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Renault UN5 - anyone know anywhere that does a plate diff?

https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/84329/renault-un5-anyone-know-anywhere-that-does-a-plate-diff

PhillipM 路

Hi all, newbie here from the UK, we've got a VW-based buggy running a UN5 transaxle, and have been desperately searching for a LSD in the quest for more traction.
Unfortunately the only thing we've found so far is a quaiffe ATB unit, which we're not keen on for off road use, I'd prefer a plate setup.

Anyway, I thought I'd seek out you lot down under in the hope that there was a solution somewhere, as every time I go hunting for a UN5 for spares these days all I get is:

"Sorry mate, some Australian bloke from Albins came around with a van and bought all the ones we had for the casings..."

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Baja Wes 路

then you want to contact these guys;
http://www.albinsgear.com.au/

PhillipM 路

I've been in touch, sounds like they're planning to stock the quaiffe setups but couldn't help with a plate diff,

psimitar 路

Go overseas. Oz is small in it's VW scene and the UK and USA may be more forth coming with any inside knowledge

PhillipM 路

USA don't tend to use 'em, and there's only us using them over here in the UK.
French use them a lot but their courses are a lot drier and faster so they get away with just using the quaiffe atb.

OZ Towdster 路

Why not try just shimming up your stock diff tighter

PhillipM 路

'Cause it won't have much effect bar destroying the diff at high rpms...

dangerous 路

I am not sure how far you budget extends,
but Guard Transmissions in the USA make both clutch type, and torque biasing diffs for Porsche,
so could easily adapt the internls into a carrier that will fit your ring gear.

Albins here could do the same, possiby using a GM or Ford clutch pack...or what ever you find!

PhillipM 路

It's a bit of a scrapyard build so we were hoping to find an off the shelf one - I can have one built specially over here but it'd be about $2000...

bnicho 路

You could try the Aussie French car forums, Renault section?

http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13

Cheers,

PhillipM 路

Right, I've bit the bullet and got Gripper in the UK to adapt their UN1 diff to fit, I've supplied them with a gearbox for working from, however, if anyone knows someone running the Renault in a rail /buggy/etc and wanting a plate diff, we need some more people to make it commercially viable for them, albins might be interested in a few and there's a few french cars from the rallyes tt showing an interest so were getting there...

psimitar 路

What about the converted Subie gearboxes you can get now? Will they do the job?

ttriebler 路

Interestingly I just picked up a used plated LSD diff for my reversed Subie box today ... and it's much less than $2000 !!! Also have a torsen LSD diff centre for Subie box as well that I purchased a few weeks ago.

Going to test both of them in our new turbo test box and see what we think. Road use and sand use. This way we'll have real-world data on how well they work in different terrain.
I suspect that Torsen will be preferred for mostly road work and clutch type for mostly sand work. Both are available as factory or aftermarket items, around $1300 new.

Anyway, good luck with your UN5 setup, I hope you get what you need.