I don't want to rubbish Club VeeDub coz I understand, more than most, how much work it takes to organize a public event like Sunday's Nats. I am very grateful for their decades of dedication in putting on the event at great cost time-wise to all the organizers. Thank you guys for your work.
However, I dragged my 5 and 7yo round for an hour and a half and by the end of their ice creams (10 minutes in), they were saying, "this is boring". Now I got some nice pics, but basically, I had to agree with them.
Muchos respect to the show crowd, but I think we need some real action. Now I don't just want to whine and whinge coz that is no help to anyone, so I have a solution proposed....
I propose a Combo of the Show and the Track day at Wakefield. I know that means it's a little harder to get to, but it would mean more action. A lot more action. You could even run 8th mile sprints in the middle of the day if you liked.
It's also a little closer for the Melbourne and Canberra people and it means helping a regional economy, ie. Goulburn.
Anyway, it's just my 2c. Feel free to take it as you will.
But again, as I said at the beginning, thank you Club VeeDub for your work so far.
STIDUB ·
find a location that can accomodate everything at once & doesnt cost the earth & everyone would love to know about it.
hell find me one in south east qld & the drivers club action day later in the year could get something to justify the name 👍
-its up to individual tastes of spectators & the efforts of entrants & trade/swap stands to create appeal aswell, if nothing is grabbing your interest & keeping it then your always going to be bored, such is life
i chat to people ive gotten to know through the forums/other meets, keeps the day interesting
your not the only one that thinks along the same lines either & there is a push to make something like that happen 🙂
oh and what about the people that come from the north? goulburn is further than fairfield 😂
Craig Torrens ·
The EVO nats on the weekend was at Eastern creek raceway and it worked well for a "combo" event. There was the car show, skidpan and supersprints all at the same time on Saturday, Saturday night was a dinner and then Sunday was the hillclimb down at Huntley.
Each year it is held in a different state (last year VIC) and its now building momentum amongst the EVO crowd as a "dont miss" event.
Would be good to have a VW event with the same format.😎
pete wood ·
There is plenty of room for everyone at Wakefield and it has more of that "oldschool feel" to it. But really, as you say, you could run it at Eastern Ck just as easily I guess.
As I said before, I don't want to rubbish a show per se, but when you've been to something like the tasman revival and got to wander around in between race/display cars while watching others race, it makes for a much more interesting day.
P.s. If they were interested in running at Eastern ck and needed a CAMS affiliated club to run a motorkhana on the skidpan, I'm sure my club, CACA Nsw would be more than happy to help out.
vw54 ·
as you say, you could run it at Eastern Ck just as easily I guess.
I luv all the x perts could u afford to hire Eastern
Creek we will have to increase the Swap meet fees
why would we need another car club to run something ??? as we are CAMS affilated
Craig Torrens ·
vw54 wrote:
as you say, you could run it at Eastern Ck just as easily I guess.
I luv all the x perts could u afford to hire Eastern
Creek we will have to increase the Swap meet fees
why would we need another car club to run something ??? as we are CAMS affilated
No one is saying they're an "expert" Dave, just sharing respectful feedback.
vw54 ·
So why dont u attend
pete wood ·
vw54 wrote:
as you say, you could run it at Eastern Ck just as easily I guess.
I luv all the x perts could u afford to hire Eastern
Creek we will have to increase the Swap meet fees
why would we need another car club to run something ??? as we are CAMS affilated
I guess I was just offering to help you guys. CACA runs a lot of motorkhanas at Eastern Ck and other places. I know the committee would be glad to be involved in that way as there are a number of VW owners/ex-owners in the club.
Would it be helpful if I wrote a letter to the committee of the club veedub by way of doing things officially?
vw54 ·
Pete
yes many thanks much appreciated please send us a letter
The logistics of running the whole show at Wakefeild would be too much and we would NOT get the every day VW crowd thats pays through the gate that funds the show
if you have every costed out Eastern Creek then you will know thats out of the question
Ive been doing this for 24 years now and the venue is perfect cost, logistical, weather and size wise
hellbugged ·
vw54 wrote:Ive been doing this for 24 years now and the venue is perfect cost, logistical, weather and size wise
yes a one day show in the pouring rain would be disasterous.......in fact one rainy weekend a few years back, we decided to do the down and back 1000km run for something to do, knowing the event was undercover.
an organised cruise from Sydney to Gouldburn might be the go to get more "non" racers down there for the spectacle....but yeah looked like plenty to see at Fairfield, might not fill in a whole day, but what kids last that long anyways
Well done CLUB VW again! huge job, great effort by the volunteers to keep the show and club going !
Pumba ·
I thought it was a great day i never had time to get bored,plus not everyone is into track racing😉
But if i had a fast beetle i might change my mind😂
rose ·
you don't need a fast beetle or be a race car driver. Just get out there in your road registered beetle no matter how fast it goes it's heaps of fun.
vwmad wrote:I thought it was a great day i never had time to get bored,plus not everyone is into track racing😉
But if i had a fast beetle i might change my mind😂
rose ·
It's a great weekend. And yes it would be good to have it all together but that's just to difficult.
We just need more vw enthusiast to get in there and support their club and events that are organised as one day they may not be there to go to with out the support.
STIDUB ·
^^^^^ what she said 👍
tiguan racing next year anyone? 😂
VDU.88A ·
24 years and still going. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Good work club veedub. I'll be there again next year.
Paulc1964au ·
I think feedback is good and healthy for any event. I missed wakefield this year but enjoyed the show and shine. I did feel the PA system was up way too high and was drowning out conversations.
Not sure but the cars didnt seem to be displayed in their class? or maybe they were and i didnt notice but seemed to be a little disorganised
I have a read about a few events in USA that run for 3 days, Maybe a dinner on the Friday night at a local restaurant where everyone can bring there cars on the night.
Another suggestion is maybe having an area outside the show in the carpark allocated specifically for VW's. not all of us feel we can compete so having all the Vw's parked together would add to the event.
All in all its the weekend i look forward too, congrats to the organisers i thought their was na excellent crowd
pete wood ·
VDU.88A wrote:24 years and still going. Don't fix what isn't broken.
I don't think it's a matter of fixing what's broken as much as moving with the times. 24 years ago was 1987. Things have changed a lot. I'm just not sure the structure of the show reflects an age that is dominated by the web, mobiles and ACVWs as non-daily drivers.
Someone made a comment about clubs getting out there. How many clubs are actually left now. I suspect not many.
If the show is as good as you say, should it stay the same for the next quarter of a century? I don't think so. The nature of the scene has changed and it will continue to change. We need to find ways to lead the scene rather than just pretending it won't change.
Again, muchos respect to the hard working organisers, but I think a big review would be helpful.
Gringo_54_oval ·
One thing i recon they should change is the volume of the PA during the day. Down a couple of notches then up a couple of notches when their handing out tropheys couldnt hear the bloke saying peoples names.
Maybe tell people what car their winning for, maybe he did and i didnt hear it.
Either way i always enjoy the veedub show and always hang for it so cheers to keeping it happening
Alex
dutchyvan ·
all in all its a good day, i know alot of people simply dont come as they dont want to line up to be judged. maybe a bikini contest would make it more exciting Pete?😉
or maybe an oompah band and beer garden....that would be great.
One of the other gripes i hear is that its the 'nationals' and should alternate between the major cities, that would take a team effort between various clubs around the country...as there is already the dovw, maybe the name 'nationals' is not appropriate?
At the end of the day i had fun, got out, looked at cars, bought junk and had a hot dog. Its up to the owners of all the vw's out there to get them out of the garage, if numbers were greater maybe it would be more 'exciting'. the club can only work with what theyve got...
rob53 ·
Couldn't be happier with the Nationals run at fairfield. I'd be very happy to attend for the next 24 years. It's a great venue and location. Well done Club Vee Dub.
Sunset Garage ·
I went to the nationals, and as always, was blown away with the insane level of detail, time, and $$$ that has gone into a lot of these cars. I always leave feeling overwhelmed with more VW images than I can absorb in one day.
I have lots of respect for all those who organise it, but one thing that always amazes & frustrates me, is how many incredible VW's end up outside in the carpark.
Now there are lots of reasons people don't want to drive these cars in (me included) Some of the reasons I can think of is, they don't want to have to be judged, they can't stay the whole day, they don't think the cost difference between attending and showing is worth it, They've shown the car for many years previously etc etc...
I would like to see an area set aside for VW parking only, for those who want to be at the show with their VW's, without having to feel like they need to have the car judged, have to stay the whole day etc.
I can't believe organisers don't realise how much better the show would be, by making this another feature of the show. These cars (many of which are daily drivers) are even more appealing in many ways, in that they are more in touch with the common VW guy or girl than a $50,000-$100,000+ showcar. And the organizers shouldn't need to charge extra, because these grassroots cars will end up attracting more through the gate, which will end up giving them more revenue.
Just my two cents worth, and only my opinion, I'm probably wrong or missing out on some logistical challenge I haven't thought of.
kombee ·
WELL DONE .. I enjoy all day, every year bigger and bigger is for some reason !!!!
evsky ·
Dave well said having an area for the daily drivers makes total sense it would also save time at the judging im sure a lot of the cars in the line up wernt chasing trophies just wanted to be inside. I decided not to wait so that i could get to the swap meet bargains asap so ended up parked outside. I heard some people took close to 2 hours to get inside. An entry fee would still be fine. I don't think its a hard thing to sort for next year? Apart from that it was a great day but a small change would make a huge difference id say get all those car park cars inside or together. And more fuel in that engine blow did it even blow up i reckon she was out of fuel Amazing Cheers Ev
pete wood ·
BTW, I'd be happy to pay $20 to get in the gate if that helps Dave. I'm sure others would feel similar.
sander288 ·
STIDUB wrote:^^^^^ what she said 👍
tiguan racing next year anyone? 😂
Woohoo Tiguan racing; i'll have to wait until after factory warranty though for my APR upgrade.... 🤖
STIDUB ·
buuuttt sander that would make it even 😂 mines cracking 40,000ks on the way home in to brissy tomorrow in JUST over a year old, yours run in yet? 🤪
sander288 ·
mine was run in the 2nd weekend we owned it!
Trailer with the bug on it up to Valla, then Byron, Brisbane, and then back to Sydney all in 4 days!
It's run it for sure! 👍
kaiisons ·
heres an idea taken from evskys post.
What about one side of the carpark dedicated to just VWs? might have to park them one space apart so people dont scratch etc. But like others, there are so many good cars outside, and myself being young and not owning a flash VW. its not worth entering it into the judging knowing that it wont win, and thats probably a big thing for most of the other dub drivers. Having the bigger side of the carpark VWs only would make it more appealing for others to come.
I didn't hang around long, met up with people previous and new faces. but other than having a chat and doing a lap of the cars and swap/trade stands. there is not much else to do.
It still was a great nationals, just a few ideas that I had.
Cheers
ian.mezz ·
What are you all on about.
We had a lovely weekend we left Newcastle Fri lunch time with a 4 hr drive to Goulburn.
Meet up with a nice bunch of people at the track where the cabins are to stay over night. Then we all went out for tea at the Paragon at Goulburn for a nice meal and chin wag and talk racing n vw crap lol.
Then back to the track accommodation to have a gas bag in the cozy warm cabin while watching the footy.
Up early Sat morning to be greeted by a great frosty morning weather was perfect after the ice cleared off the cars.
Time to hit the track for a day filled of racing and chatting about racing techniques.
Rose got to go out as the lead car for the first timers to follow around the track for a few laps with Rudy as the navigator he gave her some good tips for the racing at Wakefield.
Had a heap of laps around 20 odd.
Then back to Newcastle 4 hour drive to swap over bugs, have a sleep then up at 5am to take the drag racing bug back down to the Nats on Sun.
Enter the car in the show n shine. Had a look around had lunch talked to heaps of people about the Nude drag racing bug. Had a look around swap meet. Had some fairy floss.
Left after trophies presentation for a 2 hr drive home.
We had a great VW weekend away. Cant wait till the next one.
Paulc1964au wrote:Another suggestion is maybe having an area outside the show in the carpark allocated specifically for VW's. not all of us feel we can compete so having all the Vw's parked together would add to the event.
Definitely.
Just about everyone I spoke to on the day mentioned this.
There were just as many, if not more impressive cars in the car park. Enticing people to bring their VW's into the show without having to enter them in a competition would be a big plus. Will mean more revenue also I'd think.
I know personally I'm not going to bring my VW next year just to sit in the judging queue for over an hour as I'm not in contention to win anything and the extra cost for that "privilege" isn't worth the hassle.
I had a good time though and thank all the organisers for putting on what seemed like a relatively successful event.
Pumba ·
I think the carpark idea is a good one👍
pod ·
we had the VW carpark at the shootout in the end ,and isnt Berry Show something along these lines ,very informal and enjoyable👍
vw54 ·
The car park car show is not on unless all of the above want to join the Club
Otherwise you wont be cover for Public Liability etc etc etc
then you have to make signs for the difffernt areas and get there at 6.00 am and stay all day to arrange the parking in specialised areas Go right ahead should only take about 6 to 10 people to run it
now Tiguan racing can you lock those in 4 wheel drive or are they like a Syncro that would be nice around the top loop of the track i am learning the track and can now take that top loop in 3rd nearly flat out with backing off GREAT FUN
Paulc1964au ·
vw54 wrote:The car park car show is not on unless all of the above want to join the Club
Otherwise you wont be cover for Public Liability etc etc etc
then you have to make signs for the difffernt areas and get there at 6.00 am and stay all day to arrange the parking in specialised areas Go right ahead should only take about 6 to 10 people to run it
I don't have public liability if i park anywhere in thew car park and i wouldnt expect it parking in a sectioned off area of the carpark. I'd be happy to assist setting it up
silver ·
maybe hold the event in April 😂
newghia ·
is it just me, or does this sort of discussion come up every year straight after the event......
Silver.....u are funny.......
And i still dont understand the judging criterea / system.....4 years on
Nath
silver ·
And i still dont understand the judging criterea / system.....4 years on
Nath
Join the Club get a trophy easy
pete wood ·
^ nasty...
JVLRacing ·
silver wrote:
And i still dont understand the judging criterea / system.....4 years on
Nath
Join the Club get a trophy easy
😂
ian.mezz ·
this is funny stuff .
A bored 5 & 7 year old kid and things need to change. .😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂
azzatron ·
ian.mezz wrote:this is funny stuff .
A bored 5 & 7 year old kid and things need to change. .😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂
I feel sorry for them if they waited for the engine blow...
HotRodMatt ·
ian.mezz wrote:this is funny stuff .
A bored 5 & 7 year old kid and things need to change. .😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂
Is it crazy?
Organisers would be crazy to ignore it. Let's face it, in cold hard reality, the majority of patrons are only there because it is the only reasonably sized VW event that is put on. People through the gate year after year isn't always an endorsement - much of it it just marquee loyalty.
Bored children means cranky parents. The kids and partner don't come next year. The year after that neither parent or kids come through the gate...
I saw a lot of people leaving around 10am. Including some people I encouraged to come have a look. Why? The drive in judging probably... you can't look at the cars as they are queued up and the look is pretty quick with those who have made it inside. Bye bye they go... Promotors got their bucks today, but they won't ever again.
ian.mezz ·
azzatron wrote:
ian.mezz wrote:this is funny stuff .
A bored 5 & 7 year old kid and things need to change. .😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂
I feel sorry for them if they waited for the engine blow...
yeah that bloody thing went for 25 minutes 😂
kylandpl ·
Hi,
Guys, I help park the cars on Show day and let me give you an insight into the judging/ parking game...
Judges start at 7.30am for those who show up early. We must judge and park approx 250 cars. Now if we had 250 cars waiting for us ay 7.30am, we may be able to have them all in place when Joe Public turns up at 9am.
However, if show entrants are still turning up at 11am (and they do), how do we have them judged and in place by 10am before some people leave?
The logistics of the show mean that cars are still being entered and driven in up 'till 11am! If you want to see all the cars, don't show up until midday! We can't display cars that haven't turned up yet!
Also, people turn up at 10.30am and say, "can I park next to my buddy?", the one who turned up at 8am and is now surrounded by 50 other cars! If you want to park together, TURN UP TOGETHER.
My biggest concern on the day is trying to park cars while wading through the crowd to find a spot. If somebody's kid gets run-over, then we won't have a show. I would love to have all cars entered and parked by 9am so that everyone can see all the cars at the same time, but unless we insist on people showing up well before 9am, it ain't going to happen.
It takes time to judge and position cars, so unfortunately the show "builds" over the day until it ends and everyone buggers off in 10 mins!
Don't forget it takes a few minutes to judge each car, and there is around 250 to judge. Our judges do this in around 3.5 hours, and don't stop once for a break. If you turn up at 10am to be judged, you are going to have to wait!
Another common complaint is "why can't you park all the Beetle/Kombis/Type 3's/Karmann's, etc together?". I would love to. However, not everyone wants to park with the same car as theirs, and we don't know how many spaces to reserve for each type that may or may not show up!. Also, if we park all the Beetles in one place, and the crowd is trying to look at them, it is difficult to drive another Beetle THROUGH the crowd to park in the same area.
Please understand that we do the best we can to make EVERYONE happy, but we also need to look at the PRACTICAL side of running the show. The show for me dosen't start until the last car is parked at around 11am, and then I get to go look at what's left in the swapmeet!
waltermitty ·
kylandpl wrote:My biggest concern on the day is trying to park cars while wading through the crowd to find a spot. If somebody's kid gets run-over, then we won't have a show.
Not great for the kid either ! LOL.M
1303Steve ·
Gringo_54_oval wrote:One thing i recon they should change is the volume of the PA during the day. Down a couple of notches then up a couple of notches when their handing out tropheys couldnt hear the bloke saying peoples names.
Maybe tell people what car their winning for, maybe he did and i didnt hear it.
Either way i always enjoy the veedub show and always hang for it so cheers to keeping it happening
Alex
Hi
Its nice to spend a day out with your kids but they can get bored at these sort of things, well maybe you could wait until they are a bit older, I like to stop and have chin wag and catch up VW friends, I guess that you are the same, the kids wouldn't appreciate that.
I dragged my teenage son out of bed at 5am to come to the nats with me to take a photo of every entrants car so that he could do slide show like last year of the winning cars, the projector died so we couldn't do it, we will be better prepared next year.
Steve
Paulc1964au ·
I would like to clear up a few misconceptions about this thread. in my Professional life I have been trained to accept all types of feedback it is free and you can accept it or decide to act upon it or not too. We are also trained to do a learning cycle where u look at the experience and what worked and what didn't and continue to make improvements.
It is all about continuous improvement and I would say most people here have made some good genuine comments and feedback.
Ok the judging looks to be an issue is there any consideration to judge the day before then park cars in order of merit in each class on the Sunday? This would reduce setup times on the Sunday, those at Wakefield would need to judge early Sunday morning but it would reduce the time for judging on Sunday although people would have to get there on both days.
Do not be discouraged by suggestions we all look forward to the Annual event we just want to see it become even more successful
silver ·
Only judge the cars that are at Wakefield, that would help bump up attendance for the sprints......
Ian Bugden ·
Craig Torrens wrote:The EVO nats on the weekend was at Eastern creek raceway and it worked well for a "combo" event. There was the car show, skidpan and supersprints all at the same time on Saturday, Saturday night was a dinner and then Sunday was the hillclimb down at Huntley.
Each year it is held in a different state (last year VIC) and its now building momentum amongst the EVO crowd as a "dont miss" event.
Would be good to have a VW event with the same format.😎
Isn't that what the Bug In does?
As a spectator I was blown away by the show, I used to get to the Nats when the gates opened but was always disapointed so now I don't rock up until after 10am. The swap meet blew me away, I have never seen that many vendors!
Yes the judging of cars coming through was slow, but owners should realise this and get there early, you know the show is on, you have had plenty of notice about it so why not prepare?
I am suprised that there haven't been other shows/cruises etc startup to coincide with the nats.
As somebody said, I used to go with my wife and kids but they were getting bored so now I come along to the show. It is the only interstate show I attend. I even skipped it a few years as it is usually the same cars year after year with a few new ones thrown in. The formate hasn't changed either so I check out the swap meet, look for new cars and leave.
I also agree that the Nats is really the only noteworthy show in the southern NSW area, so I attend to get my VW fix for the year.
Club presence wasn't as noticable this year and I only spotted one person from my home club which was dissapointing.
All in all I applaud the people behind the nats but also agree it needs a little freshen up. The number of entrants was awesome but spectators also need to be accomadated too.
Sorry for the long and disjointed post but that is my 2 cents worth.
Ian.
Sunset Garage ·
Here's a novel idea. Why don't you have two lanes for showcars and two different entry prices.
One for those who wish to line up for hours, to have their car judged so they have a chance to get a plastic trophy and feel validated for all their hard work and/or money spent. (My apologies to all you Trophy Hounds😊)
The other lane can be for those who simply wish to participate, which adds to the numbers (which seem to be getting smaller) and don't require validation (from someone they probably don't even know) that their ride is the best for that category. They could drive straight in (slowly so as not to hit all the children trying to throw themselves under a moving vehicle...) and park up, thus reducing the amount of vehicles needing to be judged.
Have any of the organisers ever considered asking the entrants whether they want their car judged? Why is it mandatory?
byronbus ·
Why cant the shed be filled from one end, as people park judging begins, and judging closes at 11am. $30 to get judged, get a judge me sticker, $20 to park and get a dont judge me sticker... those who dont want to pay $20 pay $10 and leave their car in car park...
Sunset Garage ·
Hey Byronbus thats freaky! We both posted the same idea only 1 minute apart!!😵💫
byronbus ·
Did that white and brown striped beetle win a trophy? It used to win every year...
byronbus ·
DOKA Dave wrote:Hey Byronbus thats freaky! We both posted the same idea only 1 minute apart!!😵💫
And i accidently cleared the form and so had to rewrite it...
Ian Bugden ·
And one last thing,
I don't believe anyone here is saying anything bad about the Nats just their opinions. I think we are better off having the nats than having nothing, so we are greatfull to the club and the efforts of the volunteers who help run the event.
Ian
byronbus ·
Id like the nationals to move back to the soccer fields, they were the good old days...
byronbus ·
How good was the year muller drove the rusty kombi around, now that was fun...
68Volkaru ·
As a noob to the scene, and also to loose my VW National cherry, I thought the day was a great one all round.... However, I was about to say the same thing as *DOKADave* and *byronbus*.
I had no interest at all in entering the comp for a trophy. I just wanted to park my car inside, and participate in the day by talking to other people and getting advice, as I knew my car was 'different', and it is a good way to actually gain info by looking, pointing and touching what is in front of you, not what is parked outside in the car park.
Driving out, we saw some amazing vehicles in the car park, with no-one around to ask questions of or to have a closer look (without looking that little bit suss..Maybe it was my hoodie 😁 and coathanger that looked suss....jokes).
I think, if it is possible, to have two lanes, and two different stickers. One for judging, and one for general 'gawking'. Charge the general cars 20 nikka, instead of the 30. We 'non participants/only gawkers' could park outside on the grass, or some where else inside the grounds that suits.
Just my two cents from fresh eyes.
68Volkaru ·
Oh, and I second the volume of the loud speaker.🤪
LUFTMEISTER ·
Just a suggestion. Most of the logistics could be solved with stickers at the entrance gate. Say numbered Gold sticker ($30) for cars that want to judged and sent to a separate area. Silver numbered stickers ($20) for cars that want to park and show. The silvers would be eligible for a peoples choice award and a kids favorite award. Then $10 for walk in punters with a peoples choice or kids choice award vote form. Maybe a free kids (cheep) show bag or icy pole to encourage future Dub owners. (paid for by the exorbitant swap meet fees....sorry couldn't resist) My2c
Ben386 ·
As someone who has been to all three National venues,I think this venue is good,but people who want their car under cover need, to be at the venue no later than 9.
Entry should be from six oclock.The sticker(judge me,judge me not) is a great idea.
A section in the carpark should be put aside for assembly of catergories so that cars in classes can drive thru together.
I also would like to see independant car show judges judge all the cars rather than drive thru judging.
Also the Aircooled/watercooled issues that some people go on with needs to be resolved.Its not two different shows.Thanks.
matberry ·
byronbus wrote:Id like the nationals to move back to the soccer fields, they were the good old days...
I last went to the Nats when it was at the soccer fields. It was good there but arguably even better at Hawksbury Ag College, had a ball there.....crikey I must be OLD🤓
vw54 ·
We carnt have cars under the coverd area that dont want to be judged we just carnt fit the cars that do want to be judged into the venue so thas out of the question
as for the car park join the club and volenteer we need about 10 people to do that side of teh show in the car park
" the white and brown striped beetle win a trophy?" didnt enter this year the owner was one of the judges this year
""would like to see independant car show judges judge all the cars "" let me know if you can find some that know Volkswagens
"" the year muller drove the rusty kombi around "" glad no one got injured if something had of happened it would have voided out insurance we classify the show as STATIC which makes a big difference
"" the Nats when it was at the soccer fields. It was good there but arguably even better at Hawksbury Ag College "' you are old Matt LOL yes we moved away from those venues so we didnt have to pay for the accomodation set up which was getting expensive even if we didnt use it
grumpy ·
My Kids have been to all VW Shows from day one [ not dragged ] They love it. Its in there blood .Then again every body treats them like family. GOOD WORK CLUB V.W. [ you little Gem Dave ] Col.
kombee ·
I think the National is getting bigger and bigger and the club have to be ready for the future.
The only way to support is with positive ideas and ''realistic one''.
Join the club ,put the ideas and the club have to ''listen'' the'' new'' for the future.I'm happy but I think.
With the support of everyone, ''the national '' is the first motor show.
byronbus ·
vw54 wrote:We carnt have cars under the coverd area that dont want to be judged we just carnt fit the cars that do want to be judged into the venue so thas out of the question
Heaps of room in the gates outside...
" the white and brown striped beetle win a trophy?" didnt enter this year the owner was one of the judges this year - Thats the 1st year they havent won?
"" the year muller drove the rusty kombi around "" glad no one got injured if something had of happened it would have voided out insurance we classify the show as STATIC which makes a big difference
Dave, you just cant tell some people...
Ian Bugden ·
What if you had the"Gawkers" park on the infield of the Trotter trck? that would free up more space undercover.
robb ·
some really good ideas there, thats thinking outside the square as they say
LUFTMEISTER ·
Seems to be a blockage in the colon.😉
robb ·
well i suppose its better than nothing, gotta start somewhere keep the think tank moving
vw54 ·
What if you had the"Gawkers" park on the infield of the Trotter trck? that would free up more space undercover.
I have ask that question before and from memory there are 3 seperate identies there under the council and of course they dont talk to each other
I am pretty sure the responce was NO as you may have seen trotters doing training on the track during the day so they want access to there track unrestricted
but i will ask again
ian.mezz ·
MID WINTER WANDER
Poklobin NSW. Mid - Winter Wander– All profits to ‘CAMP QUALITY KIDS’ – Classic Cars, Street Machines & Motorcycles.
The drive will begin early with a mass assembly at the Stockland Glendale Shopping Centre. Then at 9am the largest convoy of unique vehicles in NSW will set out for the award winning international tourist destination that is the Hunter Valley Gardens at Pokolbin. The scenic route will cover 80 kilometres through Edgeworth, Wakefield, Freeman’s Waterhole and along Sandy Creek Road to Millfield, and then back through Bellbird, Cessnock and along Mount View Road to Hunter Valley Gardens. At the HVG event enjoy: Pinkie’s Music, stalls, face painting, food, jumping castle and much more. 9.00am until 3pm. Prizes for best selection of vehicles, fantastic raffle prizes. Entry fee $2.00 entitles one Goody Bag per vehicle to be paid after entry to the Hunter Valley Gardens. Contacts NRVC - Dan Bergquist mob:0419349077 or Bill Kalb mob:0428465057
Date Sunday, 19 June 2011
Time 7:00 AM- 3:00 PM
Location Stockland Glendale / Hunter Valley Gardens
Cost $2.00
I should hope to see all yous that are making feedback at this car event as it seems to cover all your needs and wants.😊
newghia ·
Maybe enter the non judged through the top gate & the others down through the bottom or vice-versa,
top gate for judged would enable spectators to see the process as they come through,
as for the infield parking,
i know the caretaker who lives on site, he is also one of the trotter trainers,
i will ask him if this is possible when i see / speak to him next,
what happened to the photos of the entrants / winners at the presentation this year ?
was a good way to see who the recipients were last year,
P.A needs to lower in volume during the day, but go up at the presentation,
or get the announcer to hold the mike up closer to his mouth please