Another CB on Ebay

Thanks for the Link Jace. Got an email from the seller. Its KO 770

Looks like a good starter for someone, given that I just got back from Perth - I am way over the travelling, which is probably a good thing to keep me away from the bidding button

I see it's on Bill's Register.
#219
We now know the VIN from the ad: 118310669
Also given was the motor number: F1253662
These last two bits of info aren't on The Register.

Looks to be in in pretty decent shape from what pics are shown.
We've all seen much, much worse.
3 bids as of now.
@ $2,247 AUD
Reserve not met

Regards,
Steve

Yeah it looks like a really neat unit to start with.
Looks like they have fitted a complete beetle wiper unit to the screen.

Worries me that they have recently given it a blow over in red.
Always makes me think that theres something to hide

There always is..😁 collection of rust since 1968...

Upon reflection, the rust question is a very valid one.
The ad claims no rust.....but the sloppy respray does make one wonder. It might have bee better to have left it as it was for a potential buyer to more clearly determine its condition.
To its credit it does have some original bits that aren't always there with these kinds of eBay offerings:
Original engine, 6 volt. Runs.
Detachable fibre glass roof
Clip on canvas sides (no pics offered)
Front windshield folds down
Original vinyl seats

Steering wheel looks to be original.

No movement in the bids. Wonder what the reserve is???

Regards,
Steve

Its been advertised in the Quokka the last 2 weeks for $6.5k and yes i wish it hadnt been blown over....

6,500 AUD = 5,728.09 USD
Even though the Aussie dollar has fallen a bit in the last few weeks against the US dollar, that asking price, if it is correct, may be a bit on the high side, IMO.
Even with all the original bits.
But then again maybe not.....
Since it's in WA, it might be a tougher sell than in southern or eastern areas of Oz.
I doubt it would go for that asking price on eBay....

Oh, the unknowns of selling a 41 year old vehicle with very low production numbers......
😁🙂
It will be interesting to see what develops.

One day to run and bidding has moved along to $4010. Would expect this might almost meet the asking price of the vehicle on Quokka. The key would be viewing the vehicle and seeing what is was like under the red top coat.
The originality surprises me, even down to motor, seats, and pan. I can see no front bar , different wiper set up and no rear tray. There only looks to be two serios and frequent bidders at the moment. Lets see what it ends up like.
countrybuggbill

With a little under eleven hours for the auction to run, looks like a couple of new bidders have jumped into the fray.
Bidding now at $4,550 AUD.
The bids have definitely has gone up, the question is whether the bidders will meet or exceed the reserve before the auction ends.
It could happen if two determined people get caught up in a last hour bidding war.
I'd be surprised to see that happen.

cb john wrote:There always is..😁 collection of rust since 1968...

yeah but at least its original and not a repro one 😂😂

rnrnyeah but at least its original and not a repro one

It's a matter of opinion...😂

I prefer clean, rustfree, well performing CB a lot more than a poorly restored original rustbucket on original running gear....but as I said, matter of opinion...

It didn't sell in the auction.
Reserve not met.
High bid $4,950.00 AUD

So what happens there?

Was anyone here bidding on it, or heard from the guy?

I know someone who spoke with the owner. It sounded as though he would let the vehicle go to the highest bidder if it got close to the reserve and I reckon at $4950 it should have been close. I see the owner is also selling a ex PMG splitty and a Trakka Camper as he is over his involvement with VWs.
Be interesting to see if the vehicle changes hands. I think it will.If anyone hears the outcome can they let me know so I can update the Register.
countrybuggybill.

Not going to change hands at this price.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-Country-Buggy-1968_W0QQitemZ280464462717QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item414cfc137d

Maybe the owner has another CB they are throwing into the deal.

Have never seen a CB achieve this price yet but I wait with anticipation

countrybuggybill

Yes it's relisted, but I don't understand the reasoning for the new price.
If it didn't sell in the previous auction for $4950 (with a speculated $6,500 threshold), what makes the seller think he's gonna get $13,500 for it in a "buy it now" auction?
The remoteness of the location in WA doesn't help his prospects, IMO
If it were located in VIC, NSW, or QLD, he might have a chance of unloading it, but at the listed price, it's a real long shot.
I know there's record drought in Oz, but I doubt if the heavens are going to suddenly open up and pour big bucks on KO 770.
Cheers to wishful thinking....

It did sell post auction for his asking price.........................................then he renegged on the deal and relisted it

Only a few hours before the listing he was still saying deal was done

tell him he's dreaming, $13500 unlicenced and a dodgy paint job? he's also re-listed the split ute $16500 unlicenced and in lots of bits, at $30K the pair he hasn't lost that much interest in VW's, and he will have paid bugger all a few years ago! just my 2cents.

pure greed, just a thought, he had the buggy advertised in the paper about $6500, if he's been offered $13000 by a scammer, he possibly thinks thats what he can sell it for.

The seller has closed the second ad for this CB and posted a new ad.
http://cgi.ebay.com/VW-Country-Buggy-1968_W0QQitemZ280465137046QQihZ018QQcategoryZ101895QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m444QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DCRX%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D2%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7835555415797149834

This time it has a starting bidding price of $19.99 AUD.
It still has the $13,500 "Buy It Now" option.
I guess if you try every angle, maybe something might get flushed out.
I still see no way this is going to sell for $13,500, even with transportation to Melbourne offered as a carrot by the seller.

From now talking to some people who have tried to deal with him in the past or who know him have told me he is a very unscrupulous person.
Extremely nice and freindly on the phone but apparently quite often renegs on deals or changes his "Mind" 🙄
Apparently cleaned out Tasmania of many dubs?

Well it looks like Mr Greedy has removed the item yet again 🙅

And yet another price change.😂

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-Country-Buggy-1968_W0QQitemZ280465220239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item414d07a28f

This guy just gets dodgier by the minute 🤪

i bet he's reading this lot, looking at the comments and changing things accordingly.

mate, loose the greed gain the trust, you have alot of hits cos people are curious of what you are doing next, not cos they are going to bid!

This guy has a problem to understand the difference between except and accept....

Watching everything with great interest.
Not a bidder, never have been and never will be.
I think CJ John's comment could be right on the money, more so than the current asking price

countrybuggybill

All these different listings for the same vehicle, and the seller's handling of them, is puzzling at best.

i bet he's reading this lot, looking at the comments and changing things accordingly

I imagine this is true, but a review of the seller's eBay profile reveals he is inexperienced at selling.....at least on eBay.
eBay sales transactions: 0
Positive feedback: 0
Feedback score: 0
He is obviously using eBay to expand his market of potential buyers. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. One can assume the demand or even casual interest in WA is very limited. So why not give eBay a try, right? If the seller is reading this thread, he's not taking what is being said into account. If anything, he's ignoring advice and is heading in the other direction.

The wacky movement and incomprehensible pricing in all these ads, leaves one wondering if the seller truly has a grasp of what he is doing and what the marketplace is telling him.
From responses to the first auction, the market was telling him $4,950 was the ceiling as of now (that could change in the future, either up or down).
So, a new ad appears with BIN pricing set at nearly three times the highest bid in the original auction. I guess there's always hope that a new school of fish will swim by and take the bait, but given CB's are not well known generally outside (or even within) VW enthusiasts groups, he is fishing in depleted waters.
We have also seen a change in the starting bids. We go from a $19.99 AUD (the price of a fairly reasonable meal) to $11,000 AUD (perhaps an amount borrowed for a small business loan to met payroll and stock inventory). Huh? What happened here? A pre night on the town price as opposed to a morning after price after waking up with a killer hangover? Makes no sense to me, and obviously about everyone here agrees.

Positives about this CB:
1. Lots of original equipment.
2. It appears a good starting point for a restoration.
3. Seller offering to cover freight to Melbourne.

Negatives about this CB:
1. Not so well done spray over (obviously masking was not considered important). Probably would have been better to offer as it was before the expense and time to repaint.
2. Remaining questions about rust given #1, despite claims in ad.
3. Remote location which makes pre sale examination difficult if not impossible, even for most prospective Aussie buyers. Perth is supposedly the most remote capital city in the world.....and Geraldton is 430 km from there. (Here in the States we would say it is a "fur piece down the road".)
4. Fairly high mileage.
5. Revolving door of new ads and auctions with different pricing and starting bids.

Obviously every seller wants to maximize their return. That's reasonable and expected. Every potential buyer is looking for a decent price, hopefully as low as possible. That's normal too. A sale occurs (or will occur) when there is a meeting of the minds about what is a fair value. I don't think we're anywhere near that at this point in time. If what was offered in the first auction was not acceptable to the seller, then maybe he should put this vehicle on ice for a while.....maybe something will change down the line.

For something in the $13,500 range I would expect a flawless example of a CB. As I recall, Greg Cash's (volma1) CB in Tasmania sold for somewhere between $10,000-12,000. Greg's car was very, very nice. The Geraldton CB is a long way from that, even though it has good potential. A complete restoration on top of the seller's price demands, will scare all but a few brave souls away from considering this vehicle for purchase. The market will dictate what this CB is worth, and right now there is a very wide chasm between the market and the seller.
I predict this isn't going to move a bit at the asking price.
C'est la vie.

Regards,
Steve

to some-one who really wants one might be worth a fair price, not sure that hiis asking price is very fair though.

but you'd have to see it in person first to determine cars' underlying condition.

Ok after reading Ztnoo's post i can tell you he was contacted post first auction, was asked how much he wanted for the car and no haggling a deal was done.
After 5 days waiting for bank details and a couple of phone calls being polite and not wanting to be pushy due to the fact he was supposedly to ill to talk on the phone.
Next thing you know its relisted and said buyer was told not to try and contact him or police will be called in because he was being deceitful............WTF?
So your paid the price you want, and then you reneg on the deal, but your the one being deceived...................please

Trust me the guy is a liar period

I would be very wary of buying it as his story changed twice during conversation as to how the rust was "repaired" and then he started to tell of patches in the floor having plate welded clean over the hole.

Liar liar pants on fire

and it changes once again.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-Country-Buggy-1968_W0QQitemZ280465220239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Cars?hash=item414d07a28f

The journey continues.....
Yes, with 24 hours left to run in the auction the price is now $11,500 with a starting bid of $9,750.
My thought is, even if someone were truly interested in this CB, why bid now?
There might be an 18, 12, 6, and 1 hour to go in the action price forthcoming.
😵‍💫😉

By the time it is all said and done, that $4,950 bid in the first auction might look pretty good to the seller.
C'est la vie.

Not surprisingly, this listing has ended, with no bids offered.

Here we go again give it a couple of weeks 😂

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-Country-Buggy-1968_W0QQitemZ280468001474QQcategoryZ101895QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63

he strikes me as the kind of guy whos offered $5k, but wants $6k, he's offered $6k, now wants $7k, etc etc, he'll never sell, he's tired of vw's, but not tired of messing people (and his own mind) around!!

The auction has ended with no sale @ $8,500.
It may be time to give it a rest for a while.

A new coat of paint, maybe Savannah Beige , a new Ebay username and a new approach might see things change for the better.
countrybuggybill

Or maybe he should honour the deal he made and sell it for his actual asking price 😬

He says it sold this time
Didn't get a bid so either sold after auction or he's a lying snake in the grass, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lets see now 🙄

And its up for sale again on here 🤪

Yet another blind faced lie from this guy

Would reallt fill you with confidence to drive all the way out there only to have him change his mind yet again!

Any of this sound Familiar John??

(Im referring to the seller of the car)