who cut up their oval

hi, anyone cut up the rear of their oval to fit a bigger motor, without wrecking it and making it easy to put back to standard. .....grogy

no way my vw engine goes fast enough for an oval

that oval is really cut, i was just lookin at the rear area round tappet covers, its too narrow. i just took out a 1600 and what ajob, , just not enuf room. so if i put in something with long rods and stroke................

im putting a suby in my 36hp engine bay - maybe keep an eye on the thread to see how much cutting gets done.

link below.

I don't know what you mean there's pleanty of room my engine's been out a couple of times no worries. Just have to take the twin carbs off before.

It's just a barstard to change the spark plugs with the twin carbs.

Just keep it as it is how often would you be taking the engine in and out anyway.

Your 1600 should be just as easy to get out it's a bit of a tight fit but it's not something that you do every day.

grogy wrote:that oval is really cut, i was just lookin at the rear area round tappet covers, its too narrow. i just took out a 1600 and what ajob, , just not enuf room. so if i put in something with long rods and stroke................

one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂

you is funny
😂😂

rexy wrote:one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂

Pic of my engine bay

i only had single carb on the 1600, and i had to take off the tappet covers..... what stroke and rod length is on the motor in the pic. thanks grogy..... rexy can cut his up cause he got shed full of em

grogy,

Is this what you mean?






See the entire thread here:

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=75153

Regards,

Matt.

thanks, yea thats pretty much it, do u know what size stroke n rods that motor has. i think i'll have to completely remove the inner section where that one has the tappet covers touching.

They're not touching grogy, that's where he has cut away to get clearance. If you cut away any more than the bare minimum you will weaken the bumper support bracket.

By the way the pic is vw54's car.

Regards,

Matt.

the engine drops out under the car you don't have to take the tappet covers off to get the engine out.

maybe they all bit diff, with mine the tappet covers are hard against the inside of car the bottom studs are still slightly inside the trans, the spigot shaft is just clearing the thrust. i have to wriggle motor back, drop the jack abit and keep doin it as its hard agains the valance all the way out as i lower the jack, also putting pressure on the bottom engine studs as they havent cleared the trans. very tight fit, and thats just with a standard 1600.

its on a later pan also with irs trans, not sure if this brings the motor further back

its tight you do need some leavers that's normal

grogy wrote:maybe they all bit diff, with mine the tappet covers are hard against the inside of car the bottom studs are still slightly inside the trans, the spigot shaft is just clearing the thrust. i have to wriggle motor back, drop the jack abit and keep doin it as its hard agains the valance all the way out as i lower the jack, also putting pressure on the bottom engine studs as they havent cleared the trans. very tight fit, and thats just with a standard 1600.

I normally have to have my distributor out and fan belt off too. It just gives me a tad more room to clear the bottom case studs and spigot shaft, of course to go back that little bit you have to be on enough of an angle to be clear at the rockers.

I'm sure over time the threads of the case studs will clearance the holes in the gearbox as they always come out covered in filings. When it gets to that point I might start using nylock nuts at the bottom.

It's an adventure every time my engine comes out. Sometimes I struggle with it for ages, other times it practically falls out. Same when going back in.

I don't have any clearance cuts and it's a 1300 twinport (same dimensions as 1600) in a '61 beetle.




Regards,

Matt.

get hold of a porta power and pump out the bits that touch your rocker covers.might have alil more room for your engine

thats agood idea, but i think i have to cut away... as the rods n stroke will add about 20mm to the width . but i suppose its already on later pan, so more mods wont make a lot of diff.

rexy wrote:one of my long term projects is a 56 oval, front and rear are cut off for a baja conversion and it will also get a factory ragtop welded in, its on an irs pan, body lift kit,kombi box,raised susp and type 4 engine conversion,that shouls ster up the purists😂

Don't do that to the oval, do it to your 356 Porsche instead.🤪

I have chopped my 54 up a bit.
I asked myself the same question but my answer always came back to, why would I ever change it back. it's not like they are ever going to be worth a massive amount of money.
T54





These are getting shaped in to alloy for my injection to clear.





Tight fit but it fits

thats a nice lookin bug u got there. is your valance bolt in/out ,or still original

Heath, that air intake position worries me, i have a oberg filter mounted there and the amount of tar and small rocks and other crap built up on top of it every couple of months is my concern for you (yeah i have seen the other pics with your filter)

🤘.........oh no, you should never cut up an oval..........🥲

wow thats nearly as nice as mine

Evil photos Daimo!! 😠

well, i did the last bit...........BUT some evil man by the name of Ross Freestone took the roof skin for some "drag" car named something like "hound dog" back in the early ninties..........better hunt him down🥲

I guess we will let that one pass then ... 🥷

hellbugged wrote:🤘.........oh no, you should never cut up an oval..........🥲

atleast the parts are going to save another

unlike dropping a boulder on one for shits and giggles

One I found tonight on the net

Grogy, it is still stock. I was thinking about having it removable but I cant get registration if I do it.
The car will be 100% street driven so I need to keep it as standard to look at from the outside so I dont get picked on.
T54

hi vw54, ok.......... so they no rego if its cut off/ bolt on. where r u , im in nsw and mine not reg either, so i shouldnt cut the rear. r u guards fiberglass, hard to tell in the pics. r they standard width. thanks grogy

These guards are standard but I am going for a set of 2" wider. I am in SA and they are not kind to cutting, even a removable apron is a hassle. I am cutting large holes in the side at the back to get to sparkplugs. I am also thinking of making the little trays on each side of the engine bay removable.
Think you confused me with another forum member.
Thanks
Turbo54

u right i mixed up my vws, thanks turbo 54, i also have to say thanks to vw 54 for other advise he has given in the past as have a few members. regards grogy.

Its pretty easy to make the rear panel removable.

Just make it bolt in thru the existing guard bolts on each side. Need to make the panel have holes instead of cut outs like standard but if you are doing a resto you always have to fix the rear beaver, suggest filling ing the tailpipe cutouts and putting in a solid steel rod inside the roll as it makes it a lot stiffer once all installed.

I did it with mu old 58 Beetle and it was undetectable.

Clearance for tappet cover retaining springs can be overcome with bolt on alloy rocker covers too!

Cheers,

David

Grogy, After re-installing my box and engine agin the other night and how long it takes to do up the intake bolts I have decieded to try to get my enigineer to sign off on a complete removable rear end like 2442TT in the drag section. It is never going back to standard and I dont think it will hurt value in the long run. Also it is my car and it is what I feel is the right thing for this particular car.
There will be update in a while in my members rides section. Bolt on alloy rocker covers always leak.
T54