Apart from often changing the whole meaning of a word, incorrect spelling can make reading hard work.
The bright side is - you get the odd laugh!
Cheers,
Greg
HappyDaze ·
Aussieveedubbers · General Chit Chat
How impotent is spelling?
https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/80845/how-impotent-is-spelling
matberry ·
Well put Greg.
Alot hear carnt spel four knuts!!!! Eye saie PHUKM !
Alot hear carnt spel four knuts!!!! Eye saie PHUKM !
vw54 ·
yep iamwiht u matt phukeum the spelng
Twokombies ·
The spelling and use of punctuation on car forums is slightly worse the the fashion sense at your average swap meet IMO.
eg " I went there to see there things if I could do so while there at home."
Or it's a bit silly when you can't spell four letter words or use an apostophe in any shape or form.
Spell check isn't rocket surgery is it?
eg " I went there to see there things if I could do so while there at home."
Or it's a bit silly when you can't spell four letter words or use an apostophe in any shape or form.
Spell check isn't rocket surgery is it?
squizy ·
It's not spelling that irks me, but incorrect grammar like "I done that" and "nothink". Urgh.
Bizarre ·
I just hate everyone equally
Dont care if ya cun spell or not
Dont care if ya cun spell or not
68AutoBug ·
Twokombies wrote:The spelling and use of punctuation on car forums is slightly worse the the fashion sense at your average swap meet IMO.
eg " I went there to see there things if I could do so while there at home."
Or it's a bit silly when you can't spell four letter words or use an apostophe in any shape or form.
Spell check isn't rocket surgery is it?
EXCELLENT ...
My thoughts too....
but many people have gone thru life not being able to spell..
and now it shows.... lol
I read on a US VW forum a post by a very illiterate fellow..
how He managed to turn the computer on I don't know..
but every word was spelt incorrectly...
and He had terrible problems trying to write what He was thinking..
LEE
PS: I do use the US spelling like thru, meter, fiber, and color as I'm on US Forums a lot... Lee
matt ·
nice 1 bizzarre
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matt
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matt
donn ·
Spell check isn't rocket surgery is it?
Ho ho hoTwokombies larfed mi selv gidie
But I do think that with a bit of effort we could improve the gramar and spelling, I tend to use a different word if I think I don't know the correct spelling, but I still slip up occasionaly.
Lee, we don't live in the US of A so dump that spelling please, that's the thing that realy makes me mad.🤓
(like you would care if little old me got a dose of the crankies)
Ha, just noticed "importent"😂
Ho ho hoTwokombies larfed mi selv gidie
But I do think that with a bit of effort we could improve the gramar and spelling, I tend to use a different word if I think I don't know the correct spelling, but I still slip up occasionaly.
Lee, we don't live in the US of A so dump that spelling please, that's the thing that realy makes me mad.🤓
(like you would care if little old me got a dose of the crankies)
Ha, just noticed "importent"😂
wilderness ·
as long as we all speakin good and doin good we must be good??
Twokombies ·
It must be hard to work out if you are communicating with Americans or Australians.
PS: I do use the US spelling like thru, meter, fiber, and color as I'm on US Forums a lot... Lee
Camo ·
Guys, I understand about the spelling and how frustrating it can be for what most of us see as simple words. One of the miss spelled words that pisses me off, it the word 'off' when people only use one F. Makes all the difference.
With that said, I can overlook the spelling but the lack of punctuation gets right up my nose. You are reading through a sentence and it doesn't make any sense, then you realise(with an S) that they left out the full stop 😬
Now do we all feel better now after offloading out troubles ❓
Kev
With that said, I can overlook the spelling but the lack of punctuation gets right up my nose. You are reading through a sentence and it doesn't make any sense, then you realise(with an S) that they left out the full stop 😬
Now do we all feel better now after offloading out troubles ❓
Kev
hellbugged ·
if yuo can raed tihs, you hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.
Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
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Can you raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
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trickysimon ·
Seen that before but always good 👍
1303Steve ·
Hi
I hate when people put a long rant into one sentence without a comma, full stop etc, its really hard work to read.
I'm a dumbarse that only just got through year 10, but I try as best as can, but I use Opera as my browser which has a really good spell-checker in it.
I never thought that after leaving school that I would need to use grammar or spelling again or Algebra for that matter, then the net came along and I just had to go and get a computer and get involved.
Steve
I hate when people put a long rant into one sentence without a comma, full stop etc, its really hard work to read.
I'm a dumbarse that only just got through year 10, but I try as best as can, but I use Opera as my browser which has a really good spell-checker in it.
I never thought that after leaving school that I would need to use grammar or spelling again or Algebra for that matter, then the net came along and I just had to go and get a computer and get involved.
Steve
old bugger ·
well there are days i'm in a daze and who knows how my nose is , but i'll say no to knowing too much. no wonder i wander off too much
68AutoBug ·
Twokombies wrote:It must be hard to work out if you are communicating with Americans or Australians.
PS: I do use the US spelling like thru, meter, fiber, and color as I'm on US Forums a lot... Lee
As most of My writing is to Americians and Canadians I do use the US Spelling...
You should realize Kev that "z's" are good in the USA.. lol
and Yes, I don't know why people use of for OFF ??
and My favorite [US spelling] is there, their and they're .. lol
which most people get mixed up with or just don't know...
LEE
HappyDaze ·
Who 'corrected' my spelling, and why?
pod ·
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂HappyDaze wrote:Who 'corrected' my spelling, and why?
68AutoBug ·
I finally changed the spelling of important..
it was driving Me crazy..
Lee
it was driving Me crazy..
Lee
HappyDaze ·
Did you not think that it might have been an 'important' part of the message?
O.K., I have a strange sense of humour - can't help it!
Cheers, Greg
O.K., I have a strange sense of humour - can't help it!
Cheers, Greg
HappyDaze ·
Stop doing that!!!!!!!
68AutoBug ·
OKHappyDaze wrote:Stop doing that!!!!!!!
LEE
Bookwus ·
Hiya Lee,
It seems as though the Chicago Sun-Times newspaper tried to reform US spelling habits around the turn of the twentieth century. Readers back then were not all that well educated and the editors at the Sun-Times figured that if we make the words spell like they are sounded we can gain readership. So they set out to change the way many words were spelled in their paper. Night became "nite", through became "thru", and so on. The Sun-Times eventually gave up these spellings but we Americans are still living with the fallout of this experiment.
And I have to say that, on our own, as an entire country, we have done more than our share to mangle English. As was said by Professor Henry Higgins of Americans, "Why they don't even speak it (English) anymore!"
Hah! It might interest you to know that "thru" is not a technically acceptable American spelling. It should properly be "through". But there is an interesting story behind it.68AutoBug wrote:........ I do use the US spelling like thru, meter, fiber, and color as I'm on US Forums a lot... Lee
It seems as though the Chicago Sun-Times newspaper tried to reform US spelling habits around the turn of the twentieth century. Readers back then were not all that well educated and the editors at the Sun-Times figured that if we make the words spell like they are sounded we can gain readership. So they set out to change the way many words were spelled in their paper. Night became "nite", through became "thru", and so on. The Sun-Times eventually gave up these spellings but we Americans are still living with the fallout of this experiment.
And I have to say that, on our own, as an entire country, we have done more than our share to mangle English. As was said by Professor Henry Higgins of Americans, "Why they don't even speak it (English) anymore!"
amazeer ·
I always fix mine up if I notice I've done anything wrong because I'm OCD. I'd prefer it if people dont use SMS language when they have a full qwerty keyboard but as far as I know, this is just the internet, not a phd thesis and it doesnt matter at all.
If my wife told me I was an impotent member of the family, I'd probably not like that much though.
If my wife told me I was an impotent member of the family, I'd probably not like that much though.
greasykitchen ·
Especially those who can't work out the difference between 'to' and 'too', 'of' and 'off', 'there', 'their' and 'they're', those who don't know how to use apostrophes (especially when they write dates like 76' for 1976 - if you think you need help see http://www.apostrophe.org.uk/), those who use moronic abrieviations (such as 'deffo' and 'shizz').Bizarre wrote:I just hate everyone equally
And those who think it doesn't matter.
HappyDaze ·
Those who think it doesn't matter are, I believe, are the problem. What else do they think doesn't matter?
matberry ·
They're probably the ones that work at the vee dub shop that everyone complains about, you know, the ones that can't be bothered to return emails/ phone calls etc, or give advise when selling you those parts you order, or can't even be bothered to clean the oil strainer when changing the oil..... or......I better stop cause I could fill the page......HappyDaze wrote:What else do they think doesn't matter?
snowman9 ·
The use of grammar and syntactic elements aids communication in this "online" context -- adding credibility to one's post.
Language -- particularly the english language -- has been, and continues to be in flux.
Not all of us are writers.
Not all of us have english as a first language and a generation of those that do were done a dis-service via a curricula which didn't teach grammar.
Most are still able get their point across.
We're all into Vee Dubs. 🙂
Language -- particularly the english language -- has been, and continues to be in flux.
Not all of us are writers.
Not all of us have english as a first language and a generation of those that do were done a dis-service via a curricula which didn't teach grammar.
Most are still able get their point across.
We're all into Vee Dubs. 🙂
Twokombies ·
Too true, it is just he internet, but some pride in one's spelling is important IMO.
I suppose it's similar to people who take great delight in driving rat look cars and those who drive them without realising it.
I think that we should learn by all this writing and reading we do, like we learn a bit about our cars from sharing experiences with other dubbers.
I suppose it's similar to people who take great delight in driving rat look cars and those who drive them without realising it.
I think that we should learn by all this writing and reading we do, like we learn a bit about our cars from sharing experiences with other dubbers.
amazeer ·
OK so its the root of all evil and causes people to wear their hats backwards. What should we do about it? Maybe we should have spelling moderators whose job it is to edit every post that contains the wrong to/too/two. Or maybe we should get 3 strikes. If you make 3 spelling or grammar errors in one month your account gets locked for the rest of that month. Public stoning would be a good deterrant but not socially acceptable by the wowsers. It probably has to be a sliding scale. New forum members have to spell 100%. Because Birchall has been around the VW scene for a long time, and a forum member since the beginning he should probably get 5 strikes. Do migrants get any free hits? What about people who werent given the same chances at education? I have a mate that is great with maths and can fold a peice of sheetmetal into any shape you could imagine. Nothing wrong with his intelligence, but he has a lot of trouble reading and writing. Thats not our fault though and we shouldnt have to put up with his bad spelling. People like that should have permanent bans. How are we going to distinguish between a spelling mistake and a typo. How does an american forum member have to spell colour? The way he was taught at school or does he have to spell it our way? And what about words that are spelt correctly and and used in correct context but they arent the accepted aussie way. What if I asked for a supplier of carbon fibre fenders? What if i use a brand name to describe an item eg stanley knife, teflon tape?
if you get worked up about spelling and grammar then you are in for one hell of an unhappy life.
if you get worked up about spelling and grammar then you are in for one hell of an unhappy life.
Bookwus ·
Hiya ama,
As a teacher who worked with kids and their grammar, spelling, syntax and general English I might be suspected of having a particular point of view on this subject. And while I do have the suspected point of view, I'm not so radically entrenched as to run afoul of most of the situations you outlined in your post.
However, do consider this idea. Like it or not, when one posts a thread or submits a reply the writer is in the business of communication. Anything that gets in the way of that communication will tend to distort or make ambiguous the writer's original concern. Have you ever read a post which you had trouble deciphering? Or perhaps encountered a post which could be read more than one way? My opinion is simply that writers who let spelling or syntax get in the way of their concern are shooting themselves in their proverbial foot.
And really, with aids and tools such as spellcheckers many of us could do a better job of communicating our ideas with little extra trouble. However, as I alluded before, if what is written (even if it contains errors of various types) is generally understood by the reading audience, then there is no reason to get all distressed.
As a teacher who worked with kids and their grammar, spelling, syntax and general English I might be suspected of having a particular point of view on this subject. And while I do have the suspected point of view, I'm not so radically entrenched as to run afoul of most of the situations you outlined in your post.
However, do consider this idea. Like it or not, when one posts a thread or submits a reply the writer is in the business of communication. Anything that gets in the way of that communication will tend to distort or make ambiguous the writer's original concern. Have you ever read a post which you had trouble deciphering? Or perhaps encountered a post which could be read more than one way? My opinion is simply that writers who let spelling or syntax get in the way of their concern are shooting themselves in their proverbial foot.
And really, with aids and tools such as spellcheckers many of us could do a better job of communicating our ideas with little extra trouble. However, as I alluded before, if what is written (even if it contains errors of various types) is generally understood by the reading audience, then there is no reason to get all distressed.
donn ·
I checked back over the posts and as I see it there is noone (sorry if that's not the correct way of spelling it 😘) "worked up" over the matter, just people making a comment.
HappyDaze ·
I am staggered to see such a response to what, I thought, was a bit of a throw-away question - maybe I should have thrown it away. Obviously spelling ( along with grammar,etc,) is important, but we shouldn't let ourselves get too troubled about it. If you do you best, at whatever you do, no-one should ask for more than that!
Bloody Hell, I hope I don't make any mistookes from now on!
Cheers, Greg
Bloody Hell, I hope I don't make any mistookes from now on!
Cheers, Greg
Rawdyn ·
I agree that lazy post writing can make it difficult and annoying to read.
I always use a spell check and proof read my posts at least once.
Also, just because everyone does it, does not make it acceptable. Any wonder the English language is the hardest to learn with all of the exceptions to rules.
Anyone have any good rules? I have a good one.
Spelling of licence often tricks many people. Here is an easy way to remember.
Use the words 'advise' and 'advice' to guide you.
Advise is the verb, the thing you do. Just as license is the verb when you license someone to use your artwork.
Advice is the noun, the thing itself. Just as you have a driver's licence.
So an example in use might be;
"I licensed Steve to drive by presenting him with his driver's licence."
I always use a spell check and proof read my posts at least once.
Also, just because everyone does it, does not make it acceptable. Any wonder the English language is the hardest to learn with all of the exceptions to rules.
Anyone have any good rules? I have a good one.
Spelling of licence often tricks many people. Here is an easy way to remember.
Use the words 'advise' and 'advice' to guide you.
Advise is the verb, the thing you do. Just as license is the verb when you license someone to use your artwork.
Advice is the noun, the thing itself. Just as you have a driver's licence.
So an example in use might be;
"I licensed Steve to drive by presenting him with his driver's licence."
Twokombies ·
amazeer wrote:OK so its the root of all evil and causes people to wear their hats backwards. What should we do about it? Maybe we should have spelling moderators whose job it is to edit every post that contains the wrong to/too/two. Or maybe we should get 3 strikes. If you make 3 spelling or grammar errors in one month your account gets locked for the rest of that month. Public stoning would be a good deterrant but not socially acceptable by the wowsers. It probably has to be a sliding scale. New forum members have to spell 100%. Because Birchall has been around the VW scene for a long time, and a forum member since the beginning he should probably get 5 strikes. Do migrants get any free hits? What about people who werent given the same chances at education? I have a mate that is great with maths and can fold a peice of sheetmetal into any shape you could imagine. Nothing wrong with his intelligence, but he has a lot of trouble reading and writing. Thats not our fault though and we shouldnt have to put up with his bad spelling. People like that should have permanent bans. How are we going to distinguish between a spelling mistake and a typo. How does an american forum member have to spell colour? The way he was taught at school or does he have to spell it our way? And what about words that are spelt correctly and and used in correct context but they arent the accepted aussie way. What if I asked for a supplier of carbon fibre fenders? What if i use a brand name to describe an item eg stanley knife, teflon tape?
if you get worked up about spelling and grammar then you are in for one hell of an unhappy life.
Too true, those wowsers are a worry.
Perhaps we need a "Correct spelling and apostophe use" Forum
It would be easy to moderate as it wouldn't get many members IMO..
amazeer ·
There's a handyman guy with a professionally sign written ute running around my part of the world with "no job to small". I think he means he'll do anything from "drink your beer" to "change a tap washer".
matt ·
sounds like a good job desciption
matt
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matt
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Joel ·
i think we're all allowed some typos
i know im shocking at times but then again most of the letters have worn off my keyboard....probably a sign i type to much 🙄
the thing that bugs me is when all the myface school kid troops come on here with their leetspeak.......oh datz wut i thort wuz sik brah.....annoys the shit out of me
i know im shocking at times but then again most of the letters have worn off my keyboard....probably a sign i type to much 🙄
the thing that bugs me is when all the myface school kid troops come on here with their leetspeak.......oh datz wut i thort wuz sik brah.....annoys the shit out of me
Twokombies ·
amazeer wrote:There's a handyman guy with a professionally sign written ute running around my part of the world with "no job to small". I think he means he'll do anything from "drink your beer" to "change a tap washer".
I saw a car on the end of a rope behind another car recently, it was easy to tell they were attached as there was a sign on the back window "On Toe"
Musta hurt heaps!!!
amazeer ·
Saw this group on facebook: 🙂
'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives.
'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives.
71-BEETLE-SEDAN ·
It cant be too important because i got told that in my hsc exam i can misspell words but if the marker understands the word it okay and wouldnt loose any marks.
HappyDaze ·
I REST MY CASE !!!!!!!
Cheers, Greg
Cheers, Greg
Wannavee ·
The only thing that annoys me (especially on ebay) is when people type 'I brought it because...blah blah blah.
It's BOUGHT not BROUGHT you idiots!!!!!
It's BOUGHT not BROUGHT you idiots!!!!!
68AutoBug ·
71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:It cant be too important because i got told that in my hsc exam i can misspell words but if the marker understands the word it okay and wouldnt loose any marks.
Hi Joel, amazeer and others..
it's hard if You were good in English.. or enjoyed it... lol
"lose or loose any marks..."
"they're or their or there.. "
to or too or two...
another VERY common one... is breaks for brakes..
these are very obvious to people who know... [yes not no]
but very difficult [probably] for others...
My pet hate is the spelling or I should say NON SPELLING used on mobile phones...
all In My Humble Opinion... IMHO..
LEE
PS: Joel.. I just replaced My 12 month old dell keyboard as some of the letters had all worn off... lol
boristherat ·
Further proof that society continues on it's downward spiral. Everything is handed to everyone on a silver platter via spellcheck and soforth, but laziness is still encouraged. If our educating bodies don't care, why should students?71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:It cant be too important because i got told that in my hsc exam i can misspell words but if the marker understands the word it okay and wouldnt loose any marks.
I am no English language policeman, but do take pride in what I put my name to (even as an alias on a forum).
It is the lack of pride and carelessness that I think is the real shame.
P.S. My pet hate is "I seen a wicked slammed Beetle the other day". It is "SAW" my friends and I'm not talking 'B' grade horror flick either!
matberry ·
It is a VW forum, not an English test obviously, but the above statement is oh so true.boristherat wrote:Further proof that society continues on it's downward spiral. Everything is handed to everyone on a silver platter via spellcheck and soforth, but laziness is still encouraged. If our educating bodies don't care, why should students?71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:It cant be too important because i got told that in my hsc exam i can misspell words but if the marker understands the word it okay and wouldnt loose any marks.
I am no English language policeman, but do take pride in what I put my name to (even as an alias on a forum).
It is the lack of pride and carelessness that I think is the real shame.
P.S. My pet hate is "I seen a wicked slammed Beetle the other day". It is "SAW" my friends and I'm not talking 'B' grade horror flick either!
amazeer ·
I notice an over zealous person has "corrected" the title again, thereby missing the whole point.
cam070 ·
English and grammar are one of my pet hates. I hated it at school and failed it for the HSC, but in my opinion I can speak English just fine and write pretty well as well. I am now the chief editor of a web site that serves over a million visitors per month, how ironic is that!
So my 2c worth is that English departments need to teach English that is more relevant. Shakespeare may be intersting, but it should be optional. teach the kids real life English. In fact spellling should be high on their agenda.
And I too hate some of this abbreviated mobile phone writing. Mainly when it takes me longer to decipher it than it does to read it.
So my 2c worth is that English departments need to teach English that is more relevant. Shakespeare may be intersting, but it should be optional. teach the kids real life English. In fact spellling should be high on their agenda.
And I too hate some of this abbreviated mobile phone writing. Mainly when it takes me longer to decipher it than it does to read it.
silver ·
is that like what bees do at homecam070 wrote:Shakespeare may be intersting,
HappyDaze ·
I've fixed it again - for the umpteenth time. That's OK, at least they are awake - even if their sense of humour is lacking!amazeer wrote:I notice an over zealous person has "corrected" the title again, thereby missing the whole point.
Cheers, Greg
amazeer ·
HappyDaze ·
Gee, they're doing well - won't be long before they're exchanging whole words!
Cheers, Greg
Cheers, Greg
donn ·
Seems you'r not concentrating HappyDaze, husband and wife, wife talks, husband listens, thats not exchanging.😂🙅
matberry ·
Not exchanging, but a lesson in how to keep the piece
Sides ·
Partially off topic, but then again you can't fault the spelling !!!
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greasykitchen ·
The piece of what? Pie? Oh, peace. 😂matberry wrote:Not exchanging, but a lesson in how to keep the piece
Just teasing 😉 🤓
matberry ·
A peice of cake........
donn ·
Hmm, seems we are back to the spelling.matberry wrote:A peice of cake........
It's i before e except after c😂
amazeer ·
I'm getting you matt
matberry ·
Thanks Chris, I was wondering whether I was geting it all wrong?