my restorer & good friend has been caught out with this purchase of a so called restored split singlecab & i have his blessing in warning anyone who buys without visual inspection
this is a crossmember that moves from just grabbing by hand
jacking point weld has not taken to the chassis
a jacking point with only a tack to hold it
this is about the best weld, mate you are blind
this irs conversion & close up of weld which has to take a lot of weight
this is good, a screw held a jacking point in place so its been drilled out & welded it up the way it should be (drilled out screw in circle)
bajachris88 ·
yea i been in the same predicament. Its a terrible feeling. 🙁 Was a while back now... Again, car long distance, got photos and details, sent money, car delivered and eek!
But i bet this guy paid more for his than i did for mine, being a split. he has my sympathy.
winerot ·
the singlecab as is
Schmoburger ·
Just for the record, the moron responsible for this excuse for workmanship is the artist known on a number of Australian VW forums as " pm for name.
As Wally mentioned already, this guy is a repeat offender.
I suspect this post will be removed in a pretty short space of time, and I might even get in a bit of shit from the mods, or get banned... but hey... if it stops somebody from being killed by a supposedly "restored" car that is about as safe as a rusty guillotine in a cell at the nuthouse, then it'll be worth the banning...
DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM this person!!! edited by barls.
if you really want to know who it is i suggest you pm ether winerot or schoburger
Pumba ·
I have just been reading a little about hes(*******) handy work on another forum 👎🙅
Nickster ·
on a positive note those splitties are gorgeous! 👍
All air cooled VW's deserve top notch workmanship and plenty of lurve 😍 Hack it, patch it and flog it morons are idiots and need to be shown the light!! 😬
Phil74Camper ·
Unfortunately, with the big money that split Kombis bring nowadays, the cowboys are attracted and come out of the woodwork.
The same thing happened many years ago with the 'chop top' craze. A few well-made conversions were quickly followed by hundreds of cheap backyard jobs that ruined many Beetles. Eventually the craze died out and they moved on to something else (ricers I hope). Now it looks like they're back with VWs - watch out.
13bwagon ·
did he used to be a member here??
some on pm me his name
kombibob ·
yep we bought a karmann ghia off him a few years ago, he said it was in good condition bugger all rust etc, and he lied about all the questions we asked him on the phone.
it arrived with a fiber glass pan and more bog than steel, sills full of newspaper etc, we had to do a lot of welding just to be able to sell it at a loss.
STIDUB ·
welding looks like a 1/2 blind 1st year apprentice with a mig & stick welder with drunken shakes from a big weekend on the piss, some people have no morals👎
67panel ·
He's not just buying and selling kombis - there is a beetle for sale on here too. Follow the 'signs' and you will work out which one. Haven't had a good look at it and it may be good - but if you are buying it better have a really good look based on history.
Another split ute went to a user called 'animal' who also was very unhappy with the description and the difference with the condition when it arrived. How many is that 4?
donn ·
Class action ???
forry2000 ·
buyer beware
winerot ·
the second pic shows where the steering box bolts
on now if that lasted a year it would be a miracle
winerot ·
the second pic shows where the shocky bolts to
pray you never hit a pot hole.
winerot ·
god forbid, after the checkerplate was removed a few weeks ago & all the welds or socalled welds were spotted
inspected the welds of the front sill,the doglegs & the floor from under, he then proceeded to sandblast the seams hidden with paint & bog to easily show whats there
winerot ·
it sold & told as a fully restored singlecab on ebay.
donn ·
Unlicenced vehicle trader? dob the mongrel in!
Uber Kafer ·
It just shows how screwed up this world has become. You cant even put a photo on a website with the repairers name. Surely thats not slander or libel. Its a fact. ( this is not a criticism of the moderators, just the rules that have evolved)
Some of those welding repairs would result in prosecution if the owners lodged a formal complaint.
Wannavee ·
From what I am told, you only need a traders license if you sell more than 6 vehicles per year
matberry ·
I've seen this sort of crap workmanship on professional repairs and restorations for years. It happens all over the globe. Unfortunately poor panel work is very easy to hide. It makes those that do a good job that much more worthy of the money they earn.
winerot ·
very true matberry.
Beerboy ·
I am a little confused did steve do the blasting on the bodge one then. I can't understand that you would blast it all and then not be able to weld it properly if you have a welder in your hand and clean metal. Also the picture with the screw circled you should probably point out that that is steves good weld. am I right. I.e is even and has good penetration
winerot ·
sorry beerboy i will clear it up & explain the pics above
Joel ·
My god he's like an aussie mario
vanderaj ·
Although it would be nice to name and shame, the reality of Australian defamation law is that is a very slow way to throw away $100k or more in legal fees and more in damages.
Truth is a partial defense, but ... it's going to cost YOU $$$$$$ to prove it. And if you don't prove it, it's fairly obvious from the above posts that you intended and knew that this set of posts would harm the other person. That's the entire point of writing this sort of thread.
If we had a way of rating members, that is not defamatory as eBay has gotten away with it for years, but we don't, so we can't slag off anyone, members or not.
It'll end in tears. If names or more hints come out, this thread and any like it will have to go.
thanks,
Andrew
13bwagon ·
spot on amdin
but karma is a b*tch
Scarab ·
Not wanting to stir the pot, but surely this sort of vehicle, even in the state it is in, would command a reasonable high price. Who spends that sort of cash without inspecting it, or at least having someone you trust inspect it. I dont think that the whole responsibility lies on the seller. If this man restores these vehicles for a living, and he hasn't fully done his homework when making a purchase, he only has himself to blame! Perhaps even requesting numerous detailed photos would have been a good idea....did he do this before purchasing??
As the title of this thread says "buyer beware".....it does seem strange that the actual owner of this vehicle hasnt said a thing about it on here....maybe the deal he got wasn't that bad afterall.....
Just my 2 cents worth....
Scarab (aka: Paul)
Dyno ·
Scarab wrote:Not wanting to stir the pot, but surely this sort of vehicle, even in the state it is in, would command a reasonable high price. Who spends that sort of cash without inspecting it, or at least having someone you trust inspect it. I dont think that the whole responsibility lies on the seller. If this man restores these vehicles for a living, and he hasn't fully done his homework when making a purchase, he only has himself to blame! Perhaps even requesting numerous detailed photos would have been a good idea....did he do this before purchasing??
As the title of this thread says "buyer beware".....it does seem strange that the actual owner of this vehicle hasnt said a thing about it on here....maybe the deal he got wasn't that bad afterall.....
Just my 2 cents worth....
Scarab (aka: Paul)
In my opinion knowingly selling a structurally unsafe car would not be viewed all that well either if it were to be taken further... Thats my 2 cents worth.
johnharte ·
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Scarab wrote:Who spends that sort of cash without inspecting it, or at least having someone you trust inspect it. I dont think that the whole responsibility lies on the seller.....did he do this before purchasing??
I assume your friends with the seller then?
I dont think its a case of 'Buyer Beware' - You need to do your homework...
Its more of a case:
'Buyer Beware' - There are vehicles which could mame or kill...
Where is the sellers response in all this?
Scarab ·
sorry you see it that way....but there are two sides to every story....
I wasnt trying to offend anyone, and certainly dont appreciate being called a moron for trying to take on both sides of this story.
so sad that it comes down to name calling....aren't I entitled to an opinion like everyone else?
Paul
ryana89 ·
🙄
Craig Torrens ·
How much did the buyer pay for this vehicle ?
Scarab ·
🙅
very mature vw mad....I actually stopped name calling etc. in primary school.....you might too when you finally graduate.
I totally agree with Johnharte that there are vehicles out there that maim and could kill....surely that is all the more reason to make an inspection....isnt it?? I do know the seller, and have had nothing but good dealings with him. I do feel sorry for the purchaser....but as was said earlier "buyer beware"....but obviously no-one feels that there is any responsibility to be placed on the purchaser at all.....
Paul
barls ·
ok settle down all otherwise the thread disappears.
johnharte ·
Paul,
How much was the van sold for?
I really think your missing the point here - The van was sold as restored... The pictures show some shocking attempts at welding which could have had deire consequences on someone...
If it was NOT sold as restored - and as 'Sold as Seen' which is what usually happens with cars at the lower end of scale you could have a valid point..
John
Scarab ·
Fair point.
I dont know anything about what it was sold for etc. but assume it was a fair bundle of cash.
Paul
Craig Torrens ·
so why was a restorer buying an advertised 'restored' vehicle ?
Pumba ·
Why does a bear shit in the woods ?????
Craig Torrens ·
because it needed to go to the toilet, and that is where it usually goes 😁
Dyno ·
The pigeons were circling when that car got welded.🤪..... pitiful...... I wonder if this chap has club rego on his Type 3??? I wonder how compliant it is??
Scarab ·
hope you arent referring to my type 3!!!....because that has nothing at all to do with this discussion.
and for the record....I AM NOT THE SELLER!!!
As I have said earlier, I know NOTHING about this deal at all, and was only trying to view both sides of the story.
sorry for having an opinion
Paul
Craig Torrens ·
Ah well.........at least its getting restored properly now 👍
Scarab ·
here, here! good to see another VW being looked after correctly!
Paul
dogo ·
I wonder how many other cars out there would look like this if we hit them with a sandblaster?
Dave
matberry ·
dogo wrote:I wonder how many other cars out there would look like this if we hit them with a sandblaster?
Dave
x2
This is so true it's not funny.
Aspro ·
The blokes a jerk, there's no doubt about it.
But, this all goes back to the golden rule of buying a used VW.
NEVER BUY A CAR UNSEEN.
Hate to see a good bloke go down like this, but I hope we've all learnt a valuble lesson.
devon57 ·
Hey Wal, thanks for posting this thread as you may and i say MAY save someones life❗❗
SPRINTSTAR ·
Don't worry guys, Karma is a bitch, bites back 3 times harder!
devon57 ·
SPRINTSTAR wrote:Don't worry guys, Karma is a bitch, bites back 3 times harder!
Can only hope so!!
Schmoburger ·
matberry wrote:
dogo wrote:I wonder how many other cars out there would look like this if we hit them with a sandblaster?
Dave
x2
This is so true it's not funny.
Some of the things I've pulled out of Kombi's that I've wrecked over the years would make your hair stand on end... newspaper, sandpaper, chewing gum, timber offcuts, chickenwire.... and the list goes on! One bay I bought for peanuts had a slab of bog that I rippped out of the right hand side that was over an inch thick and about 5 inches high, and almost 2ft long... and there was no metal at all on the other side of it... I could see through into the cargo floor, above and below!!!🙅 Scary part is that this one had been registered 3 years prior... but there was about 10 years worth of rot and a metric assload of bog in the windscreen pillars, and the welds at the front of the Y-members were both rustedright off...
ANother one had the rotting remains of a plank of wood secured to the remaining metal above the sills with chook wire and had it bogged over... I came across it after I pulled out the cabinetry....
matberry ·
Pfft.....bog ONLY an inch thick???
I've seen "restored" Karmann Ghias with more than that, both in the sides AND on the nose (so to speak lol).
Also an early beetle comes to mind that I repaired in the 80's that had lead wiped repairs in the A pillar, 'great' I hear you say.... but there was so much heat used putting in the lead that the pillar was totally gone from the rust that developed under the lead.....
Joel ·
some people have no shame
Believe me they're out there 🤪
Wannavee ·
Holy crap! man thats some bog work.
Schmoburger ·
Hooooooly dickcheese!... I hope he wasn't running the standard 1100 in that barney... not a chance of taking a hill with all the bog weighing it down! 😂
Cripes, ya gotta wonder how much extra these clowns actually spend on bog to fill this crap up vs what it'd cost to do it properly... not to mention labor involved in bodging it. I imagng as far as materials goes it'd be much the same either way.
Hell, I know I find it a shitload easier to just cut a rusty old chunk of metal out and cut out a new bit to weld in than tryibg to fartass around with bog... a lot less messy too, and the satisfaction of a job done right. 👍
