hi guys
we'll seeing as though brad and i have'nt touched the car
since getting back from portland
we thought we should get started
heads are coming off tonight for a bit of a freshen up
and a few other bits and peices i'll post pics and keep you posted
and dave check it out i spelt warwick right 馃槀
Ollie 路
Hell Yeah! Keen for updates!
dangerous 路
are the heads off yet?
1303Steve 路
STOCK wrote:heads are coming off tonight for a bit of a freshen up
How many trips to maccas will that take
matberry 路
1303Steve wrote:
STOCK wrote:heads are coming off tonight for a bit of a freshen up
How many trips to maccas will that take
馃槀馃槀馃槀
Isn't Stock into KFC, mmmmmm greasy.... or surely there's a Kebab shop nearby. 馃槀
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Yeah furry sik one bro wit heaps of homus and tabouli lol
1303Steve 路
matberry wrote:
1303Steve wrote:
STOCK wrote:heads are coming off tonight for a bit of a freshen up
How many trips to maccas will that take
馃槀馃槀馃槀
Isn't Stock into KFC, mmmmmm greasy.... or surely there's a Kebab shop nearby. 馃槀
The Gazza strip is down the road, but maccas is closer
westi 路
Tc brothers mate. And they deliver.
STOCK 路
hi guys
heads are off
pistons and barrells look ok (ye ha)
manifolds are gunna get a litlle tickle up
on inspection of heads we've pushed out a couple of seats (spewing)
so valves are out and now cutting out the old seats new ones to go in, new valve springs,retainers etc
seating pressures will be increased as we realised now we were'nt running enough
more updates later
hellbugged 路
always good to watch
STOCK 路
after cutting the old valve seats out we think the old heads have run their race
so we've admitted defeat and got some new heads
the porting will start tomorrow , i'll post pics of the ports when they're done
Dak-A-Tak 路
Who's shed did Brad steel them from , mate . Good to see work happening instead of crap talk .
stoker 路
pete,take a chill pill. this goes on all the time down here and we all enjoy it
when you take things to serious you get bent out of shape which aint no good for nobody
if brad got to serious he could go SECRET SQUILLEL on us but knowing him he wouldnt do that,would you brad you big lug
STOCK 路
dido dave love your work
pete , actually picked them up from mr penrose on monday we'll i didnt brad did
we're actually trying to get a hold of some valve covers
apart from buying some direct from autocraft or making some ourselves any ideas guys
blue vizion 路
'which aint no good for nobody'
A Multiple Negation Dave, that is impressive!!
(A multiple negation is the more general term referring to the occurrence of more than one negative in a clause. In some languages, double negatives cancel one another. Languages where multiple negatives intensify each other are said to have
negative concord).
Who says we speak crap!
dangerous 路
STOCK wrote:dido dave love your work
pete , actually picked them up from mr penrose on monday we'll i didnt brad did
we're actually trying to get a hold of some valve covers
apart from buying some direct from autocraft or making some ourselves any ideas guys
pm your addrerss!
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
The mystical muffin man cupboard of VW performance may have what you need young one.....
Strong in the force he is......
Dak-A-Tak 路
All I say is crap talk does'nt win racers or help a car run fast and live ! Plus it's getting real old on here . ( yes I feel old)
So Dave S , I don't need to take any type of pill !!
Brad , I thought you might have twisted Macca's arm
Stanley 路
Nice work boys....any other tweaks to engine or car?.....or driver馃榾
stoker 路
blue vision,you are there!
pete,whatever
STOCK 路
pete brad and i are guna get some more shirts done for warwick this year
do you have a preference on colour mate馃槀馃槀
ah yeh hows the beast going is she all looking ok in the preperation stakes
STOCK 路
ok guys its been a while but our parts have finally arrived from the states.
valve covers
manifolds
heads "strip dominators"
rocker gear , valve springs, titanium valves etc etc
just like everthing else with the junka nothing can go on the car straight off the shelf!!!
so the manifolds have been cut open for a little work.
the heads are being machined so we can get the comp up to what we need 15 or 16 to 1
more updates as we go still a shitload to do and so little time to warwick we better get cracking
matberry 路
You shiela's better hurry up, looks like heaps to do.
No more VW castings on the Junka 馃檨馃檨馃檨
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
You boys getting serious eh?? Looking good!! What about wheelie bars? All this extra power you'll have you'll need em or stuff Stock under the bonnet for ballast LOL
hellbugged 路
220hp before strip dominators!.........now it's gonna be just plain crazy.
always nice to watch your work, keep it coming pretty please
馃憤
LOWBUG 路
Did you get the titanium valves as well?
stoker 路
beautiful brad,are you getting serious about warwick, it should be VERRRRY interesting this year i think!!!!!
but RED rockers should match your face when i flog your butt hahahah(do you think this should a response)
STOCK 路
LOWBUG wrote:Did you get the titanium valves as well?
yeh mate got all the good titanium shit
STOCK 路
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:You boys getting serious eh?? Looking good!! What about wheelie bars? All this extra power you'll have you'll need em or stuff Stock under the bonnet for ballast LOL
we were running wheelie bars at portland
good to see you were paying attention mate馃槀馃槀
ian.mezz 路
STOCK wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:You boys getting serious eh?? Looking good!! What about wheelie bars? All this extra power you'll have you'll need em or stuff Stock under the bonnet for ballast LOL
we were running wheelie bars at portland
good to see you were paying attention mate馃槀馃槀
heres the pit crew adjusting wheelei bars at Portland.
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Didn't go to portland sorry and that pic just looks like Macca mopping up some more oil hahahahaha
whathaveidone 路
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:Didn't go to portland sorry and that pic just looks like Macca mopping up some more oil hahahahaha
LOL, or is he trying to light it up with the battery pack???
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Recharging the energy polariser he got from Brocky waay back then....
LOWBUG 路
Are you guys making changes or freshening up the bottom end as well. Oh and by the way thats some pretty big comp your boasting, is that what your calcs are coming up with, or is that what you'd like, hate to damage those heads $$$$$$$$$. If the combo works its gonna be nasty.
westi 路
16 to 1 is the aim ,but proberly wont get it,gota have a dream though.
as for the bottom end it will proberly get a freshen up depends on time,and money.
my arse still hurts from buying the heads and rockers.no point doing things buy halfs.
as for the red face dave ,we'll see old man.
i have finished the heads for now so off to the flow bench they go to see if these yanky figures are as they say they are.
i will post up some pic's as i take em.
STOCK 路
as brad said heads have been machined
i think he is flowing them tomorrow
will let you know the figures once brads done them
here are some pics anyway
westi 路
done
westi 路
195@10''
15.5mm lift so far without manifold's.
they come to life when they get to about 9mm lift.
good for of the shelf .i have already cut the manifolds in half to see what the transfer from manifold to port is like.
it will definatly need some work but it is only minor.
i will try to get the manifolds back together over the next few day's so i can test the heads with the manifolds and throttles,hopefully find some more cfm there.
i don't know what the heads do straight of the shelf as i did do a few little things in the chamber,but i don't think it would be far of what they come as.
nice pic's fatman,u got the dt's or something.
don't forget your clothes tommorrow fatty.
dangerous 路
Good numbers, which flow bench?
Make sure the spark plug does not hit the piston.
16:1 will probably need .400 deep notches!
Hope your pistons are thick enough...and top ring is far enough away.
vassy66T1 路
Warwick is looking really good this year.
Nice work as always Westi
westi 路
i started on the fma bench.but it was running out of puff for the last few reading's.
i wanted to start the new head on the same bench before getting them on the new one so i had some idea of the difference in cfm.
i should, if i can find the time. put it on the new bench on the weekend.fingers crossed.
i spent last night making a valve spring removing tool.
dangerous 路
Surecam on the mid north coast has the equipment,
but you wont get it back in time for Warwick.
I am guessing that Crow Cams has the simulation gear also.
Any good cam people should have it.
Be interesting to see the difference between the two benches,
dont get too excited till you run them on the other bench.
Mine flowed more with the manif and thrott.
Those figures closely match mine at 10".
(179 to 184@.550 to 600" @10" with manifold and throttles).
I use one of these and an angle plate to R&R the springs,
and check for travel and bind:
westi 路
nah i am not realy worried about the total cfm with that bench just wanted to compare the 2 heads to see if there was much of a change.
once i finish the jig to hold it,i quess i will see the difference.i can't really test the old head any more they have been put aside for a rainy day.
but at least i can now see the difference betweeen the 2 benches.
my spring remover ain't that good.bit's of steel and shit welded together.it il do.
pull ed the motor apart last night so hopefully i will get some new bearings today and slap it back together tonight.
question for you dave.
head studs were and when.and what friggin invention did you com up with to do em up.
dangerous 路
Head studs were just 10mm Autocraft, and VW 8mm for the extras.
My other engine uses VW 10mm on all studs.
Ranging from the 36hp and up to 1600, there are just about any length you might need.
You can tension them to 35lbs no probs.
You will most likely need 12 point nuts though,
and make up a special ring spanner to use with your torque wrench
for tightening the hard to reach ones.
STOCK 路
hey guys a few more updates:
*heads are machined (still to be ported though)
*so friday night we thought we better pull out the motor so we can
rebuild the bottom end so its finished , then we can mock up
to flycut the pistons , then concentrate on porting making
manifolds etc etc
case pulled apart all cleaned (ready for assembly)
welcome to westside's engine building room(we believe in a controlled sterile environment 馃槀馃槀)
after we paid for the new heads budgets tight (cant afford feeler gauges) so we check cam end float the westside way馃お馃お
duh were did that peice go again 馃お馃お
crank rods etc all back together in our purpose built facility
ready to go back into case
case halves about to go back together, we'll cut the pistons tomorrow
we should have barrells tuesday, we'll machine them (bottom end done ) then back to the heads and manifolds
more updates soon guys see ya
whathaveidone 路
so what cost more???? The engine build or the Maccas coke?????
ian.mezz 路
I think the cokes used for cleaning parts 馃槀
venFun10 路
coming along nicely mate
you sure love to leave a lot of work last minute
how light is your car? looks light
nbturbo 路
what friggin invention did you com up with to do em up. [/quote]
Brad-this is what I came up with to do mine head stud nuts up.Welded an old 3/8" drive socket to a 7/16 ringy, exactly 6 inches from the centre of the ring.I use an inch pound tension wrench set at 170 which gave me 35 foot pounds.I tested it on a bolt and nut in the vice,using my 1/2" drive tension wrench,and they both did the nut to the same tension.
westi 路
the car was 1410 last time it was weighed ,but it will be heavier now,new wheelie bars heads and od's and sod's.
i will take the weight back out when i stick some front cage legs in it.
yeh thats what i am talking about,nbturbo good idea.
haven't touch the car this week.
i pulled the bottm end back apart to get the cam and crank re-balanced.flywheel machined and get the cam checked stability wise.
hopefully get all my shit back early next week so i can put it all together again.
venFun10 路
nice
good luck
Stanley 路
hey westi....unlike you to be so quite a month out from warwick....wtf is going on
1303Steve 路
Hi
I been working a late shift, I saw Westise car and a few other cars at the shop very late on Saturday & Sunday night, must be really burning the candle.
Steve
westi 路
as per usuall leave everything to the last minute .
i have been getting everyone esles cars together for jambo and test and tunes and all that shit,so poor old junka gets rushed once again.
i have ,when i get a chance to work on it been playing around with cam timing and deck hieghts and all that jazz in order to keep the comp up around 16 ish to 1.
finally think i got it ,but i am runnig out of time.
ordered the bigger fuel pump and injector's tonight.
did my last check's for piston to valve,i had heaps of old shit layin around to machine up and test in the engine,so i am pretty happy with the finished product.now i just need to get some new pistions,hopefully get them tommoorrow and do a machine fest over the weekend an get it all back together buy monday ,then all i have to do is make extractors inlet manifolds fuel rails a few fuel lines,brakes master upgrade as i haven't had brakes for awhile now.and i might need them if all goes to plan.
if i don't have the car up to puting engine in on monday i think i will have to pull afew more allnighters to get it done,but what else is new.
vassy66T1 路
I like your commitment Westi!
Looking forward to seeing you at Warwick.
westi 路
question for dave,
i have 4mm piston thickness at the radius of the piston of the recess,it is 4mm thick for about 10mm of the radius.the rest around 5mm +.
what do you recon?馃お
yeh marcuss i look forward to catching up and havin abit of fun .
dangerous 路
I have gone as thin as 3.5mm no probs...no N2O though.
westi 路
cheers dave
yeh that was what i was thinking ,no nos bummer馃お
i will get the fat man to take some pic's before we start putting the engine back together for hopefully the last and final time.
westi 路
dave got any 283mm long pushrods layin around.
dangerous 路
nothing thick in that length, only 277 or 293,
or new berg that can make up to 305....what spring load at full lift?
westi 路
just under 500pounds
dangerous 路
Berg 200k or CB taper, or any good .060" wall 3/8 tube can handle that.
STOCK 路
hey guys quick update
i'll post up some pics tomorrow
motor finally done (when i left tonight brad was finishing up the exhaust, and
the throttle linkage)
then just hook up some oil lines , set rockers and she's ready to go back in the car,
that will happen this week , then a few little ods and sods on the car, and she's ready for the trailer
cant wait for warwick and i know brads the same
STOCK 路
post up the pic's fatty.
STOCK 路
oop's still logged in as stock.
dangerous 路
400lbs lighter than me and more power,
should be so fast you will go back in time.
6.60's Westi?
westi 路
Gota have a dream.
I just want brake the 100mph barrier.
And the into the 6's.
After that .
Who know's maybe Win a final.
Let's not count chickens just yet.I haven't even got it running yet.
STOCK 路
hey guys here's the pics
brad and i still have a sh**load to do and not much time
hopefully we can get everything buttoned up and dynoed by the end of the weekend
but i think there will be a couple of sleepless nights this weekend
any way here's some progress shots to wet your appetite
manifolds installed with injectors and fuel rails done 1600cc injectors
throttle bodies and trumpets attached
exhaust fab starting we're running 4 to 1 this time
engine ready for install
some shots of engine and exhaust installed
STOCK 路
anyway guys thats all for now more updates later
Boostn 路
Looking sick dude!!
This baby is going to boogie!
Did you have the indy's before for meth or 85?
Is that pump new?
Stanley 路
awesome shit westi....
one question though....heat from your pipes into the sump and pump....I'm asssuming you've thought about that and don't consider it an issue for the length of time it will be running.
dangerous 路
Love that collector and stinger, is mine ready yet?
westi 路
i got my old stinger if you want it dave.it used to be my wheelie bars last year at warwick though.so it has some battle scares.but it's yours if you want it mate.
as for the pump,i had it on for a few years now.and injectors were only 1000cc before,but with the new heads i thought i would need alittle more fuel,so the indy's were they best option i think.
as for the heat in the sump stanley.
no oil realy stay's in there as it has a dry sump set up.
sorry there hasn't been many pic's so far guy's.
were not doing stupid secrect squirel shit,we are just to busy with customers car's,so the poor old girl only get's worked on after hours.
i gota say though,f--k it's lookin good.i am as happy as a pig in shit.i hope you enjoy the pic's
venFun10 路
hey mate good work and a1 quality.
you are obviously a professional and it shows in your work.
it stands out from many others for sure.
hypo-vw 路
great stuff Brad !! those throttle bodies and heads are very impressive . Cant wait to see how Junka goes with all the new goodies . well done mate
Dasdubber 路
Great stuff Brad, looking forward to catching up over a few bourbons at Warwick mate. Can't wait to see it run.
Al
matberry 路
Great stuff Brad, looking forward to sherberts next weekend.
westi 路
cheer's guy's.
few wiz fizzes and bourban's.maybe i shouldn't bring the junka .we'll have a bender instead.god know's i need one.
it's been awhile between drink's.
westi 路
i hope that you are all burning the midnight like we are.
did the brakes tonight /today.and only have a few breather lines to do later today .
so hopefully kick it in the gut's today during day light.
dangerous 路
how did your flow figures turn out dude?
westi 路
ran out of time to do the comparison testing.
i didn't get to check the heads with the manifolds on.i only made the when the engine was complete.
when we move shops after warwick i will proberly pull them of and do some further testing then ,so i will keep you posted.
LOWBUG 路
How did you go with the big comp?
westi 路
awsome.
15.9 on paper
matberry 路
15.9......thats outa sight !!!! 馃お
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
You using a starter motor off a Mack truck to turn that heap over?? Lol
LOWBUG 路
Shit, thats huge, what did you have to sacrifice, tops of pistons must be thin, are you still gonna run some gas?
westi 路
nah no gas ,not yet.
westi 路
back apart again,yippeee.f--in thing.
haaha.sleep is realy for the weak or realy smart people.i haven't worked it out yet.
no pic's no time.
picked up a bearing.
i have just finished cleaning everything and all is good just need to get some bearings and some new pushrods.
Dasdubber 路
Hope you got a good co-driver for the haul up to Warwick as I'm sure you'll need to get a least a little bit of sleep!
matberry 路
Doh...oh well, a few more days yet.....good luck dude, she'll be sweet. and remember, there's plenty of time for sleep AFTER Warwick.
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
You can sleep during Warwick and I'll drive it for you lol.
westi 路
you couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dog's ahhhahaah.
your so funny.
all done, dyno tommorrow and if all goes well, pack and get ready to leave thursday.
cya all
dangerous 路
Good work Brad, it should be a rocket.
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
westi wrote:you couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dog's ahhhahaah.
your so funny.
all done, dyno tommorrow and if all goes well, pack and get ready to leave thursday.
cya all
Have you changed the name of your car to dogs arse?? Hahahaha
20bkombi 路
Love your dedication!
Big effort
Can't wait to see it run with all the new mods, see you sat.
Aaron
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Did it survive the dyno??
STOCK 路
Hi guys
car held together on dyno sounds pretty sweet
Our pushrods didn't show up in time so we had to use some shitty
35 thou wall peices of crap
So we couldn't rev it past 6000 it made 210 rwhp at that rpm
So not to bad considering were on our way well do some tuning up
There see you soon
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Junka just didn't want to play this weekend!! Anything that could remotely go wrong did!! Pushed the car from our pit bay across the road to scrutineering and punctured a brand new rear slick. Raced all over Warwick to find someone to fix it and finally did!! Back to track and ready to go then storm hit and wiped out quick shades. Cut them up with the grinder and threw them in the bin. So Sunday rolled around and we were ready to go. Got the car started after it didn't really want to and it made it to the staging lanes. Started it again and pre stage burnout was ok then up to line and it stopped. Tried to start it and wouldn't even turn over. Westi will pull it apart when the boys return home to see what it is.
whathaveidone 路
must have something to do with all the ash in the case!!!!!
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
whathaveidone wrote:must have something to do with all the ash in the case!!!!!
ahahahahahahahaha or the diesel oil hahahahahaha
matberry 路
馃憥
No wonder the Westi boys slipped away so quietly
typethreeking 路
centre main locked up or broken crankshaft, brad thinks centre main..
westi 路
First thought's were of a bearing issue. Or even a clearance issue. Due to all the late nights the only thing that is constant is human error. So you Would think.
Doing some check's . On old bearings and lifters from the engine that has been in the car for over 3 years.
They tell me luck was on my side.
When the rollers are passing through there motions they have a spot were they bleed of alot of oil.
Since most of the oil pressure checks are always done at the front o the block and not at the rear . I am going to assume this is what has caused the problem.
You don't lose pressure all together but you don't supply enough were it counts.
Next problem is . If it was that simple ,then is it worth stepping up to bigger gear or staying with what I have.
Any info or suggestions would be appreciated .
westi 路
Ohh. And I hope all that attended the weekend had as much fun as we did.
I can't wait to catch up again soon.
JVLRacing 路
westi wrote:Ohh. And I hope all that attended the weekend had as much fun as we did.
I can't wait to catch up again soon.
read alot of ur stuff westi...always a credit....but do u think the problems u had were caused rushing to a event in preparation?...
westi 路
I wish it was that simple.
Human error I can live with.I admit I don't know everything.but if you can learn something new everyday.that's a bonus.
I think that luck has been on my side. The issue with oil is one that should have presented itself before. When I first changed to roller litters.
I will take it all as a good knock on the chin and a wake up call to leave nothing to chance.
So far it's an easy fix.
Just got to do some more home work and parts chasing.
I have set up an old block and will now do some flow testing with the oil.
I let you guy's know how it goes.
JVLRacing 路
deff a learning game馃槑
1303Steve 路
JVLRacing wrote:read alot of ur stuff westi...always a credit....but do u think the problems u had were caused rushing to a event in preparation?...
Hi JVL
Is that a stating the bleeding obvious comment?
Brad runs an extremely popular business and is in demand from some of the top modified car builders in the country.
I drove past his shop many times at ungodly hours leading up to Warwick and saw his daily driver out the front, I'm sure that his family would have preferred that he be at home with them and he would have as well.
If racers didn't push the envelope to get things done we would have had a very boring Warwick meeting.
Drink more Coke westi.
Steve
coletrickle 路
I know your still smiling brad cause at least you didn't pay someone to screw up your stuff!C.L.A rule number one do it yourself cause you can eff it for free.Between dyno day and last weekend I built my motor had it in and out 3 or more times and an easy 50 hours screwing around with it.Brad I suspect you like me will be doing some "gearbox testing" when all the planners align.
whathaveidone 路
how did you go at the Jamboree Col????
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE 路
Did you break out the aero dynamic tape and put trust in the Carleton custom upholstered sun visors Col? Lol
Were they scared of you is prolly the question we all need answered.....
coletrickle 路
All turned to shit! Spent ages chasing problems that turned out to be an electic fault at the front of the car!bloody white mans magic!still I had 1 qualifying run full street trim on 215 kendas and way off jetting ran 14.4@90. So there is promise.
JVLRacing 路
1303Steve wrote:
JVLRacing wrote:read alot of ur stuff westi...always a credit....but do u think the problems u had were caused rushing to a event in preparation?...
Hi JVL
Is that a stating the bleeding obvious comment?
Brad runs an extremely popular business and is in demand from some of the top modified car builders in the country.
I drove past his shop many times at ungodly hours leading up to Warwick and saw his daily driver out the front, I'm sure that his family would have preferred that he be at home with them and he would have as well.
If racers didn't push the envelope to get things done we would have had a very boring Warwick meeting.
Drink more Coke westi.
Steve
hi steve,
i do know how to push the envelope its not easy...my sayin never give up...keep pushing...