"words" that shit me.

I dont worry too much about spelling, not using the correct spelling of a word like their and there bothers me only a little, and I barely know a verb from a noun but I hate it when people use non-words. 3 or 4 times in the past week I have heard the word "disorientated". Now is that a real word or not? I just searched online and found both disorientated and disoriented.

Does anyone have a real dictionary, the type made from paper, that they can look it up? I need to know before I tell off someone who should know better. Though it took me years to get her to say Vietnamese instead of Vietmanese,🤓

Disoriented.

I get annoyed when people replace nothing, with nothink. It really disorientates me somethink bad.

Like when people are selling a car on epay or wherever they tend to say 'When i BROUGHT the car' etc.
It is spelt 'B O U G H T' not Brought!!
They may have 'brought it home' after they Bought it!

My 1964 Oxford English Dictionary lists "disorientate" but *not* "disorient" (although the latter is [according to the Porter algorithm] the stem of the word, and if you add back common suffixes to the stem, one possibility is "disoriented").
My 1966 (Chicago) Webster's lists neither but recognises both "orient" and "orientate" as verbs, to which one could, presumably, prefix a "dis".

In any case, these words have a very particular meaning of placing a lodestone on an altar at other than the correct angle. This might be useful in some, limited, circumstances. A more generic word for "to confuse, entangle; embroil" is "to embrangle" and it has a lovely onomatopoeic ring to it, one becomes embrangled rather than disoriented/disorientated. The word is nearly archaic, but could do with a revivavl.

hth

...revival

oh ffs really you need to get outmore to the big smoke big feller!!! 😂

I edit the Club Veedub magazine Zeitschrift, so much of my spare time is spent in fixing the spelling and grammar of the articles and stories we get.

Lots of people seem to have trouble with 'their', 'there' and 'they're'. My Australian concise Oxford lists both 'disorientate' (it says 'see disorient'), and disorient, which has the expansion 'disorientation'.

But most of the problems seem to be not the words, but the way they are used. 'I done this' and 'we done that' really annoys me. It's 'we DID this'.

I hate the way people still spell VOLKSWAGON after 54 years in Australia.

h wrote:oh ffs really you need to get outmore to the big smoke big feller!!! 😂

i have a daughter who is desperate to get into a selective high school... she at least needs to know how to speak the language, even if these days we arent required to spell it.

Ok, while we are onto the English language and it's grammer which one of these is correct..........."I will try and do it" or "I will try to do it" thats one that I often notice, but then I've got bugger all else to do

I can not write a story or spell for shit as some of you may have noticed when ready some of my replies, sometimes they do not make since to me😂🤪
But I AM 42 Years old and run a small business , I have no brains and happy with out them , thats why I have 6 beetles 😂🤪😂 no brains😂

my fave... can i arsk you something.. people do it all the time
i was brought up asking something not arsking
why o why

amazeer wrote:

h wrote:oh ffs really you need to get outmore to the big smoke big feller!!! 😂

i have a daughter who is desperate to get into a selective high school... she at least needs to know how to speak the language, even if these days we arent required to spell it.

btw your lucky i kept reading your post as the first 7 words can so be taken outta context...
watch wot ya write there chrisso 😂

h.... i think you mean "Arks you sumfink" :-) & yeah i hate it too

& Modulus,,, "Embrangle"--> i very much like it :-) & "onomatopoeic" ,,, now that one takes the cake,,, i really love that one :-)

Fanks :-)

donn wrote:Ok, while we are onto the English language and it's grammer which one of these is correct..........."I will try and do it" or "I will try to do it" thats one that I often notice, but then I've got bugger all else to do

Technically it should be 'try to' not 'try and'

Oh.. and since we're here... 'its grammar' not 'it's grammer' 🙂

Apostrophes and their insertion when not required is my pet hate...

Jay_1965vw wrote:

donn wrote:Ok, while we are onto the English language and it's grammer which one of these is correct..........."I will try and do it" or "I will try to do it" thats one that I often notice, but then I've got bugger all else to do

Technically it should be 'try to' not 'try and'

Oh.. and since we're here... 'its grammar' not 'it's grammer' 🙂

Apostrophes and their insertion when not required is my pet hate...

Technically it should be:
Apostrophes and their insertion when not required are my pet hates...

But who wants to be a Grammar Nazi?

hth

I have many pet hates when it comes to spelling. Volkswagon is definitely one of them but another is 'specialty'. It should be 'speciality' and also when people pronounce "schedule' as 'skedule' and not the correct way 'shedule'. But to be fair we live in Oz not England so I suppose we get to choose plus anyone who knows me will probably realise I'm a cockney so pronunciation is not a point I should really dwell on🙅 BTW I spent many years in typesetting as a reader where the point of the job was to check for correct spelling and grammar.

I am also going to jump on this bandwagon. Firstly I will say that I am not the worlds best speller, but no punctuation in a sentence really P's me off (off - spelt with 2 F's). When reading a sentence and it all rolls into one, doesn't make sense to me. Other forums I have been on state that you must use full stops and no abbreviations. Sometimes with swear words you may need to abbreviate.

I'm 41 and a few years ago I didn't want to except when my son was at school that the plural of fish is fishes. This was a big No No when I went to school. Also it was always Steve and I, but now its me and Steve. The standards have definitely dropped. 👎

Kevin

Wannavee wrote:Like when people are selling a car on epay or wherever they tend to say 'When i BROUGHT the car' etc.
It is spelt 'B O U G H T' not Brought!!
They may have 'brought it home' after they Bought it!

I am an english spelling freak.....

Brought is one of the most used words... lol
and their.. isn't even used by many journalists...

and I agree that everyone should know there IS an "e" in Volkswagen or "only One "o" in volkswagen



I'm on a few international forums -
so - I use - glassfiber - color - tire -
windshield = [windscreen]
fender = wing = guard - 1/4 lights = 1/4 windows
wing mirror = mirror on the guard- fender.
thats all I can think of at the moment.

But the one word that You see all the time if you have the idiots guide by the late John Muir .
"for the compleat idiot"
I do prefer 'complete'.....

LEE

Oh.. and since we're here... 'its grammar' not 'it's grammer'
Orite, I'll back out now.

If you haven't noticed I can't stand when people are asked a question and they answer it with yeah no. What th. Please explain???????

And the ones who "must of done xyz" instead of "must have" " or "must've". Also seen on here quite a bit is THERE instead of THEIR or even THEY'RE. There's also the Yank (and even Poms) using "they got off of the train". Ah! Grumpy old teachers!!

DH

modulus wrote:

Jay_1965vw wrote:Apostrophes and their insertion when not required is my pet hate...

Technically it should be:
Apostrophes and their insertion when not required are my pet hates...

But who wants to be a Grammar Nazi?

hth

But surely that's what this thread is all about 😂

Post in here, be prepared to have your writing criticised!

I find it amusing the amount of people who can't spell QANTAS.....they find it necessary to throw a "U" in there also QUANTAS.🙅
😂

rose wrote:If you haven't noticed I can't stand when people are asked a question and they answer it with yeah no. What th. Please explain???????

I love "yeah no".

"Yeah no" is now an accepted turn of phrase. It was accepted only a couple of weeks ago. I'll see if I can dig it up.

One word I can never spell correctly without looking it up is DIARRHOEA. Even now it took me 5 minutes to find it in the dictionary. At least it isn't a word I use in a VW club magazine very much.

Occasionally I have a mental block with little words - was it 'once apon a time' or 'once upon a time'?

Here's two annoying mistakes in one sentence: "I NEVER DONE NOTHING." And what about Jack Gibson's famous quote, 'played good, done strong'.

I really hate the former Apple Computer slogan - THINK DIFFERENT. Argh! It should be THINK DIFFERENTLY.

Lee you should be educating the Americans in proper English, not slipping into their lazy habits. Be proud of windscreen, mudguard, colour, harbour etc. And yes, there's no such word as 'compleat'!

My pet hate in words here is a strange one - "Hazard a guess"

SURLEY it is "has at a guess" or "have as a guess"

Why the hell would it be "hazard" 😠



😂 Bigger idiots out there to worry about 🙅

Bizarre wrote:My pet hate in words here is a strange one - "Hazard a guess"

Not just strange - bizarre.

To "hazard a guess" is to "risk a guess", i.e. take the risk of making a guess. "Hazard" is only used as a verb these days in exactly this construction.

hth

'Impacting'. You know what I mean. 'Having an impact' anyone?

Does anyone speak German fluently?

I am told that VW's recent slogan, 'Das Auto' (the car) should be 'Der Auto', but I haven't done German since high school so I don't know. Anyway, surely 'Volkswagen - Das Auto' should translate as 'People's Car - The Car'. That really doesn't make sense!

And apparantly ordinary Germans hate VW's previous slogan - 'Aus Liebe zum Automobil', which roughly means 'for the love of the car', as its grammar is not proper German. Is this true?

And yes I hate the way Americanism are creeping into our language, via TV, movies and sport. Since when does Ricky Ponting have to 'step up to the plate'??

The one that really pisses me off is when, as I work in retail and answer the phone a lot, is when people say "listen", as in "Yeah, listen, I'm after a blah blah".
Do they think I'm not going to listen? So now I usually interject with "Yeah, listening".

Phil74Camper wrote:Does anyone speak German fluently?

Yes; the Germans.

das Auto (but der Autobus).

How about when you have the phone stuck firmly to your ear and the first words that come out of the callers mouth are " I'm just phoning you............." makes me wonder what they may have thought I would think, maybe they are standing behind me and I just think they are on the end of phone, another one is the clasic line in an advertisement to sell a car, "yellow in colour" well yellow isn't a shape is it. Bugger, I hate being so damned perfect! 🙄

& the oldies but goodies--> VIN Number--> Vehicle identification number number

& ATM Machine--> Automatic teller machine machine

& :-)

& yeah no listen, i may have aksed this B4, butt... i really like lots of usless apostrophies & commas & full stops-n-such... sorry if it annoys anyone,,, it`s just that i like to spread my words apart so my sentences don`t flow in as one... if you know what i mean???,,,... :-)

Personal favourites are--> pat8ta & tom8ta,
:-)

Being a teacher you come across some real gems.
The problem is the influences of other "English" speaking countires. Coloqialisms appear in every new edition of dictionaries the world over. I had never heard of disoriented until I arrived in Oz some 10 years ago, I always knew disorientated as the word to use.
The one that really gets me is when someone wants to 'aks' you a question. Too American for my liking!

Yeah no listen Chester that sounds more like "axe" you a question,,, as in the "a" in your "aks" is pronounced as "aye",,, the correct termenoligy is pronounced "Arks" you a question
how many times do i need to correct you people??? :-) :-) :-)

Another is 'furtherest' when it should be 'furthest' aaaahhhhh! I know the language is always evolving but making words longer rather than shorter makes no sense.
68AutoBug Sir Isaac Walton wrote a book called 'The Compleat Angler' about 300 years ago so the word 'complete' maybe wrong now or maybe just changed so we wouldn't be like the americans.


I've just had to edit this post about 3 or 4 times because of spelling errors !!! BTW has anyone ever noticed that when an american pronounces the word 'error' or 'mirror' it suddenly becomes one syllable.

Phil74Camper wrote:One word I can never spell correctly without looking it up is DIARRHOEA. Even now it took me 5 minutes to find it in the dictionary. At least it isn't a word I use in a VW club magazine very much.

Occasionally I have a mental block with little words - was it 'once apon a time' or 'once upon a time'?

Here's two annoying mistakes in one sentence: "I NEVER DONE NOTHING." And what about Jack Gibson's famous quote, 'played good, done strong'.

I really hate the former Apple Computer slogan - THINK DIFFERENT. Argh! It should be THINK DIFFERENTLY.

Lee you should be educating the Americans in proper English, not slipping into their lazy habits. Be proud of windscreen, mudguard, colour, harbour etc. And yes, there's no such word as 'compleat'!

Phil, you could substitute DIARRHOEA with POLITICIAN if you like. Easier to spell and gives you the same feeling in your duds every time they open their mouth. 😎

DH

My pet hate is when people type or write notes as if they are texting!
it fukn shts me hps!!!! lol.🙄
There are only 5 vowels ffs!!! USE THM!!😊

Free. You can get something free, or you can get something for nothing. You cannot get something for free.

Supposedly, not supposably.

Sought after, not sort after.

Affect and effect.

Further and farther.

And LATIN spelt in lower case.

AD NAUSEUM, AD INFINITUM.

sinecure wrote:And LATIN spelt in lower case.

AD NAUSEUM, AD INFINITUM.

Don't get me started on bad Latin grammer!!!!


🤪😂

Here's a test for the budding Grammar Nazis out there:

There is three errers in this sentence. Find them!

There are three errors in this sentence, find them!

???

There are two errors in this sentence? 😂

Well thanks a lot Fahrvergnugen cost me about 3/4 of an hour following all the links on that one, now I'm late for work, bloody funny though, good to start the day off with a giggle, even better with a belly laugh.
Reckon you got it Simon, tricky one that.

trickysimon wrote:There are two errors in this sentence? 😂

Intelligent people spoil everything.

you know what i hate... 'SAME DIFF'... i hear people using this as a comeback and i just want to go over to them slap their face and tell them they are antonyms!!!!! and then calling them a YESNO!!


my 2 bob worth.....

Baja Burley,,, yeah no i know what you`re saying but can i arks you this? should it be "6 of one & half a dozen of the other",,, because it`s the "same-diff"

i just swaped the crown wheel & pinion & of course it is another centre :-)

IN2VWS wrote:.....one word often misused, that frustrates me, is 'restored'.

Restored - To bring back to an original condition.

A customised car, is not a restored car........
An example would be, a split screen kombi, that is lowered, has had an IRS conversion, painted a metallic colour and has velour seats, is not restored.
Or a beetle with a narrowed front beam and slammed, is also not restored.

Just my 2c worth.....

Fair enough, but what word would you use? These cars have often been repaired and brought back from a poor state (eg rust, dents, worn out mechanicals) so they are kind of restored in that sense. Mybe 'rebuilt'?
🙂

Things which bug me:
Unique - defined as "radically distinctive and without equal" but I have seen it written "very unique", "really unique", "one of the uniquest". Something is either unique or it isn't!!!
"To all intensive purposes" should be "to all intents and purposes".
"NOS" - I won't go there, suffice to say this is often mis-used deliberately for dishonest personal gain.
"Rarest of the rare" - I don't care, if they only made 8 because people were clever enough to realize they were crap 50 years ago does not mean they are valuable now.
"Botanical Gardens" should be Botanic Gardens
"Essaden" - the suburb and team is Essendon, there are two "n"s!
"Straya" - Australia - three or four syllables is ok, two is not.
Letter Z is pronounced "Zed" not "Zee"
"Back to back" - should use "consecutive" if there are more than 2

puck u miss.. jonah 🙂

Aluminium and alloy. These are two different things, and lets not even get started on the spelling of aluminium.

what about nrma's latest ad campaign. "unworry".


Saw a sign yesterday that read "Does your child no scripture?"

yeahno

Saw profesionaly writen sign on a shop window in Maitland "no job to small"🙄

'profesionaly writen' ???

I also hate Beetle's, Kombi's, Type 3's, Golf's and Passat's. Maybe they don't teach apostrophe rules in school any more. NO APOSTROPHE FOR PLURALS! One Kombi, two Kombis. You only use an apostrophe in the possessive sense - such as the Kombi's engine.

I don't know where the Americans got 'aluminum' from. Someone must have made a spelling error years ago, and everyone just picked up on it and used the same (wrong) spelling. We don't have magnesum, calcum, uranum, pottasum or lithum. Hang on - we do have platinum - maybe that should be 'platinium'??

Everyone says 'particuly' nowadays. It's 'particularly'.

Phil74Camper wrote:You only use an apostrophe in the possessive sense - such as the Kombi's engine.

And, of course, abbreviations, such as: it's needed here, isn't it?

And, of course, to indicate the plural of a word or symbol that does not normally make a plural, e.g. you have to watch your p's and q's when critcising others' grammar.

hth

If you say this sentence in front of a friend or familly member a few times,,, maybe it will work ,,, maybe it won`t... try it & see what reaction you get--> Fun for the whole familly :-)

"""I AM WHEAT HEARTED, I AM SOFA KING WHEAT HEARTED"""""""""

Don't know if it's been posted yet, or maybe you guys like it, but everything is now a 'nice bit of kit'. What does it mean? I know you can buy a kit or build a kit but what is 'a nice bit of kit' when talking about cars?

"I don't know where the Americans got 'aluminum' from. Someone must have made a spelling error years ago, and everyone just picked up on it and used the same (wrong) spelling. We don't have magnesum, calcum, uranum, pottasum or lithum. Hang on - we do have platinum - maybe that should be 'platinium'??"

Davy (a Pom) first called his new element 'alumium' in 1808, then changed it's name himself to 'aluminum' four years later. Americans accepted and adopted the new name, but British scientists disliked the lack of the 'ium' convention and changed it to 'aluminium' as a compromise.

Nuclear, not nuculah.

Oh, and no apostrophe of possession in "its". It's like her or his.
"The kombi had a fire in its engine bay." If you can replace it with her or his ("The kombi had a fire in her engine bay") then no apostrophe.

I hate apostrophes of possession in professional sign writing. I have semi-seriously considered writing a brochure on how to use apostrophes and mailing it to all the sign writers in the phone book...

people who "specialise" in a whole range of things

"awesome" has lost it's impact for me. I tend to think 'yeah whatever' when I hear it overused these days ... it is usually said at work as a form of positive feedback, but because it is overly used and not with the right inflection it sounds blah

I can't stand it when sporting people like cricketers, footy players and olympians are called 'heroes'. They are not heroes; they are just good at sport. Especially when they won't tour India or Pakistan because it's too dangerous, EXCEPT to make money in the IPL.

The REAL heroes are our guys and girls putting their lives on the line in the armed forces, in the Police, fire brigades and ambulance services.

Another extension on 'ITS' Jay - The Kombi had a fire in its engine bay and it's going to be mess. You do put an apostrophe in 'its' when it is short for 'it is'.

Yes, I did in the first line of that post 😉

I hate it when people use "****" cos they can't remember which swear word is appropriate for the occasion.😎

"BUGGY" "BRAD"

Bug instead of beetle 👎😁

Now is that opening a can of worms?😉

Just doing a crossword...why isn't impolite, unpolite? Where does the 'im' come from? Latin I guess? If you are uncivil why can't you be unpolite 🤪

You can be unhappy, uncooperative, unlearned, unwilling etc etc, never 'imhappy' 😁

I did get the crossword done...but it does makes you wonder sometimes

The their, there and they're one frustrates me as well as the "must of / should of" mixups.

Tollway instead of freeway. A freeway is a road free of intersections. some require tolls to be paid when used.

There is no such thing as a road that is free to drive on. Car cost, fuel, rego, licence, maintenance; all of these things cost money.
So where is the "free" in all that?

The biggest on my list is "to be perfectly honest" because unless I stipulate that; I am being less than perfectly honest.
Which is not honest is it?

This is an intersting thread and hopefully we can learn a few things from it. After alll we are all participating in a written form of communication so we might as well get the grammar and spelling as good as we can eh?

must of / should of" mixups.
Should be "must have / should have"
Car costs are just that, most of those costs would still be there regardless of wheather you are driving on a public road, a private road or across an unmade surface be it privatly owned land or publicly owned land, of course rego (sorry, registration) and a licence to drive a vehicle on public land and or roads would not always be required, therefor it is a toll road if you have to pay a special toll to use that particular road, but as our taxes already go towards paying for the upkeep of all (other?)roads, does that make them all toll roads?. Cripes, you sure have to be carefull posting an opinion in this thread.

a few from ebay that i see alot that are really pissing me off a Volkswagon beatle or bettle that also happens to be immaculant....

donn wrote:must of / should of" mixups.
Should be "must have / should have"
Car costs are just that, most of those costs would still be there regardless of wheather you are driving on a public road, a private road or across an unmade surface be it privatly owned land or publicly owned land, of course rego (sorry, registration) and a licence to drive a vehicle on public land and or roads would not always be required, therefor it is a toll road if you have to pay a special toll to use that particular road, but as our taxes already go towards paying for the upkeep of all (other?)roads, does that make them all toll roads?. Cripes, you sure have to be carefull posting an opinion in this thread.

I did put the must of and should of in inverted commers to show that I was quoting incorrect spelling.
If our taxes are paying for the roads then they still don't come "free" do they?

If our taxes are paying for the roads then they still don't come "free" do they?
but as our taxes already go towards paying for the upkeep of all (other?)roads, does that make them all toll roads?.
Correctamundo, as I saidyou sure have to be carefull posting an opinion in this thread.
and yeah, noticed that you were pointing out the incorrect word "of" so we agree on both points.😍

Have you noticed that we park on driveways, but drive on parkways?

English is a wonderful language. There's no egg in eggplant, no ham in hamburger and no pine, or apples, in pineapples. You sink slowly in quicksand. A boxing ring is square, but the building called Australia Square in Sydney, is round. You have one tooth and several teeth, so why don't you have one phone booth and several phone beeth? If the school teacher taught, why didn't the church preacher praught? If sunflower oil is made from sunflowers, and olive oil is made from olives, what is baby oil made from? Why do actors recite words in a play, but musicians play at a recital? People from Poland are called Poles, so why aren't people from Holland called Holes? Why are people who invest your money called brokers?

I think 'freeway' is free only in the sense that you don't pay a toll. The ones where you need an eTag (which I still haven't got) are invariably called 'Motorways'. Although I am fairly sure that the freeway from Heathcote to Mt Ousley was still called a 'freeway' when it used to have tollgates.

It shits me when my wife uses phrases like "Close/open the light". Damn feisty hot blooded Sicilian lover she is😉
Love her to bits but she does it to annoy me and it really works.🤓

The light bit must be a wog thing, my lady uses that term too though she's not realy a wog, claims to be but I know she was made in Australia from fully imported parts.

Spotted in a Sussex Inlet real estate catalog I saw a property that has a lot of good things going for it. To many too mention apparently,

donn wrote:The light bit must be a wog thing, my lady uses that term too though she's not realy a wog, claims to be but I know she was made in Australia from fully imported parts.

😂😂
Too true😎

Notch Nut wrote:It shits me when my wife uses phrases like "Close/open the light".

In Fijian English you "on the light" or "off the light". And you definitely "arx" a question. I don't know why.

More often than not, I'm a little off tap. Probably explains alot😂

OK these ones get me

the difference between enquiry, query, inquiry? I use the words enquiry and query a lot and wonder if I have them arse about at times

Hmmm
Enquiry is if you need an answer to a question....inquiry means the same thing? Wanting information, asking a question
...is query the same , or is it more like questioning the answer or validity of information? Questioning the information?

You go up to an information desk to make an enquiry, where as you might go up to an teacher to query their marking of an assignment which you thought was unfair? 🤓😵‍💫

Wir sind aus Deutschland zurueckgekommen, und haben ein fernseher am Flueghafen zugegueckt.... (WHOOPS!!! SORRY!!!)

We returned to Australia from Germany (after living there for 7 years), and one of the first things I see at the airport is Richard F'ING Wilkins on television interviewing Aussie Soldiers (via Satelleite naturally - they were peacekeeping on East Timor, although perhaps that should be "piece keeping" given the machete action that followed)(poor taste - it's a gift!)

So this soldier screams to his family "I love yous", and I think - yeah - I'm home again. I just assumed that Australian education may have tackled that paltry issue of "you" being plural as well as singular by now..?

My, my, my... Maybe Kevin Rudd should've used some of that stimulus package for edjumakashun???

"Yous" is one of the greatest contributions to the English language ever made by Australians, comparable in its utility to the refrigerator (also an Australian invention). Whereas all Latin languages and many others have a clear indication of the number when directly addressing third parties, in English you can say (or even yous can say) "You are fat, dumb and ugly" and it isn't clear whether you're complimenting just one of the girls at the bar or all of them.

The Americans made a weak attempt with "You all" or "Y'all", but it pales into obliquity when compared to the robust "Yous". "Yous" also has the advantage of esy incorporation into various farming jokes ("I love yous all" as the farmer said to his flock) and a famous sponsor ("I love yous all" as Jeff Fennick said to his flock).

Thank yous for you attention.

Pedagogy