Hey Guys,
The Notch conversion isnt far off being completed now..
65 Notch body,
72 Pan modded with tuning forks/horns.
73 brakes all round.
2006 Impreza EJ20 motor. 4k km's old.
OE ECU.
Heres a pic of the motor insitu..
Hutcho ·
The radiator with A/C installed..
Hutcho ·
Under pan coolant lines..
Hutcho ·
Hmmmm....
pete wood ·
great work. you're gonna love driving it. 😏
JVLRacing ·
Hutcho wrote:Hey Guys,
The Notch conversion isnt far off being completed now..
65 Notch body,
72 Pan modded with tuning forks/horns.
73 brakes all round.
2006 Impreza EJ20 motor. 4k km's old.
OE ECU.
Heres a pic of the motor insitu..
nice😎
VWCOOL ·
Sheit yeah! Looks great
Flintstones ·
what they said!! 👍👍😎
Notch Nut ·
Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?
Hutcho ·
Thank, guys. I cant wait! Its been a looong time in the making. Ive just decided in the last few months that it must be completed so Ive spent every spare second on it. Just waiting for the Surge Tank from Tweakit.com.
Notch Nut wrote:Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?
Hi mate, I havent filled it yet but will in the next day or two. Ill let you know then. The radiator is out of a Ford Zetec. I could take a guess at 7 litres. Any special reason you ask?
Cheers,
Steve
1303Steve ·
Hi
Fits nice. So are you going run AC?
Steve
rocknrob ·
Notch Nut wrote:Out of curiosity, how many litres of coolant/water would it take to fill the radiator and hoses with the extra length required to reach the engine?
yeah 7 litres sounds about right for your car...i have the rad in the front of the kombi and it takes about 10L👍
trickysimon ·
How many litres go into a normal watercooled car for comparison?
Simon
pete wood ·
My buggy takes about 9litres I think. THe usual is about 3-4 I think.
hellbugged ·
hellnotch takes 17 L with the commadore rad......
nice install hutcho, you will be rapped with the performance i bet........
my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......
Notch Nut ·
Just curious cos it has a hell of a way to travel from the radiator to the engine and back again. Also, it looked to be of large diameter hosing as well so I figured it would be well over what the radiator/engine set up would have required in it's origional car (I figured that the radiator would probably hold between 4-5 litres normally).
Would the water pump be under any more strain having to pump the coolant further to the radiator or because there is no air in the system it makes no difference?
- Adam
pete wood ·
^ re the pump. its not really under more strain because the water is in a closed system.
hellbugged wrote:my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......
[arnie voice] DOO IT! DOO IT NOOW!!!😂
Hutcho ·
Notch Nut wrote:Just curious cos it has a hell of a way to travel from the radiator to the engine and back again. Also, it looked to be of large diameter hosing as well so I figured it would be well over what the radiator/engine set up would have required in it's original car (I figured that the radiator would probably hold between 4-5 litres normally).Would the water pump be under any more strain having to pump the coolant further to the radiator or because there is no air in the system it makes no difference?- Adam
Hi Adam,The distance is a fraction over 2 meters. The pipe/hose diameter is 32mm throughout. Its actually slightly smaller than the motor inlet/outlet which measures at 35ish? I had thought about (and heard rumours of problems with) the water pump. I seacrched around and couldnt find any of these rumours substantiated though so I think its all just hearsay so far. Ive chosen a radiator that doesnt have a cap in the hope that system doesnt hold any air pockets. The rad filler/burp tank (catches any system air) is the tank you can see inside the engine bay pic on the left. Ive still to find an overflow/expansion tank. Being a longer cooling system, Ive figured that it will equal better heat loss (it the reason why I installed metal pipes in) so perhaps the pump doesnt need to work as effectively. One way or another, Ill find out! Ive been eying off those Davis Craig Electric Water pumps too but upon research, Im not entirely convinced on them...Cheers,Steve
Hutcho ·
1303Steve wrote:Hi
Fits nice. So are you going run AC?
Steve
Hi Steve,
Yeah it does. Had to cut a fraction for the throttle body though. Im considering on lifting the motor up a bit which will, as we are all aware of, have another major benefit. Yes, the plan is to run AC. I cant think of any reason why not!🤪
Hutcho ·
hellbugged wrote:hellnotch takes 17 L with the commadore rad......
nice install hutcho, you will be rapped with the performance i bet........
my sister is up for a new motor in her notch soon so i'll be watching this one with a keen eye......
Crap! 17 ltrs! Do you have any pump issues?
The performance will be good but no where near as good as yours mate!
Even though my conversion has taken me a while due to research etc, its an extremelly simple intall once you have the right parts! When its up and running, Ill be listing every part (and cost) Ive used so maybe others wont have to buy 5 of everything to see what fits and what doesnt....
Baja Wes ·
More water just means it takes longer to warm up. Mine only holds about 5L I think, but it is rear radiator. Definitely run AC, it's cool (parden the pun).
I'm running the Davies Craig water pump. It's main advantage was that it let me remove an empty power steering pump (acting as an idler), an idler and an accessorie belt off the engine. It hasn't really done anything for the cooling, which it realistically shouldn't as the stock water pump should be more than sufficient for cooling and pumping the water around.
reub ·
Looks great. And good on you doing a full list of parts and costs for your conversion.👍 This will certainly help all those wanting to get in and do something similar.
humpty ·
My bro fitted an EJ20T into his Notch 13 years ago and it was installed in much the same manner as this conversion... My bro's has the radiator for the intercooler up front also and it run perfectly cool in 40plusº WA heat through a 300x150mm hole in the front under the bumper.... Just make sure you shroud the radiator well to direct the heat out the spare wheel well and seal it off from the front boot...
Keep it coming...
GTMac ·
Steve, that EJ20 looks far too clean 😎
I have done an aluminium shroud set up on mine now that you would prob be interested in seeing.
Andrew
Hutcho ·
humpty wrote:Bro's has the radiator for the intercooler up front also and it run perfectly cool in 40plusº WA heat through a 300x150mm hole in the front under the bumper.... Just make sure you shroud the radiator well to direct the heat out the spare wheel well and seal it off from the front boot...
Keep it coming...
Yeah, Ive yet to shroud the radiator yet. Good to hear your bros runs nice and cool. Ive got about the same size cut out in the front of mine.
GTMac wrote:Steve, that EJ20 looks far too clean rnrnI have done an aluminium shroud set up on mine now that you would prob be interested in seeing. Andrew
He he. Its waaay cleaner than the Notch, thats for sure, Andrew. Not for long though! I plan to rack up some K's on this thing very shortly! Yes, your right. I wannna see your alum. shroud contraption....PICS, PLEASE!
While Im here, I might as well update this thread. I picked up a Charcoal/Carbon Canister and an overflow tank from the wreckers yesterday (late model T@#ota) and fitted them today. I have to run another steel line down the car for the return from the Canister. Got a temp exhaust made up and fittedwith a plug for the (front) Oxy Sensor. Theres a STACK of room for a good exhaust for an EJ20 in a Type 3.
Waiting to recieve the electric pump Ive ordered as the HP pump is struggling to suck fuel from the front of the car.
Thats all fro now..
Steve
ElusiveStranger ·
Looking good mate
FYI standard dia Scooby pipes hold roughly 1.1 litre/metre.
My bus holds about 10 litres, including the XJ40 rad
Substitute litres for Kgs if you wanna know how much additional weight
cruiser ·
Hi folks,
I have also just picked up an EJ20T with plans to fit it to my 68 notch.
Looking fwd to your final notes, plenty to learn for me still.
RAZ34 ·
Nice car, could you reveal some details on your wheel/trye/brake combo . Are they boxster 17x7s all round.
Thanks
Rod R .
Scarab ·
Sorry to drag up an old post, but this looks like a great conversion.......what happened to it?? Is it finished, is it shelved....whats the go? Very interested, please let me know!!!
Hutcho ·
Hi there. Car has been put on the back burner this year. It's in storage and will be finished over the next few months.
Wheels are Boxster 17 x 7's. Tyres are 205/45's Front and 205/50's rear. I sold on those Big Reds for obvious reasons. Although it's a dream of mine to have them on a car I own, the Notch is far, far from needing them. Will be probably just running late Type 3 standard brakes for now but will be looking at an upgrade soon.
Cheers.
PS Scarab, I've read your posts about your car. Good work and good luck!
Hutcho ·
Small update and a couple of pics of the car...
Just waiting for paint at the moment.
Bought a heat exchanger/heater. Its looks like a pretty god unit. Its small enough to fit under the rear seat and blows pretty hard, in a good way! Im not sure how I'm going to get air into the other heater channel yet. Was thinking of getting another and mounting it in the other void under the seat but after completing the ecu, fuse and relay wiring, that aint gunna happen!
Hutcho ·
Heater core and ecu etc...🤪
humpty ·
Put widened stockies on that and it's an exact twin for my bro's Notch!!!!!
Looking good Hutcho...
Jak Rizzo ·
A red notch with a wrx engine, my dream car, wanna swap?
Jak
Hutcho ·
Jak Rizzo wrote:A red notch with a wrx engine, my dream car, wanna swap?
Jak
Done mate. I'll get the Notch towed to your place tomorrow! It doesn't quite have the WRX motor of your dreams but with yur contacts, it's only $2k away!😊
Jak Rizzo ·
What , u mean it doesn't run?
I have new contacts now, it's less than $2k .....................
Jak
ernie norley ·
Gday hutcho just a suggestion I was in the process of building a type 3 wagon with a rover v8 but the new regulations in the 90 s in NSW i didnt get it on the road 1/2 done but we fabricated an engine lid the put 2 large suitcases over it to hide the lump if you got a couple of period cases to suit the car cheap cover up
Ernie
if I know the weight of type 3s, you may be able to build that V8 powered square after all. 😉
choppa ·
Nice job Hutcho.
Yeah standard brakes will probably be acceptable, ive got metal pads in mine.
Get it finished and you'll be smilin.
Hutcho ·
It's been around 2.5 years since I started this thread. I said back then that it wasn't far off being fiished. Obviously, I had my hand on it.
Anyway, it's underway again. It's recently been over to see the awesome guys at RAW for rust repair and some other little mods and then off to the paint shop. It's now sitting in Brads workshop over at Westside waiting for it's new flashy exhaust...
Hi guys.
Small update.
Had exhaust fabbed by Brad at Westside. Very happy with it.
Car almost re-assembled and is now at auto sparks who is checking out an issue with the motor. An injector isn't playing the game unfortunately..
Cheers,
Steve
Hutcho ·
Off to the sparkys..
mactaylor ·
B-E-A-UTIFUL!
Ben386 ·
That looks schmico!!
Wait to you drive it,you will have a costant smile from ear to ear.🙅😎🙅😂