ian.mezz ·
so how much does a new specs twin plug steroid stan motor cost these days for those people who may want a 138hp vw motor for their bug?????
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Craigy
https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/78800/craigy
sander288 ·
Why don't you ring stan and ask, if you have the time
ian.mezz ·
i dont have a couple of hours to spare lol😂
I meant to say one one like craigs
I meant to say one one like craigs
Craig Torrens ·
ian.mezz ·
do i just ask for the 138hp special .🤪😂🤪
or is it secret squirrel stuff 😊
colonel mustard ·
Come on Ian, surely you know there are tooo many variables... yada yada :P
No one on here will give out that sort of info.... its pretty lame. It most likely because wives are watching....
No one on here will give out that sort of info.... its pretty lame. It most likely because wives are watching....
Joel ·
bah, we all know rose wears the pants 😂
rose ·
Do I wear pants? 😂😂
Yes I'm watching.
We brought a stan engine for $2300 and it came with a car, we sold the car and kept the engine. And I'm going to test it out at Warwick.
Yes I'm watching.
We brought a stan engine for $2300 and it came with a car, we sold the car and kept the engine. And I'm going to test it out at Warwick.
Joel wrote:bah, we all know rose wears the pants 😂
Joel ·
hmmm a certain valla photo comes to mind 😂rose wrote:Do I wear pants? 😂😂
rose ·
That was a long time ago lol😂
Joel wrote:hmmm a certain valla photo comes to mind 😂rose wrote:Do I wear pants? 😂😂
colonel mustard ·
You Go Rose! Take on those Men!!! 🙂 Respect!rose wrote:We brought a stan engine for $2300 and it came with a car, we sold the car and kept the engine. And I'm going to test it out at Warwick.
rose ·
And I'm also driving my oval up there so I have a spare car to race if something happens to Buz. So I will still be able to have fun all weekend. Can't wait bring on Warwick.
colonel mustard wrote:You Go Rose! Take on those Men!!! 🙂 Respect!rose wrote:We brought a stan engine for $2300 and it came with a car, we sold the car and kept the engine. And I'm going to test it out at Warwick.
cnfabo ·
last year when i spoke to stan about getting a engine built i asked a price for a twin plugged base and steroid, and my response was "WOW". i think some people will have a sad if i put the price up here thats why when they get asked they never tell you.. if i had the money i would of went down this road.. but at the time the price was to much for me... but as they say, he puts the HP were it counts....
"off subject a bit here". i found a old thread of greg wards on cal look forum, i got the empression he uses 48idfs with 36 vents, correct me if im wrong ..
"off subject a bit here". i found a old thread of greg wards on cal look forum, i got the empression he uses 48idfs with 36 vents, correct me if im wrong ..
JVLRacing ·
😂lots of popcorn yummmm
VDUBXTC ·
Why ask Craigy for a price. It wouldn't be the same price as the average joe blow would get it for would it?
dangerous ·
Forget the prices for the sterioid motor,
wheres the pics of Rose!
wheres the pics of Rose!
johny rotten ·
rose wrote:Do I wear pants? 😂😂
Yes I'm watching.
We brought a stan engine for $2300 and it came with a car, we sold the car and kept the engine. And I'm going to test it out at Warwick.
😂
Craig Torrens ·
and why wouldn't I pay the same? Stan runs a business not a charity, and I'm happy to pay like anybody else.VDUBXTC wrote:Why ask Craigy for a price. It wouldn't be the same price as the average joe blow would get it for would it?
cnfabo ·
touchy, touchy.....
reub ·
I'm with you Dave....😊dangerous wrote:Forget the prices for the sterioid motor,
wheres the pics of Rose!
VDUBXTC ·
Really?, Shit ay😊. Well good for you craigy.👍Craig Torrens wrote:and why wouldn't I pay the same? Stan runs a business not a charity, and I'm happy to pay like anybody else.VDUBXTC wrote:Why ask Craigy for a price. It wouldn't be the same price as the average joe blow would get it for would it?
pete wood ·
It's very easy to stand back froma distance and slag off Craig and Stan. It's very easy to say, "I want 138rwhp non-turbo 1916". But let's put it in perspective. Stan and Craig have been racing in the real world (not traffic light drags) for years and years now and their $$$ are backed by real titles and timesheets. If you want either of those things it costs $$$$$$$$$. Doesn't matter what motor you have in the car, anyone that wins that many titles has spent time and dollars getting their. The price Stan quotes you is for the quality he provides. Those of us who've been round a bit have realised, you get what you pay for.
And if you want to check Stans prices against a similar level of achievement ask the Penroses, the Debiasis or Dangerous what a proper 138rwhp engine would cost. I'd be surprised if it was a lot cheaper.
p.s. I don't work for or own a Pobjoy motor and probably never will, but I do respect someone who has spent so many years building some of the finest racing and street engines in the country.
And if you want to check Stans prices against a similar level of achievement ask the Penroses, the Debiasis or Dangerous what a proper 138rwhp engine would cost. I'd be surprised if it was a lot cheaper.
p.s. I don't work for or own a Pobjoy motor and probably never will, but I do respect someone who has spent so many years building some of the finest racing and street engines in the country.
Sides ·
No disrespect intended, but to find out what something costs _right_now_ isn't it polite to just ask the builder direct ???
Sure I could tell you what I paid Stan for my engine 7 years ago, but I know both his standard spec and the price of the individual components has changed since then, so it'd completely irrelevant now.
I think the story would be the same no matter who the builder/supplier is.
Sure I could tell you what I paid Stan for my engine 7 years ago, but I know both his standard spec and the price of the individual components has changed since then, so it'd completely irrelevant now.
I think the story would be the same no matter who the builder/supplier is.
ian.mezz ·
ok
I am not a vw specialist.
I am a veedub enthusiast.
I own lots of veedubs from 1200 to 1916 and Subaru powered, if someone ask me about my cars i would be happy to share what I know.
If someone doesn't like one of my cars who cares it wont worry me.
since Craig is so proud of his 138 HP motor I don't think its unusual that some one may ask how much and even what sort of stuff goes into a vw motor besides 98 fuel to get these results.
JVL what sort of pop corn you eating ,salted??😂
I am not a vw specialist.
I am a veedub enthusiast.
I own lots of veedubs from 1200 to 1916 and Subaru powered, if someone ask me about my cars i would be happy to share what I know.
If someone doesn't like one of my cars who cares it wont worry me.
since Craig is so proud of his 138 HP motor I don't think its unusual that some one may ask how much and even what sort of stuff goes into a vw motor besides 98 fuel to get these results.
JVL what sort of pop corn you eating ,salted??😂
cnfabo ·
i dont know if some of you guys took what i said the wrong way. what i ment is at the time if i had the money stan charged, i would of slapped it down on his counter no worries. i have always wanted one of his donks. still do... but i had so much other stuff to do to my car at the time so cash had to go towards that aswell... bummer for me... maybee next time....
i might be a bit behind here, but has craig packed up his vw driving hillclimb boots to drive evo's ?????oh dear,lol....
i might be a bit behind here, but has craig packed up his vw driving hillclimb boots to drive evo's ?????oh dear,lol....
Sides ·
Oh - and there's also the big rule with race cars... don't EVER add up all the bits to a know what they actually cost !!!
... and even me who doesn't have a Financial Controller looking on sticks to that one.
😉
... and even me who doesn't have a Financial Controller looking on sticks to that one.
😉
Craig Torrens ·
Castrol oil 😂😂ian.mezz wrote:what sort of stuff goes into a vw motor besides 98 fuel to get these results.
amazeer ·
Is that with single or dual port heads? Have you tried running those vortex turbine power enhancers that you can get on ebay. Are they legal for your class of racing?
pete wood ·
Amen to that brother! 😂Sides wrote:Oh - and there's also the big rule with race cars... don't EVER add up all the bits to a know what they actually cost !!!
... and even me who doesn't have a Financial Controller looking on sticks to that one.
😉
forry2000 ·
yeah craig's comments are his usual over reaction. when all else fails resort to verbal diatribe.
cnfabo wrote:touchy, touchy.....
GTMac ·
138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
Craig Torrens ·
2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400ccGTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂
squizy ·
HP = Investment / Time + Continual Improvement.
As Pete said, Craig and Stan haven't got to where they are by sitting on their asses. The figures that Craig is getting as per the equation, is by an investment into his motor combination over a period of time, and continually striving for that extra edge. That's how you get in front of the pack. When it comes to circuit racing, no one is going to give away their secrets. The tweaking that's been done is a financial investment to get to those figures, and when you're racing, you want to have more power and a better setup than your opponent. Yeah you can buy something off the shelf that will be close to Craig's, but if you want to get those figures, you're going to be up for some $$$$$$$$$.
As Pete said, Craig and Stan haven't got to where they are by sitting on their asses. The figures that Craig is getting as per the equation, is by an investment into his motor combination over a period of time, and continually striving for that extra edge. That's how you get in front of the pack. When it comes to circuit racing, no one is going to give away their secrets. The tweaking that's been done is a financial investment to get to those figures, and when you're racing, you want to have more power and a better setup than your opponent. Yeah you can buy something off the shelf that will be close to Craig's, but if you want to get those figures, you're going to be up for some $$$$$$$$$.
PAZZAN ·
EASY GUYS 130 HP = $13000.00...DON'T KNOW WHAT STAN CHARGES....OR BUY MY CAR....
PAZZAN ·
GTMac ·
Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010 if you like 😂Craig Torrens wrote:2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400ccGTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂
Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?
1303Steve ·
Hi
The 1.7 is a CAMS thing. Which still means you cant compare NA to turbo.
Steve
The 1.7 is a CAMS thing. Which still means you cant compare NA to turbo.
Steve
Craig Torrens ·
yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂GTMac wrote:Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010 if you like 😂Craig Torrens wrote:2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400ccGTMac wrote:138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 😘
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!😂
Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?
GTMac ·
yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂 [/quote]
We can do that now if you like, mine dont blow smoke! Or do Mitsubishi actually make one engine that does not blow smoke?
We can do that now if you like, mine dont blow smoke! Or do Mitsubishi actually make one engine that does not blow smoke?
spdterence ·
I love these threads - hilarious!
For me it is a fantastic thing that Stan Pobjoy has been a constant part of the VW scene for years.
He is a real character from a bygone era - he was formally trained in manufacturing - in the aviation industry no less!
Trained in an era when real standards mattered and if you got it wrong you got your arse handed to you by your supervisor.
I wonder how much real understanding is taught now - or is all 'protocol driven' CNC crap. To think your way around a problem takes real understanding - not guesswork.
I think all would be better off trying to understand how Stan does it - after all - he is still the benchmark.
This should be fun, 😂
For me it is a fantastic thing that Stan Pobjoy has been a constant part of the VW scene for years.
He is a real character from a bygone era - he was formally trained in manufacturing - in the aviation industry no less!
Trained in an era when real standards mattered and if you got it wrong you got your arse handed to you by your supervisor.
I wonder how much real understanding is taught now - or is all 'protocol driven' CNC crap. To think your way around a problem takes real understanding - not guesswork.
I think all would be better off trying to understand how Stan does it - after all - he is still the benchmark.
This should be fun, 😂
GTMac ·
Who's Stan? 😂
cnfabo ·
well said,
dangerous ·
Sigma's are cool cars.Craig Torrens wrote:yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor 😂
I did not know you were a fan of them Craig?
I'd love to get in on this discussion,
but unfortunatly I dont make anywhere near those hp/cc numbers.
Now all I have, to assist with my elevated sense of self esteem,
is my enormous genitals.😂
vassy66T1 ·
Dave you are a sick and surprisingly comic guy 👍👍👍
matberry ·
OMG
Where has this thread gone???
Com'on Muffin man.....WAKE UP
Where has this thread gone???
Com'on Muffin man.....WAKE UP
mactaylor ·
self deriding comic legend! maybe dave you should start whoring you body out. just imagine how fast your pan car would go with all the money you would be making.
JVLRacing ·
THIS is a good 😂 topic ive seen lol....Ian i have chicken salt on my popcorn thanks.....😂
Performance motor builders never give out there secrets!
Performance motor builders never give out there secrets!
colonel mustard ·
this is not, a good thread.