The broke NSW government is about to introduce mobile speed cameras, al-la Victoria.
So we will all be driving around with our eyes on the speedo and not on the road and having nose 2 tail crashes, they've going to also drop amount of grace given to being just over the limit, they can make more money that way.
I've noticed quiet a few cars with what appears to be a film over the number plate, that at certain angle the writing on the number plate disappears.
Does anybody know where you can get this coating or film?
Steve
Craig Torrens 路
just use stolen plates..its easier馃憤
68AutoBug 路
1303Steve wrote:Hi
The broke NSW government is about to introduce mobile speed cameras, al-la Victoria.
So we will all be driving around with our eyes on the speedo and not on the road and having nose 2 tail crashes, they've going to also drop amount of grace given to being just over the limit, they can make more money that way.
I've noticed quiet a few cars with what appears to be a film over the number plate, that at certain angle the writing on the number plate disappears.
Does anybody know where you can get this coating or film?
Steve
quite illegal Steve.. lol
stop and ask where they bought it??
in the country, many cars have plastic number plate frames
and when they fill up with dust, You can't see the plate.. lol
also on very muddy 4WD & cars....
You cannot see the rear plate...
Craig Torrens wrote:just use stolen plates..its easier馃憤
hahahaha good one Craig ,but the fine for that would probably be bigger than the speeding fine,plus these days they have vehicle recognition cameras on the side of the road that can pick up unreg or stolen plates and his friend down the road picks you up instead馃槀馃槀馃槀
In Qld a mobile speed camera can't take your pic from in front as the Flash from the camera can be dangerous. The vehicle that has the speed camera in it must be parallel and horizontal at the side of the road, they must be clear of other cars parked ( i think its 40m) they are also signed ( normally past the camera) 99% of the time they stick out like a sore thumb and its the motorist thats really not thinking about driving that will get a fine.. For all the time they have been in Qld and the K's I do for work its really easy to spot them.
Paulc1964au 路
I can't believe a Private company will now be utilised and supplying 6 white ford territories. They will also share part of the profit no wonder Macquarie Bank is trying to buy the company.
These cameras are state of art and can take up to 6 photos of cars at a time. This is the first stage with more cars to be rolled out in the future.
66deluxe 路
Well if they don't want us to be speeding build us more race tracks instead of closing them down, the bastards.
vlad01 路
lol not this again. just do what they did on mythbusters. either a flipping numberplate or travel at 350mph+ Yes!! MPH, thats like 560kmh
VolksVair 路
Hi All, many moons back, one of my fishing buddies who dabbled in electronics had a hairbrained scheme, he told me that the speed cameras of the day had a power output of 50khz and that the old paper echo sounder(fish finder for boats) put out the same 50khz, so we sat an old fish finder on the floor of a car, supplied 12v to it, mounted the transducer under the front bumper (facing forward) and then spent the next 2 days trying to find a camera car!!! anyways, we spotted one and parked our car on the opposite side of the road a couple of house blocks from it and facing the camera car, turns the fishfinder on and instantly the camera cars flash go's ballistic!! I mean it wouldnt stop flashing, the bloke in the car seemed to get excited and then the flashing stopped, mind you during all of this there were no passing traffic, he sat there for about 10 minutes then the flashing started again but only for a couple of seconds. He then got out of the car and packed up the gear and left!! Hence to say that over the next few months the local boating shops had a run on early model fish finders. later on the radar went to "K' band and the fish finders had no impact, so the craze faded as quick as it started but shit it looked funny馃槀 cheers Frank
ryana89 路
VolksVair wrote:Hi All, many moons back, one of my fishing buddies who dabbled in electronics had a hairbrained scheme, he told me that the speed cameras of the day had a power output of 50khz and that the old paper echo sounder(fish finder for boats) put out the same 50khz, so we sat an old fish finder on the floor of a car, supplied 12v to it, mounted the transducer under the front bumper (facing forward) and then spent the next 2 days trying to find a camera car!!! anyways, we spotted one and parked our car on the opposite side of the road a couple of house blocks from it and facing the camera car, turns the fishfinder on and instantly the camera cars flash go's ballistic!! I mean it wouldnt stop flashing, the bloke in the car seemed to get excited and then the flashing stopped, mind you during all of this there were no passing traffic, he sat there for about 10 minutes then the flashing started again but only for a couple of seconds. He then got out of the car and packed up the gear and left!! Hence to say that over the next few months the local boating shops had a run on early model fish finders. later on the radar went to "K' band and the fish finders had no impact, so the craze faded as quick as it started but shit it looked funny馃槀 cheers Frank
Geeez thats gotta be one of the funniest things I've ever heard of馃槀
Epic story馃憤
1303Steve 路
Hi
These new speed cameras have an infra-red flash so they can take photos both ways and at night.
The cars I've seen with these disappearing plates have all been new NSW Premium style plates and black with white writing or visa versa.
When I follow these cars in laned traffic and catchup or fall back the writing on the plate comes and goes.
Steve
h 路
the Dunning鈥揔ruger effect sounds like 馃槀 gold!
hellbugged 路
yeah Steve,
i've seen a few variations here.....
one set of covers seem to have an angled pattern molded into the inside of the cover. it only allows you to view through from straight on.
this is set opposite on each half of the cover so only when at an angle.
i thought my eyes were shot as i walked past the back of the car.........must have looked a treat slowly pacing back and forth checking it out
Daimo
EgeWorks 路
As Vlad said, all the things to stop the camera identifing the plate are BS - my suggestion, don't speed, then if you get a ticket contest it. There was a story in the paper the pther day, about 80% of contested speeding tickets are thrown out if you have a good record and were only marginally over the limit.
Like mentioned before, nip inot a wreckers yard and get yourself some new plates.
VolksVair 路
Hi again, rang my electronics buddy to rehash the old days and this scenario in particular, he remembered everything but pointed out to me that it wasn't 50khz it was 50 mhz ( mega hurtz or something)? anywayz, just on speed cameras, I am convinced that they are just a way of collecting revenue, receiving a camera fine in the mail is no different to shutting the gate after the bull has allready pissed off!! if you are speeding and potentially about to be a fatality, the fine aint going to be a deterent for you!! so in all honesty, one eye on the road and the other on your speedo at all times!! just dont speed. and for all that change their wheel size, get your speedo recalibrated to suit. cheers Frank
1303Steve 路
Hi
There was guy caught driving around in in Sydney's west last week, he had amassed about 156 demerit points from speed cameras.
He didn't break the speed limits by any more than about 10kph and only did it over a short period of time, so what sort of deterrent was the camera?
None! What would have been a deterrent was being pulled up the cops.
But cops cost money, far more than cameras.
Steve
DylanTheDubber 路
I know where you can buy a flip up and flip down device for your plates so flip em up for cameras then flip em back down so it dosent look sus drivn round wif no plates.
Warrenm 路
This is also illegal in most states-
Clear lacquer your plates and while still wet sprinkle with salt-after lacquer is dry wash salt out and you have a fairly reflective surface- try pic with flash on your camera
jjwebb123 路
didnt you see that myth-busters episode.馃槀
vlad01 路
+1
donn 路
Ha, just enforce the rules we have and ya MIGHT stop the idiots, I just arived home from a run up the F3 from Sydney to Newcastle, buggy is flat out trying to do 110 but sits on 95-100 ok speedo reading, stuck it in the slow lane and passed so many dickheads in the center and right hand lane that it was like I was driving a supercar and the confusion in those two lanes was something to see, enforce the keep left unless overtaking rule would be a start. Revenue raising!, not likely mr. citizen.
68AutoBug 路
71-BEETLE-SEDAN wrote:Like mentioned before, nip inot a wreckers yard and get yourself some new plates.
Every car pulled up in NSW for a breath test - the rego numbers and Your licence numbers are put into their computer...
If either are dodgy...
You won't be driving away... lol
LEE
PS: there was a movie.. a very old movie... where the licence plates flipped over...
closest I ever had was My front plate on hinges so when I went fast the plate went under the bumper...lol
that was a long time ago... lol
what We need now is rear plates to flip over or at least be covered over when going thru speed cameras...
cam070 路
Bloody NSW government revenue raising again. If they really wanted to reduce speeding and traffic accidents, wouldn't more marked cars be the way to go. If cost is the issue, paint up some old VN Commodores and EA Falcon's and park them by the roadside. I bet we'd all slow and be on best bahviour if we saw them around, even if they had no one in them. I reckon they'd also reduce crime. Bet that's a side effect Ms Keneally and her chronies never considered.
donn 路
Revolving number plates!!!! 007 are you listening?
mactaylor 路
i remember dr karl doing somthing a bit dodgy when he was young or i might be one of his "mates" They built a contraption that sort of melted the inside of the early radar cameas, might be a new science project for "someone"
too cranky 路
Just passed one of the new revenue raisers "testing" the camera on Williamson Ave in Ingleburn. So they are out there testing for a month apparently before they start issuing fines
HotRodMatt 路
too cranky wrote:Just passed one of the new revenue raisers "testing" the camera on Williamson Ave in Ingleburn. So they are out there testing for a month apparently before they start issuing fines
While they are "testing" them why don't you take II Cranky out for a "test" too?
too cranky 路
Don't tempt me matt I'm dying for a skid. Fingers crossed i get out in a couple of weeks
TheMiniMan 路
yeah, like "ANY" number plate covering de4vise would help me
reply to the Dtp of Tpt after recieving sppeding ticket in the mail--->
it wasn`t me,,, it must have been one of the other Jacked up, Big Wheeled, alloy V8 powered, grey/silver duel-cab kombi utes with fabricated alloy drop sides,,, yeah,,, there`s heaps & heaps of them around that look just like mine :-)
or maybe if it were in my rally mini,,,, again, it wasn`t me officer,,, it must have been one of the other Blue rally minis with Yellow "MiniMan" stickers down the sides :-)
However,,, i did hear a rumour about using your mico-wave oven door screen to cover your rear plate ,,, not sure if it works or not, anyone heard that one yet????
chippy 路
There is one simple way to avoid getting a speeding ticket from mobile cameras ..... DON'T SPEED!
Limits are posted for a reason, not as a recommendation for you to decide to go faster or not.
No speeding = No ticket! Easy!
cheers Chippy 馃榾
Spook 路
Exactly.
In NSW the limits are well posted (on most roads).
School zone signs are roughly the size of a box trailer, with quite a few now fitted with flashing lights.
You are well warned of upcoming fixed speed cameras & red light cameras. A friend from WA could not believe that.
The speedo is the biggest single guage on 99% of cars, & for a lot of people on this forum would be the only guage on the dash.
Where is the excuse??
donn 路
Where is the excuse?? [/quote]
I went 15 years without a booking, the one that bought me undone (after a 59 in a 50 zone at 4.45 am at Berry and a going through the yellow at Glendale) was 113kph on the F3, was so busy watching the "unmarked" coming up behind me that I missed the 90 sign, the copper didnt think that was much of an excuse! 馃槀
Barnabie 路
I don't openly object to speed cameras persay, but I do object to them being set up on steep gradient hills and the like. There has to be some deterrent, however ineffective they are, to slow meatheads that do dangerous speeds in built up areas down. Picking up bits of a deceased pedestrian victim off the road is no way to spend your time ... however ... the ridiculously low margin for error is absolute rubbish. At least MOST highway patrol cops give a bit of leniency, unlike the privately run cameras that are commonly set to capture speeds that are literally only a few km/h over the posted limit. With respect to dodgy plates, the NSW cops have begun fitting rego number recognition software to the Hwy Patrol cars that are capable of taking multiple photos per second at a great range of angles - the on board computers run checks, and if the car is unreg/stolen etc an audible tone sounds to alert the officer etc. Seems there's no way to beat them these days ... other than slow down and leave the racing for the track days. 馃槩
DubCrazy 路
u speed u get booked them the rules but.....
the speed limits in Australia are to low, it has been proven time and time again that people traveling at higehr speeds are more aware and have less accidents. Sitting on 100k's u relax and tend to look around, nater to people in car, just not pay as mush attention as u would when traveling at higger speed.
the uk has a 70mph limit on the big motorways but the camaras and cops will leave you alone unless u go over 100 mph, the reason is in there eyes u are safer as your watchign the road more closely and it gets u off the road quicker hence less traffic jams. One of the high ranking police cheifs came out on tv and admited this..
I know road condition comes into play and as such i know full well some of the so called main roads up here in C-qld are shit and traveling at 100 ks can be quite scary but around the bigger citys they are 3 laned and well built.
there will always be 2 sides to a coin and each thinks there veiws are better, me i dont speed in my cars my bike on the other hand i will creep over the limit , to me its what they are built for.
steff...................
DubCrazy 路
as for the plates, next time ur in the uk goto a bike shop and see just how many number plates are attched with velcro, people ride out,fill up and plate goes into pocket . The volume of traffic there means that even if a cop car is behind you its is very hard for them to get close to pull you over and camaras just take a picture. yes u can get busted for no plate but its a very small fine there and unless your caught a heap of times they do nothing. u just claim ur plate was stolen,fell off.
i never did such things honest
steff................
Smiley 路
DubCrazy wrote:my bike on the other hand i will creep over the limit 馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀
DubCrazy 路
i just don't know what your laughing about young man!
steff.............
amazeer 路
The only problem I have with speed cameras are the tossers who slow down to 10, 15, sometimes 20kmh under the speed limit when going past them. Seems to be a deterrant to me. Here's a whole thread of people who are scared the camera might get them. Perhaps they might slow down. If there was a marked police car every 400 metres along the road, you'd still be watching your speedo , yes or no? Every time I see a cop car I look down to check.
Speeding fines havent been a problem for me since about 1989. And back then I was a menace to society and drove like an idiot and should have been done many more times than I was. Tragically that last time I did get booked I was doing the speed limits until I had to overtake a car on a deserted central victorian road.
There was a guy selling number plate frames at the summernats. Dont know what they call it but made from that glass that can go opaque at the flick of a switch. If you come down into Wollongong stop at the aboriginal cultural centre thing at the top of Bulli Pass. They have a 15 metre long 2 metre high demo. One minute its an awesome view of Wollongong and the ocean, then in a fraction of a second it turns into a projector screen. Worth a fortune apparently.
guru 路
I heard that if you pay the speed camera fine by cheque, and make the amount you pay $1 more than the fine, they cant process it. Dont know if this would work... just what someone told me recently.
silver 路
guru wrote:I heard that if you pay the speed camera fine by cheque, and make the amount you pay $1 more than the fine, they cant process it. Dont know if this would work... just what someone told me recently.
heard that one and tried it! I paid an extra 3 bucks expecting a refund cheque for the extra, that cheque i was going to never Present thereby holding the whole transaction in limbo and the points not being allocated
it did not work (it might have once upon a time) i received a letter advising me that i was in credit to the tune of $3 bucks 馃ゲ
warb 路
silver wrote:
guru wrote:I heard that if you pay the speed camera fine by cheque, and make the amount you pay $1 more than the fine, they cant process it. Dont know if this would work... just what someone told me recently.
heard that one and tried it! I paid an extra 3 bucks expecting a refund cheque for the extra, that cheque i was going to never Present thereby holding the whole transaction in limbo and the points not being allocated
it did not work (it might have once upon a time) i received a letter advising me that i was in credit to the tune of $3 bucks 馃ゲ
i can also confirm that................ didn't work for me!.. cock still have m,y 50c.. haha.
Beerboy 路
amazeer wrote:The only problem I have with speed cameras are the tossers who slow down to 10, 15, sometimes 20kmh under the speed limit when going past them. Seems to be a deterrant to me. Here's a whole thread of people who are scared the camera might get them. Perhaps they might slow down. If there was a marked police car every 400 metres along the road, you'd still be watching your speedo , yes or no? Every time I see a cop car I look down to check.
Speeding fines havent been a problem for me since about 1989. And back then I was a menace to society and drove like an idiot and should have been done many more times than I was. Tragically that last time I did get booked I was doing the speed limits until I had to overtake a car on a deserted central victorian road.
There was a guy selling number plate frames at the summernats. Dont know what they call it but made from that glass that can go opaque at the flick of a switch. If you come down into Wollongong stop at the aboriginal cultural centre thing at the top of Bulli Pass. They have a 15 metre long 2 metre high demo. One minute its an awesome view of Wollongong and the ocean, then in a fraction of a second it turns into a projector screen. Worth a fortune apparently.
If you commute into london on the A3 or come out of central london there are eight to ten cameras. One was hidden behind a sign, but they changed them all a yellow colour to show that they were for safety not a money spinner. yeah right. It has become standard practice to hit the brakes to slow for the cameras and then speed up again. I saw three acidents that stopped the traffic where car had gone into the back of someone at the camera.
One camera made millions it was on a slip road in essex off the motorway just into a 30 zone.
quick search says london has taken 6 mil
I have just paid two hundred bucks to see a black and white picture of me driving my van ten k over the speed limit. hardly the crime of the century. Especially as a double decker coach cut me up on the inside jumped in from the cash lane and barriers. was nuts
modulus 路
DubCrazy wrote:it has been proven time and time again that people traveling at higehr speeds are more aware and have less accidents.
...and disproven time and again... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
Have a look at the column "Road fatalities per 1 billion vehicle-km" and you'll find that the only countries better than Australia are the Scandinavians (where severe weather imposes natural speed limits) and some countries which are smaller than the average aussie houseblock, like Luxembourg. Countries frequently cited as being safer such as Germany, due to their flexible speed limits, actually have worse figures.
I don't enjoy the Australian limits and I used to love living in London, where I could get up late but still get to lunch in Wales on a Sunday in the Citroen BX GTI. However, the figures are undeniable. Furthermore, in Victoria, the consumate nanny state, where we have suffered hidden speed cameras and red-light cameras for many years, the absolute death toll is progressively falling and has done so for years. Regrettably the statistics indicate that such tactics actually work.
It's fine to have an opinion, even better if it's based on facts.
hth
tmerivale 路
modulus, i have to agree 100%. i would rather have the speed limit set at something ridiculous cause i like to drive fast, but the road toll would sky rocket as some people just cant drive fast (sitting at 80 in 110 zones for example) i used to be a chronic speeder, sitting on 180-190kph on average in the morning (at 6am there isnt much traffic) down the calder every morning but would need to slow down to about 130 to 140 when i saw tail lights. had i not seen the tail lights i would more than likely have drove through. what im trying to say is that in the right or wrong light it can be very dangerous when people arent driving fast enough along roads that have high speed limits.
Please note that i ended up losing my license for12 months whilst going 49 over the limit, since then i have slowed down. THERE IS NO REASON FOR SPEEDING plenty of EXCUSES but no reason to be doing it. so please dont grill me over my stupidity in the past. we all have done stupid stuff in our life, we can only move forward by discontinuing our behaviour
Phil74Camper 路
By that same Wikipedia page:
Australia has 6.6 fatalities per 100,000 people per year. Germany has 5.5. UK has 4.3.
Australia has 10 fatalities per 100,000 vehicles per year. Germany has 8.0. UK has 7.0.
Australia has 6.5 fatalities per billion km distance. Germany has 7.2, UK has 5.7.
So by two out of three criteria, Germany is better than Australia. UK is better on all three.
So Germany has less death per person and per car, but more per distance than us. So doesn't that simply tell us that Germans drive further? (and why not, their highways are better). Where does speed come into it? Those statistics, on their own, say nothing about speed.
If speed was the only factor, Germany would be higher on all three criteria - but they aren't.
Phil74Camper 路
Germany's deaths per billion km has improved for 2009, to 6.5 (the Wikipedia figure is for 2008). In fact, this figure has consistently dropped on a year-by-year basis since 1970.
Autobahns are by far the safest roads to travel in Germany. For 2009, by that same criteria, Autobahns recorded just 2.2 fatalities ber billion km. National roads recorded 9.5.
Germany has the third-largest motorway system in the world, 12,200km, behind only the USA and China. The best sections have five lanes in each direction, although some of the former East German sections still only have two lanes eeach way. The Autobahns have an 'advisory' speed limit of 130 km/h, and less than half of the network is actually unrestricted. In reality, the average speed travelled on the Autobahn is 134 km/h.
Australia has 6.6 fatalities per 100,000 people per year. Germany has 5.5. UK has 4.3.
Australia has 10 fatalities per 100,000 vehicles per year. Germany has 8.0. UK has 7.0.
Australia has 6.5 fatalities per billion km distance. Germany has 7.2, UK has 5.7.
So by two out of three criteria, Germany is better than Australia. UK is better on all three.
...
I agree that the range of statistics can lead to a range of conclusions.
However:
>>Australia has 6.6 fatalities per 100,000 people per year. Germany has 5.5. UK has 4.3.
Deaths per capita is not a good measure between countries. In some countries, fewer people are drivers so if you look at Japan's figures you will see they do quite well on that basis (most workers commute by train), but much worse per billion km driven.
>>Australia has 10 fatalities per 100,000 vehicles per year. Germany has 8.0. UK has 7.0.
Deaths per vehicle is equally misleading. Again if you compare with Japan, you might conclude that drivimg there is quite a bit safer than Australia, but not when you compare the deaths per billion km. The rate per vehicle is as much a measure of vehicle ownership patterns as it is of road safety.
If you want an overall comparative measure of how likely you are to die driving in various countries, the only valid comparator is the rate per billion km. Of course, this does not start to explain *why* one country's rate is better than anothers; that's a complex question which does not lend itself to facile explanations.
What I do take issue with is the oft-repeated nonsense that it has been 'proven' that higher speed limits reduce road tolls. This is far from 'proven' and the classic comparison with Germany with a population of 82 million in an area 1/20th of Australia's is particularly fraught.
hth
Phil74Camper 路
I agree with your first two arguments. But I would argue that deaths per billion km is also not an 'absolute' or 'valid' comparison. Deaths per a unit distance - this would obviously be affected by traffic density, journey time/distance, fatigue, road condition, vehicle condition, etc etc. Even local weather conditions. It can't be used to make any sweeping conclusions such as 'Germany is less safe than Australia because they get 7.2 compared with our 6.5'. That's nonsense.
In reality I would expect the three different criteria to be related in any given country, dependng on the local condtions as above.
I also agree that it's not proven that higher speed limits (alone) reduce road tolls. However, it's also not proven that higher speed limits (alone) INCREASE road tolls either. There are too many other variables involved. For example, as you say, Germany has four times our population in a twentieth of our area. They ought to have (4x20) = 80 times the accident rate we do, all else being equal. But they don't, because things aren't equal. Their roads and highways are very different, their driver education system is very different and their licencing system is very different. I would also say their cars are better - there are more Volkswagens and less Daiwoos on their roads than ours.
For the police, the RTA and their $$-making contractors, the problem is that's it's much easier and $$ efficient to book motorists for travelling 4 km/h over the limit than it is for booking them for the many other causes of accidents - tailgating, abrupt and continual lane-swapping, pulling out without looking, SMSing while driving, not signalling, not giving way, inadequate driver training, etc etc. Not much money in that.
donn 路
Some damned good points raised here, the most logical and acceptable is that conditions in European countries are so different to those existing in Australia that there can be no comparison, the vast distances between population centres being just a start.
amazeer 路
When you put it like that it doesnt seem so bad. We probably lose more people per year than that due to infections picked up in hospital.
And dont forget that we put any death on the roads into these figures. Drunk pedestrians on the road at night, kids being reversed over, people changing tres on the freeway, urban crashes completely unrelated to speed.
I guess if the road toll wasnt so political we wouldnt hear about it or care.
modulus 路
Phil74Camper wrote:Deaths per a unit distance - this would obviously be affected by traffic density, journey time/distance, fatigue, road condition, vehicle condition, etc etc. Even local weather conditions. It can't be used to make any sweeping conclusions such as 'Germany is less safe than Australia because they get 7.2 compared with our 6.5'. That's nonsense.
I agree 100%. I didn't say at any stage that Germany is less safe than Australia, and you can't reach that conclusion from those figues.
Phil74Camper wrote:their cars are better - there are more Volkswagens and less Daiwoos on their roads than ours.
lol - yes that part's true as well.
At least we're conducting this discussion based on facts, not on the basis of some specious argument that suited a politician's need for a sound-bite one day. I'm reminded of the widely-accepted 'factoid' that we only use 10% of our brains. The only traceable original reference to this pseudo fact is that it was mentioned in "How to Win Friends and Influence People" written in 1937 by Dale Carnegie, i.e. it's about as soundly-based as a fact as "it has been proven time and time again that people traveling at higehr speeds are more aware and haveless accidents".
peace and love
Mr Bubble Head 路
I'm in the UK at the moment and yesterday i drove from Yorkshire down to the Midlands on the M6 the speed limit is 70 mph = 111 klms. The inside lane was traveling at 70 -75mph the middle was 80- 90mph and the outside lane was 90 plus mph everyone slowed for the over head speed camera's then exelerated away there were mercedes sprinter vans overtaking me at 85 mph.
The overhead signs are interactive with the flow of traffic and two or three times were indicating 40 mph meaning slow down theres a problem ahead everyone still carried on at the same pace without even easing off. It was usally due to somone had broken down and were sitting in the hard sholder or there was a foriegn object on the road.
My point is 80 klms takes the piss on a freeway unless theres road works. the south eastern through melbourne is now 80 klms since all the updates started a few years back, which is meant to make the traffic flow better why not put it back to 100, its just a pain in the arse trying to stick to 80 when trucks are in the outside lane doing 90.
Also 100 is too slow at least make it 110 klms = 70mph isn't fast. My Dad who's in his mid sixtys and is very conservative in life drives at 85 mph about 140 klms.
You might say the roads are different between England and Australia if anything Australias freeways are wider lanes and more of them (lanes).
Also throw into the mix of somone who does aproxx 40000 klms a year going about my daily works with somone who only does 10000 klms a year driving to the office and back theres a 4x more chance of me gaining a fine than the same driver only doing 10000 a year.
SPEEDING It really is money for jam with a saving lives banner to wrap it in.
Volkstang 路
Mr Bubble Head wrote:I'm in the UK at the moment and yesterday i drove from Yorkshire down to the Midlands on the M6 the speed limit is 70 mph = 111 klms. The inside lane was traveling at 70 -75mph the middle was 80- 90mph and the outside lane was 90 plus mph everyone slowed for the over head speed camera's then exelerated away there were mercedes sprinter vans overtaking me at 85 mph.
The overhead signs are interactive with the flow of traffic and two or three times were indicating 40 mph meaning slow down theres a problem ahead everyone still carried on at the same pace without even easing off. It was usally due to somone had broken down and were sitting in the hard sholder or there was a foriegn object on the road.
My point is 80 klms takes the piss on a freeway unless theres road works. the south eastern through melbourne is now 80 klms since all the updates started a few years back, which is meant to make the traffic flow better why not put it back to 100, its just a pain in the arse trying to stick to 80 when trucks are in the outside lane doing 90.
Also 100 is too slow at least make it 110 klms = 70mph isn't fast. My Dad who's in his mid sixtys and is very conservative in life drives at 85 mph about 140 klms.
You might say the roads are different between England and Australia if anything Australias freeways are wider lanes and more of them (lanes).
Also throw into the mix of somone who does aproxx 40000 klms a year going about my daily works with somone who only does 10000 klms a year driving to the office and back theres a 4x more chance of me gaining a fine than the same driver only doing 10000 a year.
SPEEDING It really is money for jam with a saving lives banner to wrap it in.
The best thing about driving in the UK is the road signs,,, Not something you think about much, but each exit is clearly signed overhead and on the road 5 ks from the exit.
You don't see cars cutting accross 3 lanes at a exits as you do here.
The motorways work well there, but watch the narrow north England/Scottish roads, some are too narrow for 2 motorbikes to pass side by side馃お
Notch Nut 路
Honestly, in this day and age with modern cars, technology and all the other stuff that goes with it....
,if 110kph is the maximum safest speed that motorists are able to travel at, it really says alot about someones driving ability and their risk assesment. 馃檯馃檯
Welcome to the nanny state folks. Please collect your packet of cotton wool and roll of reflective tape at the front counter.....
*NEXT!*................ 馃檨
vlad01 路
haha yes thats very true. I notice people are crap at driving.
馃槀 there was a woman that stacked her car into a tree on the center divide on the calder about march this year.
How do u stack driving in a dead straight line??
Notch Nut 路
vlad01 wrote:haha yes thats very true. I notice people are crap at driving.
馃槀 there was a woman that stacked her car into a tree on the center divide on the calder about march this year.
How do u stack driving in a dead straight line??
She missed the turnoff! 馃槀馃槀馃槀
vlad01 路
lol what turn off?
cnfabo 路
the cock heads over here in perth just installed 6 of those speeding red light cameras at lights and made $280g's in two weeks..........
and yep,i think australia speed limits can be way too slow......
1303Steve 路
Hi
Old post but Ive solved the mystery with disappearing writing on the number plates.
I bought some NSW premium plates in black with silver writing, when you tilt them the writing disappears.
Apparently there was story on one of the current affairs hows on telly about this issue.
Steve
vlad01 路
They are doing a huge blitz in the town near where I live.
I have been pulled over and breatho'd once and the police radar pointed at me few time. Funny thing is I recon in the last month I have only gone to town half a dozen times and I would of seen the cops at least 3 times per visit if not hassled by them.
ridiculous ! got nothing better to do, why don't they sort out all the drugos around town?
wasting tax payers money and time.
1303Steve 路
Hi
I just had my new 1303 gone over by the RMS
I've driven the car 50 or 60ks unregistered when I had to get it checked by the RMS, 1st Silverwater and then Botany, never a problem, I was pulled up by the Highway Patrol on the way home a few ks from my house after getting a blue slip.
I said to him I suppose you want to know why I have no number plates on the car, he said that and I wanted to have a look at it.
I explained that I had just been for a blue slip, when he saw my name on the documentation I showed him it turns out we knew each other 35 years ago and he was a VW head back then, small world but I live in the biggest city in Australia, not as big as other cities in the world but still freaky.
Steve
gordysbeetle 路
There was a product at the summernats called disaplate. its an electronic numberplate cover,just looks like clear perspex until you power it up, then it goes frosty.there website is unavailable ,probably been locked up.
STIDUB 路
Video on YouTube of that ^ quite effective, until they look for wiring.
RestoK盲fer 路
i just use cruise control in almost every zone.Would get much more of a kick spending 300 on vw parts than giving to the police Academy.The new corollas cruise is very user friendly.This red light camera is dangerous stuff too as now i often brake hard at red lights,it really hurts paying for nothing,but the yuppy woman talking on here mobile up my rear better watch out
vlad01 路
RestoK盲fer wrote:i just use cruise control in almost every zone.Would get much more of a kick spending 300 on vw parts than giving to the police Academy.The new corollas cruise is very user friendly.This red light camera is dangerous stuff too as now i often brake hard at red lights,it really hurts paying for nothing,but the yuppy woman talking on here mobile up my rear better watch out
+1 its awful in the rain. I have attempted to stop when the yellow light come few times and failed to even slow down due the greasy Melbourne roads when it rains, just had to make snap decision to absolutely floor it just getting through with lights turning red half way in. damn scary! been lucky so far.
funny story, once I had these lights on Alexander parade go from green, yellow to red so fast, I slammed the brakes to maximum tire adhesion, tires chirping over texture on the road and nose planting like no tomorrow, stopped just in time and the camera flashed a few times. Because of the speed I was going so close the intersection the camera must of set off lol
and I know it was me that did it because there was no one in front and the next car behind was still a while back and hadn't even reached the intersection yet when this all played out.
they do it on purpose and call it "safety" sound kinda ironic don't you think?
vlad01 路
RestoK盲fer wrote:i just use cruise control in almost every zone.Would get much more of a kick spending 300 on vw parts than giving to the police Academy.The new corollas cruise is very user friendly.This red light camera is dangerous stuff too as now i often brake hard at red lights,it really hurts paying for nothing,but the yuppy woman talking on here mobile up my rear better watch out
yep thats what I use. I made some electronic adaption for my cruise control to work with a manual transmission. the greatest think I discovered with a manual transmission and have cruise control on is that the car cannot over run down hills and keep constant speed.
vlad01 路
watch this video. camera proof numberplate frame.
grinderman 路
Just copped a speeding fine near cunnamulla (far south west queensland) , there is NOTHING out here except the odd emu/goat/pig but I was certainly not a threat to anyones or our safety. I generally slow down a few k's when near towns but I got caught about 30km from town and they were in a white landcruiser (most popular car out here) driving the other way and they said they got me on the radar miles away: 130 in a 100 zone, $366 later and a carefully timed phonecall to my wife....... The crazy thing is that no-one sits on a hundred when it is a perfectly straight road in the middle of nowhere when you have 900km to cover in normal working hours. The officer asked me if I had an excuse but my workmate wasn't having a baby so no getting out of this one but its crazy to book people this far out I reckon馃お
vlad01 路
well I certainly don't go over regardless if there isn't anyone one for miles (used to, but don't anymore), I am just too paranoid they'll be hiding in a tree or something, seen them hiding in bushes before.
only time I will go over is if I need to test the car out but I will run up and down a selected road and carefully check out no one is about and not hidden cameras ( doubt it in a rural area) but just in case, then get someone to keep an eye out on the other end of the run and warn of coming cars. Then go for it, but even this I don't feel comfortable with anymore, time to hit the race track I think.
but yeah I do think they are too excessive about it now, its just revenue raising
Serious85 路
I heard the government were going to 'outsource' the speeding cameras so the police can do real police work... If this is true and a company will be making money out of fining people as well as the government it will get a lot worse. But i guess at the end of the day if you don't speed it wont be an issue.
The best place to get fined is Alice Street in Brisbane city, 40km zone yet everyone comes around the bend and hits 60km heading towards the freeway, cops seem to be there every 2nd day lol.
vlad01 路
Serious85 wrote:I heard the government were going to 'outsource' the speeding cameras so the police can do real police work... If this is true and a company will be making money out of fining people as well as the government it will get a lot worse. But i guess at the end of the day if you don't speed it wont be an issue.
The best place to get fined is Alice Street in Brisbane city, 40km zone yet everyone comes around the bend and hits 60km heading towards the freeway, cops seem to be there every 2nd day lol.
don't forget about dodgy cameras though, I know first hand about that!
Anyone remember Eastlink Dandenong bypass camera? famous for fining random people giving fines which were all and only 108km.
even some police got fined this one 馃槀
Serious85 路
Damn thats pretty bad, is this the one you got done by? how far did you have to fight it?
I got a weird one a fair few years ago, something along the lines of 'more then 5km but less then 9km' over the limit, $110 fine. But it was on a multi lane major road and they sent no picture. I didnt pay anything and never heard anything else about it.
donn 路
speed cameras are already outsouced, seen plenty of them around and north of Newcastle over the last year or two 馃槵
vlad01 路
Serious85 wrote:Damn thats pretty bad, is this the one you got done by? how far did you have to fight it?
I got a weird one a fair few years ago, something along the lines of 'more then 5km but less then 9km' over the limit, $110 fine. But it was on a multi lane major road and they sent no picture. I didnt pay anything and never heard anything else about it.
thats weird? thats you heard nothing of it? probably a scam?
I managed to delay mine a lot but it wasn't worth fighting for only $150, I couldn't afford to loose any days off work to take it to court.
its the only fine I had in my life so far. I thought something was wrong and I goodled the camera and no surprise found many pages with 100s of people complaining about receiving a fine for doing exactly 108km/h on the same stretch of road 2 sets of cameras were going it.
there is even a facebook page for it. Its mentioned somewhere on this page
How can they fine anybody from these cameras if they are obviously faulty? You can see why people get so angry about it. They need to stop people driving like maniacs, but cameras arent working by the look of it.
Remember when the old Police Commissioner got done by the one on the story bridge? lol unless you're in Brisbane you might not have heard though.
vlad01 路
I have heard lots of cops being done by dodgy cameras, its more common then you think as highway patrol police are always driving back and forth on there roads and the fact most police speed. Setting a good example 馃憤
Had that happen today, police in a territory speeds past doing 100 in a 90 zone on the black forest road near woodend and the irony is this is one of the biggest cop hot spots for booking people in Victoria. 馃檮
Serious85 路
Yeah its true, I see cops speeding and talking on mobiles while driving ( maybe they are allowed idk ). They had on the news up here the police were going to do mobile phone crackdown, didnt get to see the story though.