yeah I already put my name down for a pair a few weeks back. 👍
oztype3 ·
hey guys if you want to order drop spindles i can get you a pair for $250 + postage
just need to know if their link or ball
vlad01 ·
type 3 spindles are completely different to bug, bus or kg. are your ones for t3?
oztype3 ·
yeah their type 3's
vlad01 ·
pics please 😁
cruiser ·
I got a set from Bert3's first run a couple of years ago. Very good although I will still drop the front one more notch.
L469 ·
excuse my ignorance but what do drop spindles do exactly?❓😊
vlad01 ·
drop spindle has their stub axle moved up on the spindle, so it effectively lowers the car without any or much alteration to the suspension geometry ( lowered and full travel retained)
Very useful, especially on type 3's as their suspension does not work properly at all when lowered the traditional way.
L469 ·
sounds like a great idea how low would you have to go to need them that is minimum drop? i want to bring the front down one notch or so would i need this?
oztype3 ·
you cant just modify your spindles at the snap of fingers.. hence the name DROP spindles mean they DROP the SPINDLE.. they mainly drop 2 1/2 inchs
if you guys want to order some i got a guy up on the goldcoast here im pretty sure he has type 3 spindles but ill ring him tomo and find out
if someone is interested
bus914 ·
I guess this would require Eng's cert.?
Whould there be any issues getting one?
vlad01 ·
I wouldn't think so. Bert's spindles are highly over engineered. they are cnc billets 👍
oztype3 ·
you cant just modify your spindles yourself unless you know what you doing. its easier just to buy them
no engineer cert need its just lowering your car..
RATAFIED ·
$777.00 F0R 42MM 😂
empi ·
oztype3 wrote:hey guys if you want to order drop spindles i can get you a pair for $250 + postage
just need to know if their link or ball
Type 3 spindles are completely different to beetle, for the record they are a ball joint but completely different to beetle ones.
vlad01 ·
RATAFIED wrote:$777.00 F0R 42MM 😂
whats the problem? too cheap for ya?
TCR7 ·
Hey vlad, did you end up getting a set of these?
PM sent.
whathaveidone ·
Vlad missed out on a pair for half the cost earlier this year!!!!!!😂 ask humpty😂 I sold a set for 300. maybe if you all ask nicely CBB will do another run.
Matty v ·
i'd be keen for a set!!!
vicelore ·
Somone make something to narrow the front.. 🙁 stupid wide type 3 front..
Vice.
empi ·
Errrr they do.... either a beetle beam or the narrowed trailing arms. Will talk more about it when you come over next with beer! 😵💫
vlad01 ·
So anyone want my spindles? I can't use them as I need massive brakes. 😀
Fastie ·
I thought you said your spindles were going to work with the VWcool brake package? Or have you gone with another setup
vlad01 ·
yes and no. it can fit but that would require spacing the steering arm a little but I have been advised not to do that by Glenn.
Steering geometry gets f**ked up if you do that.
He can still do brakes for it but they will be based on stock calipers, well which well you know 😂 He says they are a huge improvement over bone stock but still I want the brake in which I drive every day and I know how good they are 👍
shaven ·
is anyone making these... if so which are the BEST & why... just want opinions.
cheers matty
vwo60 ·
The previous posts about the engineereing, you will need to have them engineered weither it is just lowering, they are not a proproiritory part, to run them legally on the road they would require a deflection test and probably destructive testing, a costly exercise
empi ·
shaven wrote:is anyone making these... if so which are the BEST & why... just want opinions.
cheers matty
just lower yr car the normal way... have u got yr tyres yet?
scot70wagon ·
i,m running the bert3 ones the guy on the samba makes, they are excellent. A bit pricey but in my opinion but well worth the money
vlad01 ·
vwo60 wrote:The previous posts about the engineereing, you will need to have them engineered weither it is just lowering, they are not a proproiritory part, to run them legally on the road they would require a deflection test and probably destructive testing, a costly exercise
yes thats ture, but I bet they'll put the stock spindles to shame on the tests.
shaven ·
empi wrote:
shaven wrote:is anyone making these... if so which are the BEST & why... just want opinions.
cheers matty
just lower yr car the normal way... have u got yr tyres yet?
saw the guy today that has my tyres... 2 x tyres here... had to wait for the others to come into the country. going away for a week. when I get back booked in to get them put on the rims... then im coming to your place 😂😘
ocdrbug ·
Is the type 1 beam a straight bolton deal or are there many mods.🤓
empi ·
^^^^???^^^^^ bolt on drop spindles to a type 1 beam = yes. type 1 beam into type 3.... err no lots of mods
beetle_nut ·
And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..🙄
shaven ·
beetle_nut wrote:And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..🙄
call you tomorrow😎
beetle_nut ·
shaven wrote:
beetle_nut wrote:And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..🙄
call you tomorrow😎
You never called.
Knew I should have got you to buy me dinner first.😂😂🤪
shaven ·
did... well messaged😘
h ·
pm to you matty 😘
Transformer ·
Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
eXraycer ·
Transformer wrote:Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
Transformer wrote:Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some😎
eXraycer ·
shaven wrote:because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some😎
Your not planning to run wide 5 disk brakes with those spindles are you?
Those BerT3 spindles are pretty specific to regular type3 (4stud) disk brake calipers. Custom wide five kit might be a little tricky to fit from what I can tell cause stock VW calipers are too thick to fit between the disk rotor and the wheel stud flange. I'd really like to see a set up-close before I shelled out for them or decide to use standard brakes that I know will fit. I know Vlad tried to set up these spindles with that big brake set up he bought from another forum member but he couldn't make it fit. Id hate to buy such a killer spindle and then be faced with compatibility issues cause I'm trying to keep the car on wide 5 stud pattern. I know with enough ingenuity and access to different calipers and machinery there's probably a solution to that dilemma (Wide five disks with street legal drop spindles) but its a spendy proposition with no guarantees of success. Aarrrgh, my head hurts.
vlad01 ·
eXraycer wrote:
shaven wrote:because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some😎
Your not planning to run wide 5 disk brakes with those spindles are you?
Those BerT3 spindles are pretty specific to regular type3 (4stud) disk brake calipers. Custom wide five kit might be a little tricky to fit from what I can tell cause stock VW calipers are too thick to fit between the disk rotor and the wheel stud flange. I'd really like to see a set up-close before I shelled out for them or decide to use standard brakes that I know will fit. I know Vlad tried to set up these spindles with that big brake set up he bought from another forum member but he couldn't make it fit. Id hate to buy such a killer spindle and then be faced with compatibility issues cause I'm trying to keep the car on wide 5 stud pattern. I know with enough ingenuity and access to different calipers and machinery there's probably a solution to that dilemma (Wide five disks with street legal drop spindles) but its a spendy proposition with no guarantees of success. Aarrrgh, my head hurts.
The bert3 spindles are friggin awesome, but with some problems, they are engineered with no margin for further mods. Stock factory ball joints, factory calipers and factory spec'd wheels are a must.
For that reason I sold mine, as much as I tried I could not fit larger brakes (only exception I think is CSP vented brakes for type 3), even had problem with the ball joints too coz oz must of used a different OEM supplier compared to Germany? a Royal PITA. So I went from brakes over lowering. Brakes are a must for me so the choice was a no brainer 😘
having said all of this, there is a chance volvo or BMW calipers might fits, but you are breaking balls with clearance.
vlad01 ·
ok if you really want to use the BerT3 spindles then you need the CSP brake kit (same footprint but wider calipers and wider vented disks)
And then you will need a racing/street compound pads like QFM's A1RM pads. You should be pretty damn close to having enough brake performance for 150-200hp engine with these spindles. Type 3s are heavy and need the brakes.
So many people seem to say the type 3 brakes are awesome, imho they are rubbish. probably coz most people would of come from beetles so they say they are good lol.
empi ·
Rich coming from someone who doesnt actually drive his car!!
vlad01 ·
empi wrote:Rich coming from someone who doesnt actually drive his car!!
And you know this information based on?
come on mate, don't deny these brakes suck.
cruiser ·
The bert3 spindles are friggin awesome, but with some problems, they are engineered with no margin for further mods. Stock factory ball joints, factory calipers and factory spec'd wheels are a must.
For that reason I sold mine, as much as I tried I could not fit larger brakes (only exception I think is CSP vented brakes for type 3), even had problem with the ball joints too coz oz must of used a different OEM supplier compared to Germany? a Royal PITA. So I went from brakes over lowering. Brakes are a must for me so the choice was a no brainer 😘
Mine bolted up perfectly ok, 4 stud and stock discs. Been driving on them for about 4 years now. Only complaint came from the tyre shop doing the new alignment as the lower ball joint is quite close to the rim.
vlad01 ·
I tired every ball joint I had, all interfered with the spindles, was going to get some metal milled but by then I had tried my bigger calipers but wouldn't fit, so I gave lol
Anyway, if your going stock they are a real good bit of kit, I would highly recommend them.
Transformer ·
eXraycer wrote:
Transformer wrote:Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
Yeah they certainly look the part, question is will they meet the tests if the Engineer gets all bitter and twisted? They've been around for years and I was hoping someone would have tried to meet the Vehicle Standards by now. I've had a look at the Code (thanks) only got halfway thru before the brain turned to mush, too old for this stuff.
Tempted to get the body mods signed off without the spindles etc. but it's going to look strange (crap) with stock wheels and tyres, don't think he'll buy it and even if he did the plate recognition cameras would soon take the fun out of it.
Will wait to see if anyone else chips in. Photo taken when re-radiusing the wheel arches.
vdubin ·
I was looking into buying these , But I also have a T1 Beam I think I'm better off using the T1 Beam.
I know I'll never get a reply but Transformer must be from around my way ..
vwo60 ·
I see all the conversions for a type one beam but these are made for a lighter car and i do not see how they any engineer would aprove that conversion