http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1952-Volkswagen-Beetle-Split-Oval-/260691213339?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3cb2683c1b
This is awesome whats it worth and whos bidding on it?
dubai ·
Aussieveedubbers · General Chit Chat
1952 split window BEETLE SOLD on ebay
https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/87113/1952-split-window-beetle-sold-on-ebay
farkengruven ·
Not that much. I dont think its a real split.....Look closely at the details.dubai wrote:This is awesome whats it worth
dubai ·
Tell me what to look for it looks the part to me.
Paulc1964au ·
I'd say $20K plus
hellbugged ·
real split
farkengruven ·
I am sure some experts will jump in and correct me if i am wrong.......
A 1952 split window will have cooling vents on the front quarter panels. It will not have chrome molds in the back window rubber. It will not have vent windows on the doors.
The next model was called a Switter, but it should have a dash like an oval window beetle. The engine tinware looks like a 1953/43 engine, and according to thsamba, the engine number is from late 1953 or 1954. The VIN doesn't match anything according to thesamba. I think some other parts are wrong also, but not 100% on them.
A 1952 split window will have cooling vents on the front quarter panels. It will not have chrome molds in the back window rubber. It will not have vent windows on the doors.
The next model was called a Switter, but it should have a dash like an oval window beetle. The engine tinware looks like a 1953/43 engine, and according to thsamba, the engine number is from late 1953 or 1954. The VIN doesn't match anything according to thesamba. I think some other parts are wrong also, but not 100% on them.
hellbugged ·
😁........it's had 8 more bids and gone up $1600 since this thread came up
hellbugged ·
you will find the samba has great details and numbers for USA spec carsfarkengruven wrote:I am sure some experts will jump in and correct me if i am wrong.......
A 1952 split window will have cooling vents on the front quarter panels. It will not have chrome molds in the back window rubber. It will not have vent windows on the doors.
The next model was called a Switter, but it should have a dash like an oval window beetle. The engine tinware looks like a 1953/43 engine, and according to thsamba, the engine number is from late 1953 or 1954. The VIN doesn't match anything according to thesamba. I think some other parts are wrong also, but not 100% on them.
ragged ·
It's worth what you get for it. Looks the real deal to me.
My best guess $22,500
My best guess $22,500
type3disease ·
he says its from Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) so who knows exactly what the specs are or where it was built
but looks to have a lot of NQR bits - very possibly a zwitter but doesn't explain the dash
but who know - and I find it hard to believe its a factory RHD wasn't there only a few hundred of them...(stand corrected if someone can enlighten me)
we used to bolt together friday arvo specials here with whatever parts we had hence the three different models you see in 1960
still looks cool - but hope the new owner does work out what they do or don't end up with...
i like the blue...!
but looks to have a lot of NQR bits - very possibly a zwitter but doesn't explain the dash
but who know - and I find it hard to believe its a factory RHD wasn't there only a few hundred of them...(stand corrected if someone can enlighten me)
we used to bolt together friday arvo specials here with whatever parts we had hence the three different models you see in 1960
still looks cool - but hope the new owner does work out what they do or don't end up with...
i like the blue...!
type3disease ·
do you know more?hellbugged wrote:real split
very keen to find out
Pm if you wish...
cheers Ben
1303Steve ·
Hi
I know the seller, I've never seen the car though, you know him as well Damo.
Steve
I know the seller, I've never seen the car though, you know him as well Damo.
Steve
h ·
ooh the plot thickens..
type3disease ·
shed any light 1303Steve...?
vw54 ·
yep real split
type3disease ·
thanks for the insightful info
I'm happy that you all know the owner and believe it to be a real split but there are so many incorrect parts on it that it just doesn't add up
so if you do know the owner or are helping to boost the sale by commenting that it is real
could you all please explain:
the tail lights
the front guards
the bonnet
the chrome body trim
the lack of crotch coolers
possibly the seats
the chrome trim in the rear windows
the vent windows in the doors
and god knows what else
I'm trying to be realistic and ascertain some info on the car
is it a 52 split? was it a Standard? was it a Zwitter with a dash graft? or is it a 54 with some extra grafting?
I'm happy that you all know the owner and believe it to be a real split but there are so many incorrect parts on it that it just doesn't add up
so if you do know the owner or are helping to boost the sale by commenting that it is real
could you all please explain:
the tail lights
the front guards
the bonnet
the chrome body trim
the lack of crotch coolers
possibly the seats
the chrome trim in the rear windows
the vent windows in the doors
and god knows what else
I'm trying to be realistic and ascertain some info on the car
is it a 52 split? was it a Standard? was it a Zwitter with a dash graft? or is it a 54 with some extra grafting?
h ·
erm.. maybe it would be pertinent to put those questions direct to the seller?
don't u think?
better to be direct n transparent thru the egay thing than 3rd hand info that anybody can offer
it's an old beetle looks in ok nic n will prolly get big bucks at the end of the day..
don't u think?
better to be direct n transparent thru the egay thing than 3rd hand info that anybody can offer
it's an old beetle looks in ok nic n will prolly get big bucks at the end of the day..
Joel ·
GOd damn its a 58 year old car, ofcourse its gonna have the odd non original part, last time i checked most vw suppliers didnt carry period correct split parts 😂,
RHD is interesting though
But for the most part its all pretty original, 52 was the last year of crotch coolers, there was bound to be some after that without them, Ive certainly seen a couple on the samba without them, also sporting hearts and various other bits similar to this one
dont quote me on it but from memory cable brakes finished when zwitters started too, on export models anwya
RHD is interesting though
But for the most part its all pretty original, 52 was the last year of crotch coolers, there was bound to be some after that without them, Ive certainly seen a couple on the samba without them, also sporting hearts and various other bits similar to this one
dont quote me on it but from memory cable brakes finished when zwitters started too, on export models anwya
Phil74Camper ·
I'm not familiar with the car, but if was originally purchased in Zimbabwe, then it could well have been assembled in South Africa rather than Wolfsburg. VW began assembling CKD kits at Uitenhage in August 1951. If so, then it could easily be a 'bitsa' with parts from different years mixed in.
http://www.vw.co.za/about/history/
The engine number matches a late 1953 engine, but that could have been changed at any time, years ago. I don't think anyone reasonably expects a 58-year old car to still have its orginal engine. It's close, anyhow. But the chassis number puzzles me. Early cars did have the '1-' prefix, so that's not the problem, but after that there seems to be too many digits. 1-2340509. If we drop the 9 it means a 1951 car - too old (220,134 - 313,829). However if we ignore the 2, then 340509 matches a 1952 chassis (318,830 - 428,156). My theory is that, if it is indeed a South African CKD car, the Uitenhage factory may have restamped the number with a '1-2' prefix to indicate a non Wolfsburg car. I can't make sense of the chassis number otherwise.
Only German 'export' models had vents in the front quarter panels, and they were only for 1951. It's quite reasonable for a 1952 car to not have them, especially if the body shell is a CKD stamping. Likewise the earlier dash. A German-stamped body shell would have been shipped to South Africa then processed, assembled and finished - it could easily have been finished six months after a similar German-made car. German 1952 cars changed to 15" wheels, but CKD cars could have still used old stock of 16" ones. It uses the 1952 vent window doors but seems to have the earlier engine lid handle. Chrome trim around the windows is not so strange - even some German export models had window chrome in 1951.
http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html
I think it's important not to get too focussed on what US websites say about Wolfsburg-made models for the US market. There are lots of interesting exceptions from other VW factories from around the world.
http://www.vw.co.za/about/history/
The engine number matches a late 1953 engine, but that could have been changed at any time, years ago. I don't think anyone reasonably expects a 58-year old car to still have its orginal engine. It's close, anyhow. But the chassis number puzzles me. Early cars did have the '1-' prefix, so that's not the problem, but after that there seems to be too many digits. 1-2340509. If we drop the 9 it means a 1951 car - too old (220,134 - 313,829). However if we ignore the 2, then 340509 matches a 1952 chassis (318,830 - 428,156). My theory is that, if it is indeed a South African CKD car, the Uitenhage factory may have restamped the number with a '1-2' prefix to indicate a non Wolfsburg car. I can't make sense of the chassis number otherwise.
Only German 'export' models had vents in the front quarter panels, and they were only for 1951. It's quite reasonable for a 1952 car to not have them, especially if the body shell is a CKD stamping. Likewise the earlier dash. A German-stamped body shell would have been shipped to South Africa then processed, assembled and finished - it could easily have been finished six months after a similar German-made car. German 1952 cars changed to 15" wheels, but CKD cars could have still used old stock of 16" ones. It uses the 1952 vent window doors but seems to have the earlier engine lid handle. Chrome trim around the windows is not so strange - even some German export models had window chrome in 1951.
http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html
I think it's important not to get too focussed on what US websites say about Wolfsburg-made models for the US market. There are lots of interesting exceptions from other VW factories from around the world.
matberry ·
I think you better read up a little VW history or model designation, or maybe stick to type 3's.type3disease wrote:thanks for the insightful info
I'm happy that you all know the owner and believe it to be a real split but there are so many incorrect parts on it that it just doesn't add up
so if you do know the owner or are helping to boost the sale by commenting that it is real
could you all please explain:
the tail lights
the front guards
the bonnet
the chrome body trim
the lack of crotch coolers
possibly the seats
the chrome trim in the rear windows
the vent windows in the doors
and god knows what else
I'm trying to be realistic and ascertain some info on the car
is it a 52 split? was it a Standard? was it a Zwitter with a dash graft? or is it a 54 with some extra grafting?
IIRC
Crotch coolers are a 1 year only,
Zwitter is such a cool word everyone seems to want to use it, but there are so few of them out there, it's the last of the splits that actually got an oval dash, very few were made.
As for the rest.......well, Phill has the right idea, ask the seller.
type3disease ·
Paul (h) I am asking the seller these questions too but thought i'd also ask on here as forums are a great way of finding out info a seller may not want to disclose or may not even know himself
plenty of chop top beetles on the market where the owner firmly believes its a factory convertible - so sharing is caring...
Thanks Phil
thats the sort of info I was hoping for just trying to make sense of the car
I don't for a minute expect that a car of this age will be 100% correct esp here in Australia
I for one know how hard it is to source the correct bits n bobs for these period of cars
And thanks all the same for your comments Matberry but my history lesson is better served without your helpful comments
as far as sticking to type3's mate.... don't be fooled by the user name...😵
- what's wrong with wanting to learn a bit more about a split beetle - the numbers and parts don't add up...! thats all I'm saying and if anyone, myself included, was going to invest the sort of coin this will go for - I'd like to gather all the info I can from a variety of sources...
and again am more than happy to hear from the people who state that it is a real split, thats cool I'm just asking how sure you are...?
plenty of chop top beetles on the market where the owner firmly believes its a factory convertible - so sharing is caring...
Thanks Phil
thats the sort of info I was hoping for just trying to make sense of the car
I don't for a minute expect that a car of this age will be 100% correct esp here in Australia
I for one know how hard it is to source the correct bits n bobs for these period of cars
And thanks all the same for your comments Matberry but my history lesson is better served without your helpful comments
as far as sticking to type3's mate.... don't be fooled by the user name...😵
- what's wrong with wanting to learn a bit more about a split beetle - the numbers and parts don't add up...! thats all I'm saying and if anyone, myself included, was going to invest the sort of coin this will go for - I'd like to gather all the info I can from a variety of sources...
and again am more than happy to hear from the people who state that it is a real split, thats cool I'm just asking how sure you are...?
h ·
thats cool bentype3disease wrote:Paul (h) I am asking the seller these questions too but thought i'd also ask on here as forums are a great way of finding out info a seller may not want to disclose or may not even know himself
plenty of chop top beetles on the market where the owner firmly believes its a factory convertible - so sharing is caring...
Thanks Phil
thats the sort of info I was hoping for just trying to make sense of the car
I don't for a minute expect that a car of this age will be 100% correct esp here in Australia
I for one know how hard it is to source the correct bits n bobs for these period of cars
And thanks all the same for your comments Matberry but my history lesson is better served without your helpful comments
as far as sticking to type3's mate.... don't be fooled by the user name...😵
- what's wrong with wanting to learn a bit more about a split beetle - the numbers and parts don't add up...! thats all I'm saying and if anyone, myself included, was going to invest the sort of coin this will go for - I'd like to gather all the info I can from a variety of sources...
and again am more than happy to hear from the people who state that it is a real split, thats cool I'm just asking how sure you are...?
however the way the post was framed was alluding to me that the obvious wasn't being asked
good to know u will be caring and sharing but all n all 'don't care bears' rule 😂
matberry ·
Nothing wrong with wanting to learn, but I'm buggered if I can understand how you can question so many things from a few pictures. Ive been around these cars for some time now, and even worked on a split or two, but window chrome, crotch coolers and tail lights and guards, come on, what were you thinking? I think your history lesson is moving foward with my comments, otherwise you may still think all splits didn't have window trim, or crotch coolers.
farkengruven ·
Matberry, you appear to be knowledgeable on these early cars.
So, did all splits have the rear window trim? If not, which and when did they have them?
You mentioned that the crotch coolers were 1 years only. Which year was that?
So, did all splits have the rear window trim? If not, which and when did they have them?
You mentioned that the crotch coolers were 1 years only. Which year was that?
type3disease ·
what I was thinking was trying to determine how genuine the car is, was or wasn't
i've been round vw's for a little while now too and no greater learning curve than the one I'm on at the moment...
I'm trying to restore a 52 at the moment and know very well which models 'should' have had chrome trim on the rear window and that crotch coolers are a "one year only" item for want of a better term
but that included part of 51 and 52 (and may or may not include export models?)
so this car is looking more and more like a 53...? but more questions will probably need to follow
i've been round vw's for a little while now too and no greater learning curve than the one I'm on at the moment...
I'm trying to restore a 52 at the moment and know very well which models 'should' have had chrome trim on the rear window and that crotch coolers are a "one year only" item for want of a better term
but that included part of 51 and 52 (and may or may not include export models?)
so this car is looking more and more like a 53...? but more questions will probably need to follow
vw54 ·
crutch coolers or front 1/4 panel vents were on 51s only
Standards had no rear window interior trim
Standards had no rear window interior trim
volumex ·
It will be fascinating to see what it finally sells for. I doubt the purists will be bidding too much for it, it would take plenty of time and money to get it back to being original.
bajachris88 ·
Um.... dudes... regardless.. its awesome. case closed 👍 😂
i don't mind a set of fake boobs... its still boobs in the end...
i don't mind a set of fake boobs... its still boobs in the end...
dubai ·
you have a good point!!!!! Ha Ha
farkengruven ·
......and a man-gina?bajachris88 wrote:Um.... dudes... regardless.. its awesome. case closed 👍 😂
i don't mind a set of fake boobs... its still boobs in the end...
NUG637 ·
man, bit sad your gettin burnt around here for asking questions? i agree i would role it any day of the week (if i had the money) but would be cool to know the real history of the car and how alot of 54 styles parts ended up on it?
NUG637 ·
p.s. give me real boobs over fakes any day of the week... 👍
h ·
getting burnt?? WTF!! apply SPF n get on with it foolin funny I need tissues to qipw up the tears
give me a break
ditto real boobs over fake as well I agree 😀
give me a break
ditto real boobs over fake as well I agree 😀
matberry ·
Just reread thread and add.
Type3disease, sorry if I was too hard on you, your post sounded to me with your 'god only knows' to be so sceptical.......so have a couple of bags of crete.
The answers given on ebay to peoples questions regarding originality all make sense to me.
Be a nice purchase.
Interesting to see $$$
Type3disease, sorry if I was too hard on you, your post sounded to me with your 'god only knows' to be so sceptical.......so have a couple of bags of crete.
The answers given on ebay to peoples questions regarding originality all make sense to me.
Be a nice purchase.
Interesting to see $$$
NUG637 ·
h your my hero, you must be coolh wrote:getting burnt?? WTF!! apply SPF n get on with it foolin funny I need tissues to qipw up the tears
give me a break
ditto real boobs over fake as well I agree 😀
SMB 😘
Matberry - i to am interested to see how it goes for $$$
wolfgang54 ·
saw this boat displayed over a year ago. was on a trailer then
sign said it was a 1952 and 1/2 ?
sign said it was a 1952 and 1/2 ?
rose ·
I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there.🤪🤪 I can only dream.😂
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string😂😂😂
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there.🤪🤪 I can only dream.😂
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string😂😂😂
wolfgang54 ·
some kiwis are telling me it 'could' even for that (30k) or more!
58camper ·
Here is another two bobs worth on this topic.
October 1952 brought many changes to the Beetle as a result of a worldwide Quality Improvement program commenced by Wolfsburg in April 1952 and finishing in mid 1954. The late 1952 model (as distinct from the early 1952 had many changes including;
1.Syncro on 2nd,3rd and 4th
2.Redesinged instrument panel
3.Vent wing added to doors
4 Rim sizes reduced down to 15 inch
5.New side body moldings introduced
6.Rear boot handle made into a T piece
7.Front boot handle modified and made longer
8.Access plate dropped from luggage area under carpet
9.Torsion bars reduced from 25mm to 24mm
There were many others.
Late 1952 vehicles commenced with chassis # 1-0397023
I see the seller states the "2'" in the chassis # 1-2340509
id difficult to read. If this # "2" is really an "0" and I suspect it is, then this is a mid to late produced 1952 vehicle albeit with a number of late model parts including
-chrome on the rear split windows
-vent wings on door.
-heart tail lights
The real giveaway to me would be
1. the location of the inside reading light and if it was sitting above the split window at rear of the vehicle
I dont have any concern this is a genuine split.
The motor looks like a 1954 model as best I can tell.
I think Phil might be on the money with his comments around the CKD production in South Africa. It happened here in Clayton so why not South Africa.
My call is a pre October 1952 production.
countrybuggybill ( and no expert on Split Beetles.)
October 1952 brought many changes to the Beetle as a result of a worldwide Quality Improvement program commenced by Wolfsburg in April 1952 and finishing in mid 1954. The late 1952 model (as distinct from the early 1952 had many changes including;
1.Syncro on 2nd,3rd and 4th
2.Redesinged instrument panel
3.Vent wing added to doors
4 Rim sizes reduced down to 15 inch
5.New side body moldings introduced
6.Rear boot handle made into a T piece
7.Front boot handle modified and made longer
8.Access plate dropped from luggage area under carpet
9.Torsion bars reduced from 25mm to 24mm
There were many others.
Late 1952 vehicles commenced with chassis # 1-0397023
I see the seller states the "2'" in the chassis # 1-2340509
id difficult to read. If this # "2" is really an "0" and I suspect it is, then this is a mid to late produced 1952 vehicle albeit with a number of late model parts including
-chrome on the rear split windows
-vent wings on door.
-heart tail lights
The real giveaway to me would be
1. the location of the inside reading light and if it was sitting above the split window at rear of the vehicle
I dont have any concern this is a genuine split.
The motor looks like a 1954 model as best I can tell.
I think Phil might be on the money with his comments around the CKD production in South Africa. It happened here in Clayton so why not South Africa.
My call is a pre October 1952 production.
countrybuggybill ( and no expert on Split Beetles.)
wolfgang54 ·
good info
the engine number when i saw it last was 1 0694993
the engine number when i saw it last was 1 0694993
RISKY4LIFE ·
Dang ill take the fakes over old sages anyday
it's out of my pice range when it hit a buck fifty
it's out of my pice range when it hit a buck fifty
type3disease ·
thanks countrybuggybill this is the sorta stuff I wanna see and read
would love to know your source internet or books? if you're happy to share - this is very handy info in helping me answer questions about my own car - and shed some light on this one for sale
I'd genuinely like to invest in this one too and am just trying to get ahead of the 8 ball on it so I know what I am or not in for... (not that my budget will neccissarily see me successful - fingers crossed)
thanks again Mattberry a bigger man might apologies without the concrete comments - so you read my question wrong - mate don't be hard on yourself - thats the thing with the internet you don't always hear the tone or pitch of someones voice to determine what angle they might be coming from... but thats cool mate you're only human too...!
would love to know your source internet or books? if you're happy to share - this is very handy info in helping me answer questions about my own car - and shed some light on this one for sale
I'd genuinely like to invest in this one too and am just trying to get ahead of the 8 ball on it so I know what I am or not in for... (not that my budget will neccissarily see me successful - fingers crossed)
thanks again Mattberry a bigger man might apologies without the concrete comments - so you read my question wrong - mate don't be hard on yourself - thats the thing with the internet you don't always hear the tone or pitch of someones voice to determine what angle they might be coming from... but thats cool mate you're only human too...!
Dak-A-Tak ·
Everyone check out ,
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/cat.php?id=65
will give you a good Idea on value or maybe what you can find for sale and prices .
Would look just right in my garage , lowed and nice wheels .
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/cat.php?id=65
will give you a good Idea on value or maybe what you can find for sale and prices .
Would look just right in my garage , lowed and nice wheels .
robb ·
yeh good point but we are on an island
hrastovica ·
$17,600
Not bad with a week left.
Not bad with a week left.
Phil74Camper ·
The Samba is a good starting point and a good 'general' reference, but you have to remember that it's a US site and is designed for VWs sold on the US market. The Samba doesn't know about Australian-made VWs - nor South African ones. The Samba's year-by-year changes, chassis numbers, engine codes and paint/trim info is often not correct for non-US cars.
For German year-by-year changes, as Bill has detailed, the very best source is a book series called 'Kafer - Eine Dokumentation' by Heinz Rudiger Etzold. It was published in the '80s, in four volumes. There was an English translated edition called the 'Beetle Chronicles', produced by Safer Motoring Magaine (UK), edited by Robin Wager, although I think they only translated the first three. Volume 1 lists EVERY CHANGE made on the Wolfsburg production line, with dates / chassis numbers. Awesome, but keep in mind this is for German-made VWs. They may not be applicable to Australian, South African, Mexican and Brazilian Beetles, depending on the year.
Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search on 'Etzold' - and they sometimes pop up. This is a typical listing - would be great to get all four (139 Euro)...
http://cgi.ebay.de/Kaefer-Band-1-4-Dokumentation-Modelle-Etzold-/310254184026
For German year-by-year changes, as Bill has detailed, the very best source is a book series called 'Kafer - Eine Dokumentation' by Heinz Rudiger Etzold. It was published in the '80s, in four volumes. There was an English translated edition called the 'Beetle Chronicles', produced by Safer Motoring Magaine (UK), edited by Robin Wager, although I think they only translated the first three. Volume 1 lists EVERY CHANGE made on the Wolfsburg production line, with dates / chassis numbers. Awesome, but keep in mind this is for German-made VWs. They may not be applicable to Australian, South African, Mexican and Brazilian Beetles, depending on the year.
Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search on 'Etzold' - and they sometimes pop up. This is a typical listing - would be great to get all four (139 Euro)...
http://cgi.ebay.de/Kaefer-Band-1-4-Dokumentation-Modelle-Etzold-/310254184026
reub ·
I'll stick with an oval...
sgetty ·
who knows what 'bolt ons' are going to do long termRISKY4LIFE wrote:Dang ill take the fakes over old sages anyday
it's out of my pice range when it hit a buck fifty
real for me!
1303Steve ·
Have we all put our Lotto in?
jedidan ·
rose wrote:I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there.🤪🤪 I can only dream.😂
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string😂😂😂
NO Rose, you're not allowed to use it as a race car......
Bizarre ·
so this was last registered in 1960??
ian.mezz ·
Race it,jedidan wrote:rose wrote:I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there.🤪🤪 I can only dream.😂
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string😂😂😂
NO Rose, you're not allowed to use it as a race car......
I think we Rod it 😂
or dump it.
Bizarre ·
baja it!
rose ·
I have to check my Lotto.😂
Paulc1964au ·
It's up too $17500 with a week to go
handycam ·
😎Bizarre wrote:baja it!
volumex ·
I'd suggest that the factory publication 'Progressive Refinements' would be a better source, as that is where Etzold got his data from. I have both publications and I find Progressive Refinements has more detail. It doesn't list every change (i.e from the VJUR BR2 to VJUR BR3 distributor around Feb 54), and there are a couple of very minor errors - but it is as good as you are going to get 60 years on. But as you have stated, it is only correct for German made or CKD cars.Phil74Camper wrote:For German year-by-year changes, as Bill has detailed, the very best source is a book series called 'Kafer - Eine Dokumentation' by Heinz Rudiger Etzold. It was published in the '80s, in four volumes. There was an English translated edition called the 'Beetle Chronicles', produced by Safer Motoring Magaine (UK), edited by Robin Wager, although I think they only translated the first three. Volume 1 lists EVERY CHANGE made on the Wolfsburg production line, with dates / chassis numbers. Awesome, but keep in mind this is for German-made VWs. They may not be applicable to Australian, South African, Mexican and Brazilian Beetles, depending on the year.
It is available in the interweb if you have a bit of a search.
Rural Baja ·
Where are the interior door and window handles! 😂
ian.mezz ·
😊 $18500 and four days to go.😊
farkengruven ·
No, The windscreen came from another car with the sticker on it.Bizarre wrote:so this was last registered in 1960??
The body shell came to Oz in the 1980's
62RagBeetle ·
It looks good. Any one else from here bidding on it?
Paulc1964au ·
I am watching and would love to bid but unfortunately no lol62RagBeetle wrote:It looks good. Any one else from here bidding on it?
Bizarre ·
mmmmmmmmm....................... 4.5hrs to go and not much movement 😀
wolfgang54 ·
serious dudes may be holding back! lets hope not 😊Bizarre wrote:mmmmmmmmm....................... 4.5hrs to go and not much movement 😀
Paulc1964au ·
its starting to move definitely going to pass $20K
Craig Torrens ·
It will move up 👍
Bizarre ·
meh..................the 54 has almost hit $10k
Sorry CT
Sorry CT
Bizarre ·
Hah!
$14,100 and 1hr 45 mins to go 🤪
$14,100 and 1hr 45 mins to go 🤪
Paulc1964au ·
got a link to the 54?
Bizarre ·
wolfgang54 ·
go the 54 👍 A running original honest bug seems to do well, as they should as you cant 'restore' originality
i imagine the real serious bidders will pop up at the last minute on the 52
A few stressed bidders on their puters tonight... I wonder if their wives know they are bidding 🙂
i imagine the real serious bidders will pop up at the last minute on the 52
A few stressed bidders on their puters tonight... I wonder if their wives know they are bidding 🙂
donn ·
I wonder if their bank managers are bidding. 😵💫
Joel ·
Never ceases to amaze me the moronic questions people ask on ebay auctions 🙄
From the 54 oval auction.....
Q: are you prepared to part this car out?
A: absolutely - and my 5 and 2 year old sons.
Everyman and his dog are parting out original unmolested ovals these days.....😂
From the 54 oval auction.....
Q: are you prepared to part this car out?
A: absolutely - and my 5 and 2 year old sons.
Everyman and his dog are parting out original unmolested ovals these days.....😂
Bizarre ·
yeah - that was a ripper
Bizarre ·
mmmmmmm...............................27 minutes and still sub $20k on the 52
13bwagon ·
sweet 14 min on the 52 and im still winning will make a great convertible
13bwagon ·
5 min and $20,100 here comes fun cool summer
13bwagon ·
dang 24 sec thing got crazy
Bizarre ·
pffttttt
What a fizzer - was expecting some REAL excitment
What a fizzer - was expecting some REAL excitment
Yogie ·
Sold for $21,100 to someone that placed their only bid 21 seconds before the auction ended. Cutting it close. Anyone on here that bought it?
Yogie
Yogie
13bwagon ·
hey craig can i have a drive?
sorry about that extra 1k i cost ya 😀
sorry about that extra 1k i cost ya 😀
wolfgang54 ·
cheap?
57oval ·
expensive for half of an oval
farkengruven ·
No, expensive.wolfgang54 wrote:cheap?
The serious bidders bowed out after doing their homework.
wolfgang54 ·
maybe, i was in 2 minds to bid, not knowing enough about them and listening to the doubters.. often the recipe to miss out on something good
Bizarre ·
any one want to have a bet on the 54??
Still 26 mins to go
Still 26 mins to go
Paulc1964au ·
the 54 looks the real thing
vw54 ·
Sold for $21100 48 bids
anyone on here buy it ????
anyone on here buy it ????
REDKG ·
I nearly bought it 3 months ago, took his 54 instead.
crsedge ·
I heard that this car is coming to Melbourne, anyone know who bought it??
GASBNR ·
crsedge wrote:I heard that this car is coming to Melbourne, anyone know who bought it?? [/quote
Yeah
crsedge ·
empikg wrote:Was it you Oliver? Congrats if so!crsedge wrote:I heard that this car is coming to Melbourne, anyone know who bought it?? [/quote
Yeah
Cheers
Craig
zjm ·
it sold for nearly 6 times the price it sold for last time not a bad investment
wolfgang54 ·
when was that? as i thought it was a long time in current hands?zjm wrote:it sold for nearly 6 times the price it sold for last time not a bad investment
Joel ·
mmmm ebay does it again, the seller is definately laughing all the way to the bank considering how much cheaper it was offered up before
zjm ·
wolfgang54 wrote:when was that? as i thought it was a long time in current hands?zjm wrote:it sold for nearly 6 times the price it sold for last time not a bad investment
ian.mezz ·
GASBNR ·
thats correct the current owner has found something else he wants,
he's got it running and found out heaps bout its history, really interesting stuff.
he's got it running and found out heaps bout its history, really interesting stuff.