone that had a fuel line from a jeep that he thought might fit. So I ended up using that for the return line. The only thing was the jeep fuel line was extremely tough and I had real trouble bending it. But I got there in the end.
So now I have 3 fuel lines in the car, an 8mm line for the fuel supply, another 8mm line for the fuel return (needed for the EFI pressure regulator), and the old VW 6mm line that I will use for the carbon canister tank-vent line.
The 8mm lines exit the pan near the clutch and throttle cables. They have to be way over to the left to dodge the big type 2 gearbox. As you can see, a plate covers the original gearbox shifter hole, and the new shifter position is through the 2 inch lift kit.
I managed to die grind the original hole in the front of the tunnel big enough to fit the two 8mm lines in as well. You can also see where the surge tank will fit. A little close to the tie-rod, but it fits. The surge tank will be gravity fed from the original fuel tank, so I am also putting a 10mm outlet in the original tank to ensure it feeds the surge tank properly.
Hopefully tomorrow I will bolt the engine and radiator in properly and start running the wiring and radiator piping.
555bug ·
just to reiterate what Wes has already stated. I'm putting an subaru in my beetle and I am running three 6-AN (ID = 5/16 or 8mm) lines. The stock fuel line in a bug is around 5mm and would work fine for the carbon canister return but as I cut mine out I've just run another -6 line. On a tangent -6 lines will flow enough for 1000cc injectors on a four cylinder so that should be ample 🙂 My setup goes: fuell cell --> lift pump --> filter 1 --> surge tank --> HP pump (044) --> filter 2 --> rail --> return to surge which diverts to fuel cell.
Stephen
vw54 ·
I am using 8mm rubber lines for both inlet and return no swirl pots or other crap
feed from tank to Pump is gravity using 1/2 inch line through a low pressure fuel filter
works well
1303Steve ·
Hi
Don't listen VW54 about swirl pots etc, he drives like scone gobbler and if he ever got fuel surge going around a corner he might do some damage, but as he drives like a scone gobbler its unlikely to happen.
A company in Castle Hill called Race Tech steel 02 9680 1001 can supply 5052 annealed aluminium tube which would be ideal but it would need to be securely fastened, which would be hard to do in the tunnel, OK maybe if you ran them outside the tunnel.
Steved
bajachris88 ·
i got 10mm and 8mm ID stainless steel conduit from a tube mob in yatala. Wasn't cheap stuff. (Yes 10mm is quite big)
Hutcho ·
Thanks guys. Anyone know where I can pick up 8mm steel pipe from in Sydney?
Steve, whatever a scone gobbler is, I WONT be driving like that. Ill leave it to Dave to do that.
06 EJ20 NA motor is in, Radiator w/AC Condensor is in, all coolant lines are hooked up, wiring done. Just need fuel! Not long now....
Hutcho
ian.mezz ·
you just need a VL Commodore pump about $90.00 new
ian.mezz ·
Hutcho wrote:Thanks guys. Anyone know where I can pick up 8mm steel pipe from in Sydney?
Steve, whatever a scone gobbler is, I WONT be driving like that. Ill leave it to Dave to do that.
06 EJ20 NA motor is in, Radiator w/AC Condensor is in, all coolant lines are hooked up, wiring done. Just need fuel! Not long now....
Hutcho
just call your local brake supplier cost about $33.00 for 6meters long by 8mm
1303Steve ·
Hi
A scone gobbler is old person who does lawn bowls, eats scones and drives slowly.
I bought my swirl pot from Injection perfection and my fuel pump from Ebay.
Steve
vw54 ·
Don't listen VW54 about swirl pots etc, he drives like scone gobbler and if he ever got fuel surge going around a corner he might do some damage, but as he drives like a scone gobbler its unlikely to happen.
CARTER your a Booof head get out in the garage and off the putor and stop TALKING about it and actually DO some work on your car for a change
and your wasting your time doing a swirl pot Even Dave Becker didnt have one fitted to his turbo Bug
pete wood ·
😂 scone gobbler 😂
try disproving that one eh? 😂
i've got a 1litre surge tank and 8mm cold drawn tube from pirtek to and from the main tank...it too was pricey.
1303Steve ·
Hi
Dave your are getting senile, Dave Beckers car had a carby.
Steve
vw54 ·
B 4 this STUPID
1303Steve ·
Oh remember, the one that he couldn't get to run properly.
Im going out to work on my bug
vw54 ·
i C yr still on line
go and do something
instead on standing in it all day long
pete wood ·
^ yep, this is very funny! 😂
never seen you arc up like this before steve...funny stuff 👍
gazman ·
pete wood wrote:i've got a 1litre surge tank and 8mm cold drawn tube from pirtek to and from the main tank...it too was pricey.
We used a surge tank too, and a VL pump, 1/2 inch feed for the pump and 8mm (5/16) for the rest... works perfect. Also changed the tank outlet from 6 to 8mm. 😎
ian.mezz ·
1303Steve wrote:Hi
A scone gobbler is old person who does lawn bowls, eats scones and drives slowly.
I bought my swirl pot from Injection perfection and my fuel pump from Ebay.
Steve
swirl pot ,🤪 I think steve is using some sort of pot. 😁😁🤪😂
pete wood ·
there is some argument to say that the gravity feed tank on a VW can somewhat negate the use of a surge tank, but what the heck, you might as well do it properly if you're going to do it at all.
vw54 ·
you might as well do it properly if you're going to do it at all.
I did LOL
1303Steve ·
Hi
Picking holes in Birchall arguments is like kicking puppies.
If you have to drive so slowly around a corner so that you don't get fuel surge or the lawn bowls ball roll around the car and you will always keep at least 1/2 a tank of petrol in the car, don't fit a surge tank.
If however you intend to go around corners faster than a sundial, you need a surge tank to prevent fuel starvation, which can kill a fuel pump or worse cause a sudden lean out in your fuel mixtures.
Steve
Hutcho ·
1303Steve wrote:Hi
Picking holes in Birchall arguments is like kicking puppies.
If you have to drive so slowly around a corner so that you don't get fuel surge or the lawn bowls ball roll around the car and you will always keep at least 1/2 a tank of petrol in the car, don't fit a surge tank.
If however you intend to go around corners faster than a sundial, you need a surge tank to prevent fuel starvation, which can kill a fuel pump or worse cause a sudden lean out in your fuel mixtures.
Steve
^Ha!
Does anyone out there have pics of thier Swirl Pot/Pump setups insitu? Im not sure where to locate mine......
Also, this may sound like a dumb question, does the 6mm pipe from the motor vent back to the fuel tank?
Ta
Steve
vw54 ·
At least my car is driving and NOT sitting in the garage
Stop BS ing and gt back to work just another piece of crap u do need
vw54 ·
For got to add how much EXTRA power does this swirl pot give me
VWCOOL ·
vw54 wrote:For got to add how much EXTRA power does this swirl pot give me
..none, but it will prevent your engine stumbling or cutting out altogether mid-corner
Haven't tried yet, but a 500ml or so pot upstream of the EFI pump and fed by gravity from the standard VW tank should work okay...?
rocknrob ·
yeah thats what i got on the kombi but its 5 litres...a tubular tank that lies crossways on top of the gearbox...gravity fed from the standard kombi fitting and the fuel return goes back into the other end of it and its vented back to the main tank...works great but don't know how much room other VWs have👍
mactaylor ·
scone gobbler i aint but am gunna try and run a 22mm id ally fuel line all the way to the pump mounted in th rear near the torsion bar tube nearly 1 litre of juice gravity fed hopefully will work oh and an 8mm bundy tube return just to stay on topic you pack of scone gobblers.
ian.mezz ·
Really
how many people drive ther street cars around corners that fast to need a swirl pot, its the sort of stuff the dyno shops sell to the young ricers to go with ther monster tachos and bright yellow shifts lights 🤪😂🤪😂
I have two fuel injected bugs, no swirl pot and no probs😂
I can do all the speed limits plus a bit more around corners.
with out any prob,but I am not a boy racer🙅🙅
If your going to race around eastern creek race track on the week end then you may need one😂
1303Steve ·
Hi Ian
So what happens when you get low on fuel, drive even slower?
I finally know why you guys are not wanting fit a swirl tank, its 1/2 a litre of fuel you will never get to use, I know VW drivers are renowned tight wads but this is ridiculous.😂
When you retrofit EFI to a carby car you need to replicate what the factory does, the factory cars don't use an external swirl potbut they do use a swirl pot fitted to the fuel tank.
Steve
PSD. Ricers really crack me up when they fit a monster tacho to a car that had a tacho fitted from the factory.
vw54 ·
So what happens when you get low on fuel, drive even slower?
so what happens when yr swirl pot runs out of fuel
just fill up when you get to reserve and you wont have a problem
pete wood ·
ian.mezz wrote:Really
how many people drive ther street cars around corners that fast to need a swirl pot, its the sort of stuff the dyno shops sell to the young ricers to go with ther monster tachos and bright yellow shifts lights 🤪😂🤪😂
I have two fuel injected bugs, no swirl pot and no probs😂
I can do all the speed limits plus a bit more around corners.
with out any prob,but I am not a boy racer🙅🙅
If your going to race around eastern creek race track on the week end then you may need one😂
what wrong with you lot? don't drive your beetles hard? too many scones? ❓
I used to love throwing my 67 beetle round corner hard (particularly in the rain 🤓 ), I drive my buggy even harder at race days and that's mostly under 60km/h. Last year I got it airbourne once.
As for swirlpots, anyone putting EFI in anything these days adds a swirlpot if the car has a non EFI style fuel tank. If you have a turbo car they are a must do, if not, they are a great idea. Don't diss them because ricers use them. Ricers use alloy wheels, stereos and turbos...do you want to throw them all out too?
vw54, I know you have lots of experience but swirlpots are basic to a good EFI system.
The only person I have known stupid enough to do an EFI conversion without a swirl pot had issues where the engine would cut out when he tried to accelerate through a T intersection with a fuel level less than 1/4 of a tank. Not very safe to pull out through an intersection and have the engine cut.
Brad ·
I don;t have a swirl pot on any of my EJ powered Volkswagens, I am gravity feeding the VL style pump with a 1/2 line direct from the tank and have never had any issues.
But I guess that must mean I am a scone gobbler and don't drive hard enough on or off road. For all those who have seen me drive they will confirm this.
My EJ powered buggy gets driven about 500 km a week and thrashed around the farm on the weekend without issue.
Out of the several EJ's I have fitted hardly any of them have been fitted with a swirl pot and those who have had them fitted have seen no difference.
By all means fit one if you want, ain't real hard, just something else to leak.
Brad ·
Baja Wes wrote:The only person I have known stupid enough to do an EFI conversion without a swirl pot had issues where the engine would cut out when he tried to accelerate through a T intersection with a fuel level less than 1/4 of a tank. Not very safe to pull out through an intersection and have the engine cut.
Hehe you forgot about ME ... and yes I am stupid enough .... in fact I am going to go out in my stupid non swirl pot fitted buggy right now to pick up a load of 6m fence rails. I hope I can get there and back without a swirl pot.
rocknrob ·
in fact I am going to go out in my stupid non swirl pot fitted buggy right now to pick up a load of 6m fence rails. I hope I can get there and back without a swirl pot.
now i want to see a pic of that😂
Brad ·
Ok I will take a picture of it for you. Just finished unloading 2 Kombi Transmissions and 2 x 44 gal drums full of Hydraulic Fluid for the BackHoe off the back of the Buggy before I went to the hardware to get my rails, only prob was they are a sensitive new age hardware and only had crappy ass pine so I came home without anything, will have to wait until Monday and pick them up on my way home from a real timber shop.
To date the most I have had on the back on the Buggy is 4 x 44 Gal drums full of water just to see what would happen, can you say no steering ...... now I limit myself to no more than 2 and no longer than 6m lengths.
Luckily for me as I don;t have a swirl pot I have plenty of carrying capability left in my 2.3 GVM (or whatever it is).
vw54 ·
. I hope I can get there and back without a swirl pot.
So did you make it Brad ???
Baja Wes ·
You can drive around with no air cleaner too (may even gain a HP or two), it doesn't make it a good idea.
I would expect every car made today has some sort of internal swirl pot, and even those sometimes aren't good enough for track work.
Hutcho ·
Thanks for your help guys.
Ive purchased a Peirburg Lifter Pump from Ebaay, a HP Peirburg pump from Injectors Online and the best bit, 2 x 3mtrs 10mm Aluminium seamless tubing from Bunnings for 10 bucks each for fuel! Every now and then Bunnings comes through with the goods! Im also using radiator pipes from Bunnings....
After a few measurements, I think Im going to go for the 500ml Surge Tank from Tweakit.com...
Now, to install it all and start the sucker!
liam66 ·
I wouldn't put fuel in anything from bunnings...ever.
Is this tubing anealed seamless ? suitable for pressurised applications? Is it even clean inside ? any idea what coatings your going to be running through your injectors?
Bunnings, like Telstra, are not your friends, they're not their to help.
For what it's worth I'm not running a external swirl pot on my project ( ej20 Turbo J and S beach buggy). Instead I've got a new vw tank ($75) and bought a standard wrx pump and in tank unit from ebay ($120). In tank pumps are nice and quiet and with a bit of rework it'll be set up like a standard subaru. Because it's a new tank I'll be able to add the extra lines, a deep 'sump' and the correct boss to take the subaru mounting plate.
I'd be extremly surprised if it suffers any fuel starvation issues- if it does than a reservoir of about a litre or so in the supply line near the engine should solve it. A simple 1 inlet, 1 outlet job will do it.
In hardcore and competition offroad applications we'd NEVER build anything without a coolcan/ swirlpot if a lifter or low presure pump was involved. In these type applications a lot of guys run 'hobbs' type switches (often called idiot switches) when fuel press, oil press drops or temp too high it simply shuts the motor off or lights a huge light on the dash to tell you your having too much fun.
Hutcho ·
liam66 wrote:I wouldn't put fuel in anything from bunnings...ever.
Is this tubing anealed seamless ? suitable for pressurised applications? Is it even clean inside ? any idea what coatings your going to be running through your injectors?
Maybe your right or wrong. I dont know. Yes, its annealed and seamless. I blew compressed air through it but it seems really clean anyway. Coatings through the injectors? Ive put a 5 micron EFI filter between the Alum line and HP pump...?
I looked around and found this which in my un-proffesional opinion doesnt seem to be much different from what I got. http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1569&osCsid=756b7cd5293ecff00577b116c40f612f
None the less, youve put the fear into me, so Ill contact the supplier and get some tech details from them and also ill pressure test the second (unused) length I got at work.
liam66 wrote:For what it's worth I'm not running a external swirl pot on my project ( ej20 Turbo J and S beach buggy). Instead I've got a new vw tank ($75) and bought a standard wrx pump and in tank unit from ebay ($120). In tank pumps are nice and quiet and with a bit of rework it'll be set up like a standard subaru. Because it's a new tank I'll be able to add the extra lines, a deep 'sump' and the correct boss to take the subaru mounting plate.
I'd be extremly surprised if it suffers any fuel starvation issues- if it does than a reservoir of about a litre or so in the supply line near the engine should solve it. A simple 1 inlet, 1 outlet job will do it.
Sounds good. I was going to do something very similar. I bought another Type 3 fuel tank, an intank fuel pump setup (suits a late ford) and was going to get the tank modded up with a small 1ltr "swirl" tank welded onto the bottom with the intank pump sitting inside it. Im sure it would work but as Im not metal fabricator, to get the tank done, was going to cost me approx $500 to get a shop to do it. So, I went with a more "bolt on" type solution. Theres a lot of "discussion" on this thread wheather Surge Tanks are gimmicky or not, but I think it cant hurt fitting one.
Steve
Baja Wes ·
liam66 wrote:I'd be extremly surprised if it suffers any fuel starvation issues- if it does than a reservoir of about a litre or so in the supply line near the engine should solve it. A simple 1 inlet, 1 outlet job will do it.
A reserviour in the HP line between the pump and the motor will not do anything. If there is no flow from the pump, there will be nothing to force the flow through the reserviour. At best it would gravity drain, which will not supply your injectors with enough pressure to do anything useful.
Hutcho - Ive put a 5 micron EFI filter between the Alum line and HP pump...?
I'm not sure what you meant here, but don't put a fine filter on the inlet to a HP pump, it will ruin the pump. The most you should run on the inlet to a HP pump is a simple strainer. Stock EFI cars with in-tank pumps use strainer bags. Any fine filters need to be on the outlet of the HP pump.
1303Steve ·
liam66 wrote:In hardcore and competition offroad applications we'd NEVER build anything without a coolcan/ swirlpot if a lifter or low presure pump was involved. In these type applications a lot of guys run 'hobbs' type switches (often called idiot switches) when fuel press, oil press drops or temp too high it simply shuts the motor off or lights a huge light on the dash to tell you your having too much fun.
Hi
I ran both my pre pump and main pump from the ECU, no signal from the motor, no pump operation.
Steve
helbus ·
I don't have a swirl pot fitted to our bus with EJ22. It works fine most of the time. However. If I go a hard right turn when under a 1/4 tank, the fuel goes to the left of the tank and the outlet is on the right, so I get a fuel drop out. Simple fact is a swirl pot would eliminate this problem.
1303Steve ·
Hi Hellbus
You could use a factory EFI tank if you could find one.
Steve
vw54 ·
You could use a factory EFI tank if you could find one
BUt u dont need one just wasting more money
Adsman ·
Hutcho wrote:Ive put a 5 micron EFI filter between the Alum line and HP pump...?
What brand and where do you buy a 5 micron fuel filter? And what filter medium do they use?
Hutcho ·
helbus wrote:I don't have a swirl pot fitted to our bus with EJ22. It works fine most of the time. However. If I go a hard right turn when under a 1/4 tank, the fuel goes to the left of the tank and the outlet is on the right, so I get a fuel drop out. Simple fact is a swirl pot would eliminate this problem.
....and thats in a Bus! Considering I dont intend to slow down one bit around corners, I think Ill do the safe thing and spend the $200, so the motor has no excuse to run out of fuel....
rnrnWhat brand and where do you buy a 5 micron fuel filter? And what filter medium do they use?
Mate, its just a standard EFi filter. Generally though, filters come with 5/16, 8mm in/out tails. This one has 3/8, 10mm tails to suit the fuel line and HP pump infeed.
rnrnI'm not sure what you meant here, but don't put a fine filter on the inlet to a HP pump, it will ruin the pump. The most you should run on the inlet to a HP pump is a simple strainer. Stock EFI cars with in-tank pumps use strainer bags. Any fine filters need to be on the outlet of the HP pump.
Im hearing you and understand what your saying but 1/Its just a standard replacement filter 2/My EFI 914 has the factory filter (exact same one) before the HP pump and runs fine. Looks like its the original pump too from 35 years ago!
Steve
Baja Wes ·
Hutcho wrote:Im hearing you and understand what your saying but 1/Its just a standard replacement filter 2/My EFI 914 has the factory filter (exact same one) before the HP pump and runs fine. Looks like its the original pump too from 35 years ago!
But doesn't the 914 have the return line join in after the filter? Therefore not all the flow had to go through the filter and there won't be as much pressure drop across the filter.
Just be careful your sure your not missing anything. Not all HP pumps are the same construction either.
Excellent! Thanks, Steve. Its not on there now😊 Wish I saw this 2 days ago. It would have saved me $160 😬
Steve.
Hutcho ·
Hi Guys,
Just in case anyone is interested, I thought Id take some pictures of the EFI Type 3 tank I had just bought and post them here. Its pretty interesting....
This first pic is obviously looking at the top of the tank showing the main inlet which hasnt been hooked up to the inlet nozzel thingy yet...
Also shows to the right of that, the tank breather/vent which is about 18mm compared to my early non efi tank which has a 10/12mm vent.
Hutcho ·
This is the botom of the tank. The "bent' pipe is the delivery line to the pump. The pipe next to it, is the return. They are both the same size of 8mm internal. This suits 5/16 fuel hose. The delivery pipe off my old non-efi tank was smaller at 6mm.
Hutcho ·
This pic was taken at the opening of the fuel sender. I took a few and this one turned out the best. Ive described the different areas on the pic. If anyone would like the large, detailed pics, contact me.
1303Steve ·
Hi
The factory did a nice job, Ive seen new EFI tanks for bugs on other sites, I wonder why more people don't use them?
I wonder why the factory went to all this trouble for something you don't need? (insert smiley with tongue in cheek)
Steve
Hutcho ·
1303Steve wrote:Hi
The factory did a nice job, Ive seen new EFI tanks for bugs on other sites, I wonder why more people don't use them?
I wonder why the factory went to all this trouble for something you don't need? (insert smiley with tongue in cheek)
Steve
Hi Steve, I knew you would get a kick out of these pics. Im sure if it was cheaper for the factory to fabricate an external surge tange tank and a fit another pump it fill it, they would have. Anyway, your right. It looks like a great job and Im pretty happy to be using it. Anyone know the fuel circuit/setup for an EFI Type 3?
Steve
vw54 ·
i would open the feed line up to 1/2 inch
what pump will you be using whats the size of the inlet on it ???
mackaymanx ·
Here is the detail of the venturi in the type 3 fuel tank return line.
MickH ·
You gotta like the way it mixes the warm return line fuel with the "cooler" fuel in the tank👍
Hutcho ·
vw54 wrote:i would open the feed line up to 1/2 inch
what pump will you be using whats the size of the inlet on it ???
Fair call, Dave. I think I will. The pump has a 1/2 inch inlet.
vw54 ·
Most new type EFI pumps have a 1/2 " inlet or feed and a 5/16 " outlet
if you dont increase the inlet line you will most probally find the pump will starve for fuel
and wont maintain correct pressure in the system
VWCOOL ·
MickH wrote:You gotta like the way it mixes the warm return line fuel with the "cooler" fuel in the tank👍
yeah that helps with evap emissions control but VW would have sited it there to keep fuel available at the outlet, right down to an absolutely empty tank
Baja Wes ·
Great pics and info on the type 3 EFI tanks guys.
VWCOOL ·
Do you reckon a USA Beetle Cabriolet EFI would be similar?
MickH ·
VWCOOL wrote:
MickH wrote:You gotta like the way it mixes the warm return line fuel with the "cooler" fuel in the tank👍
yeah that helps with evap emissions control but VW would have sited it there to keep fuel available at the outlet, right down to an absolutely empty tank
DUH🤓
pete wood ·
who'd a thunk this thread could have gone on so long... 🤪
some good stuff in here though.
GeorgeL ·
There is a happy medium between no swirl pot at all and a full-blown low-pressure-pump-fed swirl pot.
You can add a 1-liter can beneath the tank with an inlet from the tank at the top, an outlet to the pump at the bottom, and an vent outlet at the top that is plumbed into the vent line at the top of the tank. This way you always have 1 liter of fuel available to the pump. The level might drop momentarily during heavy acceleration, but unless you keep your foot in it for a full liter's worth of fun you'll never starve the pump. When you get off the gas the can will refill via gravity feed.
I've seen this done when adapting carb vehicles to EFI where the owner didn't want to alter the stock fuel tank. Seems to work fine.
Baja Wes ·
That's the set-up I originally had. It didn't work. The fuel in the surge tank got too hot. See the other surge tank thread.
GeorgeL ·
Baja Wes wrote:That's the set-up I originally had. It didn't work. The fuel in the surge tank got too hot. See the other surge tank thread.
Probably because you plumbed your fuel return to the surge tank. If you plumb it to the main tank it should not overheat.
Here's an interesting approach, the $30 surge tank:
(not recommending, but he seems to have had good luck with it!)
Baja Wes ·
You can do that but you need a very large line going from the main tank to the surge tank, as the fuel flow rate is very high and you don't want to restrict the HP pump at all. If you do it will have a shorter than normal life.
Depending on your pump size a 1L surge tank will last between 15 and 30 seconds without fuel being fed to it. For offroading I wanted a little longer than that. When I used to have a VW engine I used to find the oil light would come on sometimes, particular down steep hills. I didn't want the same problem with the fuel.
rocknrob ·
Well if you are fortunate enough to drive a kombi😎 there is room to slot a decent surge tank in...also gives a bit of reserve in emergencies....
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I've got it sloping down to the pump to get the best effect and reduce sloshing...holds 5litres and the return goes into the high end and from there the breather goes back to the tank. Didn't even need to change the miserable little 6mm outlet from the tank🙅
Hutcho ·
rocknrob wrote:Well if you are fortunate enough to drive a kombi😎 there is room to slot a decent surge tank in...also gives a bit of reserve in emergencies....
Looks good, Rob.
Is that clear, steel coiled, hose for the coolant? Would be intersting to see the flow over the longer distances.
Steve
rocknrob ·
No Hutcho...that was just some hose i had lying around and used for a test fit...I used the black rubber stuff with the green stripe to get over the hump and stainless for the rest😎 how's your engine going?