vw2230 路
Just wanted to know what consists of a 944 rear i have seen it a lot on here and just wanted to know what it all meant?
Aussieveedubbers 路 General Chit Chat
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STIDUB 路
the rear arms to replace the standard beetle IRS arm's adds rear discs, and about an inch wider track each side, theres 2-3 different widths though, best bet is check out the http://www.germanlook.net/html/main.php tech pages & forums to find LOADS of info on them, confusion awaits you though, alternatively, wait till 1303steve or dave carter replies since they have them 馃憤
ancientbugger 路
Would that apply to the 924 as well?
Snap Crackle Bang 路
The 924 came out with drum brakes at the back. I would not be surprised if it used the same parts as a Beetle of that era.
1303Steve 路
Hi
I think 924s had the adjustable spring plate but they use rear drums in 4x100 pattern.
You normally buy the 944 rear end as a complete unit, it just unbolts form a 944 including the torsion housing.
With a bush change and a small amount of grinding they can be fitted in to a IRS bug, the grinding is needed on the section behind the spring plate where the adjusting bolts on the 944 spring plate are located.
The two 944 rear ends that I have use 23.5 mm torsion bars which are the same as optional HD Beetle/Type 3 Wagon torsion bars, later 944s used heavier bars again
The 1985 and earlier 944s used a steel trailing arm just like a 72 and later bug, the 1986 and later 944 rear ends used an alloy trailing arm.
If you look closely at the attached photos of my sons pre 1986 944 rear end you can see the adjusting bolts on the spring plate, these adjust the height, behind theses screws you can see where the chassis needed a light grind to clear the back of the bolts.
The spring plate and trailing arm differs from a Beetle in the section where the spring plate and trailing arm bolt together, there is a blank hole, this is for toe adjustment wheel aligning the rear end, another forward mounting on the spring plate and trailing arm is a camber adjuster.
The steel 944 arms and brakes give a total of about 50 mm increase in track, the alloy arms that I have give about 85 mm increase in track, I don't know if the later alloy arms give a different track increase.
In the attached photo you can see that the spring plate retainer is alloy, this from a 944 and it had some mounting protrusion that were cut-off to fit a Beetle chassis, you can either do this or use existing Beetle spring plate retainers, on my sons car I'm also using the bonded rubber 944 outer bush and a urethane inner.
The hand brake cable need a little bit of work to fit.
Hope this helps, any question let me know,
Steve
I think 924s had the adjustable spring plate but they use rear drums in 4x100 pattern.
You normally buy the 944 rear end as a complete unit, it just unbolts form a 944 including the torsion housing.
With a bush change and a small amount of grinding they can be fitted in to a IRS bug, the grinding is needed on the section behind the spring plate where the adjusting bolts on the 944 spring plate are located.
The two 944 rear ends that I have use 23.5 mm torsion bars which are the same as optional HD Beetle/Type 3 Wagon torsion bars, later 944s used heavier bars again
The 1985 and earlier 944s used a steel trailing arm just like a 72 and later bug, the 1986 and later 944 rear ends used an alloy trailing arm.
If you look closely at the attached photos of my sons pre 1986 944 rear end you can see the adjusting bolts on the spring plate, these adjust the height, behind theses screws you can see where the chassis needed a light grind to clear the back of the bolts.
The spring plate and trailing arm differs from a Beetle in the section where the spring plate and trailing arm bolt together, there is a blank hole, this is for toe adjustment wheel aligning the rear end, another forward mounting on the spring plate and trailing arm is a camber adjuster.
The steel 944 arms and brakes give a total of about 50 mm increase in track, the alloy arms that I have give about 85 mm increase in track, I don't know if the later alloy arms give a different track increase.
In the attached photo you can see that the spring plate retainer is alloy, this from a 944 and it had some mounting protrusion that were cut-off to fit a Beetle chassis, you can either do this or use existing Beetle spring plate retainers, on my sons car I'm also using the bonded rubber 944 outer bush and a urethane inner.
The hand brake cable need a little bit of work to fit.
Hope this helps, any question let me know,
Steve
vw2230 路
thanks for all the help guys. ill pm you 1303steve when i get to that stage of my restoration
1303Steve 路
Hi
No worries, Im not far from you so you can pop over if you need to, I live in Lugarno.
Steve
No worries, Im not far from you so you can pop over if you need to, I live in Lugarno.
Steve
vw2230 路
hey thanks for the offer ill be sure to let you no know whats happening with it soon as i get some money
Travis
Travis