Up with the left.
And now the right.
Some shots from the track day I did last month.
fullnoise ·
Aussieveedubbers · VW Circuit Racing
Which is faster 3 wheels or 4? Eastern Creek Update
https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/85332/which-is-faster-3-wheels-or-4-eastern-creek-update
vw54 ·
great shots but i think faster on 4 wheels
1303Steve ·
That looks like Marulan, what are trying to do CT, save on tyres?
Jak Rizzo ·
I think u should try harder & have a go ya wuss, yes thats right, I said wuss.
Jak
Jak
68AutoBug ·
Yes,
Great pics....
I don't believe I have ever gone on 3 wheels... lol
but You definately need 4 to Brake with..... lol
LEE
Great pics....
I don't believe I have ever gone on 3 wheels... lol
but You definately need 4 to Brake with..... lol
LEE
HappyDaze ·
Who is it?
Where is it?
When is it?
Where is it?
When is it?
HappyDaze ·
At last.👍👍👍👍 Finally worked out how to the pics thing!
Craig Torrens ·
3 cheers for Greg !😂
looks like you need to do some work on handling CT. 😉
looks like you need to do some work on handling CT. 😉
matberry ·
Nice pics CT.
Greg, you wouldn't be interested in CT's car, it's IRS.😂
Greg, you wouldn't be interested in CT's car, it's IRS.😂
Craig Torrens ·
Maybe CT should go back to swinger to make it handle better 😂
PAZZAN ·
looks good CT might need bigger rear torsion bars though😵💫
HappyDaze ·
What makes you say that? What's it doing wrong?PAZZAN wrote:looks good CT might need bigger rear torsion bars though😵💫
OK, I'm a swing-axle fan, but that looks damned good to me.😎
mactaylor ·
cool photos both of you! greg have you got anymore photos of your 60's race car?
HappyDaze ·
Only a couple - couldn't afford 'em then.
PAZZAN ·
4 wheels
HappyDaze ·
2 plus 2 halves = 3👍
vw54 ·
Greg
Over the top Skyline or a little bit down the hill ??? 1964 Bathurst
Over the top Skyline or a little bit down the hill ??? 1964 Bathurst
Craig Torrens ·
through the dipper.(esses) 👍
HappyDaze ·
The 'Dipper', Bathurst, Easter, 1963
vw54 ·
yeah couldnt remember the name did u back up again in 64 ???
HappyDaze ·
No Dave - married Dec, 1963.😁
colin ·
Now your just showing off CT.
Love it!
Cheers Col
Love it!
Cheers Col
vw54 ·
No Dave - married Dec, 1963
yep yep thats spoilt a few of our dreams
So CT get bigger balls LOL ( says me bullshit ) and you too JAK great driving by the way
GReg
So how many times did you run at Bathurst it was the armstrong 500 ??? back then
fullnoise ·
That's a cool classic shot Greg. It's amazing to me that you drove a swinger with drums and cross-plies around Mt Panorama. How did you hold your backside in the standard seat?
My oval doesn't spend much time on 3 wheels. Only 2 of 80 or so shots show the car on 3 wheels.
I used to run bigger rear torsion bars and koni shocks and the car didn't lift it's front wheels. Disappointing because the photos never looked that spectacular. But on the limit it would kick the back out too much. I wanted to reduce the oversteer and get the car to 4 wheel drift.
I went back to type 3 rear springs. Then I changed the worn konis to bilsteins. The bilsteins have an inch less droop. As a result the car now lifts a front wheel occasionally but it doesn't understeer. It's got heaps of font end grip. It's great. It's so neutral.
One of they guys at Marulan came up and said "wow, your car just grips and goes". It suits my driving style which is fairly conservative.
Jak and I are heading to Eastern Creek next weekend. I don't think the oval will be lifting wheels on those corners.
Thanks for the comments guys.
CYA CT
My oval doesn't spend much time on 3 wheels. Only 2 of 80 or so shots show the car on 3 wheels.
I used to run bigger rear torsion bars and koni shocks and the car didn't lift it's front wheels. Disappointing because the photos never looked that spectacular. But on the limit it would kick the back out too much. I wanted to reduce the oversteer and get the car to 4 wheel drift.
I went back to type 3 rear springs. Then I changed the worn konis to bilsteins. The bilsteins have an inch less droop. As a result the car now lifts a front wheel occasionally but it doesn't understeer. It's got heaps of font end grip. It's great. It's so neutral.
One of they guys at Marulan came up and said "wow, your car just grips and goes". It suits my driving style which is fairly conservative.
Jak and I are heading to Eastern Creek next weekend. I don't think the oval will be lifting wheels on those corners.
Thanks for the comments guys.
CYA CT
colin ·
CT,
I have been racing for a while now, and i,ve learnt a thing or two.
One of the most important things i,ve picked up along the way, is no-one knows your car, and it,s set up for your driving style, better than you.
Listen to other people then decide for yourself.
Hell if i listened to other people i would not be racing a superbeetle.
Cheers Col
I have been racing for a while now, and i,ve learnt a thing or two.
One of the most important things i,ve picked up along the way, is no-one knows your car, and it,s set up for your driving style, better than you.
Listen to other people then decide for yourself.
Hell if i listened to other people i would not be racing a superbeetle.
Cheers Col
HappyDaze ·
Dave, no dreams spoiled really - still married (same bird), and still getting in some track time.👍
Drove at Bathurst in 1963 (Easter & Armstrong 500) - Beetles, and 1969 & 1970 - F.Vee.
CT, The Beetle was better at Bathurst than you might think. Most of the corners were under 70 MPH, and the car wasn't fast enough to be upset by the 'fast' corners. I managed to grab the 1000 to 1300 lap record. Hit 102 MPH down the straight, but it jumped about a bit coming out of 'The Cutting'.🤪 A lap belt sort of kept you in the seat. Remember, this was my only car, and I had to drive it there and back - as well as to work on Monday.😁
You are the one who best knows how your car feels (it looks good to me, by the way), so keep doing what you're doing. Try to make one change at a time, and you will end up with what you want - then you can try to get it even better.👍
Have a good time at 'The Creek'.
Cheers, Greg
P.S. On the '3 wheel' subject, at Warwick Farm Causeway - a long left-hander - the left front wheel was of the deck long enough for the speedo needle to drop back to zero, then suddenly shoot up to 70 MPH or so when the wheel dropped!🤪
Drove at Bathurst in 1963 (Easter & Armstrong 500) - Beetles, and 1969 & 1970 - F.Vee.
CT, The Beetle was better at Bathurst than you might think. Most of the corners were under 70 MPH, and the car wasn't fast enough to be upset by the 'fast' corners. I managed to grab the 1000 to 1300 lap record. Hit 102 MPH down the straight, but it jumped about a bit coming out of 'The Cutting'.🤪 A lap belt sort of kept you in the seat. Remember, this was my only car, and I had to drive it there and back - as well as to work on Monday.😁
You are the one who best knows how your car feels (it looks good to me, by the way), so keep doing what you're doing. Try to make one change at a time, and you will end up with what you want - then you can try to get it even better.👍
Have a good time at 'The Creek'.
Cheers, Greg
P.S. On the '3 wheel' subject, at Warwick Farm Causeway - a long left-hander - the left front wheel was of the deck long enough for the speedo needle to drop back to zero, then suddenly shoot up to 70 MPH or so when the wheel dropped!🤪
colin ·
Warwick Farm, crikey dad tells me storys about that place.
The good old days he says.
He makes me almost jealous what he got up too.
Cheers Col
The good old days he says.
He makes me almost jealous what he got up too.
Cheers Col
HappyDaze ·
How is Brian, Col - long time no see!
colin ·
He,s great loving retierment
My sister happened to get a copy of a story of the 1972 Australiian Hillclimb Championships which was held at Mattara Newcastle.
It,s the only video footage we have of dad racing. So cool to see him driving his Torana with his coke bottle glasses on, and open face helmet.
From the story dad was a bit of a legend in the Hillclimb scene. He,s not one to talk about himself to much but mum said he was quiet chuffed when my sister presented the video footage to him. He beat his own record that day by 4 seconds, and won his class. He actually was 5 times Australian Hillclimb Champ.
Whenever i have a question about car setup or alike dad is always someone i can ask. You can,t beat experience.
Cheers Col
My sister happened to get a copy of a story of the 1972 Australiian Hillclimb Championships which was held at Mattara Newcastle.
It,s the only video footage we have of dad racing. So cool to see him driving his Torana with his coke bottle glasses on, and open face helmet.
From the story dad was a bit of a legend in the Hillclimb scene. He,s not one to talk about himself to much but mum said he was quiet chuffed when my sister presented the video footage to him. He beat his own record that day by 4 seconds, and won his class. He actually was 5 times Australian Hillclimb Champ.
Whenever i have a question about car setup or alike dad is always someone i can ask. You can,t beat experience.
Cheers Col
PAZZAN ·
ok CT I will try to get out to eastern creek 4 a look what day will u be there..found a old time sheet on the web to give u some motivation😬
bat69 ·
hey col, you wouldnt have a spare copy of that footage from the oz hill climb from 1972? A car club member was the formula vee champ that year and he was talking a couple of years ago about that year and was chasing some photos of his vee. btw ct. Nice photos. Good 2 see you were trying hard.
mactaylor ·
CT just a question, dose your tyre data show any real differnce betwen big rear bars and the type 3 bars?
modulus ·
Hi CT,fullnoise wrote:I used to run bigger rear torsion bars and koni shocks and the car didn't lift it's front wheels.
Have you thought about a slightly stiffer rear anti-roll bar? The 1st picture in this post is a classic "too little roll stiffness in the rear" pose, and beefing up the anti-roll bar would be different from increasing the overall spring rate.
hth
fullnoise ·
I was trying to increase the understeer. I actually ran the car with no rear rollbar at Eastern Creek and it handled well but took too long to bring the nose to the apex. Then when I took it to Oran Park it understeered exiting the bridge. So the small rear swaybar is just enough to make it neutral. I've got a bigger adjustable rear bar at home. However, I'm still using an open diff and I used to find the stiffer rear bar made the inside rear spin too much in the final turns at Eastern Creek and Oran Park.
Until I win the lotto, which I don't play, I'm not willing to modify the car to the next stage, which would be limited slip diff, rear disk brakes, bigger heads etc. It would be a small increase in bang for a big increase in bucks.
Maybe I could increase the size of the front swaybar by 2mm for a little more understeer, then balance that up by putting the bigger rear springs back in for more oversteer thus keeping it neutral and making it sit flatter.
I'll check the pyros on the weekend and see if the car is using the outside of it's tyres. Normally the fronts are even across the tread and the rears show a bit too much negative camber, but I'd have to raise the ride height to even that out. The current setup makes the front tyres work hard, which is awsome, since it only puts 39% of its weight on the front wheels.
In order to crack the 2 minute mark at the creek I've removed the passenger seat for the first time ever and taken the overiders off. I might even go easy on the post-scrutineering pastizzis Jak will bring along.
I might try the V8 supercar line through turn 2. I might try taking turns 4 and 5 in 4th gear. I might even have the stones to not backoff into turn 1.
Maybe I should just get Paul to drive.😂
Until I win the lotto, which I don't play, I'm not willing to modify the car to the next stage, which would be limited slip diff, rear disk brakes, bigger heads etc. It would be a small increase in bang for a big increase in bucks.
Maybe I could increase the size of the front swaybar by 2mm for a little more understeer, then balance that up by putting the bigger rear springs back in for more oversteer thus keeping it neutral and making it sit flatter.
I'll check the pyros on the weekend and see if the car is using the outside of it's tyres. Normally the fronts are even across the tread and the rears show a bit too much negative camber, but I'd have to raise the ride height to even that out. The current setup makes the front tyres work hard, which is awsome, since it only puts 39% of its weight on the front wheels.
In order to crack the 2 minute mark at the creek I've removed the passenger seat for the first time ever and taken the overiders off. I might even go easy on the post-scrutineering pastizzis Jak will bring along.
I might try the V8 supercar line through turn 2. I might try taking turns 4 and 5 in 4th gear. I might even have the stones to not backoff into turn 1.
Maybe I should just get Paul to drive.😂
Craig Torrens ·
What day are you running CT ?
I have a GOPRO camera you could put on the outside of the car looking at what the wheels are doing if you like ??
you can also adjust the neg without adjusting the ride height...........its an easy trick.
I have a GOPRO camera you could put on the outside of the car looking at what the wheels are doing if you like ??
you can also adjust the neg without adjusting the ride height...........its an easy trick.
cnfabo ·
ct, i thought u had a box full of albins and a qaife??
hellbugged ·
🙅cnfabo wrote:ct, i thought u had a box full of albins and a qaife??
cnfabo ·
i was going off the dutton rally article.....
vw54 ·
CT Turn 1 would be the scariestI might try the V8 supercar line through turn 2. I might try taking turns 4 and 5 in 4th gear. I might even have the stones to not backoff into turn 1.
dont think i could do it without touching the brakes
sander288 ·
Great pics! Whats happening and when at the Creek this weekend?
fullnoise ·
The Morgan Club is hosting a round of the Combined Sports Car Association supersprint series this coming Saturday 21st August at Eastern Creek.
I'm going to bring a jar of termites to sabotage the Morgan competitor's partially wooden cars.
🥷
I'm going to bring a jar of termites to sabotage the Morgan competitor's partially wooden cars.
🥷
fullnoise ·
Hi Dave,
My oval feels nervous at 150 - 160 kmph which is about it's top speed at eastern creek. Or maybe it's just me.
I back off at about the 50m mark into turn one and let the aerodynamics, or lack of, slow me down. Then I get back on the gas when I turn in and hold it flat until a breath after the 100m mark into turn 2. I think.
I haven't run there properly since the Dutton Rally in 2007 when I think I did a 2:00.3.
I find turn 1 and turn 4 the most hair raising.
I figured out at some point that the average speed to do a 2 minute lap is about 120 kmph.
CT
My oval feels nervous at 150 - 160 kmph which is about it's top speed at eastern creek. Or maybe it's just me.
I back off at about the 50m mark into turn one and let the aerodynamics, or lack of, slow me down. Then I get back on the gas when I turn in and hold it flat until a breath after the 100m mark into turn 2. I think.
I haven't run there properly since the Dutton Rally in 2007 when I think I did a 2:00.3.
I find turn 1 and turn 4 the most hair raising.
I figured out at some point that the average speed to do a 2 minute lap is about 120 kmph.
CT
ian.mezz ·
what time do the gates open???fullnoise wrote:The Morgan Club is hosting a round of the Combined Sports Car Association supersprint series this coming Saturday 21st August at Eastern Creek.
I'm going to bring a jar of termites to sabotage the Morgan competitor's partially wooden cars.
🥷
we were going to race but because we have to vote, we will be down later to watch.
fullnoise ·
2 minutes seems slow.
The Cyber Evo from Japan which we brought out for World Time Attack (Why I wasn't at the VW Nationals) did a 1:30 beating the V8 Supercar record on R-spec tyres (Plug - Yokohama ADVAN of course).
Click here to see a 1:30 lap in the Cyber Evo
This thing is light and wind tunnel tested.
The Cyber Evo from Japan which we brought out for World Time Attack (Why I wasn't at the VW Nationals) did a 1:30 beating the V8 Supercar record on R-spec tyres (Plug - Yokohama ADVAN of course).
Click here to see a 1:30 lap in the Cyber Evo
This thing is light and wind tunnel tested.
fullnoise ·
Hi Ian,
Jak and I will be there eating Pastizzis from 7:15 but racing won't start until about 9.
Then we'll spend most of the day standing around (hopefully) not under my car fixing problems.
There's supposed to be a big classic car show on the same weekend. They're highlighting the fact there will be an old double decker bus there, so it's obviously going to be chock-a-block full of errrr.....well..... interesting people. 🤓
Man I'm having fun with those smiley icons today. There's one for everything.
CT
Jak and I will be there eating Pastizzis from 7:15 but racing won't start until about 9.
Then we'll spend most of the day standing around (hopefully) not under my car fixing problems.
There's supposed to be a big classic car show on the same weekend. They're highlighting the fact there will be an old double decker bus there, so it's obviously going to be chock-a-block full of errrr.....well..... interesting people. 🤓
Man I'm having fun with those smiley icons today. There's one for everything.
CT
ian.mezz ·
If Rose brings her helmet , do you think she could go on the observation lap thingy with you of Jak???fullnoise wrote:Hi Ian,
Jak and I will be there eating Pastizzis from 7:15 but racing won't start until about 9.
Then we'll spend most of the day standing around (hopefully) not under my car fixing problems.
There's supposed to be a big classic car show on the same weekend. They're highlighting the fact there will be an old double decker bus there, so it's obviously going to be chock-a-block full of errrr.....well..... interesting people. 🤓
Man I'm having fun with those smiley icons today. There's one for everything.
CT
sander288 ·
I'll be there, I'll try and get there by about 9, is it right to come down to the pits at eastern creek?
fullnoise ·
Timed laps start at 9:30.
The entry to the pits will probably be the only gate open. If there isn't too many people you can probably park in the pits. If it's busy you may have to park on the grass before the tunnel and walk to the pits.
I think turn 2 🙅 or the hill between 5 and 6 🙅 are good spots to watch. You can drive your car right up to the fence.
CYA
The entry to the pits will probably be the only gate open. If there isn't too many people you can probably park in the pits. If it's busy you may have to park on the grass before the tunnel and walk to the pits.
I think turn 2 🙅 or the hill between 5 and 6 🙅 are good spots to watch. You can drive your car right up to the fence.
CYA
Craig Torrens ·
I went out today to have a look.............3 Vw's, and they all sounded and looked good on the track.
Perfect weather, and a great mix of cars 👍
I'm not sure of the times, but I'm sure CT will post up.
Perfect weather, and a great mix of cars 👍
I'm not sure of the times, but I'm sure CT will post up.
Ollie ·
Loved the three dubs! Was out there having a a chat with ct 🙂
Was I talking to you Craig? About strip clubs in Vegas...? 😁
Was I talking to you Craig? About strip clubs in Vegas...? 😁
Craig Torrens ·
Ha Ha......not me, but happy to compare notes re Vegas ! 😉
I had my toddler daughter with me and another VW dude !
I had my toddler daughter with me and another VW dude !
sander288 ·
I went out there today, watched one run had a chat but couldn't stand the wind in my T-shirt... they are out there next weekend too I think?
fullnoise ·
It was a great day.
I was nervous about piloting my beetle around at such high speeds.
I got to the track, well the queue outside the track, about 7 am and pulled up directly behind Jak's beetle. It was interesting to compare the two cars. It was the first time we've parked our cars together since Jak painted his gunmetal grey. His paint job is much darker. It's more sinister with the window tint and the black racing wheels.
After scrutineering Jak and I drank our strong coffees and had a couple of cheese pastizzis. Then a third VW turned up owned by a guy named Troy (I think). His nicely presented dark green beetle apparently has a fuel injected 1955cc engine which sounds sweet. He and Jak were in the blue group.
All up there were about 100 competitors. The field was made up of Lotus Elise/Exige, Triumph TR7s, MGs, Morgans, Mk2 and XJ6 Jags and a wide variety of other British cars, one of which was the same brand as my coffee machine, a Sunbeam.
I was in the white group. White was the slowest group and there were 2 or 3 white groups and about 40% of the competitors were in this group. With 16 cars on the track each time there was a lot of traffic. On my second run I got caught in a queue of 9 cars within a lap. So I dropped back to about 40 kmph let everyone get ahead, then gunned it into the final few turns and gave my lap time a good wriggle, but I caught an MX5 in turn 5 which killed my exit speed.
For the next 2 sessions I managed to be at the front of my group and got a clear run. Nobody caught me all weekend.
Unfortunately I couldn't crack the 2 minute mark. I came close with a PB of 2:00.14 into a stiff headwind. My previous best was a 2:00.3 in the Dutton rally which came on a day there was no wind and I was really comfortable with the car having driven it solidly for the previous 2 days of the 3 day event.
A few more laps around there and a bigger ring and pinion with some suspension tweaks and the sub 2 minute time looks quite achievable.
What a blast though. It really gets the adrenalin pumping, even in a car that doesn't feel like it has that much power. I managed to spin it 180 degrees at turn 6. At least I was trying. I think I gave it a pretty good crack.
Best of all the car had no problems. The oil catch can managed to solve any breather issues. That was the problem that cut my last run at the creek short.
I was nervous about piloting my beetle around at such high speeds.
I got to the track, well the queue outside the track, about 7 am and pulled up directly behind Jak's beetle. It was interesting to compare the two cars. It was the first time we've parked our cars together since Jak painted his gunmetal grey. His paint job is much darker. It's more sinister with the window tint and the black racing wheels.
After scrutineering Jak and I drank our strong coffees and had a couple of cheese pastizzis. Then a third VW turned up owned by a guy named Troy (I think). His nicely presented dark green beetle apparently has a fuel injected 1955cc engine which sounds sweet. He and Jak were in the blue group.
All up there were about 100 competitors. The field was made up of Lotus Elise/Exige, Triumph TR7s, MGs, Morgans, Mk2 and XJ6 Jags and a wide variety of other British cars, one of which was the same brand as my coffee machine, a Sunbeam.
I was in the white group. White was the slowest group and there were 2 or 3 white groups and about 40% of the competitors were in this group. With 16 cars on the track each time there was a lot of traffic. On my second run I got caught in a queue of 9 cars within a lap. So I dropped back to about 40 kmph let everyone get ahead, then gunned it into the final few turns and gave my lap time a good wriggle, but I caught an MX5 in turn 5 which killed my exit speed.
For the next 2 sessions I managed to be at the front of my group and got a clear run. Nobody caught me all weekend.
Unfortunately I couldn't crack the 2 minute mark. I came close with a PB of 2:00.14 into a stiff headwind. My previous best was a 2:00.3 in the Dutton rally which came on a day there was no wind and I was really comfortable with the car having driven it solidly for the previous 2 days of the 3 day event.
A few more laps around there and a bigger ring and pinion with some suspension tweaks and the sub 2 minute time looks quite achievable.
What a blast though. It really gets the adrenalin pumping, even in a car that doesn't feel like it has that much power. I managed to spin it 180 degrees at turn 6. At least I was trying. I think I gave it a pretty good crack.
Best of all the car had no problems. The oil catch can managed to solve any breather issues. That was the problem that cut my last run at the creek short.
sander288 ·
is it just me or does CT try to get a shot of his rubber in every photo ❓
hellbugged ·
sure sounds and looks like fun CT........thanks for keeping us updated
found this one of the notch on 3........got me wondering at which part of the corner your's lifts a wheel (or 2)......last bit of turning in.... apexing....on the power ?
i can't quite tell from the pics
Daimo
found this one of the notch on 3........got me wondering at which part of the corner your's lifts a wheel (or 2)......last bit of turning in.... apexing....on the power ?
i can't quite tell from the pics
Daimo
PAZZAN ·
is that wakefield Damien????
Craig Torrens ·
hellbugged wrote:sure sounds and looks like fun CT........thanks for keeping us updated
found this one of the notch on 3........got me wondering at which part of the corner your's lifts a wheel (or 2)......last bit of turning in.... apexing....on the power ?
i can't quite tell from the pics
Daimo
Have a look look at the rear tyre being pulled off the rim !
hellbugged ·
yeah Wakefield onto the straight Paul.well onto the power there and a bit of opposite lock by the looks.....i have a disc of photos to send to you as well
yes Craig.....tyres have marks up to rims edge,🤪 front and back..........they are small on the rims and unbelievable they don't break the bead off yes......interestigly, the intermediate tyres do the same thing on the cookie cutters tho
we needed to play with so much on the day it wasn't funny, unfortunately all our time was spent bleeding brakes (sorry Paul 😊)
those tyres are definately shot after Raleigh so new ones in order. not sure how they came to end up with Jeff, but something about being for formula holden (maybe) and for sure too soft in the side wall. ..........i'll make sure they're right this time, well as best as someone who still don't know shiz anyways
yes Craig.....tyres have marks up to rims edge,🤪 front and back..........they are small on the rims and unbelievable they don't break the bead off yes......interestigly, the intermediate tyres do the same thing on the cookie cutters tho
we needed to play with so much on the day it wasn't funny, unfortunately all our time was spent bleeding brakes (sorry Paul 😊)
those tyres are definately shot after Raleigh so new ones in order. not sure how they came to end up with Jeff, but something about being for formula holden (maybe) and for sure too soft in the side wall. ..........i'll make sure they're right this time, well as best as someone who still don't know shiz anyways
fullnoise ·
Nice shot of the notch.
I don't think the car is missing out on front end grip by having that wheel in the air.
I was going to comment on the rear.
What hot tyre pressures are you running?
I've found 32 works in the rear of my car. I started dropping it at Eastern Creek which caused me to start seesawing at the wheel as the sidewall was falling over which would've been around 26 or 27 hot. I guess it would've looked something like your car.
Did I hear something about converting the notch back to VW power?
I don't think the car is missing out on front end grip by having that wheel in the air.
I was going to comment on the rear.
What hot tyre pressures are you running?
I've found 32 works in the rear of my car. I started dropping it at Eastern Creek which caused me to start seesawing at the wheel as the sidewall was falling over which would've been around 26 or 27 hot. I guess it would've looked something like your car.
Did I hear something about converting the notch back to VW power?
hellbugged ·
yeah it's a cool shot CT.....tyre pressures cold in the high teens, coming back 6psi more hot.
got to admit i don't know enough on those sorts of things, it's just been a haul and then some to get it so pressures are high on the list. and yes i know that sounds stupid but in reality if the car is not running hard, there is no point having anything more than square wheels on it 🥲
anyways, as you have described, the car was needing a lot of steering input at Wakefield. we were having a good look at those tyres at Raleigh 2010 and discussing what we were seeing. i know soem people run as low as single digit PSI in AVONS!
" back to aircooled"....there is an oxy boxer motor long block that we would like to finish off for this car yes (supercharged, intercooled, EFI)........but in reality it prolly won't happen till something goes bang in the subie motor or the set up is a lot more developed, even then with an increasing number of drivers in the HELLBUG camp., we will look at doing another couple of cars before we change this one. the good go gear is there, it just needs someone to piece it all together
the notch has been the only race car that Jeff has owned that turns up to consecative events with no development in between 👍.........that record is over now. i want to go at LEAST five seconds quicker at Wakefield 2011 if all the plans come to fruition. i'll need to start soon 🤓
got to admit i don't know enough on those sorts of things, it's just been a haul and then some to get it so pressures are high on the list. and yes i know that sounds stupid but in reality if the car is not running hard, there is no point having anything more than square wheels on it 🥲
anyways, as you have described, the car was needing a lot of steering input at Wakefield. we were having a good look at those tyres at Raleigh 2010 and discussing what we were seeing. i know soem people run as low as single digit PSI in AVONS!
" back to aircooled"....there is an oxy boxer motor long block that we would like to finish off for this car yes (supercharged, intercooled, EFI)........but in reality it prolly won't happen till something goes bang in the subie motor or the set up is a lot more developed, even then with an increasing number of drivers in the HELLBUG camp., we will look at doing another couple of cars before we change this one. the good go gear is there, it just needs someone to piece it all together
the notch has been the only race car that Jeff has owned that turns up to consecative events with no development in between 👍.........that record is over now. i want to go at LEAST five seconds quicker at Wakefield 2011 if all the plans come to fruition. i'll need to start soon 🤓