alternators

hi guys another question. this site proving more valuable then i thought. ok my problem, im making my T3 into a show car i want vw to be seen as cool and get the respect they deserve from the younger crowd. so i been spending heaps of dosh doing most of the work myself and have just put in a massive competition sound system with fold down tv n the lot but my alternator is to little and i cant power it all so what can i use that will fit my baby and power my battery?

MaD HoUsE wrote:hi guys another question. this site proving more valuable then i thought. ok my problem, im making my T3 into a show car i want vw to be seen as cool and get the respect they deserve from the younger crowd. so i been spending heaps of dosh doing most of the work myself and have just put in a massive competition sound system with fold down tv n the lot but my alternator is too little and i cant power it all so what can i use that will fit my baby and power my battery?

As far as I know there are NO alternators to fit type 3 engines
only generators... which don't put out much current..
You may have to use two large batteries...??
which will still be hard for the generator to charge...

Alternators are larger than generators and were never designed to fit the type 3 engine.

If You have fitted a type 1 beetle engine then You can get an alternator for it... 51 or 75 amperes..
as they were fitted to late model beetles..

cheers

LEE

PS: its a type 3 .. a T3 is a Kombi as is a T25 etc...

You got any pix of you car.

I haven't confirmed it yet as I don't have alternator to play with yet. I hypothesis that you can use a type 1 alternator, mount a pulley on the other end (where the fan would be) and then mount it backwards in the type 3.

And I also recon if it can fit? to install an alternator fan pulley on the original pulley end. That will serve as the cooling for the alternator as there is no air port like the type 3 generator. it will pull air through the alternator
from belt housing out through the fan on what used to be the front of the alternator.

In case you are wondering, alternators work in both directions of rotation as they are a 3 phase alternating current generator, which is rectified via the diodes in the rectifier to provide DC.

Oh and an alt will be no good for a show car since it needs to be running to charge. You will need to install an inverter, and plug it in to run everything.

inverter? you mean the other way around.

But I think he wants it so it doesn't just die while using the car.

One guy here, modded up an alternator to fit, was some custom work.... give him some time he might find this and reply

But don't loose hope. Just cause there was no factory option doesn't mean it can't be retrofitted 👍

vlad01 wrote:inverter? you mean the other way around.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MP3090&keywords=40+amp+power&form=KEYWORD

lol 40 amps.

you need ?? well depends on the sound system but most serious systems require anywhere up of 75 amp. I have seen some systems well over 250 amps 🤪

3 alternators just to run the car. Can't remember how many batteries ❓

Sorry man, It was an example.

Heath, just ask this guy about everything. He knows it all 🤪

theres a few people around that have adapted modern car alternators to fit type3 pancake engines

Im pretty sure mickH or someone on here has pictures somewhere of how they did it

Edit* like so...

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=78941

bajachris88 wrote:One guy here, modded up an alternator to fit, was some custom work.... give him some time he might find this and reply

But don't loose hope. Just cause there was no factory option doesn't mean it can't be retrofitted 👍

Not much room in a suitcase engine Chris...

if the cover wasn't over the engine, would be easy to add a couple of alternators, but when the whole lot fits in a suitcase..

not much room...

He could always use a type 1 engine accessories and use a beetle 51 or 75 amp alternator...
or maybe two....

I think subarus have the alternator on top ??

LEE

Just found this.....
http://www.aircoolednut.com/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm

thats right, it was Mick H as Joel stated 👍

MaD HoUsE wrote:..........im making my T3 into a show car............. but my alternator is to little and i cant power it all.........

He calls it a T3 and it already has an alternator.....maybe it's a T3 (not a type 3) as is a type 25 wbxr kombi???

MaD HoUsE wrote:my alternator is to little

Don't worry, they say that size doesn't matter.🙅

I thought that too Matt, but then I realised its in the type3 section not watercooled ??

zocstar wrote:Just found this.....
http://www.aircoolednut.com/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm

that's an excellent article....

anyone with a type 3 can upgrade to an alternator...

they are dirt cheap at wrecking yards...

LEE

Hey madhouse project sound really interesting I've yet to see a big sound system with screens look good in a classic car they tend but if your mission is to make young kids like it then that's certainly gun a win points and hey Darryl mcbeth made magnas cool so anything is possible!! Haha... Any pics or other plans ideas wheels suspension interior body / chassis mods??? I look forward to seeing more sounds like a great project..

Ps here's a pic to show you what I mean about the magna
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2854/4161/7134580001_medium.jpg

Hey madhouse project sound really interesting I've yet to see a big sound system with screens look good in a classic car they tend but if your mission is to make young kids like it then that's certainly gun a win points and hey Darryl mcbeth made magnas cool so anything is possible!! Haha... Any pics or other plans ideas wheels suspension interior body / chassis mods??? I look forward to seeing more sounds like a great project..

Ps here's a pic to show you what I mean about the magna
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2854/4161/7134580001_medium.jpg

Lots of threads on this at the samba.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=400510

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=335193

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=377832

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=421619&highlight=alternator

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=417192&highlight=alternator

hey thanks heaps for all the help guys thankfully things dont look so bleak now. i was thinking of making a thread to show you guys what ive been doing with my car but i wasn't sure if people would think i was an attention seeking newbie so i dunno if you see it you will no its me due to the big MAD HOUSE sticker, feel free to pull me over and chat

by the way its a type 3 sorry about the wrong abbreviation