Well as stated above..
What additive do you add to petrol ??
Just got my new 1600 twin carb and wanted to know what you guys add to the normal unleaded..
I've been running just normal unleaded yesterday and a little this morning but want to get ontop of it ASAP.
None, as it is not needed 98 ron is all you need
but if you like parting with money go for it
Sides ·
I use 98 RON fuel, then all I add is some air and a spark
😉
vicelore ·
Geeze never even seen this part of the forum and its like a additive and no addative fight.. thaught there was going to be a simple answer to this question..
From what iv seen in the past 5 mins.. 98 and a additive would be the go ?
Cheers Vice
barls ·
its 98 and an additive for me all the way. hell its saved my engine once already as it was running very lean at one stage.
SuperOwen ·
I personally dont bother with an additive, but from previous experience flashlube will help with valve guide life.
Joel ·
makes me laugh the way people piss their money away with additives
what hardly anyone realises is USA has not had leaded fuel since the late 60s/early 70s so alll vw twin port heads were made at the factory to run on regular unleaded
Only time its an issue is if the heads were rebuilt at some stage with very low grade seats which generally isnt the case
if it makes you sleep easier put the additives in but if your cooling system is all in check, timings right and carb's sweet a stock motor will be happy on reg unleaded.
My first original 1600 which i built over 12 years ago now has done 60,000+kms as speedo cable was snapped for about 6 months and has only run on straight unleaded except when it was supercharged then i ran 95 in it and it still has perfect compression and runs beautifully.
thats a stock motor though, anything better run premuim but fact remains due to it being a slower burn you need to set the time to suit otherwise its gonna run like crap
68AutoBug ·
vicelore wrote:Hey guys.
Well as stated above.. What addative do you add to petrol ?? Just got my new 1600 twin carb and wanted to know what you guys add to the normal unleaded.. Iv been running just normal unleaded yesterday and a little this morning but want to get ontop of it ASAP.
Cheers Vice
Normal unleaded is being phased out very fast..
what was known as E10 is now being labelled as Unleaded + Ethanol
and My standard beetle engine doesn't like the BP product..
There are some Shell servos in NSW still selling "normal" unleaded which is what I've been running in My beetle..
I have never used an additive for valve lubrication...
I know many VW owners do... and it can't hurt..
as Lead was a lubricant back in the Leaded fuel days..
so, I would agree that a valve lubricant can't be bad when using ethanol petrol...
LEE
PS: Ethanol is not available in some states of the US...
and it was illegal in Western Australia last time i looked. Lee
ancientbugger ·
Inside my fuel flap it says to use 91 oct Ron, now I have no idea who Ron is or even if he once owned my car but I generally just use regular unleaded!😎
vlad01 ·
RON= research octane rating.
dummy terms just octane rating. Unleaded is 91 ron, but it does vary from pump to pump depending on age and quality of the fuel being sold.
I use premium which is 95 to be on the safe side.
jjwebb123 ·
thats interesting....good thread.
i use 98 ron and additive.I like lubed valves.lol
beetleboyjeff ·
I mostly use flashlube - just from a 'windex' type squirt bottle - one squirt per L works about right - and mostly 95ron but sometimes (again, mainly on the highway) 98ron.
I don't worry so much around town, but if I am working it hard (like on the highway - especially with the trailer full of tools on), I make sure I use it.
I find the higher octane gets much better mileage on the highway, but doesn't make much difference around town.
68AutoBug ·
ancientbugger wrote:Inside my fuel flap it says to use 91 oct Ron, now I have no idea who Ron is or even if he once owned my car but I generally just use regular unleaded!😎
unleaded is now 91 Ron... or octane rating
it used to be around 89 ron.. which is NOT enough for a beetle.
I was always going to fill My tank 3/4 full then top up with 95 Ron or octane.. but never did,.. lol
but I used 95 or 98 for a few years... then found 91 ron was OK
until they added Ethanol to it...
so, its back to 95 Premium...
LEE
barls ·
the old super use to be 96 ron so you do the figures
vlad01 ·
it was 97 ron at the mobil in my town. 96 ron was the lead replacement fuel they sold for only about a year and a half. then it was replaced completely by 91 ulp 😬
x2!,It is certainly worth it just for your peace of mind as you don't know until it is too late.
ancientbugger ·
Mine also says 'Unleaded' but it is a very late model with factory FI and BTW the RON remark was actually a joke. Sorry if you missed it.
vicelore ·
Well i baught a bottle of the flash lube. i wont be using the kit i was thinking i might just have one of the little squirt bottles in the boot and give it 30-40 ml before i fill up a tank of premium 98 ... That should be ok yea ?
Cheers Vice..
barls ·
yeah thats fine
vicelore ·
Cheers man.. Now to use up the tank of normal ULP i put in yesterday...
Vicelore.
jjwebb123 ·
yeh thats exactly what i do mate.Although now that im on apprentice wages
i might have to occasionally change back to normal unleaded instead of premium
im not sure about else where but it is marginally dearer here.
but its all good.
vicelore ·
Cool cool..
Cheers Vice
turbobeetz ·
I use 95 or 98 RON straight without any problems...if I am feeling cheap 91 RON with some flash lube.😂
Uber Kafer ·
Vicelore, best if you read the instructions for the FlashLube, you will probably find that the mix ratio is 1ml per litre. Otherwise you are wasting it.
68AutoBug ·
turbobeetz wrote:I use 95 or 98 RON straight without any problems...if I am feeling cheap 91 RON with some flash lube.😂
If its 91 RON Without Bio or ethanol....
GREAT
but ethanol is another problem....
shop about, the smaller servos still have NON ethanol unleaded
and I now use FLASHLUBE in My fuel...
LEE
68AutoBug ·
jjwebb123 wrote:yeh thats exactly what i do mate.
Although now that im on apprentice wages
i might have to occasionally change back to normal unleaded instead of premium
im not sure about else where but it is marginally dearer here.
but its all good.
Same here with 95 or 98... EXPENSIVE..
one day it was $1-46 for 95 Shell... YIKES...
Now there is still a very small servo in Town with the original NON ethanol unleaded.... $1-28 a liitre..
so that is what I'm using with FlashLube..
ethanol 91 RON was only $1-14 a litre in Newcastle during the week.... in the Suzuki swift...
LEE
vwo60 ·
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, run the flash lube, i know it works, both of the engines in my cars have had hardly any wear on the valve guides or seats when they were stripped down.
baghall ·
I run 95 RON + additive. But I was told that ethanol will destroy older fuel systems over time due to being more corrosive, so I only use it under extreme circumstances (ie nothing else available). By the way, is this correct?
johnl ·
I too would like to know this baghall. A mate of mine was over on the weekend and asked what fuel I used in the wifes VW. I told him the cheap stuff and he suggested that I use the more premium fuel for the very reason that the ethanol corrodes the fuel lines, etc on older cars. Any educated opinions?
vlad01 ·
ethanol doesn't corrode anything in a car. just marketing bs to get you to buy more fuel from the oil companys.
The only problem with it in cars like these is the carbs aren't jetted for the slightly lower energy density. EFI is fine for ethanol.
95 premium is all you need for your dub, nothing else.
barls ·
actually vlad i think you will find that some of the components in the system arent ethanol safe, like rubber hoses and some parts in the carby.