Saw some great action, couple of spins, awesome open wheelers of Peter Gumley and Stan Pobjoy, quite a few beetles, a golf that revelled on the tight track, a smart looking green and yellow beetle that failed to impress, Frazer's turbo fasty, and a really quick John Dear 'Gator'.
Only 1 'V-Force' racer, where were Jak and CT?
A bit disappointing that times weren't kept - something to do with insurance I guess.
fullnoise 路
Tell me more about the day. My mate Greg had his blue pobjoy beetle there. How did he go? He was trying to beat Craig in the white pobjoy beetle.
I was planning to go to Nambucca. I was just going to go for fun not serious racing. I was going to race on my street tyres, go in the parade and enter my oval in the show.
Unfortunately I got the flu after Jak and I raced at Golburn 2 weeks ago. The weekend took a lot out of me and Golburn is only 200kms away. I'm not totally over the flu and I don't think I could put up with the noisy webers in a freezing beetle for over 12 hours in a weekend.
I'm going to take the beetle for a run up to Jak's house on Sunday so that we don't get too depressed missing out on Nambucca.
I've got to say that the organisation of the event was pretty ordinary. I emailed them and tried to find out if I could race on the Saturday but got no response. With no CAMS permit I didn't think there would be any racing. Last time I went to Nambucca they only let me race on the Friday. Then I turned up on the Saturday and they were trying to get cars to run on the track.
CYA, CT馃檨
56astro 路
That's right CT, hence the "racing?!?!"
There were no times recorded, just driving for fun/display. In the end most people were just trying to see who could get around the first long right hander flat out.
Both Greg and Craig were there. All this stuff about Craig being a fat bastard is simply not true - he doesn't look an ounce over 15 stone! :P
The green and yellow machine was driven by John Van Look who is going to featured in the ZOOM mag shortly. It looks awesome, but I think he's still got some sorting out to do. Should be another contender for the Porsche days I'd say.
jakriz 路
CT had to wash his hair this weekend & I had to shave my tounge.................no, but seriuosly, just couldn't afford to go unfortunantly. Hope u are all having fun.
regards
Jak
PS CT , u have to stop visiting me, Fiona makes me mow the lawn everytime u come.!
kombi_kid 路
frazer nearly went for a swim in the pond!!!
cheers
rhys
56astro 路
LMHO Rhys
I was going to mention Frazers forgetable first lap, but I could see him stressing out with his mobile phone around the back of the Fasty with the engine lid open. Didn't think he'd appreciate it.
kombi_kid 路
ahahaha i think hes more worieed about getting his kombi going know!!!!! but he was full of adrelin saturday night!
cheers
rhys
BiX 路
It was pretty good on friday to 馃榾
Lots less ppl and lots more fun.
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J&SBlue 路
I have some pics of the cars stopped.
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Stanley 路
Who owns the last beetle no54 Man that is nice:thumb:thumb
J&SBlue 路
Worked out a new way (for me) to do this picture thing. Hope it works.
Oh yeah...and some of these aren't standing still anymore.
56astro 路
What times?
Where are they?
BiX 路
my post before was just what i thought the times were. no times recorded 馃檨
amazer 路
no times recorded cos no RACE permit.
Peter Leonard 路
"WAAAAAHHHHHHH my kombi is dead (twice in 4 days) "
drop a 1916 in de back chris 馃槈
I had a great time sliding all over the track, and i hope to have another go with some stickier tyres and a straight body and some skill 馃榾
a couple of people had stopwatches and sooner or later some times will be posted. just leave mine out of it heehehe :P
hey chris, i saw you guys leaving nambucca around fourish, but spent too much time at servos and coffee breaks to catch you all up. bummer about the bottom end- was it that oil ring? might be time to get a temp guage despite your feelings on guages. the fasty looked like fun on the track. this is gonna be a fun thread 馃榾
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Bizarre 路
Anyone manage to get a picture of Deiter in the lime green car???
Like to hear how he went??
I heard he managed to get fined at the ball for driving like his father :jesus
ben i got most times, yep yella was the buggy i bet it didn't weigh much
SKEWtYpe3 路
but remember some people did stop starts and others did rolling starts and on the second laps they were going past full throttle...........
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bug eyed 路
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i didn't time 1st laps id they didn't stop
every one did 2nd lap at full throttle so i timed a flying lap for the drivers.
i'm not saying that the times are perfect but there are consistent
whatnow 路
my vote for the best spin (that i saw anyway) goes to tony draper (in the white 68 with the brown engine lid) for his snap spin on the straight late on sat afternoon.
my vote for the most entertaining to watch... it's a toss up between the golf (when the welsh guy was driving) and the honda S600 (that car was so nice).
KruizinKombi 路
Definitely the Honda, I've got a nice spin on digital video. It's just a pity that it wasn't a VW.
whatnow 路
i love the fact that it is street reg'd. the way the back end headed for the outside of the corner every time he stepped on the power. crazy.
amazer 路
I'm feeling very unloved. Any times and pics for me? That video colin?
whatnow 路
don't worry amazer we were watching.
your car is such a sleeper. it must be fun to go hunting in (if you are so inclined)(not that i would condone any kind of exhibitions of speed on public road)
Cam 路
:bounce More, more, more 馃槑
What was shoved up the nose of that honda?
Cam 路
Oh, also could I bribe any Melbourne people for copies of videos? 馃榾
bug eyed 路
supercharged 2L
i think nissan moter
Craig Torrens 路
Fiat motor.
Cam 路
okay... So it's a modern 2L supercharged fiat motor then. Coolies.
Am still interested in a copy of any videos around. I'll be up in Sydney at the end of the month too if anyone from there has a video of the racing they would'nt mind copying?
1st or last, what a "fun" day for all involved.:thumb
torrens 1.58.2min - 1.06.1= 52.1sec for 1 lap
WOW, now I know why I beat Ben Durie's car in Hillclimbs !!!
Really no comparison, go the 1916cc 馃榾馃榾
[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Craig Torrens]
VWCOOL 路
By those times (unofficial, of course, but as can be seen, bugeye seemed to be surprisingly consistent with the sometimes difficult task of timing), Ben did a quickest of 56.6 vs Craig's 52.1
56astro 路
Yeah, BUT ....
Ben Durie wrote:Craig and Greg were not that quik even with the slicks on the back of both cars.
regards
Ben
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amazer 路
Why do some people have to be such shit stirrers. This had been dead for nearly 2 months.
VWCOOL 路
56astro wrote:Yeah, BUT ....
Ben Durie wrote:Craig and Greg were not that quik even with the slicks on the back of both cars.
regards
Ben
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yeah, funny ay!
Peter Leonard 路
it's back now... BWAHAHAHHAAHAHAA
Craig Torrens 路
amazer wrote:Why do some people have to be such shit stirrers. This had been dead for nearly 2 months.
Not dead, just sleeping. 馃榾馃榾
Yawn馃榾
VWCOOL 路
who's stirring?
Peter Leonard 路
look! proof my streetcar was abused and can slide for up to two minutes 馃榾
Peter Leonard 路
the 1916cc area... greg must have been on the track 馃榾 look at all the purdy 1916s 馃榾
and there's a pic of some slob having a cig between runs 馃槈
Craig Torrens 路
What a fun event, several months ago now though.馃榾
Yawn,back to my trophy filled office馃榾 :kiss
P.S. I didn't realise Stan's 1916 was more than 4 1/2sec in front of that other open wheeler that's fantastic, congrats:thumb to "Stan" the man
The other open wheeler did sound very under powered though.馃檨
[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Craig Torrens]
VWCOOL 路
Oooops... I must have made a mistake...Shock, horror... I was simply drawing conclusions from the times posted... I didn't realise I was bagging yours - or anybody else's - engines, but after your comment: "hate to harp on it but Craig and Greg were not that quik even with the slicks on the back of both cars" I easily worked out that from the times shown here, Craig's Pobjoy-powered 1916cc Beetle, with a 'flying' (second lap) time of 52.1 seconds was faster than you did on the day. And I don't recall any Greg or Craig using slicks, not that it matters.
I might go and hang my head in shame at my alleged mortal error for about three nanoseconds and then have a beer and a laugh with Craig in his trophy-filled office...:thumb
Oh yeah - welcome to a very exclusive VW Club with the purchase of a Country Buggy! I'll race you to completion! Given that I've done about 6 hours' work on mine in the last year, that's one race you CAN win...
bug eyed 路
i took the times with 2 hand held stopwatches.
i did not adjust the times, or knowingly make any errors.
clearly craig's time is questionable, and much faster than his others i will attempt to find all times and post
VWCOOL 路
Ben, I hope you don't mean 'unloaded' as in 'sold'? What sort of shape/condition is it in? There's another CB up around Lake Mac that I've seen, too
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Craig Torrens 路
bug eyed wrote:i took the times with 2 hand held stopwatches.
i did not adjust the times, or knowingly make any errors.
clearly craig's time is questionable, and much faster than his others i will attempt to find all times and post
Post all the times you want, as far as I'm concerned it was all untimed, a day for show and fun, not competition. If I was quickest great:thumb If I was the slowest great:thumb
BiX 路
r we all forgeting the reason for events like valla and others, so all people who like vw's can some together and if they like racing have some FUN competition.
If stuff like the L bug post, this post and the 1916 post continue and the seriousness of the racing etc at valla continue these events will die.
everybody is here to have FUN. with some ppl spoiling it.
bug eyed 路
Craig,
No one, nor I every said it was offical, i didn't take times to proclaim a winner, or losers, or for that matter the best engine builder, raleigh is hardly the best track to judge power output.
i took them so the drivers could get a benchmark of their own times, seeing that the organisiors were banned from timing.
Nobody saw much of other peoples results until sunday night at the dinner.
I don't think either of you (ben and craig) are winning any converts with the bilious repartee you go on with. I think you both have powerful well built engines, stick them on the same dyno the same day if you want wanking rights, how you judge longetivity may pose more problems.
everybody can have a preference or favorite, or just happily run our 13&15&16 hundreds and be just as happy as having one of SP's 1915 or a stroked lump in the back.
Why should that preference lead to abuse or ridicule ??
VWCOOL 路
Bug Eyed,
full points to you for making the effort to get some times and post them for rough comparisons. I did it at Valla a few years ago and it's not easy.
Earlier in this thread, Ben Durie chose to take a swipe at two Valla attendees by posting (words to the effect of) 'Greg's and Craig's VW's didn't look that quick' yet clearly, according to the times that you collated on the day, Craig's car was faster.
Ben also mentioned slicks, creating the impression in the minds of some readers of this thread that Greg and Craig were somehow 'cheating', despite the event being an unoffical meet. I cannot comment for Greg, but I'm quite sure Craig was 'driving' on the same old street-legal (but now quite worn) Falken rubber that was on his car the last time he won his class in the State Hill Climb Championship. As I posted earlier, your timing seemed quite consistent and no-one is - or has - questioned your efforts.
As both Greg's and Craig's cars are powered by Pobjoy 1916s, it seems pretty obvious to me that the only problem here is SLS - sore loser syndrome.
All for an event that wasn't even official!!:P
amazer 路
How would everyone feel about joining the Kempsey Sporting Car Club? I believe the reason for not being able to have official times is because CAMS deemed it a national event since people from interstate were attending, and hence a huge permit fee. So wondering if we all join Kempsey club, making it a club only day would make things a lot cheaper.
It wont stop any arguments because whoever comes second will have an excuse, but for me it would be nicer to have a competition.
*sigh nambucca*
My fastback still hasnt made it home from the last one and we are only 8 months away from the next.
BiX 路
sounds like a good idea. even if they ( the local club) ran it and just had it as a multi club event ( and happened to be on the same weekend as nambucca) it shouldn't be a problem if any body from interstate entered. I think the problem lies if they run it under the nabucca vw event.
amazer 路
Im not entirely sure but because some of the clubs were to be interstate clubs, not under the cover of CAMS NSW, thats where the difficulty lie. The permit has always been under Kempsey Club, which I believe Jan Munro is a part of.
It might be a bit of a nightmare if something happened and the addresses and licences are from interstate.
I just think it sucks that regular you and I club motorsport can be priced out of reach of regular you and I type people.
speedster356 路
Sounds like a good idea Chris. Maybe we could hire a couple of transponders and a receiver etc and make it really offical? Or is your hillclimb gear portable?
KruizinKombi 路
Chris, only 8 months left to fix that throttle return spring??? :o
You better pull your finger out mate! :P馃榾
KruizinKombi 路
Chris, only 8 months left to fix that throttle return spring??? :o
You better pull your finger out mate! :P馃榾
Don't forget to make sure your kombi can tow it.... :P馃槈
amazer 路
Your cable ties work, dont need no spring. Wouldnt like to see the condition of the turbo bearings after that 2 minutes of wide open throttle and the shutdown. What can I do. Just run it it till it pops.
Kombi is going good now that I have changed my rusted fuel tank and the filters arent blocking every day. Apart from the oil leak I cant find. Its been 48 hours since it last stopped. Think there might be another reason the turbo wasnt running well. Fuel starvation.
I dont think I will be doing anything for a while. No money and not much chance of getting any soon. Will have to start saving every cent if I am to even get to nambucca. Might have enough for a one way train fare, not that it would be a bad thing.
amazer 路
Pete,
Our timing gear is very portable, but I dont think I have much chance of getting a loan of it.
Its just a light beam and reflector thingo that sends a signal down the wire to a stopwatch. You're a clever guy. Build one for us.
speedster356 路
On to it next week.....馃榾 Yeah shouldn't be 2 hard.
BiX 路
I built one in high school that was hooked up to a pc. mite have to c if i can borrow it馃榾