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Car tune up! & dyno @ CCB Car picked up now - New dyno sheet & vid added 30-6

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vvwbeetle ·

Just dropped the car to mike at CCB to have it dyno tuned and oil and plugs

Plan is to pick it up Saturday morning.park it for the weekend (double points) then go up for the hunter valley cruise next Sunday.

All being well.

Gringo_54_oval ·

Your bug will wistle beautifully.
Mike knows his stuff. Once i sort out issues with my bora the oval will be next

Paulc1964au ·

Interested to see if you notice a difference in performance, my plan is too eventually replace my 1600 with a 1916 from CCB

Gringo_54_oval ·

Thats what i did when my 1600 died.
Its the best thing iv done.
His engines are great

vvwbeetle ·

CBB didn't build the engine that's in but they are willing to tune it for me.

Can not wait to get it back and see how it goes after a tune.it went well on Sunday but does seem to get a bit more fuel than needed down low.

vvwbeetle ·

Got an email back from mike. Need to talk to him tomorrow.

Car is apparently low on power for the capacity.(feeling low myself now).

1 Spark plugged completey fouled. Replaced a base gasket on the carbies.

Hopefully the news is better than what i think.

vvwbeetle ·

Engine being stripped down and rebuilt.hope to get the car back in a few weeks.

Hopefully with more ponies than it has now!

Gringo_54_oval ·

Good stuff.
What cc's getting done

vvwbeetle ·

2332cc which is what it is ment to be according to guy I bought it from.

Mike did a lot of work to get as much out of the car as possible and could only manage 110 @ the wheels.

Hopefully he will find why it's low and fix it for me.

There are a few other things that will get done at the same time.

Now I am really looking forward to getting the car back as I thought it went well before.

vassy66T1 ·

What are the specs on the engine?
110hp at the wheels is quite okay if it is a mild engine.

Bizarre ·

^^^^ agreed

Mild cam, non-worked heads and low CR will produce those sort of figures
110 ponies at the wheels with a heap of torque is a lot of fun

vvwbeetle ·

Hi Guys this is what I can see from the receipts

82 x 94 case

84 moly chevy crank

94 b pistion kit

AA 5.5 chevy H Beam ADP2000

AA straight cut gear set

Scat p’ rods

Scat Lifters

Scat push rod tubes

Wedge port Cylinder heads – 44 x 37 mm 94 bore

LS-1 Upgrade

FK87 – adv. Duration 322 degrees / dur @ .050’’’’ 274 degrees / lift @ cam.398’’’’ / lift w/1.1:1 rocker arms . 437’’’’ / lift w/1.25:1 .498’’’’ / lift w/1.4:1 . 597’’’’

IDF match ported big beef intake manifolds – wedge ports

Forged 1.4:1 Rocker arms

C Channel Valve cover gaskets

94mm 0.040 thick copperhead gaskets

ian.mezz ·

vvwbeetle wrote:Now I am really looking forward to getting the car back as I thought it went well before.
If you thought it went well , why pull it apart ??? are you after a bigger HP number.:😊
I hope you don't miss out on to many vw runs while shes in the shop.
ps While the motors out get the clutch checkd and you better give the brakes a look at and change the brake fluid

vassy66T1 ·

Okay with wedge ports and FK87 you would expect a bit higher number (maybe 130-140's)
What carbs or injection and exhaust/muffler?

johny rotten ·

Ask Mike to crack test the AA crank and rods, just in case .
😀

vvwbeetle ·

The carbies are 48's

He said he would expect 130 - 140 at the wheels. So hopefully this is where we will get close to.

There are no lash caps and the rod have no adjustment on them, plus a few other things.

Found out that there was not engine mounts in either so having those put in.

Hopefully I don't miss out on many cruises.

vvwbeetle ·

The engine is now back together, hope to collect the car next Thursday all being well.

vassy66T1 ·

Cool!!

It will be a rocket.🤪

coletrickle ·

Yep you should be looking around 130. 140 hp, my 2332 fk87. 48 Ida streeter with hand ported heads made 143@wheels.

Brian ·

What changes were made to the engine on the rebuild ?

Ollie ·

What compression is the motor?

matberry ·

Good on ya Clarky....& Brian

Also What... cam timing, exhaust?

110 rwhp isn't necessarilly all bad IMO

Keen to hear how the upgrade went.

vvwbeetle ·

The old compression was 7.9:1
The aim was to go for around 10:1 this time around
Had to replace a lot of parts inside I'll update later when back on the computer

ian.mezz ·

youll have twice as much as our old 2213 has.
77hp@ wheels 😊

😂🤪😂

Craig Torrens ·

vvwbeetle wrote:The old compression was 7.9:1
The aim was to go for around 10:1 this time around
Had to replace a lot of parts inside I'll update later when back on the computer
Had to replace parts ???? I thought this motor was NEW when you bought the car ??

vvwbeetle ·

So did I Craig,

Pulling it apart told another story though - unfortunatley you trust some people.

anyway some on the parts that had to be replaced are below

84mm CB Race Crank
Std Main Bearing
Chevy Big End Brgs
Double thurst CAm Bearing
Long Barrels
CB Cam
Adjustable cam gear (I chose not to go with the straight cuts)
CB Light weight lifters
Chromoly head rocker studs
Jaycee adjustable push rod tubes
CB Chromoly.58 push rods

I have also replaced the old exhaust

Paulc1964au ·

Sounds like its going to hurt the wallet as well

Klaus ·

You want to sell the old engine internals or did mike keep them?

vvwbeetle ·

Hi Paul,

It might hurt now but I think it would have hurt more had I been driving the car and something happened.

at least now I know what I have got for sure.

Mike @ CBB has been great, and has made me feel at ease with everything and that i am going to get an engine that suits what I want it for and have some power there.

Its a shame that I have a family day on Sunday the 3rd otherwise i would have done the Bug & Bus show up the central coast.

I will now have to keep an eye out for the next thing that is on and get out and meet some people and enjoy the car.


Hi Klaus,

I'll find out on Thursday what is happening to the old parts.

I'll keep you posted.

Klaus ·

no worries , you still own them and may aswell make a couple of hundred for junk bits 🙂 mainly cam crank lifters n barrels and straight cut gears

vassy66T1 ·

I too have learnt that an engine put together by someone else is just an unknown.
All my parts were good fortunately but would not have lasted 12 months.
You are right, the money now for the known result is worth it in the long run.

vvwbeetle ·

Just about to jump on train to collect the car.

Shame about the weather. At least I'm getting the car back though.

Can not wait to get there and see how it went on the dyno after the build.

Mike was happy with it when I spoke to him last night and said I should have a huge smile on my face. I am sure I will which will make it all worth it.

Now just trying to figure out if I can afford to keep it as the extra expense is something I was not counting on. But at least know it's done correctly now and if I do sell it I will know that the car and engine I sell are great and I would not have a guilty conscience.

I hope I figure a way out to keep it

Paulc1964au ·

I really hope you can keep the car especially now u have a rebuilt engine. The problem is even if you sell you may not cover the total cost.

1303Steve ·

Hi

My opinion is that you only loose money when you sell them, the value to you is priceless.

Steve

vvwbeetle ·

Yes I agree Paul and Steve but I now have convince the wife to extend the home loan.we are already doing reno's to the house.

I'm sure it will be ok but also have to be realistic.


Anyway picking it in penrith then considering a drive even in this weather home is back up Hornsby way any ideas where I should go?

donn ·

any ideas where I should go?

Yep..............

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91243

vvwbeetle ·

I would love to go donn unfortunately I have family commitments that day.

Ollie ·

Looking forward to seeing the results!

ian.mezz ·

hows it go around town 60ks zone ?? not to chuggy😊

matberry ·

7.9:1 and 119rwhp (or so I heard), and now it's 10:1 and how much power?????

What are your expectations with the new combo?

Was Mike not able to keep the lower CR? More power at the same CR would mean more.........at least then we are comparing the same thing.

76bug ·

so what did the rebuild end up costing?

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE ·

Keen to see some results and details if you have them....

vvwbeetle ·

Hi Just got home.

On the way home I rang the wife and said we are not selling the car.

Matt the car did get 119 on the lower comp. - when I bought it I took it out to Mike to have it tuned up it, was backfiring at lot and running rough.

he put it on the dyno and could only get 110 the engine had only done 500kms or so i was told.

that power loss had me concerned that in such a short drive time it had lost the power.

Mike also came across a few otherthings that made me think its better to pull the engine apart and check.

As much as it hurt the back pocket it was so worth it, even though I have only driven it home - not great roads to drive on.

The dyno sheet I have says 151hp now.

It sounds great with the new exhaust and its so smooth to drive, it was even was great in the 40km/h school zones. 60/70/80 all great too.

vvwbeetle ·

Dyno sheet.

Before and after the rebuild - Mike had done a lot of work to get it to 110 before.

I don't think it would have had that when I drove it in.

Can not believe I thought it went well before.

1916baja ·

What a weapon! That would be a blast to drive! Put it on a trailer and bring it up to warwick....

Klaus ·

very cool, what oil temps does it run and what fuel , 98 ? Dont forget i'm interested in the chinese junk 🙂

vvwbeetle ·

Hi klaus

Running in traffic today @ 210 driving around the 190-200.

98 octane fuel.

Collected all parts. They went home in my fathers car.I'll get them monday.
Also brought back the old exhaust.

I'll pm you the items when I have them

I am going down the coast this weekend past your place unfortunately I won't have them until Monday.

ian.mezz ·

good news , that you will be keeping the little rocket.😊

Gringo_54_oval ·

never sell your bug you will regret for a very long time!!!!!

151hp is damm good
good on ya mate enjoy the new found horse power

cnfabo ·

151 ponies of pure FUN........... you will have a grin from ear to ear every time u step in that thing....yew...

Klaus ·

thats pretty good temps for the power , if your heading down the coast to berry on sunday , I'll come n have a sticky beak .

matberry ·

Well done, that's for sure. Thanks for stepping up with the dyno sheets. Feel free to share more specs 🙂, no doubt a CB cam to go with those wedgies.

Craig Torrens ·

Congrats Simon, now we should go for a cruise down the old highway to Brooklyn 👍

vassy66T1 ·

👍 Great numbers.

Glad to hear it has come together for you.
Now don't flog it too hard too soon.

vvwbeetle ·

Video of Dyno Run

lauzboy ·

vvwbeetle wrote:the engine had only done 500kms or so i was told
probably shouldn't have bought an engine with so few km's on it. oh well